Christianized New Ageism

HOW did you find out her real name??

How can we know the Way to Father as Jesus taught, unless we know who he was, what he taught, what he demonstrated. To follow his way, means not just to hear the words with our ears, but take them in, into our heart. KNOW HIM. Intimately. Not what his disciples said, but what HE said.

Just to let you know, I have been born again according to Christian doctrine.

So let's take a look at just who this man was/is. His teachings were very deep and esoteric. Not even his disciples could understand the meanings of his parables most of the time, he had to take them aside to explain. To the rest of the crowds, they had not interest in understanding but just poo-poo'd what he said and got angry.

Why?

The hebrews teach that there are four levels of understanding scripture, i would say there are more than 4. But that's a whole nother topic in and of itself. It all has to do with levels of consciousness. This is where it all gets trippy for you guys, and becoz you don't understand, you dismiss it as paganism, hinduism, even satanism. Yet, you don't realize you're damning the very one you claim as Saviour.

Take for instance Jesus fasting in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights. Was that for fun? What was the purpose? I'm not going to to tell you, you need to explore that on your own, but I will tell you, that this practice takes one inward in a way never before experienced and leads one to roads of spiritual knowledge unattainable before.

So, is that an example for us to follow? I would tend to believe so.

Let's take some of his teachings.......

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 NIV

When Jesus said this, he as not referring to his death as a sacrifice for humanity.... not in the way christians teach and believe. He was saying exactly what he said: no one can come to the father except through the way that he showed us.

So what was his way?

Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Matthew 22:37-40 NIV

45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.

31 So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’
32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them.
33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.


* Note: you see he did not refer to the priests or scribes ... but he did warn about false apostles who say they are, but aren't.

The prophets were killed for speaking the truth..... no others.

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Does this help to begin to understand where I am coming from?

Editing to add: Ransom does not = blood sacrifice.

Not one person has asked why I posted this thread; why did I post a quote from Joel Olsteen speaking about visualization?

Not one of you.

Why, then, did you post this thread?

To expose New Ageism. What it is. What it is not.

And how it's been incorporated into christianity via people like Joel Olsteen. And others.

People believe all kinds of things about new age, but they don't know what it is. And what it isn't.

I would hope that people would want to educate themselves on it. It's crucial.

Are you referring to the new age as in, the procession of the constellations? However, I would consider new ageism not to be new in the slightest.

I'd wager the truth/proof is polytheistic anyway, or to the extent any theism could ever become a truly strong/solid enough thing. Strength in numbers, "teamwork makes the dream work."

well therein lies the key.

where lies the deception?

The only apparent deception would lie in the omissions of information

2 Timothy 4:1-4

King James Version

4 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Matthew 15:14

King James Version

14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

and as information is *light* (on an energetic level) the absence of it is darkness ( no information )

I know the scriptures. You don't. Sorry.

Thank You for that extensive and clear response!

I've read through carefully 3X to be sure of my understanding.


[TO ME] It appears that you follow Jesus' 2 Commandments in order to be declared Just and Righteous before God.
Jesus taught under the Law, therefore Law was preached.

If at any point in your life you transgress the Law, Jesus said to bring your sacrifice to the Temple for atonement.
That was 'The Way' that Jesus taught.

Have you brought your sacrifice to the Temple for your sins?

Have you fasted without food or water for 40 days yet?

Have you followed Jesus walking out onto the waters of the sea?

Have you calmed a violent Thunderstorm?

Seems Jesus' Way is a hard, legal road .... obedience to Laws or else.


I have some Good News for you!

We are now under a New Covenant (New Testament).
The Old Testament has passed away.

This New Covenant is based upon the favor of God through His Grace and Mercy in Christ.

We enter into this New Covenant not by works of the Law, but by Faith in Jesus.

As it is said, 'Christ is become of no effect to you, whosoever of you seek justification through the Law.
The Just shall live by Faith'

Indeed, it is Good News to which Jesus and the Prophets testify for no one is justified by Law in the sight of God'.

I pray that you will investigate this New Covenant of which Jesus and the Prophets speak.

Your life will change and be richer and fuller than you could ever imagine.

God Bless you in your search!

'Christianized New Ageism'?

You have it backwards.

New Ageism has been invading Christianity for decades

It's the push to 'homogenize' all religions into one - based on the 'they all have the same source' garbage.

Quite similar to OP's wrold view.

Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 07/01/2022 11:04 PM

I remember back about 40-45 years ago the New Age teaching was centered on the 'Cosmic Christ Consciousness'.

These days it seems to cast a wider umbrella ... encompassing the 'Word of Faith' heresy in the wider 'christian' community.

Most of today's New Age spirituality rejects the notion of a personal God or a perfect, unique Savior in Jesus Christ.
They also do not recognize themselves as sinners, nor do they recognize the authority of the Bible.

In terms of 'Word of Faith' heresy, the New Agers have successfully redefined 'faith' to be the content of our words.

For example- You would not say to a Word of Faith' person, 'That makes me sick' ... for sickness will be in your future. Words contain your 'faith'.

This is in stark contrast to biblical faith, which has an object .. We have Faith in Jesus Christ.


It is certainly a serious problem in the modern 'church', as false teachers use the word of faith to make themselves VERY wealthy through 'seed' offerings by their dupes.

You mix here the rumors that you have heard about a religion of the NWO, with the facts and create so straw man arguments to protect your faith.

The problem is that it is you who has a false faith, because you are a victim of deceptions that secular power and church have thought up a very long time ago to instrumentalize Christianity for themselves.

Other world religions are partly much older than Christianity, therefore they cannot be New Age. These religions offer you a chance to understand what Jesus was really talking about because they are about the same topics.

Thank you for you kind response. Firstly, I no longer search for anything, but further spiritual growth. I cannot begin to tell you what I have sacrificed in order to receive what I have. My life is forever changed and rich beyong words of explanation since I died to myself.

I knew that whatever I said would not suffice for you without your need to insert your own doctrine to be necessary for my salvation.

I've grown past your doctrine. I don't NEED your doctrine. Jesus Christ does not REQUIRE your doctrine and dogma. But we are all on our own path. You should keep on yours til you reach your destination.

:Shaanti:

I want to write to help you further understand my past indoctrination and programming.

As a little girl I believed that if I didn’t accept Jesus into my heart (being born again) that I would have to go to hell when I died where the devil would torture me – that I would be burned forever in eternal pain and agony.

My questions for you:
Why would anyone tell a little child this?

Why would a loving God torture us? What would the motive in torturing us be?

Why is it so important that you sway others to believe like this?

Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions.
P.S. Please don't tell me that we send ourselves to hell. That is not logical and no human would choose to suffer eternity in flames and torment.

Much of what is often referred to as "new age" was originally called Gnosticism.

Gnostic means "Knowledge"

True Christianity is not about what you know, but rather about a growing and effectual Relationship with Jesus (His momma called Him Yeshua).

So, Like life.
It's not about what you know, it's about WHO you know! (And how deeply).

Gnosticism is the study of the mechanisms God put in place such as the "Law of attraction".

Gnostics attempt to learn the secrets of God without knowing, loving, or even obeying God.

Sounds a lot like most of modern Church today.

well, that's an interesting response as well!

With the understanding there were likely as many sects of Gnostics as there currently are of Christians, you may be right in one aspect. But certainly, this is not representative of Gnostics across the board.

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Exactly, which is what the false light is all about. New Age is of the false light.

So, how do we recognize the false light?

the false light is controlling, manipulative, bossy and judgmental. It imposes an agenda upon you in a very deceptive way. It will support you in exposing and helping to dismantle what you perceive to be "evil." It gives marching orders. It sends you on endless, energy-draining missions in your dream state and asks you to do missions that result in soul energy draining.

It will NEVER enlighten you to the truths of your heart.

Kinda like 90% of the bible.

Joel's bank account sure does benefit one hell of a lot.

I disagree with your post entirely. He was the WAY before the murder on the cross. He has been the way for a trillion years already before he INCARNATED ON THIS WORLD

Last Edited by Mother Maggie on 07/02/2022 12:47 PM