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I have a wonderful Russian Blue cat. His name is Periwinkle, but we just usually call him "Peri" or just "bubba".

He has always had vision problems and been shy because of it. He has one eye that develops a lot of discharge, but it has been much better this past couple weeks due to my treating it with triple antibiotic cream and keeping it clean.

He is truly the smartest and sweetest pet one could want.

He is, however 14 years old and we just lost his best friend cat, a female named "Sweetie".

We got a kitten a couple weeks ago and they get along great. Peri has always had a weak stomach, which has means he sometimes throws up because he eats so quickly. Lately he is choking on phlem when not eating. It appears thick and white.

He is also more lethargic (he doesn't follow me constantly and race me up the stairs as much).

He's had a (ivermectin based) dewormer.

He also seems to be sicker after sneaking kitten food, particularly the wet/canned type. He's only really had it once.

He weighs about 15 lbs and is still strong enough that the kids (aged late teens/early 20's) still can't bathe him or hold him long if he wants to be free.

Stools are normal and urination regular. He eats (mostly kibble) sparingly and seems thirstier than normal. I have started (last 6 weeks) giving him canned mackerel 1-2 times a week. He also gets canned food every other day.

Having just lost Sweetie in Feb, my wife would be devastated if something happened to Bubs (short for Bubba).

I'm sure there are great pet owners out there who might have seen something like this before.

Any ideas about what the phlegm and choking could be?
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Idk but i hope its nothing serious and resolves soon. I have a cat named Bubba.
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Hairball? They can cough up phlegm when on is coming.

Might need hairball lubricant goo. In a pinch try a finger full of butter?
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Liquid liposomal vitamin c if it was my cat. This stuff is more powerful than most people think has kept my family and pets well for years. 2000 mg twice a day and then cut back when the cat looks like he is feeling better.
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I have a wonderful Russian Blue cat. His name is Periwinkle, but we just usually call him "Peri" or just "bubba".

He has always had vision problems and been shy because of it. He has one eye that develops a lot of discharge, but it has been much better this past couple weeks due to my treating it with triple antibiotic cream and keeping it clean.

He is truly the smartest and sweetest pet one could want.

He is, however 14 years old and we just lost his best friend cat, a female named "Sweetie".

We got a kitten a couple weeks ago and they get along great. Peri has always had a weak stomach, which has means he sometimes throws up because he eats so quickly. Lately he is choking on phlem when not eating. It appears thick and white.

He is also more lethargic (he doesn't follow me constantly and race me up the stairs as much).

He's had a (ivermectin based) dewormer.

He also seems to be sicker after sneaking kitten food, particularly the wet/canned type. He's only really had it once.

He weighs about 15 lbs and is still strong enough that the kids (aged late teens/early 20's) still can't bathe him or hold him long if he wants to be free.

Stools are normal and urination regular. He eats (mostly kibble) sparingly and seems thirstier than normal. I have started (last 6 weeks) giving him canned mackerel 1-2 times a week. He also gets canned food every other day.

Having just lost Sweetie in Feb, my wife would be devastated if something happened to Bubs (short for Bubba).

I'm sure there are great pet owners out there who might have seen something like this before.

Any ideas about what the phlegm and choking could be?
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Type in symptoms in the search box 'cat has... ' minus the open and close parentheses

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Stop washing him he'll clean himself. Could be stress of baths and losing his friend. Also let him eat whatever he wants and give him treats. You said he throws up a lot already so it won't matter. I've had cats die from ages 12 up to 20 something. Most start getting old age problems around 12-14.
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If you have the money, take the cat to a CAT SPECIALIST veterinarian.

NEVER take a cat to a regular veterinarian because they don't know SHIT about cats.
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If you have the money, take the cat to a CAT SPECIALIST veterinarian.

NEVER take a cat to a regular veterinarian because they don't know SHIT about cats.
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Its always food with cats. Gotta by some Dehydrated Raw Meat and chicken at pet store. Also Orijen cat food is pricy but the way to go. No temptations or other garbage
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I have a wonderful Russian Blue cat. His name is Periwinkle, but we just usually call him "Peri" or just "bubba".

He has always had vision problems and been shy because of it. He has one eye that develops a lot of discharge, but it has been much better this past couple weeks due to my treating it with triple antibiotic cream and keeping it clean.

He is truly the smartest and sweetest pet one could want.

He is, however 14 years old and we just lost his best friend cat, a female named "Sweetie".

We got a kitten a couple weeks ago and they get along great. Peri has always had a weak stomach, which has means he sometimes throws up because he eats so quickly. Lately he is choking on phlem when not eating. It appears thick and white.

He is also more lethargic (he doesn't follow me constantly and race me up the stairs as much).

He's had a (ivermectin based) dewormer.

He also seems to be sicker after sneaking kitten food, particularly the wet/canned type. He's only really had it once.

He weighs about 15 lbs and is still strong enough that the kids (aged late teens/early 20's) still can't bathe him or hold him long if he wants to be free.

Stools are normal and urination regular. He eats (mostly kibble) sparingly and seems thirstier than normal. I have started (last 6 weeks) giving him canned mackerel 1-2 times a week. He also gets canned food every other day.

Having just lost Sweetie in Feb, my wife would be devastated if something happened to Bubs (short for Bubba).

I'm sure there are great pet owners out there who might have seen something like this before.

Any ideas about what the phlegm and choking could be?
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Does his belly seem disproportionate to the rest of his body..like bloated?
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I have a wonderful Russian Blue cat. His name is Periwinkle, but we just usually call him "Peri" or just "bubba".

He has always had vision problems and been shy because of it. He has one eye that develops a lot of discharge, but it has been much better this past couple weeks due to my treating it with triple antibiotic cream and keeping it clean.

He is truly the smartest and sweetest pet one could want.

He is, however 14 years old and we just lost his best friend cat, a female named "Sweetie".

We got a kitten a couple weeks ago and they get along great. Peri has always had a weak stomach, which has means he sometimes throws up because he eats so quickly. Lately he is choking on phlem when not eating. It appears thick and white.

He is also more lethargic (he doesn't follow me constantly and race me up the stairs as much).

He's had a (ivermectin based) dewormer.

He also seems to be sicker after sneaking kitten food, particularly the wet/canned type. He's only really had it once.

He weighs about 15 lbs and is still strong enough that the kids (aged late teens/early 20's) still can't bathe him or hold him long if he wants to be free.

Stools are normal and urination regular. He eats (mostly kibble) sparingly and seems thirstier than normal. I have started (last 6 weeks) giving him canned mackerel 1-2 times a week. He also gets canned food every other day.

Having just lost Sweetie in Feb, my wife would be devastated if something happened to Bubs (short for Bubba).

I'm sure there are great pet owners out there who might have seen something like this before.

Any ideas about what the phlegm and choking could be?
 Quoting: Asymptote



Go here OP

www.earthclinic.com

Type in symptoms in the search box 'cat has... ' minus the open and close parentheses

Its an amazing site for humans and pets

All the best xx
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Yes! Earth clinic has a pet space. You can ask questions.
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Stop washing him he'll clean himself. Could be stress of baths and losing his friend. Also let him eat whatever he wants and give him treats. You said he throws up a lot already so it won't matter. I've had cats die from ages 12 up to 20 something. Most start getting old age problems around 12-14.
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Stop washing him he'll clean himself. Could be stress of baths and losing his friend. Also let him eat whatever he wants and give him treats. You said he throws up a lot already so it won't matter. I've had cats die from ages 12 up to 20 something. Most start getting old age problems around 12-14.
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Most make it to 14 15 If cancer doesn’t get them their kidneys will. They don’t last long enough and is hellish when they go. You have to be strong enough to let them go, Not saying that is the case here. My miserable daughter in law kept poor noble dog from going to her reward was horrible to watch… Misery and needless suffering for 6 months that I know about. Will never forgive my daughter in law but then she is just a miserable wretch and fucks up everything she touches.
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tl;dr
I don't care what your cat's name is!
What's the problem? Keep it brief.

Eye discharge? L-Lysine, few grains (of powder) in their food. Just a few. It's a cat. They heal fast. That's how I healed mine and I've posted this here before.

I'm only posting because it's a CAT! Or else, you long-winded ingrates don't deserve any help.

AND NEXT TIME GOOGLE IT!!!! instead of letting your cat suffer like a helpless damsel in distress! If I could G-it, so can you!
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Disclaimer: Not a vet, just a crazy cat rescuer.

So the symptoms you're describing could be absolutely nothing but old age all the way to things like heart disease, diabetes, kidney and liver failure. Really hard to say but if vet is an option, I'd absolutely want to do a general blood panel and have the vet have a listen to his lungs at the very least.

Things I am thinking about are fluid buildup in the lungs from the aforementioned issues, G.I. problems secondary to early or mid-stage liver disease, etc. Really, really common, so much so that most cats end up with it at some point, but not necessarily a death sentence if treated -- at least not for years. So, I don't say any of these things to scare you, but just to say --- hey, at that age, it's generally good to check. You know?

Kitten food is actually incredibly rich and if they aren't used to it, it can absolutely make them puke, lol. Think of it like suddenly eating a big dish of duck pate when you aren't used to it.

Other thoughts... has he ever had any kind of respiratory issue before? Viruses like Feline viral rhinotracheitis (FVR), calicivirus etc can cause those symptoms. They stay in their bodies for life and can flare up during bouts of stress or when their immune system is weakened. The discharge from the eye is often a dead giveaway, too. If the triple antibiotic is working thee may actually be a secondary infection going on.

That's one thing I'd be curious about, but to be honest, the response for most of these viral flareups is literally just patience and supportive care unless they develop a secondary infection.

If the kitten came from a questionable environment, he or she could have brought something like that in, too.

Other questions... quality of kibble, frequency of wet food, etc. Cats can develop food allergies later in life and there is lots of evidence to show that wet is better than dry in general (but some dry can help maintain teeth!)

Two of mine cannot touch cheap kibbles because they instantly break out into itchies and puke. They're lucky they're cute enough to justify buying the expensive grain-free, chicken-free food (their suspected allergies, lol).

Anyhow those are my thoughts :) Hope your kitty feels better real soon.
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Gets some ground turkey. Boil it until fully cooked.

Then cook up some rice and mix the two
with slightly more turkey than rice in the cat food dish). You can also add a LITTLE cottage cheese for flavor.

Do this for about week. That will help with vomiting.

Yes overeating can make them puke but typically when they get to be this old, ALOT of the times it's their liver or pancreas that can't handle the shitty and poisonous additives that they put in cat food.

If you want them to feel or get any better then:
ABSOLUTELY NO KITTEN FOOD FOR THEM ANYMORE AND NONE OF THE CRAPPY SOFT FOOD THAT COMES IN A CAN OR ANY CAT TREATS. ALL OF THAT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF MCDONALD'S POISONOUS FOOD FOR Humans.

Ive worked in vets and I am friends with a few vets. I grew up around vets. And I've treated my old cats/dogs with this same remedy with success.

And that phlegm sounds like stomach bile. Sounds to me like they can no longer handle the shitty cat food. And their body is rejecting it.

I would get blood work done to see what their liver and pancrease are doing. If those are the culprits then a diet change needs to happen. Now turkey and rice won't work forever so afterwards you might need to switch to a more expensive food that has less fillers in it and is made specifically for elderly cats something like this [link to www.chewy.com (secure)]

If their liver and pancreas are the reasons then that shitty cheap cat food from the grocery store will keep them getting more sick.


Here's some good recipes for a bland diet for cats who vomit or have diarrhea:
(you can change out the turkey for chicken and vice-versa)
[link to cat-world.com (secure)]

And don't leave out the kitten food anymore. Only put it out when it's feeding time for the kitten and only enough for one sitting. Whatever the kitten doesn't eat, put back. Letting your elderly cat eat kitten food will not help them.

No more canned mackerel! The sodium content is through the roof. The more I read your post the more I think that your cat has gotten to an age where it's insides just can't handle all that shitty food anymore. Being thirsty all the time is also a sign of diabetes.

Definitely get blood work done, get them on the bland diet for awhile. Do not leave out any food at all. Only feed at designated feeding times. And clean up whatever is left. Trust me this will help your elderly cat a lot. Its a little more work to do but your cat will feel a lot better.

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Chicken baby food.
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Chicken baby food.
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Baby food for flavor yes.... Just as long as there is no onions or garlic in it. Both of which are toxic to cats and will only make them worse.
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you may want to treat it for lung worm. snails carry it and birds/rodents get it from snails.
cats get it from birds/rodents.
not all cat wormers treat lung worm, so you need the right one to be sure.
you also want to be sure there is no access to rat poison, some rat poisons look too much like cat food.
i have had a couple of cats get lung worm though, rattly breathing, coughing, general loss of condition.
my two cents
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Thank you all for the responses.

I don't wash him. He has a double coat but does a good job of maintaining his cleanliness. He gets hairballs from hell from time to time and has actually balded himself from chewing off his fur (but not in quite a few years).

His belly is not distended. He has an extremely muscular frame, his calves are weirdly muscular.
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The phlegm could be congestive heart failure. The fluids back up into the throat and the animal barfs foamy, frothy white with flecks of pink. Cat will need a lasix water pill immediately Asparagus pulls the extra fluids off for the long term.


The other possibility is heat stroke. Animals need to be kept cool in the heat just like humans. They barf, lethargic glassy eyed, rapid breathing.

Sensitive stomachs, fur balls add to wretching. I shave the long hair in the summer. Yeah, he tolerates that for a full two minutes, and then I gotta move quick from the claws.

Mackerel is good, Atlantic salmon is best. Kitten food is complicated for the sensitive stomachs.

I like the l-lysine idea. I have a dog that I will start her on it.
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Hairball? They can cough up phlegm when on is coming.

Might need hairball lubricant goo. In a pinch try a finger full of butter?
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I agree, could be a hairball...

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Thank you all for the responses.

I don't wash him. He has a double coat but does a good job of maintaining his cleanliness. He gets hairballs from hell from time to time and has actually balded himself from chewing off his fur (but not in quite a few years).

His belly is not distended. He has an extremely muscular frame, his calves are weirdly muscular.
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I’ve reread your statements. Key things; congestion with phlegm in the mouth, lethargic, the calves could be holding water which is common for congestive heart failure. The brine in the fish may be too salty for your cat. Heat exhaustion also has many chf symptoms. Better get him to a good vet.
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IVERMECTIN.


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I would use Colloidal Silver in the eyes and internally mixed in food. Mesasilver.com has a very fine one. Lysine helps our cat with a mucous problem. Great you gave him Ivermectin, but it's like us. You may have to do it more than once.

Other thoughts are mushrooms that boost the immune system, elderberry and Cell Salts are supposed to heal any disease and their are some specific to mucous. Make sure he has access to grasses and herbs too, like in nature. Many apartment pets never even get grass.
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I mean, SERIOUSLY!! DO YOU KNOW WHAT A VETERINARIAN IS?! BASICALLY A DOCTOR, FOR ANIMALS... I WOULD'VE ALREADY TAKEN MY ANIMAL!
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IVERMECTIN.


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yeah, ivermectin will kill lungworm and also heartworm i believe
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I mean, SERIOUSLY!! DO YOU KNOW WHAT A VETERINARIAN IS?! BASICALLY A DOCTOR, FOR ANIMALS... I WOULD'VE ALREADY TAKEN MY ANIMAL!
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hard to find a good one.
many are overrated just like general practitioners.
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Do not use antibiotic cream, it will also kill the good bacteria as well.

Use natural remedies instead that are safe for cats.

Use pro biotics to replenish the good bacteria.

Also the eye discharge can be caused by worms. Try crushed pumpkin seeds mixed in his meal, also cloves is very good at eliminating different types of worms.
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If you also have a dog, cat;s will puke up dog food/treats.
Try different foods (never purina) Also iams has byproducts. Feed him real food it is just as cheap and much better! Frozen chicken breasts / 10 per 3 pounds. Cat/dog treats 12 oz. 13 bux. Do the math.
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I have a wonderful Russian Blue cat. His name is Periwinkle, but we just usually call him "Peri" or just "bubba".

He has always had vision problems and been shy because of it. He has one eye that develops a lot of discharge, but it has been much better this past couple weeks due to my treating it with triple antibiotic cream and keeping it clean.

He is truly the smartest and sweetest pet one could want.

He is, however 14 years old and we just lost his best friend cat, a female named "Sweetie".

We got a kitten a couple weeks ago and they get along great. Peri has always had a weak stomach, which has means he sometimes throws up because he eats so quickly. Lately he is choking on phlem when not eating. It appears thick and white.

He is also more lethargic (he doesn't follow me constantly and race me up the stairs as much).

He's had a (ivermectin based) dewormer.

He also seems to be sicker after sneaking kitten food, particularly the wet/canned type. He's only really had it once.

He weighs about 15 lbs and is still strong enough that the kids (aged late teens/early 20's) still can't bathe him or hold him long if he wants to be free.

Stools are normal and urination regular. He eats (mostly kibble) sparingly and seems thirstier than normal. I have started (last 6 weeks) giving him canned mackerel 1-2 times a week. He also gets canned food every other day.

Having just lost Sweetie in Feb, my wife would be devastated if something happened to Bubs (short for Bubba).

I'm sure there are great pet owners out there who might have seen something like this before.

Any ideas about what the phlegm and choking could be?
 Quoting: Asymptote



Go here OP

www.earthclinic.com

Type in symptoms in the search box 'cat has... ' minus the open and close parentheses

Its an amazing site for humans and pets

All the best xx
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