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This seems high? According to the U.S. Department of Transportation, approximately 183 bus crashes occur every day, or over 67,000 accidents annually.

Is this video Quackery?



Last Edited by Lago on 11/17/2023 03:57 PM

LAGO i got kicked for typing a post bout the vax and MRNA vaccines. damn govern doesn't want u to think. have u kept up with the info on the other thread? have u seen the excess death rates? not goin to retype the whole post.

there is no way to know who the new vaccines will harm. not enuf research for that. magically it is safe according to the CDC once BIDEN moved into the WH. nice logic.

risks outweigh benefits.

i too would like to go back to a pre-covid life style. i know i sound crazy and have to question the merge theory myself. there isn't data to confirm it all the time. then we have news drops like this past week.

all sorts or nastys are out there and running wild. the govern isn't going to tell us the truth. we have to read between the lines and use logic to see what does not make sence. 1 of the news drops by itself might b easy to explain away. we have too many to deny that something has changed.

2 things have covid escaped a Bio-Lab and ppl are vaxed. thinking as a mad scientist- how would u ensure your man made nasty would get to all ppl and spread so well? use birds as carriers. to keep ppl in the dark and working since the nasty escaped the lab before it was finished, what would u do? make an anti-dote to buy time but not fully cure them. instead of ppl dying quickly have them die over a decade or 2.

to keep them safe, TPTB have to continue to conduct the Great Experiment. use boosters or brand the vax under another name.

nope i'm not ready to throw away 3 years of avoiding covid for a dinner out or any other activity that i miss. risk is too high.

i too would like to go back to a pre-covid life style. i know i sound crazy and have to question the merge theory myself. there isn't data to confirm it all the time. then we have news drops like this past week.

all sorts or nastys are out there and running wild. the govern isn't going to tell us the truth. we have to read between the lines and use logic to see what does not make sence. 1 of the news drops by itself might b easy to explain away. we have too many to deny that something has changed.

2 things have covid escaped a Bio-Lab and ppl are vaxed. thinking as a mad scientist- how would u ensure your man made nasty would get to all ppl and spread so well? use birds as carriers. to keep ppl in the dark and working since the nasty escaped the lab before it was finished, what would u do? make an anti-dote to buy time but not fully cure them. instead of ppl dying quickly have them die over a decade or 2.

to keep them safe, TPTB have to continue to conduct the Great Experiment. use boosters or brand the vax under another name.

nope i'm not ready to throw away 3 years of avoiding covid for a dinner out or any other activity that i miss. risk is too high.

I broke down and got the shingles shots this year. I do NOT want shingles EVER..so. 1st shot, sore arm, 2nd shot REALLY sore arm and tired and crappy for a few days.

I quite understand at your age opting out for a few years. At our age though (past the biblical allotted life-span, three score years + 10 or "septuaginta anni"), being able to enjoy three more years of interacting with our grand-child, family and friends, restaurants, vacations, possibly selling and buying fun real estate, etc., is pretty great and heavily outweighs the risks for us!

Last Edited by Lago on 11/18/2023 12:54 PM

have any of the rest of u noticed where the pedelum is on taking guns? can u see it?

mentally ill are doing the shootings. next up claims of PSD. even vets won't b able to have guns soon. they will b classed as not stable enuf. a Red Flag law will drape across them all.

after they pull it off, they can easily claim "if the best trained can't b trusted with guns...." step by step toward their goal. subtle and slowly, but they is winning.

Was uncle doom or his wife covid-19 vaccinated?

Last Edited by Lago on 11/18/2023 05:35 AM

no

As they are both now, presumably, dead, and were ostensibly heavily participating in many alternative treatments, can you infer anything from that?

Last Edited by Lago on 11/18/2023 05:42 AM

Thread: “Massive Snow Storm” to Slam New York on Wednesday, Thanksgiving Eve

Hey Jazz! Better look at your weather. We're not getting snow after all, according to today's forecast. Our snowbelt might.

yes a cpl things.

never trust anyone. since both were infected by ppl who hid being sick and both the ppl who did so should have known better as they worked in medical.

all the best meds/vitamins do not work 100%. this includes horse paste and many others. how much they do help needs more research.

the best PPE practices can fail. none protect 100%. even the most rigorous protocals can fail. saw this personally as well.

so much depends on the person's own genetics and health. we can't tell who will b hit the hardest. we do know that the risk of a bad outcome goes up the more health issues the person has had.

the more u are exposed the higher the risk of not only getting infected but also of a bad outcome.

go back to my posts on "cummulative damage". there's a list on avoiding covid. 1 big point was giving the body time between possible exposures to regroup and re-arm its own immune system between exposures. give yourself rest between outings as long as u can. i think this is critical, especially with vax shedders.

i understand that due to work ppl can't always do that. UD and his wife worked in very high risk situations. exposed to many ppl who were sick and traveled to hot zones.

lot more research is needed for covid and any meds or vaccines. being lied to doesn't help the situation at all. the reality is 180 degrees opposite of what we are told. the rick today is much higher than 2020. more ppl are carrying covid as well as others.

nothing is 100%. less u live in a bubble or bunker. the goal is to minimize the risk as much as we can.

we are dropping down to mid 40's for highs. shows the storm coming thru with warm air and temp drop after. have seen no white stuff here yet. local guy was saying a year ago last week we had a good size storm.

RYAN and the NY governor are a day different in their own maps/charts. RYAN shows us rain, Catskills thru Albany on with snow, poss ice. then snow bands off the GL's THURS. don't see anything bad and no 7ft snow.

It keeps changing. Only reason I'm paying attention to it is because of the kids traveling.

Thank you!! Yeah, what I was finding on Amazon and google didn't look like that at all.

You're welcome. I haven't put mine together yet. It came in when my allergies had me down for the count. Then, the weather was bad and I couldn't do it outside. I will today or tomorrow.

I saw all those different rakes. I don't have any experience with them. Just the one in the link and the normal, yardwork kinds.

LAGO, mayb i should explain things differently.

1st i do realize not everyone can b hermits and hide from the virus. work must continue or society would collapse due to no power and no supplies. not everyone can handle the mental or emotional stress changes either.

my issues with the vax aren't just the side effects. the ppl were lied to and misled on covid and the vax the whole way. they were not given true facts to make any informed decisions. the vax was pushed down their throats as a true vaccine, when it was not. originally MSM told us the vax was made too fast and not tested enuf. but then magically it was a miracle potion that was totally 100% safe once we changed presidents. that is totally BS. the vax could care less who is in the WH. this logic alone should scare the hell out of everyone. and no there was not enuf time to know long term side effects from the time TRUMP released the vax and BIDEN took office.

since ppl were lied to, we have to ask why and why was the vax pushed knowing the issues? is it to cull the population? there is other evidence to point to that. look around, are not whites being pushed out and diversity pushed up? if it was just to get the economy open, remember not many in the US had to stop working. the "lockdown" is a lie as well. ot much was truely locked down. restaraunts sold thru drive thru windows. stores were open, just "social distance". office ppl, which is most of our govern and upper level workers, worked from home. what really stopped was tourism and bars. but ppl did still work to produce goods, grow food, and haul supplies. granted the US does not produce much itself. so yes some goods were in short supply due to ov er seas processing taking hits. but a lot of the shortage was due to port workers having issues. they wanted to not work like the other govern workers.

on top of that there is a reverse CT on going. govern ppl go online and push the covid is the flu. Farci started this himself by saying ppl didn't need masks. again, ppl were lied to and not given true facts. our govern was not prepared for any pandemic, yet i guarantee we spent loads of $$ each and every year from the budget. where did our $$ go?

"acceptable risk" requires u to know the facts and then make an informed decision on how well u protect yourself. but u must know the risk. and now u need to know the risk of both covid and the vax. not just short term but long term as well. what happens 5 yrs from now if u get sick this winter? what will your life b like if u can't walk as far due to less lung capacity? will u b more likely to b ill after taking any vaccines?

there is too much unknown. since we are lied to we have to assume where reality is and what might happen. and we have to consider the risks more so. how bad is it that they have to lie and bribe ppl?

i think 10 yrs or so from now history will tell a different tale. that we screwed up in handling this virus. they'll blame MAGA ppl for the govern's own reverse CT. but they will also state that dropping procedures to fast track a vaccine was wrong. those procedures and testing protocals were put into place to protect the ppl. bypassing them did lead to more deaths. opening up society,again it was not closed as much as the news tells u, too quickly spread the virus and together with the vax led to more ppl being exposed.

if that is all history has to say, we would b lucky. IMO we aren't done seeing what covid can do. i have several theories based on the evidence of watching what governs do not just what they say. much of what i have said has been backed up over time with reports and studies.

covid hides in ppl. this has been proven. ppl on fishing trips got sick even thou they had not been near anyone for weeks. ppl carried covid to ANTARCTICA. were they not checked and tested before making the trip? ppl with LC getting re-infected and tests showed the variant was too simmilar to the 1 they had before. covid defied tests in hospitalized patients way back in early 2020. stool samples showed positive when the other tests failed.

now what we do not know concretely yet is- how long does it hide and does it do damage while it hides? so far evidence suggests yes. in minor cases ppl have shown damages. can this b reversed is open to debate and would require developing new meds. but again who do we trust to do that?

merges. i've explained too many times. yes this 1 may b wrong. there is evidence to them. so far none have gone deadly and spread far. however, nature shows the odds of any nasty being deadly and contagious enuf to spread globally to b super low. a high killing fast acting virus would burn out. it would kill faster than spread. but in covid's case it kills slowly over time by doing the organ damages.

this thing is a BIO, man-made virus not natural. and it has shown to defy the old rules. govern is looking for something. why would they do that? why are we culling animals at such a high rate? they are trying to stamp out wild fires before they start spreading or jumping species. evidence shows they are failing. so far they have stopped the jump from any mammals back to humans from spreading. but they are not stopping the spread in animals.

society as we knew it in 2019 is long gone. many more changes are coming. what we must realize or think on is 10 yrs from now is will we have regrets for our individual decisions?

let's start here tonight. i mention that we need to read between the lines and see subtle clues. starting to see some wording oddities with the so-called bird flu in domestic bird outbreaks.

think of it this way. if u were an insider and can not blow your cover by telling the truth, how do u get some intel out to the public? u drop some clues, subtle hints, that might not b caught by higher ups and can b explained as a bad choice of words or editing missed them. this would b even more if u are trying to send a message to a counter part in another country. give a clue for someone else to look into and possibly confirm your finding.

NETHERLANDS - New Variant Bird Flu Virus

" contains a new piece of genome... from a low-pathogenic virus....bears a strong resemblance to the virus that has caused many outbreaks since 2021." vqariant of H5N1.

" HPAI H5N1 genotype BB caused high mortality among black-headed gulls... caused the outbreak at the laying farm...(24 July),but did not cause any outbreaks in poultry thereafter"

currently unknown how pathogenic or infectious the new virus variant is to poultry.

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admission of multiple variant occurring with no explanation as to why mutations are happening. and some show to b less lethal to some birds. this leaves us with lots of unknowns. is the new variant mutating toward a species jump? is it just the virus is mutating down? are the birds becoming more immune to it?

i have said not all bird flues are the same. what is called bird flu among mammals appears at best to b carried by birds but not affecting them. now we have evidence that the bird flues are very different among birds themselves. and by now we have 100's of outbreaks all over the world.

math would show the odds are many mutations would burn themself out. kill faster than spread. others would b benign and cause little harm. same applies to covid and others. but if the marbles mix 50/50 which will happen as it keeps spreading, what happens then? medium kill rate but also spreading. even a 10-20% die off of all birds will cause issues. not just less food but also more insects.

back to horses with more clues hidden in the report.


FLORIDA - Two Florida Horses Positive For EEE

quotes are from the articles BTW-

" Mosquitoes that feed on EEE-infected birds can transmit the virus to humans, horses and other birds."

the next lines are weird and appear by common sence to contradict itself.

"Horses do not develop high enough levels of these viruses in their blood to be contagious to other animals or humans. Because of the high mortality rate in horses and humans...."

" EEE is regarded as one of the most serious mosquito-borne diseases"

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see the trend between the lines? birds to insect to mammal.
"don't worry it is rare/not bad" but is very deadly." they are dumbing down the info. BTW what are the odds of all the horse reports coming out within a few wks and not scattered throughout a full year? that stinks worse than fish.

i'm crazy... umm but what scares me and should scare the hell out of u is i've been right more than wrong time and again.

remember the horse WNV in CA?

"CALIFORNIA - El Dorado County Reports Its First West Nile Virus Death Of The Year"

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"Multiple other nearby counties...also reported WNV deaths earlier this year

at risk are people over the age of 60 with major underlying medical conditions..."

that all sound familiar? the person that died was 55.

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any excuse is a good 1, i suppose.

Canada ship can't unload coal in PANAMA.

"If coal temperature exceeds 55 deg, coal might combust or explode..."

anyone ever burn coal? we did when i was a kid. we kept it inside near the stove. it never caught fire. ppl have been storing coal for eons in cellars as well.wonder how they keep the coal cool passing by the Equator??

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Thread: USDA has updated the plant hardiness map.


is quite different for some of us.

West Virginia outta' be a huge crater by now

Never seen a coal train stopped yet cause the temp was to high

Coal and a Pot Belly Stove

Banked a coal fire on many cold nights

Bullshit. The lower explosive limit for coal dust is over 600 degrees (F). Who the hell said it was 55?

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Sitting in a doctor's office for a follow-up exam. Over a dozen people sitting in a waiting area roughly 20' x 10', no masks, and at least three people with deep hacking coughs.

I'm not paranoid about covid, but I am a little cautious and still observe social distancing, and this is ridiculous. I'm isolated as possible in a corner chair with the chair next to me empty. Just goes to show what the medical profession thinks about it.