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Thread: First Haiti now Cuba. Cuba on the verge of total collapse.

is this a sign of things to come? will more small countries collapse and then start the dominoes to fall?
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Just caught a glimpse of a commercial on our local tv news. They're planning all day coverage of the eclipse. I wasn't too worried about it, but they're still hyping the whole "get prepped" thing and now there are plans to activate the National Guard. I can see that they could be needed in the bigger cities, but all the .gov hype is kind of over kill right now.

What do they know that we don't?

I don't tend to look for conspiracy right off the bat, but this has me wondering.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


the prep warnings are way outside the view zone . heard it is clear to CA. way over the top.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Thread: First Haiti now Cuba. Cuba on the verge of total collapse.

is this a sign of things to come? will more small countries collapse and then start the dominoes to fall?
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Lebanon: A severe economic crisis, political instability, and social unrest have led many experts to predict a potential collapse of the Lebanese state.

South Sudan: Ongoing civil war, famine, and political instability have made South Sudan one of the most fragile states in the world.

Yemen: A brutal civil war, widespread famine, and economic collapse have put Yemen on the brink of a humanitarian catastrophe.

Afghanistan: The recent withdrawal of US and NATO forces, combined with ongoing conflict and economic instability, have raised concerns about the Afghan government's ability to maintain control.

Venezuela: Hyperinflation, political turmoil, and economic mismanagement have led to a severe crisis in Venezuela, causing millions to flee the country.
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Just caught a glimpse of a commercial on our local tv news. They're planning all day coverage of the eclipse. I wasn't too worried about it, but they're still hyping the whole "get prepped" thing and now there are plans to activate the National Guard. I can see that they could be needed in the bigger cities, but all the .gov hype is kind of over kill right now.

What do they know that we don't?

I don't tend to look for conspiracy right off the bat, but this has me wondering.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


the prep warnings are way outside the view zone . heard it is clear to CA. way over the top.
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Sadly, I will not see it. However, in Northern California when the eclipse reaches its max at 11:15 a.m. PDT, it will look like someone took a bite out of the sun with about two-thirds still visible.
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Just caught a glimpse of a commercial on our local tv news. They're planning all day coverage of the eclipse. I wasn't too worried about it, but they're still hyping the whole "get prepped" thing and now there are plans to activate the National Guard. I can see that they could be needed in the bigger cities, but all the .gov hype is kind of over kill right now.

What do they know that we don't?

I don't tend to look for conspiracy right off the bat, but this has me wondering.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I agree.
Seems overkill.
Like to point where a lot of people think it’s ridiculous.
Would be a perfect time to knock out the internet and/or cell service.
 Quoting: Guythu


But how would we even know? Idk about where you are, but I haven't been to impressed by our internet since we moved. Buckeye Broadband was pretty good, but we have Spectrum now. It's going to have problems, for sure.
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u wouldn't. just like power goes out due to storms,. squirrels<yes still happens>, car crash, etc. when SHTf goes full bore, everybody knows at the same time or nobody does. only way we'd know is when it doesn't get fixed for a week.

not sure what to make of the hype. but don't se them pulling any of the grid down, including the net. that sends everything into chaos and TPTB lose control over the ppl. kinda hard to giver orders, when u have no comm links.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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all this prep talk for an even that will last what 15 mins at best? and as others pointed out, weather will play a role. are all these pl going to drive from a cloudy area to find a good seat all at the same time? are 1,000's going to drive the path with the eclipse?

add in what local news mentioned the other day- ppl driving and then lights out. goes dark quick with no lights on and mayb wearing sunglasses. combined with gauckers could cause accidents.

but all that is localized short term situations. nothing that requires u to b stocked for 3 days. many of the areas do handle large crowds during the year. around here we have a NASCAR race every year. the local area becomes 1 of the largest cities in the state, population wise. other places have NFL games, races, fairs, colleges with graduations, special event weeks to draw in $$ for the local businesses, festivals, etc. it ain't like ppl from the EU will travel to bumbfluck towns in Iowa. they'd hit the metroes.

if it went dark for 3 whole days, the rhetoric is still over the top. if the push to pump more $$ into the economy with sales or is there something more going on??
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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all this prep talk for an even that will last what 15 mins at best? and as others pointed out, weather will play a role. are all these pl going to drive from a cloudy area to find a good seat all at the same time? are 1,000's going to drive the path with the eclipse?

add in what local news mentioned the other day- ppl driving and then lights out. goes dark quick with no lights on and mayb wearing sunglasses. combined with gauckers could cause accidents.

but all that is localized short term situations. nothing that requires u to b stocked for 3 days. many of the areas do handle large crowds during the year. around here we have a NASCAR race every year. the local area becomes 1 of the largest cities in the state, population wise. other places have NFL games, races, fairs, colleges with graduations, special event weeks to draw in $$ for the local businesses, festivals, etc. it ain't like ppl from the EU will travel to bumbfluck towns in Iowa. they'd hit the metroes.

if it went dark for 3 whole days, the rhetoric is still over the top. if the push to pump more $$ into the economy with sales or is there something more going on??
 Quoting: JAZZz50


You know, I get some of it. Like prescriptions. My dad was notorious for NOT telling anyone he needed a refill until he took the very last dose. Heaven help us all if they didn't have it in stock or he needed a new script.

The usual "blizzard" stuff makes sense, too. Bread and milk sandwiches stuff. I even know gas will be a problem in a lot of places. Lot's of really small towns with one, maybe two gas stations until the next town that is miles away. There's a whole lot of farmland between towns out here.

That said, the lakeshore area is used to large crowds. Even Amish country is used to it. It's bumper to bumper from late spring until almost Christmas and it's not unusual to wait in line for over an hour outside for your favorite restaurant. Even if your town isn't a tourist attraction, if your on the way, you know to leave early or hope for the best.
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all this prep talk for an even that will last what 15 mins at best? and as others pointed out, weather will play a role. are all these pl going to drive from a cloudy area to find a good seat all at the same time? are 1,000's going to drive the path with the eclipse?

add in what local news mentioned the other day- ppl driving and then lights out. goes dark quick with no lights on and mayb wearing sunglasses. combined with gauckers could cause accidents.

but all that is localized short term situations. nothing that requires u to b stocked for 3 days. many of the areas do handle large crowds during the year. around here we have a NASCAR race every year. the local area becomes 1 of the largest cities in the state, population wise. other places have NFL games, races, fairs, colleges with graduations, special event weeks to draw in $$ for the local businesses, festivals, etc. it ain't like ppl from the EU will travel to bumbfluck towns in Iowa. they'd hit the metroes.

if it went dark for 3 whole days, the rhetoric is still over the top. if the push to pump more $$ into the economy with sales or is there something more going on??
 Quoting: JAZZz50


You know, I get some of it. Like prescriptions. My dad was notorious for NOT telling anyone he needed a refill until he took the very last dose. Heaven help us all if they didn't have it in stock or he needed a new script.

The usual "blizzard" stuff makes sense, too. Bread and milk sandwiches stuff. I even know gas will be a problem in a lot of places. Lot's of really small towns with one, maybe two gas stations until the next town that is miles away. There's a whole lot of farmland between towns out here.

That said, the lakeshore area is used to large crowds. Even Amish country is used to it. It's bumper to bumper from late spring until almost Christmas and it's not unusual to wait in line for over an hour outside for your favorite restaurant. Even if your town isn't a tourist attraction, if your on the way, you know to leave early or hope for the best.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye

Anyone driving a long distance to Ohio to view the eclipse has the odds stacked against them. It’ll probably be gloomy/rainy until about 5 minutes after it has already occurred.
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I think you're going to be right. I've been looking for extended forecasts for the last few days, but it's still a bit early. Farmer's Almanac has it cloudy, I hear. Watch it be the one time they're right!
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I probably don't need to say this with this crowd, but please make sure you have plenty of water stored for situations like this:

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If you're on a well, you probably don't need as much stockpiled a long as you have power to run the well pump.

Remember: The formula to calculate how much water you need is one gallon per person per day. That includes drinking, cooking, and basic hygiene. Your basic water heater is going to contain approximately 50 gallons of clean, drinkable water. Toilet tanks will contain another gallon or two each, and are perfectly safe to drink.

Remember the Rule of 3s:
3 minutes without oxygen
3 hours in extreme cold without shelter
3 days without water
3 weeks without food
3 months without any shelter at all (24/7 exposure)

Those are the fatal limits for an average human being.
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what else happens with an eclipse?

Thread: 1811 EARTHQUAKES- 2000+ earthquakes after the SAME ECLIPSE!!!

will a volcano wake up too?
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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what else happens with an eclipse?

Thread: 1811 EARTHQUAKES- 2000+ earthquakes after the SAME ECLIPSE!!!

will a volcano wake up too?
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Bite your tongue, JAZZ!!!
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i see, u'd rather me make up some thing to explain the chaos before the chaos?

the moon has a hole in it. this will work like a magnifying glass and burn everything within a 50 mile wide path.

the eclipse adds a bit of gravity, pulling a CME to Earth just before the eclipse. after the eclipse this pulls a Tsunami to the East Coast.

temp around the world will drop by 50 degrees instantly. anyone outside will have hypothermia and die from shock.

the aliens are coming to beam everyone's cars up. this is why u need to b prepped. all those stranded ppl will need to b fed.

with the sun focuses on the moon, all that cheese will melt on us crackers. this is well known. why do u think ppl say "cheese" before taking a photograph to this day?

3 days of food is just enuf to fatten everyone up before the worms crawl out. ain't u seen Tremors? what did u think woke them up?

the path is wrong. it actually goes up the MISS to the GL. once the canyon is formed, the GL's will drain quickly. scientists continue to debate which Lake will b the opening. anyone from West PA to the Ozarks should build an ark.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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the #1 reason is- the magnetisphere will envelop the moon. turning it green like an oasis. usually it corrects itself but.... there is a chance we might b the moon and the moon will b the new earth.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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So basically, under your "made up" theory, we're all gonna die. Nah, don't like that one, either. chuckle
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the #1 reason is- the magnetisphere will envelop the moon. turning it green like an oasis. usually it corrects itself but.... there is a chance we might b the moon and the moon will b the new earth.
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That's not how orbital mechanics or magnetic fields work at all. There is absolutely zero chance of this happening. Normally I don't mind even the craziest of conspiracy theories, but the event you're describing is physically impossible.
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the #1 reason is- the magnetisphere will envelop the moon. turning it green like an oasis. usually it corrects itself but.... there is a chance we might b the moon and the moon will b the new earth.
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That's not how orbital mechanics or magnetic fields work at all. There is absolutely zero chance of this happening. Normally I don't mind even the craziest of conspiracy theories, but the event you're describing is physically impossible.
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unlike everything else JAZZ has ever said that was logical and real.
R U new here?

lol
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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not sure how many of u have kept up with the other covid threads. SMAN has been charting the excess death % for a cpl yrs now. it is week by week.

the % for new babies <1 yr olds is way high. the % for 15-44 yr olds, working aged plus upper education age is increasing. overall the chart points to this being a bad year. it also shows that more ppl died or were disabled than governs. have reported.

yes, SMAN's charts are for the UK, but there have been reports for other countries now and then that the #'s are being mirrored closely in other countries.


Thread: Excess Deaths Latest England/Wales UNADJUSTED RAW Government Death Data LATEST: Easter being reported - low #'s, due to holiday.

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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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the #1 reason is- the magnetisphere will envelop the moon. turning it green like an oasis. usually it corrects itself but.... there is a chance we might b the moon and the moon will b the new earth.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


That's not how orbital mechanics or magnetic fields work at all. There is absolutely zero chance of this happening. Normally I don't mind even the craziest of conspiracy theories, but the event you're describing is physically impossible.
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unlike everything else JAZZ has ever said that was logical and real.
R U new here?

lol
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this 1 for CC. pl can't even die in peace no more.

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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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could the prepping for eclipse b due to ppl being dumb and looking at it? if they go blind, that would cause a major hoard of ppl that are lost , confused, and can't drive.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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let's look at the claims that lead to the SE prepping.

#1> traffic jam from NY State to TX. even if this did happen, does it warrant the prep level? no. those ppl are stuck on the highway not buying up all the bread, milk, and canned food 2 the local grocery store.

#2> 3.5 million viewers. umm across what 25 states. they aren't all going to the same town. as i said before, most places do handle a surge in population during an average year.

#3> cell phone outage due to over use. so more ppl are going to text pics than call their mothers on Mother's Day? with that many votes, will the Moon b crowned the next President too? even if the cell use delays call by 30 mins, this is not a catastrophe.

4> accidents due to gaukers or ppl stopping to look on hwys. even if this did happen, it would b like the 1st snowstorm of the winter in Denver. doubt all the extra TP will help solve anything here.

the warning levels are on par to suggest it will b the Purge. but last 3 days to a week.

BTW, CT's that they will turn the grid off or pull some other shenanigans are unfounded. TPTB do not warn u of such things. they want u un-prepared when that chaos comes.

it is either BS hype or they believe something else might happen. with the MIA of some elites and Royals, the "IT" would have to b on a global scale. that leaves us with EQ's, volcanoes, CME, tsunamis, or something yet unknown.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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i see, u'd rather me make up some thing to explain the chaos before the chaos?

the moon has a hole in it. this will work like a magnifying glass and burn everything within a 50 mile wide path.

the eclipse adds a bit of gravity, pulling a CME to Earth just before the eclipse. after the eclipse this pulls a Tsunami to the East Coast.

temp around the world will drop by 50 degrees instantly. anyone outside will have hypothermia and die from shock.

the aliens are coming to beam everyone's cars up. this is why u need to b prepped. all those stranded ppl will need to b fed.

with the sun focuses on the moon, all that cheese will melt on us crackers. this is well known. why do u think ppl say "cheese" before taking a photograph to this day?

3 days of food is just enuf to fatten everyone up before the worms crawl out. ain't u seen Tremors? what did u think woke them up?

the path is wrong. it actually goes up the MISS to the GL. once the canyon is formed, the GL's will drain quickly. scientists continue to debate which Lake will b the opening. anyone from West PA to the Ozarks should build an ark.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


it's goina cause the Day After to b real.

it will sunburn all those exposed so badly we won't b able to tell immigrants from normal Americans no longer.

it'll glitch the chips turning cows, horses, and other chipped animals into Zombies. did u chip your pet? don't go to sleep.

u think my ideas are bad? old saying "reality is stranger than fiction". smoke on that.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Lago...

So sorry you can't get your EV Bentley

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Gasoline is one of the greatest achievements of mankind

Similar to the wheel

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all this prep talk for an even that will last what 15 mins at best? and as others pointed out, weather will play a role. are all these pl going to drive from a cloudy area to find a good seat all at the same time? are 1,000's going to drive the path with the eclipse?

add in what local news mentioned the other day- ppl driving and then lights out. goes dark quick with no lights on and mayb wearing sunglasses. combined with gauckers could cause accidents.

but all that is localized short term situations. nothing that requires u to b stocked for 3 days. many of the areas do handle large crowds during the year. around here we have a NASCAR race every year. the local area becomes 1 of the largest cities in the state, population wise. other places have NFL games, races, fairs, colleges with graduations, special event weeks to draw in $$ for the local businesses, festivals, etc. it ain't like ppl from the EU will travel to bumbfluck towns in Iowa. they'd hit the metroes.

if it went dark for 3 whole days, the rhetoric is still over the top. if the push to pump more $$ into the economy with sales or is there something more going on??
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It's possible that the push to prepare for the solar eclipse is simply a way to boost sales and stimulate the economy, but it's also worth considering that it could be an opportunity for communities to come together and experience something unique and awe-inspiring
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Gasoline is one of the greatest achievements of mankind

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As a fuel source, it has enabled the widespread use of cars, trucks, and other vehicles, which in turn has revolutionized transportation and commerce.
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Lago...

So sorry you can't get your EV Bentley

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 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon


"Bentley is also pushing back its goal to become entirely electric by the end of the decade. According to the new agenda, the ultra-luxury British brand wants to completely get rid of gasoline cars by 2033. The three-year delay will allow the company to invest more in plug-in hybrids to provide a smoother transition to an EV-only lineup early into the next decade."



Behind the wheel. 26.00 onwards. Very happy with my old ICE Bentley! One year old grandson loves it. Chortles when I put my foot down. Every road trip is an "event" (will we make it home? - seriously, it has never left me stranded in over 20 years)! Mrs Lago has the 40+ mpg plug-in. 2033? Octogenarian driving a 40+ year old ICE Bentley? Watch out! However, I suspect the Bentley will outlast me.

Last Edited by Lago on 03/21/2024 02:14 AM
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