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NWS report on Lubbock, TX tornado 1970

The tornado killed 26 people and injured more than 1500 along its 8.5 mile track, while covering about 15 square miles of Lubbock. Dr. Theodore "Ted" Fujita later determined that all but one of the deaths (96%) occurred along the path of suction spots (also know as suction swaths and suction marks). These suction spots, which create localized areas of increased damage, are created when smaller-scale vortices develop and rotate around the larger parent tornado forming a multiple-vortex tornado. The below map shows where the deaths from the tornado were in proximity to the suction spots.

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3.25 inches of precipitation was reported at the airport from all the rain and hail received

The second, most destructive tornado, was 1 1/2 miles wide early on, before narrowing to about 1/4 mile wide by the time it reached the airport.

10,000 automobiles were damaged or destroyed

119 aircraft were demolished at the airport

Area of the tornado damage covered 15 square miles.

600 apartment units were demolished, 250 businesses damaged or destroyed

8,800 family units damaged, of which 430 were destroyed

In downtown Lubbock, an estimated 80% of all plate glass windows were smashed

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Although devastating to Lubbock, a number of positive outcomes resulted from the Lubbock tornado of 1970:

1. The tornado was used as inspiration and justification for the establishment of the Wind Science and Engineering (WISE) Research Center at Texas Tech University. WISE has developed voluminous information on windstorm mitigation and other wind-related subjects that are available to professionals and public alike. The WISE center has brought many professionals, much money, and tremendous recognition to the South Plains.

2. The tornado also helped in the selection of Lubbock as one of the very first NWS offices to receive a WSR-74C radar. The Lubbock WSR-74C radar became operational in 1978.

3. The study of the meteorological data from May 11, 1970, in combination with an extensive damage survey completed in Lubbock of the aftermath, helped, in part, in the development of the Fujita Tornado Damage Scale (F-scale) by Tetsuya Theodore (Ted) Fujita. The F-scale is the de facto standard used to rank tornadoes by the amount of damage that they inflict.

4. The study of the damage patterns, especially from overhead with aerial photos, allowed Dr. Fujita to further develop his theory that some tornadoes contained more than one vortex (i.e., there were multiple vortex tornadoes).

less than 50%

Lot's more in the article. Easy and interesting read. Search for Lubbock, TX 1970 tornado and you'll find a ton of film, if you're interested.
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Riff. Check out these pictures.
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Riff. Check out these pictures.
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Rotation patterns in fields are really cool. I've seen that before here in Indiana. One of the things we look for to determine tornadic damage from straight-line wind damage.

Spotting hurricanes is just as awesome as spotting tornadoes.
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still rumbling-

Thread: Deepsea eruption expected off Vancouver Island after 200 earthquakes in an hour
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


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Thread: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month (Page 544)

update from DR. WW3 imminent.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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do u see effects from all the strikes? well b careful where u put your hands.

South Africa - Durban: Snakes in the city? The waste crisis and snakes

Durban’s municipal strike that began on February 27 has led to waste piling up on pavements, street corners, and even on private properties.
The problem with the accumulation of waste is that the local rodent population flourishes.
And of course, with the increased number of rodents, there are likely to be more predators like snakes.

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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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“May your pockets be heavy, your heart be light, and may good luck pursue you morning and night”

A belated "Happy St Patrick’s Day!"

Mrs. Lago made Corn Beef and Cabbage! Grandson was sucking on the cabbage after a day at RC racing.

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I rise early, make coffee, look out at the rooftops and I feel lucky. Today is my day. Other people, God bless them, go see their therapist. I never did. What would we talk about? I enjoy my work, I love my wife, my heart got repaired years ago so I didn’t die at 59 when I was supposed to. My dream life is mostly very chipper, sociable, sometimes I’m hauling crates of fish along a wharf in the Orkney Islands, one Orker bursts into song and we all sing together, me singing bass in a language I don’t understand, and I’m rather contented in my sleep. Why should I argue with gifts? A therapist would turn this inside out and make it a form of denial. It isn’t. I’d tell her the joke about the man walking by the insane asylum, hearing the lunatics yelling, “Twenty-one! Twenty-one!” and he puts his eye to a hole in the fence to see what’s going on and they poke him in the eye and yell, “Twenty-two! Twenty-two!” and she’d find a hidden meaning in it but there isn’t one, just a sharp stick. I’m not going to talk about my father because he’s dead and one does not speak ill of the dead, they are waiting for us and we will join them soon enough, meanwhile I feel good and thank you very much for asking. Sometimes, in church, when peace, like a river, attendeth my way, I feel actually joyful, I truly do.

Way less than 50%!

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Disney health scare: Officials warn of potential measles outbreak linked to Disney On Ice show in Ohio

Attendees at the ice show in an arena that seats 17k were exposed to measles
Officials said people should monitor for symptoms including fever and rash

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Disney health scare: Officials warn of potential measles outbreak linked to Disney On Ice show in Ohio

Attendees at the ice show in an arena that seats 17k were exposed to measles
Officials said people should monitor for symptoms including fever and rash

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reports say the current global measles outbreaks stem from the ME. for now, we do not have a merge and it is infecting un-vaccinated. hopefully, it stays that way.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Just caught a glimpse of a commercial on our local tv news. They're planning all day coverage of the eclipse. I wasn't too worried about it, but they're still hyping the whole "get prepped" thing and now there are plans to activate the National Guard. I can see that they could be needed in the bigger cities, but all the .gov hype is kind of over kill right now.

What do they know that we don't?

I don't tend to look for conspiracy right off the bat, but this has me wondering.
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Just caught a glimpse of a commercial on our local tv news. They're planning all day coverage of the eclipse. I wasn't too worried about it, but they're still hyping the whole "get prepped" thing and now there are plans to activate the National Guard. I can see that they could be needed in the bigger cities, but all the .gov hype is kind of over kill right now.

What do they know that we don't?

I don't tend to look for conspiracy right off the bat, but this has me wondering.
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I agree.
Seems overkill.
Like to point where a lot of people think it’s ridiculous.
Would be a perfect time to knock out the internet and/or cell service.
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Just caught a glimpse of a commercial on our local tv news. They're planning all day coverage of the eclipse. I wasn't too worried about it, but they're still hyping the whole "get prepped" thing and now there are plans to activate the National Guard. I can see that they could be needed in the bigger cities, but all the .gov hype is kind of over kill right now.

What do they know that we don't?

I don't tend to look for conspiracy right off the bat, but this has me wondering.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I agree.
Seems overkill.
Like to point where a lot of people think it’s ridiculous.
Would be a perfect time to knock out the internet and/or cell service.
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But how would we even know? Idk about where you are, but I haven't been to impressed by our internet since we moved. Buckeye Broadband was pretty good, but we have Spectrum now. It's going to have problems, for sure.
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And...they're already saying we might lose our cellphone service, because of overload. That's most likely true. There are certain times of the year that happens, like during high summer.

Until now, I was more worried about the kids driving in heavy traffic or the weather being bad, or would I have enough food for the weekend. 'Cause, I'm not planning on driving to the store those days. You know, gramma stuff!
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And...they're already saying we might lose our cellphone service, because of overload. That's most likely true. There are certain times of the year that happens, like during high summer.

Until now, I was more worried about the kids driving in heavy traffic or the weather being bad, or would I have enough food for the weekend. 'Cause, I'm not planning on driving to the store those days. You know, gramma stuff!
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Indianapolis DHS is recommending that local residents stock up on basic supplies and fill their gas tanks the Friday prior to the eclipse due to the expected surge in out-of-state people that will be coming to the state.
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I passed my exam this morning. I am now a certified CHST (Construction Health & Safety Technician)!
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And...they're already saying we might lose our cellphone service, because of overload. That's most likely true. There are certain times of the year that happens, like during high summer.

Until now, I was more worried about the kids driving in heavy traffic or the weather being bad, or would I have enough food for the weekend. 'Cause, I'm not planning on driving to the store those days. You know, gramma stuff!
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Ohio’s Emergency Order doesn’t expire until end of the day on April 10th. Doesn’t looks like the Secretary of State signed it. Maybe he signed it after it was scanned?

Governor DeWine Signs Executive Order Ahead of Total Solar Eclipse

March 13, 2024

The Executive Order directs all State departments and agencies to be ready and prepared to ensure the health and safety of all Ohioans and visitors before, during, and after the eclipse. Ohio Emergency Management Agency (Ohio EMA) is coordinating the state’s preparation and response to the event, and all law enforcement agencies are prepared to respond with necessary personnel and resources to assist local law enforcement in contributing to the safety and security of Ohio residents and tourists.

[link to governor.ohio.gov (secure)]
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I passed my exam this morning. I am now a certified CHST (Construction Health & Safety Technician)!
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Congrats!
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I passed my exam this morning. I am now a certified CHST (Construction Health & Safety Technician)!
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Congrats!
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Thank you, sir!
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I passed my exam this morning. I am now a certified CHST (Construction Health & Safety Technician)!
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I knew you would! Congrats!
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And...they're already saying we might lose our cellphone service, because of overload. That's most likely true. There are certain times of the year that happens, like during high summer.

Until now, I was more worried about the kids driving in heavy traffic or the weather being bad, or would I have enough food for the weekend. 'Cause, I'm not planning on driving to the store those days. You know, gramma stuff!
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye



Ohio’s Emergency Order doesn’t expire until end of the day on April 10th. Doesn’t looks like the Secretary of State signed it. Maybe he signed it after it was scanned?

Governor DeWine Signs Executive Order Ahead of Total Solar Eclipse

March 13, 2024

The Executive Order directs all State departments and agencies to be ready and prepared to ensure the health and safety of all Ohioans and visitors before, during, and after the eclipse. Ohio Emergency Management Agency (Ohio EMA) is coordinating the state’s preparation and response to the event, and all law enforcement agencies are prepared to respond with necessary personnel and resources to assist local law enforcement in contributing to the safety and security of Ohio residents and tourists.

[link to governor.ohio.gov (secure)]
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That actually makes sense. Gives everyone time to get back home.
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I passed my exam this morning. I am now a certified CHST (Construction Health & Safety Technician)!
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clap clap clap
A whole new level of fuckery
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And...they're already saying we might lose our cellphone service, because of overload. That's most likely true. There are certain times of the year that happens, like during high summer.

Until now, I was more worried about the kids driving in heavy traffic or the weather being bad, or would I have enough food for the weekend. 'Cause, I'm not planning on driving to the store those days. You know, gramma stuff!
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye



Ohio’s Emergency Order doesn’t expire until end of the day on April 10th. Doesn’t looks like the Secretary of State signed it. Maybe he signed it after it was scanned?

Governor DeWine Signs Executive Order Ahead of Total Solar Eclipse

March 13, 2024

The Executive Order directs all State departments and agencies to be ready and prepared to ensure the health and safety of all Ohioans and visitors before, during, and after the eclipse. Ohio Emergency Management Agency (Ohio EMA) is coordinating the state’s preparation and response to the event, and all law enforcement agencies are prepared to respond with necessary personnel and resources to assist local law enforcement in contributing to the safety and security of Ohio residents and tourists.

[link to governor.ohio.gov (secure)]
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That actually makes sense. Gives everyone time to get back home.
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It is going to be CRAZY where I am. We are in the path of totality! I can just stay home and watch it in my back yard, thankfully. I'm hoping Mrs Spinal's work closes that day or she will never get home. I almost hope that there is a huge ass lake effect storm or something. Our housing market is hottest in the country right now, and we DON'T WANT ANY MORE PEOPLE. If there is some huge storm, it will chase them away from even thinking about moving there! ha ha ha
A whole new level of fuckery
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And...they're already saying we might lose our cellphone service, because of overload. That's most likely true. There are certain times of the year that happens, like during high summer.

Until now, I was more worried about the kids driving in heavy traffic or the weather being bad, or would I have enough food for the weekend. 'Cause, I'm not planning on driving to the store those days. You know, gramma stuff!
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye



Ohio’s Emergency Order doesn’t expire until end of the day on April 10th. Doesn’t looks like the Secretary of State signed it. Maybe he signed it after it was scanned?

Governor DeWine Signs Executive Order Ahead of Total Solar Eclipse

March 13, 2024

The Executive Order directs all State departments and agencies to be ready and prepared to ensure the health and safety of all Ohioans and visitors before, during, and after the eclipse. Ohio Emergency Management Agency (Ohio EMA) is coordinating the state’s preparation and response to the event, and all law enforcement agencies are prepared to respond with necessary personnel and resources to assist local law enforcement in contributing to the safety and security of Ohio residents and tourists.

[link to governor.ohio.gov (secure)]
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That actually makes sense. Gives everyone time to get back home.
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It is going to be CRAZY where I am. We are in the path of totality! I can just stay home and watch it in my back yard, thankfully. I'm hoping Mrs Spinal's work closes that day or she will never get home. I almost hope that there is a huge ass lake effect storm or something. Our housing market is hottest in the country right now, and we DON'T WANT ANY MORE PEOPLE. If there is some huge storm, it will chase them away from even thinking about moving there! ha ha ha
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Hey SC! It's going to be nuts here, too. We've got a state highway that goes straight through town and a couple of others that intersect. We won't be going anywhere for a few days.

I don't want a storm, though. It's been too long since I've seen one like this. The last one was back in the '60's. We all made those goofy things out of milk cartons. Surprisingly, they did work! Glad we have the glasses now, though.
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Ohio’s Emergency Order doesn’t expire until end of the day on April 10th. Doesn’t looks like the Secretary of State signed it. Maybe he signed it after it was scanned?

Governor DeWine Signs Executive Order Ahead of Total Solar Eclipse

March 13, 2024

The Executive Order directs all State departments and agencies to be ready and prepared to ensure the health and safety of all Ohioans and visitors before, during, and after the eclipse. Ohio Emergency Management Agency (Ohio EMA) is coordinating the state’s preparation and response to the event, and all law enforcement agencies are prepared to respond with necessary personnel and resources to assist local law enforcement in contributing to the safety and security of Ohio residents and tourists.

[link to governor.ohio.gov (secure)]
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That actually makes sense. Gives everyone time to get back home.
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It is going to be CRAZY where I am. We are in the path of totality! I can just stay home and watch it in my back yard, thankfully. I'm hoping Mrs Spinal's work closes that day or she will never get home. I almost hope that there is a huge ass lake effect storm or something. Our housing market is hottest in the country right now, and we DON'T WANT ANY MORE PEOPLE. If there is some huge storm, it will chase them away from even thinking about moving there! ha ha ha
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Hey SC! It's going to be nuts here, too. We've got a state highway that goes straight through town and a couple of others that intersect. We won't be going anywhere for a few days.

I don't want a storm, though. It's been too long since I've seen one like this. The last one was back in the '60's. We all made those goofy things out of milk cartons. Surprisingly, they did work! Glad we have the glasses now, though.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I ordered glasses and a filter thing for my phone camera. We have a 50-50 chance of it being sunny or cloudy first week of April, so we'll see. Usually when I have a gig scheduled for April, it gets cancelled because of and ice storm ...... 50-50 I say!
A whole new level of fuckery
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Yeah, the weather is a crap shoot in April. We ordered glasses last year for the kids, since we couldn't find them during the last eclipse. I wish we'd have ordered a camera filter, too. I'm hoping youngest did. He was looking into it, but was looking at 35mm filters.
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Just caught a glimpse of a commercial on our local tv news. They're planning all day coverage of the eclipse. I wasn't too worried about it, but they're still hyping the whole "get prepped" thing and now there are plans to activate the National Guard. I can see that they could be needed in the bigger cities, but all the .gov hype is kind of over kill right now.

What do they know that we don't?

I don't tend to look for conspiracy right off the bat, but this has me wondering.
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There's indeed something primal and awe-inspiring about eclipses that might resonate with us on a deeper, perhaps even genetic, level. The sudden darkening of the sky and the shifting of celestial bodies could have been seen as a disruption of the natural order by ancient humans, triggering fear, curiosity, or a sense of reverence.


The earliest known person who accurately predicted a solar eclipse was Thales of Miletus, a Greek philosopher, mathematician, and astronomer who lived from 624 BCE to 546 BCE. He managed to predict the total solar eclipse that occurred on May 28, 585 BCE, which passed right over the region where he lived.

The Greek historian Herodotus tells us that in the fourth century BCE, a border war near present day Turkey and the Halys River raged between the Lydians and the Medes. The war had gone on for over five years, when everything was brought to a halt by a sign from the skies. On May 28, 585 BCE, the sounds of fighting slowly came to a halt as the sky darkened and day turned to night. This was interpreted by both sides as a sign to end the war. In order to seal the agreement, Aryenes, daughter of the king of Lydia, was married to the son of the king of Medes. What the Lydians and Medes failed to realize was this sign from the skies was a total solar eclipse.

We can only hope a similar outcome will occur!

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I don't expect an outcome like that today. We all know about eclipses and won't be shocked to the core when it gets dark, like they did back then. Will it cause eq's or other disasters? I guess all we can do at this point, is wait and see.
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A new website by Elon Musk


[link to x.ai (secure)] It took a very long time to load as it includes an abstract visualization of a neural network..

It loads much faster in Chrome for some reason?

[link to x.ai (secure)]

The xAI team has certainly attracted some impressive talent from the AI and technology industries. Their blog highlights team members like Mustafa Suleyman, co-founder of DeepMind and former VP at Google, and Reid Hoffman, co-founder of LinkedIn and PayPal.


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I passed my exam this morning. I am now a certified CHST (Construction Health & Safety Technician)!
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Congrats!
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