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UPS to seize and destroy packages from gun retailers.

 
Slipknotz

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07/02/2022 11:10 AM

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Re: UPS to seize and destroy packages from gun retailers.
That is a big lawsuit. Tampering with people's mail.
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Federal CRIME?...good luck with that. The PEOPLE can put these woke fuckers outta business by stripping away the money from them.
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M R E

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07/02/2022 11:14 AM

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take out the insurance that is offered!!
would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it
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07/02/2022 11:17 AM
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So much for civil forfeiture when LEOs confiscate your travelers checks on the interstate.
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07/02/2022 11:19 AM

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UPS has cameras in the front, back and inside those trucks, they know exactly what is going on throughout the delivery routes, maybe when the lawsuits start they can use those recordings against them??
would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it
StopsniffinmeBrandon

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07/02/2022 11:20 AM
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I just went to the Brownells website, and Facebook page, and it says nothing about any problem shipping with UPS.
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07/02/2022 11:20 AM

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Boycott and sue UPS the suck anyway and probably transport illegals all over the country.
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Definitely boycott. Fuck UnAmerican UPS

Last Edited by Bennder on 07/02/2022 11:21 AM
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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07/02/2022 11:22 AM

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So much for civil forfeiture when LEOs confiscate your travelers checks on the interstate.
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LEO= Highway Robbers
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



Slake Blake
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07/02/2022 11:25 AM
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If anyone wants to make money, start a courier business for firearms
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07/02/2022 11:29 AM
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If true, just use USPS. Technically, UPS can legally do this (stupid, I know).

However, as a government entity, USPS cannot search packages without legal consent.

Very ironic.
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07/02/2022 11:31 AM
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That is a big lawsuit. Tampering with people's mail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83786148


its not even mail, its parcels. delivered by a courier company. if you want mail then send it by US Postal Service
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Bingo.
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07/02/2022 11:32 AM
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you're just one guy, they have many, you will lose.
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I know that

But I'll take at least 10 of them motherfuckers before they get me
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Yes sir. Each of us needs that level of commitment

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Yep! If everyone takes 2 or 3 out with them, THEY will run out of bodies before we do.

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Take our 2 or 3?
You guys really need to up your game.
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Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2022 11:33 AM
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Order a box of fused AP mines, let them thrown that in their crusher.
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07/02/2022 12:12 PM
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Re: UPS to seize and destroy packages from gun retailers.
That is a big lawsuit. Tampering with people's mail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83786148


UPS is a private service. It's different from USPS, where it would be a Federal issue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82391989


It is still a federal issue. There are laws governing transport of goods and interstate commerce
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2022 12:23 PM
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Brown shirts. Fascists. Dictating what you can ship.
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07/02/2022 12:25 PM

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That is a big lawsuit. Tampering with people's mail.
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It's not mail. Mail is USPS, not UPS.
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07/02/2022 12:36 PM
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That is a big lawsuit. Tampering with people's mail.
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When you click agree to the terms they can do whatever they want ….
dschis1000

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07/02/2022 12:39 PM
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its a private company if i dont like your posts i can refuse you service
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Interstate Commerce Hobbs Act

The Hobbs Act prohibits actual or attempted robbery or extortion affecting interstate or foreign commerce "in any way or degree." Section 1951 also proscribes conspiracy to commit robbery or extortion without reference to the conspiracy statute at 18 U.S.C. § 371.

If you've been charged with interference with commerce, you are in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1951. In short, you are being charged with a federal crime of robbery. Interference in interstate commerce is any instance in which a person delays, obstructs or otherwise affects commerce.
 Quoting: SW Fla Pirate


Contact the Postal Inspectors. Not the FBI and if you can't find the number ask your Postmaster. They will have it. PIs are their own organization and have a chain of command that's different
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2022 12:41 PM
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Isn't UPS a privately held company, owned by one family?

There's probably something in their fine print that says they can do this. But sheesh what gives them the right?
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2022 12:43 PM
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I have been waiting on a Savage bolt action stainless steel rifle, for three months now...The first one was wrong, and now they have built me the one I ordered, it better not end up canceled by UPS!!
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What caliber?
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2022 12:49 PM
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UPS has no authority to seize and destroy anything. It is the property of the customer that bought it and in most cases that customer has no choice in the shipping carrier... Ups is gonna have to sell off a few planes to cover their legal defense fund on this one.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2022 12:52 PM
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Re: UPS to seize and destroy packages from gun retailers.
That is a big lawsuit. Tampering with people's mail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83786148


It’s wrong, but probably not illegal. UPS isn’t “mail.” It’s a private company.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2022 12:52 PM
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Re: UPS to seize and destroy packages from gun retailers.
That is a big lawsuit. Tampering with people's mail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83786148


UPS is a private company like FedEx and not the United States Postal Service.

UPS is governed by private contract terms. Depending on those terms, determines the penalties. Your only recourse in such dealings is civil court. UPS customers might have to choose another courier service to deliver their products.
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No it’s not a private company! Ticker symbol is UPS. Clown
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2022 12:56 PM
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Re: UPS to seize and destroy packages from gun retailers.
That is a big lawsuit. Tampering with people's mail.
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UPS is a private company like FedEx and not the United States Postal Service.

UPS is governed by private contract terms. Depending on those terms, determines the penalties. Your only recourse in such dealings is civil court. UPS customers might have to choose another courier service to deliver their products.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83784521


FedEx ticker symbol FDX. UPS ticker symbol. UPS and FedEx are both publicly traded companies. boy don’t you look stupid. Lol
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2022 01:03 PM
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How much more proof do you need that mega corporations dictate legislation through ultra-corrupt lobbyist machinations and that the usurped occupational government de facto wields no power?

I'm not a US citizen, nor do I live in the US, nor do I plan to do so. But UPS works around here. Well then, UPS can go stuff itself from now on. I know it's but a drop of water to the ocean, but I'll have done all I possibly can do.
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07/02/2022 01:06 PM
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its a private company if i dont like your posts i can refuse you service
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30753304


Interstate Commerce Hobbs Act

The Hobbs Act prohibits actual or attempted robbery or extortion affecting interstate or foreign commerce "in any way or degree." Section 1951 also proscribes conspiracy to commit robbery or extortion without reference to the conspiracy statute at 18 U.S.C. § 371.

If you've been charged with interference with commerce, you are in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1951. In short, you are being charged with a federal crime of robbery. Interference in interstate commerce is any instance in which a person delays, obstructs or otherwise affects commerce.
 Quoting: SW Fla Pirate

You mean like artificially increasing gasoline price by allegedly obstructing oil company leases under color of law?

I think that I would call my UPS rep to verify. These days anybody with a decent color printer can fake a letter, the same as anyone with a good 3d printer can maybe print a usable gun part.

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Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2022 01:16 PM
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How does UPS have the legal authority to "destroy" customers packages?

They would be held legally responsible for the cost and damages, just like any other package they ship.




No more UPS shipping for me.
Cebeij

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07/02/2022 01:17 PM

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cant change the laws. use corps with endless money to subvert it.
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07/02/2022 02:06 PM
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Re: UPS to seize and destroy packages from gun retailers.
Interstate Commerce Hobbs Act

The Hobbs Act prohibits actual or attempted robbery or extortion affecting interstate or foreign commerce "in any way or degree." Section 1951 also proscribes conspiracy to commit robbery or extortion without reference to the conspiracy statute at 18 U.S.C. § 371.

If you've been charged with interference with commerce, you are in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1951. In short, you are being charged with a federal crime of robbery. Interference in interstate commerce is any instance in which a person delays, obstructs or otherwise affects commerce.
That is a big lawsuit. Tampering with people's mail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83786148


UPS is a private company like FedEx and not the United States Postal Service.

UPS is governed by private contract terms. Depending on those terms, determines the penalties. Your only recourse in such dealings is civil court. UPS customers might have to choose another courier service to deliver their products.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83784521
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07/02/2022 02:14 PM
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take out the insurance that is offered!!
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UPS is self insured so...
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07/02/2022 02:17 PM
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its a private company if i dont like your posts i can refuse you service
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30753304


Interstate Commerce Hobbs Act

The Hobbs Act prohibits actual or attempted robbery or extortion affecting interstate or foreign commerce "in any way or degree." Section 1951 also proscribes conspiracy to commit robbery or extortion without reference to the conspiracy statute at 18 U.S.C. § 371.

If you've been charged with interference with commerce, you are in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1951. In short, you are being charged with a federal crime of robbery. Interference in interstate commerce is any instance in which a person delays, obstructs or otherwise affects commerce.
 Quoting: SW Fla Pirate


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