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Why are the vaxxed so angry?

 
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They are dying fairly quickly compared to unvaccinated. They have been poisoned. So they have depression and they don't even know it.
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Weak first.
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*pilot shortage*

How many other shortages, all of the sudden since 19'?
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There's no reason to be happy when there are a plague of anti-vaxxers running around.
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Lol. That's actually funny on it's surface. Until you realize it denotes that somehow those not undergoing experimental gene therapy (it's not a "vaccine" by any historical definition right up to the point they changed the definition so they could call this a "vaccine") are somehow "unclean" or a "plague".
Then you realize where this sentiment is coming from - and where it's historically going. Then it just becomes sobering.


There's no reason to be happy when there is a plandemic of experimentally genetically modified people running around spreading God knows what.

If there's a "unclean" group here - it sure as $hit isn't the naturals. It's the Genetically Modified Organisms.

Peace
 Quoting: Sumsitup


Oh, I see. You're one of the people still running under the outdated false information that the vaccine alters your DNA. Well thank you for at least outting yourself as being someone not worth interacting with.
 Quoting: Captain Cosmos


Oh, I see you're another fucking imbecile who doesn't keep up with the studies to learn about it being proven that the mRna can / does edit your DNA through reverse transcription once it makes it to your liver. They based their claims of it not being able to edit your DNA on it staying local to the injection site. Instead it has been found in every major organ of the body. Make sure you know what you're talking about before you try and talk down to someone. It's always shitty when the most ignorant "you" think they are the smartest in the room.

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CRISP-R is real and not mentioned much as other topics similar.
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Lol. That's actually funny on it's surface. Until you realize it denotes that somehow those not undergoing experimental gene therapy (it's not a "vaccine" by any historical definition right up to the point they changed the definition so they could call this a "vaccine") are somehow "unclean" or a "plague".
Then you realize where this sentiment is coming from - and where it's historically going. Then it just becomes sobering.


There's no reason to be happy when there is a plandemic of experimentally genetically modified people running around spreading God knows what.

If there's a "unclean" group here - it sure as $hit isn't the naturals. It's the Genetically Modified Organisms.

Peace
 Quoting: Sumsitup


Oh, I see. You're one of the people still running under the outdated false information that the vaccine alters your DNA. Well thank you for at least outting yourself as being someone not worth interacting with.
 Quoting: Captain Cosmos


Among other things. Where's your evidence that the mRNA vax does not alter DNA?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81887851


Where's the evidence it DOES?

Oh yeah, on bitchute and youtube, where ALL the pseudoscientists get their info.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78648514


You are such a lazy piece of shit you can't take 30 seconds to search for it yourself eh? Look up the Swedish study published a few months ago. Covering the reverse transcription process that happens once it reaches your liver. Spoiler..... It does edit your DNA.

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Old news, but here.

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Oh, I see. You're one of the people still running under the outdated false information that the vaccine alters your DNA. Well thank you for at least outting yourself as being someone not worth interacting with.
 Quoting: Captain Cosmos


Among other things. Where's your evidence that the mRNA vax does not alter DNA?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81887851


Where's the evidence it DOES?

Oh yeah, on bitchute and youtube, where ALL the pseudoscientists get their info.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78648514


Yes, because we all know that the real "experts" have no agendas and have been so honest with us all along.
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Old news, but here.

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Old to some - new to others. Keep sharing!

Thanks for the link.

Peace
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Re: Why are the vaxxed so angry?
Shouldn't they be happy?
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It pisses them off when they realize that the people they cheated to put into office, who they have rioted, picketed, protested for, are trying to kill them and they fell for the ploy. Now, you have put up a very big wall of denial and insistence that they not hear the truth which often shows up as a chronic anger.
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Re: Why are the vaxxed so angry?
GRAMPA Gates lied to them
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I haven't noticed this. Most seem determined not to get more shots though, which is a start.
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The vaxxed have always known deep down inside that there was something not right with these vaccines... not least of which, no ingredient list and no liability for the manufactures and distributors.

I have never ONCE heard a vaxxed comment on those two little undeniable facts.

Those two things alone should have stopped everyone from taking it... the "science" is just a distraction from the business model.

So, to the vaxxed in this thread... all "science" aside... do you have an answer for injecting a substance with no ingredient list and no legal liability into your body?

First question I ever asked... still no answer.

In truth, it sounds like something a crack addict wold do, doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


Here you go.

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

"The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine and SPIKEVAX (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) contain the
following ingredients: messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA), lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol
[PEG] 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG], cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-
phosphocholine [DSPC]), tromethamine, tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, sodium
acetate trihydrate, and sucrose"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80185305

To add:
Are you trying to tell me you look at that ingredient list and go, "Oh yeah, sure, that's all fine, and I completely understand what I am reading"... ?

A vaccine isn't scones (ingredient list: flour, butter, milk), and the onus to have more descriptive information is related to the complexity of the ingredients.

The initial "information inserts" were completely blank with these vaccines, so even if you DID know the ingredients at the beginning (which you didn't), you absolutely didn't have the explanatory information that is supposed to support those "ingredients"... for informed consent.

The information on the "ingredient list" has been deliberately opaque due to the controversy surrounding some of those ingredients.

Would you say that is a transparent list, and the whole vaccine rollout has been above board, and one of openness and transparency, or would you say otherwise?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


Yes I understood, researched, and decided it was safe for me to get injected into my body.
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries

... and like every vaxxed person you avoided the pertinent part of my question.

Here you go:
Do you have an answer for injecting a substance with no ingredient list (at the time, or publicly available information besides tangential research) and no legal liability into your body?

Since at the start there was no ingredient list, or information at all available (which is why it wasn't approved and only given Emergency Use Authorization... there WAS nothing much to research at the start (other than the deaths of some ferrets and rats)), because it was all held tightly behind NDA's and proprietary information.

In other words, private vested interest mattered more than public and open discussion.

So that means either, you are lying about researching at the time, or your idea of "research" is quite simply propaganda, and you are believing and propagating lies.

Or you are deliberately causing confusion (ie. you have some vested interest) around the topic to cover for the blatant lies.

Any which way, there is lies at the core of your post.
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Oh and another day, still feeling great! Double vaxxed and waiting for the omicron booster! Wheeeee!
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries


That doesn't bother me at all. I made a different choice based on my understanding of it. If I met you, neither would know the other's vax status, and that's as it should be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81887851


Exactly. It’s not a big deal and definitely nothing to get angry about. hf
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Where's the evidence it DOES?

Oh yeah, on bitchute and youtube, where ALL the pseudoscientists get their info.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78648514



I'll play.
But 1st - it's not a "vaccine" by any historical definition.

It's, literally by name, "gene therapy". If it is not affecting the genes / genetics then what do you suppose it's doing? Or you're playing semantics between effecting "DNA" vs "mRNA"? (I never said it affected DNA directly btw. I don't know if it does or not? But it certainly modifies genetic functions).

I state: It's a viral gene injected into the body that forces the body (unnaturally) to make toxic spike proteins instead of fighting and flushing them, proteins which we already know OFTEN causes permanent damage to critical organs. But this gene therapy is experimental in nature so we don't even know the full extent of the damages it causes.

For links and proof to stake my claim I'll use Dr. Robert Malone, immunologist, virologist, top researcher, avid vaccine developer and promoter, and one of the leading inventors of the mRNA technology.

[link to wsau.com (secure)]
[link to hnewswire.com (secure)]

and the 16,000 scientist who stand with him in his assertions that these shots aren't safe.

[link to www.thedesertreview.com (secure)]

Your move.
 Quoting: Sumsitup


It doesn’t affect your DNA or modify genetic functions.
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries


Ok. I'll play your semantics game (for the sake of other readers).
My statement was:
"It's a viral gene injected into the body that forces the body (unnaturally) to make toxic spike proteins instead of fighting and flushing them, proteins which we already know OFTEN causes permanent damage to critical organs. But this gene therapy is experimental in nature so we don't even know the full extent of the damages it causes."

...and then provided supporting links.

Your rebuttal is?
 Quoting: Sumsitup


Well there are quite a few problems with your statement but no need for rebuttal. Pretty close, it’s not “unnaturally” that it makes the spike proteins, it’s an automatic process = natural. Also when you make the spike proteins you do fight and flush them, that’s how your immune system works. They do clinical trials to find out what kinds of damage might happen to people.
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The scammer websites and fear mongers pushing constant hate don’t help
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries


Sharon Cherries, the vaccines were the 1st shot upon the public to destroy the US economy and replace the $ with BRICS CBDC. (look up the acronyms if you don't yet know them - worth knowing these)
 Quoting: RocketScientist


I think all that great reset stuff is nonsense. The release of a bioweapon by China was the hit to the US, the vaccine was an attempt to mitigate the disaster of the pandemic. Nothing destroys an economy faster than lockdowns.
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries


Go on the World Economic Forum's YT channel and type in Great Reset. Let me know how much nonsense it is you fuckin buffoon.
 Quoting: Great Reset is "Nonsense& 80926053


No it’s complete BS that will never happen in a normal, civilised country. WEF can kiss my ass, they aren’t a government and have no military
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Among other things. Where's your evidence that the mRNA vax does not alter DNA?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81887851


Where's the evidence it DOES?

Oh yeah, on bitchute and youtube, where ALL the pseudoscientists get their info.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78648514



I'll play.
But 1st - it's not a "vaccine" by any historical definition.

It's, literally by name, "gene therapy". If it is not affecting the genes / genetics then what do you suppose it's doing? Or you're playing semantics between effecting "DNA" vs "mRNA"? (I never said it affected DNA directly btw. I don't know if it does or not? But it certainly modifies genetic functions).

I state: It's a viral gene injected into the body that forces the body (unnaturally) to make toxic spike proteins instead of fighting and flushing them, proteins which we already know OFTEN causes permanent damage to critical organs. But this gene therapy is experimental in nature so we don't even know the full extent of the damages it causes.

For links and proof to stake my claim I'll use Dr. Robert Malone, immunologist, virologist, top researcher, avid vaccine developer and promoter, and one of the leading inventors of the mRNA technology.

[link to wsau.com (secure)]
[link to hnewswire.com (secure)]

and the 16,000 scientist who stand with him in his assertions that these shots aren't safe.

[link to www.thedesertreview.com (secure)]

Your move.
 Quoting: Sumsitup


It doesn’t affect your DNA or modify genetic functions.
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries

There were studies that suggested mRNA could cause permanent changes to DNA even before the vaccine rollout.

I'm not going to be your source monkey... you're apparently a great researcher... you can go find them yourself if you're genuine (you don't seem genuine... it seems like you have a vested interest).
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The scammer websites and fear mongers pushing constant hate don’t help
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries


Sharon Cherries, the vaccines were the 1st shot upon the public to destroy the US economy and replace the $ with BRICS CBDC. (look up the acronyms if you don't yet know them - worth knowing these)
 Quoting: RocketScientist


I think all that great reset stuff is nonsense.
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries


LMFAO, you are pathetic.

Wonder why Klaus has a book written and for sale titled "The Great Reset" - I wonder why he lectures about a great reset. LOL

Obvious shill is obvious.

epiclol
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Klaus from american dad?
Correcting the record one tard at a time

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Here you go.

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

"The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine and SPIKEVAX (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) contain the
following ingredients: messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA), lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol
[PEG] 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG], cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-
phosphocholine [DSPC]), tromethamine, tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, sodium
acetate trihydrate, and sucrose"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80185305

To add:
Are you trying to tell me you look at that ingredient list and go, "Oh yeah, sure, that's all fine, and I completely understand what I am reading"... ?

A vaccine isn't scones (ingredient list: flour, butter, milk), and the onus to have more descriptive information is related to the complexity of the ingredients.

The initial "information inserts" were completely blank with these vaccines, so even if you DID know the ingredients at the beginning (which you didn't), you absolutely didn't have the explanatory information that is supposed to support those "ingredients"... for informed consent.

The information on the "ingredient list" has been deliberately opaque due to the controversy surrounding some of those ingredients.

Would you say that is a transparent list, and the whole vaccine rollout has been above board, and one of openness and transparency, or would you say otherwise?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


If you're asking me if I went to medical school, no I didn't. But I don't need to know how a transmission works for me to take my car to a mechanic to have it fixed. That's what mechanics (and doctors) are for.
 Quoting: Captain Cosmos

No, I didn't ask that. You make an interesting point though... Doctor's after the last two years are about as trustworthy as dodgy mechanics.

Why don't you just say "No, I don't understand the ingredient list"?

Why the snarky attitude and reading comprehension issues?

You're acting like a vaccinated person (funny that). Avoiding at all costs the most simple of questions to justify a bad decision.

You are revealing your underlying anger through avoidance and passive aggressiveness, literally proving the OP's point.

Here's the question I actually asked, and that you (and every vaxed) keeps avoiding, try a third again:
Do you have an answer for injecting a substance with no ingredient list and no legal liability into your body?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


An ingredient list was provided, so your question is flawed and I shouldn't answer. But I'm feeling charitable and will answer anyway.

My answer for getting my jab was a measured one. Yes, nearly all treatments have a chance of having side effects. But it's a matter of playing the odds. Did I think the jab could have a bad side effect when I got it? Sure, but the odds for that are likely much lower than the roughly 2% chance of dying of covid. So that's why I got my jab.

Happy now?
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Here you go.

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

"The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine and SPIKEVAX (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) contain the
following ingredients: messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA), lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol
[PEG] 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG], cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-
phosphocholine [DSPC]), tromethamine, tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, sodium
acetate trihydrate, and sucrose"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80185305

To add:
Are you trying to tell me you look at that ingredient list and go, "Oh yeah, sure, that's all fine, and I completely understand what I am reading"... ?

A vaccine isn't scones (ingredient list: flour, butter, milk), and the onus to have more descriptive information is related to the complexity of the ingredients.

The initial "information inserts" were completely blank with these vaccines, so even if you DID know the ingredients at the beginning (which you didn't), you absolutely didn't have the explanatory information that is supposed to support those "ingredients"... for informed consent.

The information on the "ingredient list" has been deliberately opaque due to the controversy surrounding some of those ingredients.

Would you say that is a transparent list, and the whole vaccine rollout has been above board, and one of openness and transparency, or would you say otherwise?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


Yes I understood, researched, and decided it was safe for me to get injected into my body.
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries

... and like every vaxxed person you avoided the pertinent part of my question.

Here you go:
Do you have an answer for injecting a substance with no ingredient list (at the time, or publicly available information besides tangential research) and no legal liability into your body?

Since at the start there was no ingredient list, or information at all available (which is why it wasn't approved and only given Emergency Use Authorization... there WAS nothing much to research at the start (other than the deaths of some ferrets and rats)), because it was all held tightly behind NDA's and proprietary information.

In other words, private vested interest mattered more than public and open discussion.

So that means either, you are lying about researching at the time, or your idea of "research" is quite simply propaganda, and you are believing and propagating lies.

Or you are deliberately causing confusion (ie. you have some vested interest) around the topic to cover for the blatant lies.

Any which way, there is lies at the core of your post.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


All of the ingredients in all of the covid vaccines were known from the beginning
They’ve been posted here many times you shit stupid simp
Correcting the record one tard at a time

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Where's the evidence it DOES?

Oh yeah, on bitchute and youtube, where ALL the pseudoscientists get their info.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78648514



I'll play.
But 1st - it's not a "vaccine" by any historical definition.

It's, literally by name, "gene therapy". If it is not affecting the genes / genetics then what do you suppose it's doing? Or you're playing semantics between effecting "DNA" vs "mRNA"? (I never said it affected DNA directly btw. I don't know if it does or not? But it certainly modifies genetic functions).

I state: It's a viral gene injected into the body that forces the body (unnaturally) to make toxic spike proteins instead of fighting and flushing them, proteins which we already know OFTEN causes permanent damage to critical organs. But this gene therapy is experimental in nature so we don't even know the full extent of the damages it causes.

For links and proof to stake my claim I'll use Dr. Robert Malone, immunologist, virologist, top researcher, avid vaccine developer and promoter, and one of the leading inventors of the mRNA technology.

[link to wsau.com (secure)]
[link to hnewswire.com (secure)]

and the 16,000 scientist who stand with him in his assertions that these shots aren't safe.

[link to www.thedesertreview.com (secure)]

Your move.
 Quoting: Sumsitup


It doesn’t affect your DNA or modify genetic functions.
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries

There were studies that suggested mRNA could cause permanent changes to DNA even before the vaccine rollout.

I'm not going to be your source monkey... you're apparently a great researcher... you can go find them yourself if you're genuine (you don't seem genuine... it seems like you have a vested interest).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


There was one study and it was in vitro, and they added reverse transcriptase to make it happen. The only people that could potentially have reverse transcriptase in their bodies are HIV positive people.

I’ve already researched this and there is only that one study that is not applicable to living, normal people
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My parents and aunt are perfectly normal and they are boosted. Not everyone got a dirty jab.
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Just wait… May take another year or two but they are definitely damaged
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To add:
Are you trying to tell me you look at that ingredient list and go, "Oh yeah, sure, that's all fine, and I completely understand what I am reading"... ?

A vaccine isn't scones (ingredient list: flour, butter, milk), and the onus to have more descriptive information is related to the complexity of the ingredients.

The initial "information inserts" were completely blank with these vaccines, so even if you DID know the ingredients at the beginning (which you didn't), you absolutely didn't have the explanatory information that is supposed to support those "ingredients"... for informed consent.

The information on the "ingredient list" has been deliberately opaque due to the controversy surrounding some of those ingredients.

Would you say that is a transparent list, and the whole vaccine rollout has been above board, and one of openness and transparency, or would you say otherwise?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


If you're asking me if I went to medical school, no I didn't. But I don't need to know how a transmission works for me to take my car to a mechanic to have it fixed. That's what mechanics (and doctors) are for.
 Quoting: Captain Cosmos

No, I didn't ask that. You make an interesting point though... Doctor's after the last two years are about as trustworthy as dodgy mechanics.

Why don't you just say "No, I don't understand the ingredient list"?

Why the snarky attitude and reading comprehension issues?

You're acting like a vaccinated person (funny that). Avoiding at all costs the most simple of questions to justify a bad decision.

You are revealing your underlying anger through avoidance and passive aggressiveness, literally proving the OP's point.

Here's the question I actually asked, and that you (and every vaxed) keeps avoiding, try a third again:
Do you have an answer for injecting a substance with no ingredient list and no legal liability into your body?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


An ingredient list was provided, so your question is flawed and I shouldn't answer. But I'm feeling charitable and will answer anyway.

My answer for getting my jab was a measured one. Yes, nearly all treatments have a chance of having side effects. But it's a matter of playing the odds. Did I think the jab could have a bad side effect when I got it? Sure, but the odds for that are likely much lower than the roughly 2% chance of dying of covid. So that's why I got my jab.

Happy now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80185305


Its just not a jab it’s a mRNA gene altering experiment and the first time it’s been administered. You are now just a lab rat that has a zero chance of survival
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To add:
Are you trying to tell me you look at that ingredient list and go, "Oh yeah, sure, that's all fine, and I completely understand what I am reading"... ?

A vaccine isn't scones (ingredient list: flour, butter, milk), and the onus to have more descriptive information is related to the complexity of the ingredients.

The initial "information inserts" were completely blank with these vaccines, so even if you DID know the ingredients at the beginning (which you didn't), you absolutely didn't have the explanatory information that is supposed to support those "ingredients"... for informed consent.

The information on the "ingredient list" has been deliberately opaque due to the controversy surrounding some of those ingredients.

Would you say that is a transparent list, and the whole vaccine rollout has been above board, and one of openness and transparency, or would you say otherwise?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


If you're asking me if I went to medical school, no I didn't. But I don't need to know how a transmission works for me to take my car to a mechanic to have it fixed. That's what mechanics (and doctors) are for.
 Quoting: Captain Cosmos

No, I didn't ask that. You make an interesting point though... Doctor's after the last two years are about as trustworthy as dodgy mechanics.

Why don't you just say "No, I don't understand the ingredient list"?

Why the snarky attitude and reading comprehension issues?

You're acting like a vaccinated person (funny that). Avoiding at all costs the most simple of questions to justify a bad decision.

You are revealing your underlying anger through avoidance and passive aggressiveness, literally proving the OP's point.

Here's the question I actually asked, and that you (and every vaxed) keeps avoiding, try a third again:
Do you have an answer for injecting a substance with no ingredient list and no legal liability into your body?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


An ingredient list was provided, so your question is flawed and I shouldn't answer. But I'm feeling charitable and will answer anyway.

My answer for getting my jab was a measured one. Yes, nearly all treatments have a chance of having side effects. But it's a matter of playing the odds. Did I think the jab could have a bad side effect when I got it? Sure, but the odds for that are likely much lower than the roughly 2% chance of dying of covid. So that's why I got my jab.

Happy now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80185305

I'm always happy.

And cheers for the answer.

Though, there definitely wasn't an ingredient list until months after the "trials" had begun. Then there was only a truncated list for some of the vaccines, for more months, and as noted, even now, when there are lists available, the manufacturers have admitted that these are not full lists, on their own websites, referring to "proprietary information" and "trade secrets" behind some of the ingredients.

Also, you STILL didn't answer the liability bit of the question.

The bit that I keep pointing out gets avoided by the vaccinated, and is the most pertinent part, that deserves an answer.

Your numbers are wrong too... 2%?... more like 0.02%, if it was even from COVID, rather than with (that type of misreporting has now been confirmed many times over).

Just anecdotally, I know more than a hundred (hundreds really) people who have had positive "COVID" results that disprove those numbers pretty easily. Plus, there is no test for a virus anyway (last I heard reported was 40% accuracy for the PCR tests... before they stopped reporting on test accuracy... less than a coin).

So. Thank you for your answer, but it really was a cherry picked response, that as always with the vaccinated, doesn't address the most pertinent points at hand.
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because they know if you inject random untested stuff periodically, you might as well start shooting up heroin.
and clearly dont care about your self.

ive heard several vaxxed people even say "well if i die because of it then we all die"

to which i obviously informed them about all the people that didnt take the 'vaccine'
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I'll play.
But 1st - it's not a "vaccine" by any historical definition.

It's, literally by name, "gene therapy". If it is not affecting the genes / genetics then what do you suppose it's doing? Or you're playing semantics between effecting "DNA" vs "mRNA"? (I never said it affected DNA directly btw. I don't know if it does or not? But it certainly modifies genetic functions).

I state: It's a viral gene injected into the body that forces the body (unnaturally) to make toxic spike proteins instead of fighting and flushing them, proteins which we already know OFTEN causes permanent damage to critical organs. But this gene therapy is experimental in nature so we don't even know the full extent of the damages it causes.

For links and proof to stake my claim I'll use Dr. Robert Malone, immunologist, virologist, top researcher, avid vaccine developer and promoter, and one of the leading inventors of the mRNA technology.

[link to wsau.com (secure)]
[link to hnewswire.com (secure)]

and the 16,000 scientist who stand with him in his assertions that these shots aren't safe.

[link to www.thedesertreview.com (secure)]

Your move.
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It doesn’t affect your DNA or modify genetic functions.
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries

There were studies that suggested mRNA could cause permanent changes to DNA even before the vaccine rollout.

I'm not going to be your source monkey... you're apparently a great researcher... you can go find them yourself if you're genuine (you don't seem genuine... it seems like you have a vested interest).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


There was one study and it was in vitro, and they added reverse transcriptase to make it happen. The only people that could potentially have reverse transcriptase in their bodies are HIV positive people.

I’ve already researched this and there is only that one study that is not applicable to living, normal people
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries

There were actually a few papers in the microbiology area that suggested mRNA could permanently alter DNA before te pandemic.

I found one from 2013 and another from 2017, and they both had a fair amount of related references that could have been followed up further.

As I said, they were tangentially related (one was making permanent changes in fungi, another was in an insect from memory).

The point is though, that we did know that mRNA could potentially alter DNA.

Saying we didn't is quite simply academic dishonesty, or you are not across the literature as much as you think.

What's more, you refer to "living normal people" as people who aren't HIV positive, though there are studies that both suggest there are HIV inserts in the COVID (so everyone that has had COVID could be potentially HIV positive) and that suffers of both COVID and the vaccines have tested positive for HIV.

Also, an Australian vaccine development program at Queensland University was shut down in 2020 because subjects were testing positive for HIV... hmmm

So it's not a far stretch to see how this mRNA vaccine could be altering the DNA of the vaccinated.
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An ingredient list was provided, so your question is flawed and I shouldn't answer. But I'm feeling charitable and will answer anyway.

My answer for getting my jab was a measured one. Yes, nearly all treatments have a chance of having side effects. But it's a matter of playing the odds. Did I think the jab could have a bad side effect when I got it? Sure, but the odds for that are likely much lower than the roughly 2% chance of dying of covid. So that's why I got my jab.

Happy now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80185305


There was an ingredient list, it was the side effects or adverse reaction list that was not there to read.

You must be over 60 or have pre-existing conditions, because the covid death rate for people under 40 was 0.2%, for people 40-50 was 0.4%, and for people 50-60 was about 1.3%. It was only people over age 60 or people with serious pre-existing conditions that ever had any real risk from covid itself. For that over 60 group, the risks of the covid vax were debatable, but it was pretty much always a very poor decision for anyone under 60, and an especially terrible decision for kids or mothers who were pregnant.

If you were under 60 and you thought of the vaccine as a risk/reward equation or a stock in the stock market you were thinking of buying, it would compute as one of the worst investments you could possibly ever make. 20 years of prior research had never come up with a coronavirus vaccine that could even make it through animal trials without serious side effects or animal deaths, but suddenly Pfizer designs their whole vaccine in 24 hours and Moderna designs theirs in 48 hours and they are off to human trials?

Ask yourself this, how did they design the original vaccine in two days max, but it is taking them months to even come out with a minor change to the vaccine to specifically target the omicron variant instead of original covid-19?
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If you're asking me if I went to medical school, no I didn't. But I don't need to know how a transmission works for me to take my car to a mechanic to have it fixed. That's what mechanics (and doctors) are for.
 Quoting: Captain Cosmos

No, I didn't ask that. You make an interesting point though... Doctor's after the last two years are about as trustworthy as dodgy mechanics.

Why don't you just say "No, I don't understand the ingredient list"?

Why the snarky attitude and reading comprehension issues?

You're acting like a vaccinated person (funny that). Avoiding at all costs the most simple of questions to justify a bad decision.

You are revealing your underlying anger through avoidance and passive aggressiveness, literally proving the OP's point.

Here's the question I actually asked, and that you (and every vaxed) keeps avoiding, try a third again:
Do you have an answer for injecting a substance with no ingredient list and no legal liability into your body?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


An ingredient list was provided, so your question is flawed and I shouldn't answer. But I'm feeling charitable and will answer anyway.

My answer for getting my jab was a measured one. Yes, nearly all treatments have a chance of having side effects. But it's a matter of playing the odds. Did I think the jab could have a bad side effect when I got it? Sure, but the odds for that are likely much lower than the roughly 2% chance of dying of covid. So that's why I got my jab.

Happy now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80185305

I'm always happy.

And cheers for the answer.

Though, there definitely wasn't an ingredient list until months after the "trials" had begun. Then there was only a truncated list for some of the vaccines, for more months, and as noted, even now, when there are lists available, the manufacturers have admitted that these are not full lists, on their own websites, referring to "proprietary information" and "trade secrets" behind some of the ingredients.

Also, you STILL didn't answer the liability bit of the question.

The bit that I keep pointing out gets avoided by the vaccinated, and is the most pertinent part, that deserves an answer.

Your numbers are wrong too... 2%?... more like 0.02%, if it was even from COVID, rather than with (that type of misreporting has now been confirmed many times over).

Just anecdotally, I know more than a hundred (hundreds really) people who have had positive "COVID" results that disprove those numbers pretty easily. Plus, there is no test for a virus anyway (last I heard reported was 40% accuracy for the PCR tests... before they stopped reporting on test accuracy... less than a coin).

So. Thank you for your answer, but it really was a cherry picked response, that as always with the vaccinated, doesn't address the most pertinent points at hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


Excellent posts, but you might as well give up.

"Vaccination" is a sacrament to these people, and they give their complete trust to the priesthood of government officials, and people wearing white lab coats.

You will never get any reasoned debate from them, and certainly not an answer to your legal liability question.

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They never got the free gift cards they were promised. They mad now.
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It doesn’t affect your DNA or modify genetic functions.
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries

There were studies that suggested mRNA could cause permanent changes to DNA even before the vaccine rollout.

I'm not going to be your source monkey... you're apparently a great researcher... you can go find them yourself if you're genuine (you don't seem genuine... it seems like you have a vested interest).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


There was one study and it was in vitro, and they added reverse transcriptase to make it happen. The only people that could potentially have reverse transcriptase in their bodies are HIV positive people.

I’ve already researched this and there is only that one study that is not applicable to living, normal people
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries

There were actually a few papers in the microbiology area that suggested mRNA could permanently alter DNA before te pandemic.

I found one from 2013 and another from 2017, and they both had a fair amount of related references that could have been followed up further.

As I said, they were tangentially related (one was making permanent changes in fungi, another was in an insect from memory).

The point is though, that we did know that mRNA could potentially alter DNA.

Saying we didn't is quite simply academic dishonesty, or you are not across the literature as much as you think.

What's more, you refer to "living normal people" as people who aren't HIV positive, though there are studies that both suggest there are HIV inserts in the COVID (so everyone that has had COVID could be potentially HIV positive) and that suffers of both COVID and the vaccines have tested positive for HIV.

Also, an Australian vaccine development program at Queensland University was shut down in 2020 because subjects were testing positive for HIV... hmmm

So it's not a far stretch to see how this mRNA vaccine could be altering the DNA of the vaccinated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


And yet you still can’t link to said paper’s confirming your assertions, let alone a legit peer reviewed doc
Correcting the record one tard at a time

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It doesn’t affect your DNA or modify genetic functions.
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries

There were studies that suggested mRNA could cause permanent changes to DNA even before the vaccine rollout.

I'm not going to be your source monkey... you're apparently a great researcher... you can go find them yourself if you're genuine (you don't seem genuine... it seems like you have a vested interest).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


There was one study and it was in vitro, and they added reverse transcriptase to make it happen. The only people that could potentially have reverse transcriptase in their bodies are HIV positive people.

I’ve already researched this and there is only that one study that is not applicable to living, normal people
 Quoting: Sharon Cherries

There were actually a few papers in the microbiology area that suggested mRNA could permanently alter DNA before te pandemic.

I found one from 2013 and another from 2017, and they both had a fair amount of related references that could have been followed up further.

As I said, they were tangentially related (one was making permanent changes in fungi, another was in an insect from memory).

The point is though, that we did know that mRNA could potentially alter DNA.

Saying we didn't is quite simply academic dishonesty, or you are not across the literature as much as you think.

What's more, you refer to "living normal people" as people who aren't HIV positive, though there are studies that both suggest there are HIV inserts in the COVID (so everyone that has had COVID could be potentially HIV positive) and that suffers of both COVID and the vaccines have tested positive for HIV.

Also, an Australian vaccine development program at Queensland University was shut down in 2020 because subjects were testing positive for HIV... hmmm

So it's not a far stretch to see how this mRNA vaccine could be altering the DNA of the vaccinated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83769380


Yes it is a very far stretch. Altering DNA like those other papers you mention was about the structure of the DNA, not the information it contained (genes). Now if a structural “fold” or something cut off access to a needed gene, the cell will just die. To actually permanently alter someone’s DNA, you have to add, subtract or scramble the information it contains.

If COVID had the HIV gene for reverse transcriptase then it would have been all over the news and you would have seen infected people killed. It’s nonsense.





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