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My friends, the crisis in Ukraine is growing and we're getting worried. Ukraine is reclaiming Russian-occupied territory at a staggering rate. Russia is now fighting a defensive war and their defensive lines are collapsing.

While this is great for Ukraine, and I seriously applaud them for it, their success is actually bringing them closer to the possibility of Russia resorting to nuclear weapons. And the problem is we think Putin might actually do it. I won't go into all the reasons behind that assessment, but several weeks ago we held kind of a tabletop discussion of the events that would have to occur to force Putin to either accept defeat or go nuclear. Almost all of the events we discussed have now occurred or are very likely to occur soon. Most of us agree that Putin will not just tuck his tail between his legs, recall his troops, and slink back across the border to Russia.

I think we are closer to the combat use of nuclear weapons now than we have been since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The good news is that it won't go global exchange; at least, not immediately. It will start with one or two nuclear detonations on Ukrainian soil. They will be airbursts, which means minimal radioactive fallout. But what happens after that is going to be largely dependent on how the rest of the world reacts, especially the nuclear powers. If everyone keeps a cool head and they don't respond with a nuclear retaliatory strike, then there is a good chance it will stop there.

Admittedly, that is best-case scenario, but even then there are going to be immediate global consequences. The stock markets will crash worse than they did on 9/11. People will panic and rush to purchase supplies. Food, water, and fuel are all going to be hit hard and fast. I know most of us are already prepared for this, but whatever you do, do NOT allow yourself to get caught in a panic-buying mob. I guarantee you there will be violent outbreaks. Stay home.

There are still some things that can happen to prevent this, so there is still hope. But all of those things are beyond anyone's control and are in the hands of Russian citizens and military officers.

More info as it becomes relevant.
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My friends, the crisis in Ukraine is growing and we're getting worried. Ukraine is reclaiming Russian-occupied territory at a staggering rate. Russia is now fighting a defensive war and their defensive lines are collapsing.

While this is great for Ukraine, and I seriously applaud them for it, their success is actually bringing them closer to the possibility of Russia resorting to nuclear weapons. And the problem is we think Putin might actually do it. I won't go into all the reasons behind that assessment, but several weeks ago we held kind of a tabletop discussion of the events that would have to occur to force Putin to either accept defeat or go nuclear. Almost all of the events we discussed have now occurred or are very likely to occur soon. Most of us agree that Putin will not just tuck his tail between his legs, recall his troops, and slink back across the border to Russia.

I think we are closer to the combat use of nuclear weapons now than we have been since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The good news is that it won't go global exchange; at least, not immediately. It will start with one or two nuclear detonations on Ukrainian soil. They will be airbursts, which means minimal radioactive fallout. But what happens after that is going to be largely dependent on how the rest of the world reacts, especially the nuclear powers. If everyone keeps a cool head and they don't respond with a nuclear retaliatory strike, then there is a good chance it will stop there.

Admittedly, that is best-case scenario, but even then there are going to be immediate global consequences. The stock markets will crash worse than they did on 9/11. People will panic and rush to purchase supplies. Food, water, and fuel are all going to be hit hard and fast. I know most of us are already prepared for this, but whatever you do, do NOT allow yourself to get caught in a panic-buying mob. I guarantee you there will be violent outbreaks. Stay home.

There are still some things that can happen to prevent this, so there is still hope. But all of those things are beyond anyone's control and are in the hands of Russian citizens and military officers.

More info as it becomes relevant.
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Thanks Riff-Raff for your insight, thanks.
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My friends, the crisis in Ukraine is growing and we're getting worried. Ukraine is reclaiming Russian-occupied territory at a staggering rate. Russia is now fighting a defensive war and their defensive lines are collapsing.

While this is great for Ukraine, and I seriously applaud them for it, their success is actually bringing them closer to the possibility of Russia resorting to nuclear weapons. And the problem is we think Putin might actually do it. I won't go into all the reasons behind that assessment, but several weeks ago we held kind of a tabletop discussion of the events that would have to occur to force Putin to either accept defeat or go nuclear. Almost all of the events we discussed have now occurred or are very likely to occur soon. Most of us agree that Putin will not just tuck his tail between his legs, recall his troops, and slink back across the border to Russia.

I think we are closer to the combat use of nuclear weapons now than we have been since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The good news is that it won't go global exchange; at least, not immediately. It will start with one or two nuclear detonations on Ukrainian soil. They will be airbursts, which means minimal radioactive fallout. But what happens after that is going to be largely dependent on how the rest of the world reacts, especially the nuclear powers. If everyone keeps a cool head and they don't respond with a nuclear retaliatory strike, then there is a good chance it will stop there.

Admittedly, that is best-case scenario, but even then there are going to be immediate global consequences. The stock markets will crash worse than they did on 9/11. People will panic and rush to purchase supplies. Food, water, and fuel are all going to be hit hard and fast. I know most of us are already prepared for this, but whatever you do, do NOT allow yourself to get caught in a panic-buying mob. I guarantee you there will be violent outbreaks. Stay home.

There are still some things that can happen to prevent this, so there is still hope. But all of those things are beyond anyone's control and are in the hands of Russian citizens and military officers.

More info as it becomes relevant.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff



Battlefield nuclear detonations or Russian leadership change.

It's going to be one or the other...

Sira2
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My friends, the crisis in Ukraine is growing and we're getting worried. Ukraine is reclaiming Russian-occupied territory at a staggering rate. Russia is now fighting a defensive war and their defensive lines are collapsing.

While this is great for Ukraine, and I seriously applaud them for it, their success is actually bringing them closer to the possibility of Russia resorting to nuclear weapons. And the problem is we think Putin might actually do it. I won't go into all the reasons behind that assessment, but several weeks ago we held kind of a tabletop discussion of the events that would have to occur to force Putin to either accept defeat or go nuclear. Almost all of the events we discussed have now occurred or are very likely to occur soon. Most of us agree that Putin will not just tuck his tail between his legs, recall his troops, and slink back across the border to Russia.

I think we are closer to the combat use of nuclear weapons now than we have been since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The good news is that it won't go global exchange; at least, not immediately. It will start with one or two nuclear detonations on Ukrainian soil. They will be airbursts, which means minimal radioactive fallout. But what happens after that is going to be largely dependent on how the rest of the world reacts, especially the nuclear powers. If everyone keeps a cool head and they don't respond with a nuclear retaliatory strike, then there is a good chance it will stop there.

Admittedly, that is best-case scenario, but even then there are going to be immediate global consequences. The stock markets will crash worse than they did on 9/11. People will panic and rush to purchase supplies. Food, water, and fuel are all going to be hit hard and fast. I know most of us are already prepared for this, but whatever you do, do NOT allow yourself to get caught in a panic-buying mob. I guarantee you there will be violent outbreaks. Stay home.

There are still some things that can happen to prevent this, so there is still hope. But all of those things are beyond anyone's control and are in the hands of Russian citizens and military officers.

More info as it becomes relevant.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff



Battlefield nuclear detonations or Russian leadership change.

It's going to be one or the other...

Sira2
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Gent, how is Lizz Truss increasing UK borrowing being greeted over there? Jonathan Pie's opinion:


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My friends, the crisis in Ukraine is growing and we're getting worried. Ukraine is reclaiming Russian-occupied territory at a staggering rate. Russia is now fighting a defensive war and their defensive lines are collapsing.

While this is great for Ukraine, and I seriously applaud them for it, their success is actually bringing them closer to the possibility of Russia resorting to nuclear weapons. And the problem is we think Putin might actually do it. I won't go into all the reasons behind that assessment, but several weeks ago we held kind of a tabletop discussion of the events that would have to occur to force Putin to either accept defeat or go nuclear. Almost all of the events we discussed have now occurred or are very likely to occur soon. Most of us agree that Putin will not just tuck his tail between his legs, recall his troops, and slink back across the border to Russia.

I think we are closer to the combat use of nuclear weapons now than we have been since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The good news is that it won't go global exchange; at least, not immediately. It will start with one or two nuclear detonations on Ukrainian soil. They will be airbursts, which means minimal radioactive fallout. But what happens after that is going to be largely dependent on how the rest of the world reacts, especially the nuclear powers. If everyone keeps a cool head and they don't respond with a nuclear retaliatory strike, then there is a good chance it will stop there.

Admittedly, that is best-case scenario, but even then there are going to be immediate global consequences. The stock markets will crash worse than they did on 9/11. People will panic and rush to purchase supplies. Food, water, and fuel are all going to be hit hard and fast. I know most of us are already prepared for this, but whatever you do, do NOT allow yourself to get caught in a panic-buying mob. I guarantee you there will be violent outbreaks. Stay home.

There are still some things that can happen to prevent this, so there is still hope. But all of those things are beyond anyone's control and are in the hands of Russian citizens and military officers.

More info as it becomes relevant.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


I'm planting a lot of potatoes, beets, carrots and radishes as we take out the summer garden (our ground does not freeze, so root crops go all winter).

Good to have preps in plain sight as most people cannot tell a tater plant from anything else.

Best case scenario: I have lots of fresh ground veggies to share; worst case: needed food to lengthen the time before we have to break into the intermediate and long term preps.

You are right about avoiding the panic. We were fully prepped, but I went out on TP panic day just to observe behaviors. A nuke panic will be different -- people will be prepared to kill over a shriveled turnip.

The sad thing is, based on my TP panic observations, is that most people have zero idea how to cook anything not contained in a box, or from the freezer section. I actually picked up some nice produce that day that no one was interested in. Someone may decide to steal some of your dried beans, but they will not have the first idea how to prepare them.

Another interesting thing during the TP panic time: Decided to add a few bags of Morton softener salt to the preps. I keep this in case electricity goes out - plan to fully cook all my frozen meat, and salt pack in Homer buckets with lids. There was very little softener salt to be found. Asked what was up, and the Home Depot guy said the hunters had made a run on it. Obviously, I am not the only one who knows how to salt pack meat.
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My friends, the crisis in Ukraine is growing and we're getting worried. Ukraine is reclaiming Russian-occupied territory at a staggering rate. Russia is now fighting a defensive war and their defensive lines are collapsing.

While this is great for Ukraine, and I seriously applaud them for it, their success is actually bringing them closer to the possibility of Russia resorting to nuclear weapons. And the problem is we think Putin might actually do it. I won't go into all the reasons behind that assessment, but several weeks ago we held kind of a tabletop discussion of the events that would have to occur to force Putin to either accept defeat or go nuclear. Almost all of the events we discussed have now occurred or are very likely to occur soon. Most of us agree that Putin will not just tuck his tail between his legs, recall his troops, and slink back across the border to Russia.

I think we are closer to the combat use of nuclear weapons now than we have been since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The good news is that it won't go global exchange; at least, not immediately. It will start with one or two nuclear detonations on Ukrainian soil. They will be airbursts, which means minimal radioactive fallout. But what happens after that is going to be largely dependent on how the rest of the world reacts, especially the nuclear powers. If everyone keeps a cool head and they don't respond with a nuclear retaliatory strike, then there is a good chance it will stop there.

Admittedly, that is best-case scenario, but even then there are going to be immediate global consequences. The stock markets will crash worse than they did on 9/11. People will panic and rush to purchase supplies. Food, water, and fuel are all going to be hit hard and fast. I know most of us are already prepared for this, but whatever you do, do NOT allow yourself to get caught in a panic-buying mob. I guarantee you there will be violent outbreaks. Stay home.

There are still some things that can happen to prevent this, so there is still hope. But all of those things are beyond anyone's control and are in the hands of Russian citizens and military officers.

More info as it becomes relevant.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff



Battlefield nuclear detonations or Russian leadership change.

It's going to be one or the other...

Sira2
 Quoting: The Gent


It is my understanding that the dude right behind Putin is even more hard lined. Like replacing a demon with a devil.
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My friends, the crisis in Ukraine is growing and we're getting worried. Ukraine is reclaiming Russian-occupied territory at a staggering rate. Russia is now fighting a defensive war and their defensive lines are collapsing.

While this is great for Ukraine, and I seriously applaud them for it, their success is actually bringing them closer to the possibility of Russia resorting to nuclear weapons. And the problem is we think Putin might actually do it. I won't go into all the reasons behind that assessment, but several weeks ago we held kind of a tabletop discussion of the events that would have to occur to force Putin to either accept defeat or go nuclear. Almost all of the events we discussed have now occurred or are very likely to occur soon. Most of us agree that Putin will not just tuck his tail between his legs, recall his troops, and slink back across the border to Russia.

I think we are closer to the combat use of nuclear weapons now than we have been since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The good news is that it won't go global exchange; at least, not immediately. It will start with one or two nuclear detonations on Ukrainian soil. They will be airbursts, which means minimal radioactive fallout. But what happens after that is going to be largely dependent on how the rest of the world reacts, especially the nuclear powers. If everyone keeps a cool head and they don't respond with a nuclear retaliatory strike, then there is a good chance it will stop there.

Admittedly, that is best-case scenario, but even then there are going to be immediate global consequences. The stock markets will crash worse than they did on 9/11. People will panic and rush to purchase supplies. Food, water, and fuel are all going to be hit hard and fast. I know most of us are already prepared for this, but whatever you do, do NOT allow yourself to get caught in a panic-buying mob. I guarantee you there will be violent outbreaks. Stay home.

There are still some things that can happen to prevent this, so there is still hope. But all of those things are beyond anyone's control and are in the hands of Russian citizens and military officers.

More info as it becomes relevant.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff



Battlefield nuclear detonations or Russian leadership change.

It's going to be one or the other...

Sira2
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It is my understanding that the dude right behind Putin is even more hard lined. Like replacing a demon with a devil.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Nikolai Patrushev. Russian security and intelligence and very, very close to President Putin. He is an extremely paranoid conspiracy theorist, and believes the EU and US want to take control of Russia to pillage its natural resources for the West.

He makes Putin look like Gorbachev.
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What happened to the Klutch? How did it become reduced to a mere Crowd?
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Scroll back a page or so.
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We're working on this right now, and we don't like the possible implications:

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We're working on this right now, and we don't like the possible implications:

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Not looking so good right now, is it?

Might be why the universe doesn't seem to want us to buy a house right now. People are just SO unbelievable! If they want to sell a house "as is", they just need to say that.

Staying quiet right now, for the most part. Don't want to be "that" person.

Oh! I did find out a piece of info for anyone looking to replace their furnace/ac. The prices are going up exponentially after Jan. 1 due to new regulations coming.

My son, the heating/air guy, told me that today when we were discussing the latest attempt to buy a house.
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Not sure what makes them think they can start back up after 6 weeks.

JUST IN - HAK, one of the largest vegetable brands in Northern Europe, to shut down production for six weeks due to high energy costs.

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Some strong rhetoric.

NEW - Russia is facing "the 4th NATO Reich," says Gennady Zyuganov, the General Secretary of the Communist Party.

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We're working on this right now, and we don't like the possible implications:

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Not looking so good right now, is it?

Might be why the universe doesn't seem to want us to buy a house right now. People are just SO unbelievable! If they want to sell a house "as is", they just need to say that.

Staying quiet right now, for the most part. Don't want to be "that" person.

Oh! I did find out a piece of info for anyone looking to replace their furnace/ac. The prices are going up exponentially after Jan. 1 due to new regulations coming.

My son, the heating/air guy, told me that today when we were discussing the latest attempt to buy a house.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


We just got our furnace replaced right before we bought the house. The AC is older, but it's a freaking tank. Previous owner put in a 4-ton unit where a 1-ton would have been sufficient.
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I’ve seen some pretty crazy clips of Biden.
But this one..this one is really concerning.

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I really expect nothing less.

JUST IN: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Monday it had ended its COVID-19 country travel health notices as fewer countries reported enough data to arrive at accurate assessments.

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I really expect nothing less.

JUST IN: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Monday it had ended its COVID-19 country travel health notices as fewer countries reported enough data to arrive at accurate assessments.

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wtfdidcattheend

so they admit they don't know if it is safe but F it open up borders and fly around? if only they had admitted that with the vax. "we don't know, but here take this shot and hope."
JAZZZ50

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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


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My friends, the crisis in Ukraine is growing and we're getting worried. Ukraine is reclaiming Russian-occupied territory at a staggering rate. Russia is now fighting a defensive war and their defensive lines are collapsing.

While this is great for Ukraine, and I seriously applaud them for it, their success is actually bringing them closer to the possibility of Russia resorting to nuclear weapons. And the problem is we think Putin might actually do it. I won't go into all the reasons behind that assessment, but several weeks ago we held kind of a tabletop discussion of the events that would have to occur to force Putin to either accept defeat or go nuclear. Almost all of the events we discussed have now occurred or are very likely to occur soon. Most of us agree that Putin will not just tuck his tail between his legs, recall his troops, and slink back across the border to Russia.

I think we are closer to the combat use of nuclear weapons now than we have been since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The good news is that it won't go global exchange; at least, not immediately. It will start with one or two nuclear detonations on Ukrainian soil. They will be airbursts, which means minimal radioactive fallout. But what happens after that is going to be largely dependent on how the rest of the world reacts, especially the nuclear powers. If everyone keeps a cool head and they don't respond with a nuclear retaliatory strike, then there is a good chance it will stop there.

Admittedly, that is best-case scenario, but even then there are going to be immediate global consequences. The stock markets will crash worse than they did on 9/11. People will panic and rush to purchase supplies. Food, water, and fuel are all going to be hit hard and fast. I know most of us are already prepared for this, but whatever you do, do NOT allow yourself to get caught in a panic-buying mob. I guarantee you there will be violent outbreaks. Stay home.

There are still some things that can happen to prevent this, so there is still hope. But all of those things are beyond anyone's control and are in the hands of Russian citizens and military officers.

More info as it becomes relevant.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff



Battlefield nuclear detonations or Russian leadership change.

It's going to be one or the other...

Sira2
 Quoting: The Gent


It is my understanding that the dude right behind Putin is even more hard lined. Like replacing a demon with a devil.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Nikolai Patrushev. Russian security and intelligence and very, very close to President Putin. He is an extremely paranoid conspiracy theorist, and believes the EU and US want to take control of Russia to pillage its natural resources for the West.

He makes Putin look like Gorbachev.
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I'll change my last sentence; It's going to be one and the other...

Largo, no-one except the media and lefties seem to care about the UK income tax changes. For the most part, the average Brit's income will change very little.

Liz Truss's Government are not very popular, recent YouGov polls indicate a huge swing to the Labour Party and if a general election were to be called today, we would be looking at a landslide Labour Party victory.

A left wing Government running the Country, God help us...

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There is still a lot more melt to go for everyone.

WATCH: Outraged bank customers, at least two of whom were armed, stormed four commercial banks across Lebanon on Tuesday, protesting withdrawal limits imposed across the country amid a financial meltdown.

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Too funny!
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Since Clever Creator's thread has been taken over by AC keyboard warriors who have no function in life other than trolling web forums, creating this thread for our continuing discussion on world events:

- Covid
- Russia/Ukraine
- China/Taiwan
- US civil unrest

Or whatever else comes our way.

Everyone with a registered account is welcome here. AC's are banned from posting. I have only one rule: Treat others with respect even if you disagree with their position. This is discussion, not argument. I don't care who you voted for in the last election and I don't care who you're voting for in the next one. Keep it civil.

For reference:
Original Covid-19 thread by Dangerous Times:
Thread: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315

Clever Creator's Covid-19 thread (now locked):
Thread: Sars Cov 2 … the grinder continues to eat away at resources and humanity.
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great post, OP! will try to drop by here more often!
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Get ready...things are getting hairy out there



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Apart from parts of the county's northwest, "the rest of the country is without power," an official says.
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This is an actual US Supreme Court Brief in support of parody...Got to be up there with the best ever!


"The Onion is the world’s leading news publication,
offering highly acclaimed, universally revered coverage of breaking national, international, and local news
events. Rising from its humble beginnings as a print
newspaper in 1756, The Onion now enjoys a daily readership of 4.3 trillion and has grown into the single most
powerful and influential organization in human history."


[link to www.supremecourt.gov (secure)]

"The Onion intends to continue its socially valuable
role bringing the disinfectant of sunlight into the halls
of power. See Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1, 67 (1976)
(quoting Louis D. Brandeis, Other People’s Money and
How the Bankers Use It 62 (National Home Library
Foundation ed. 1933)). And it would vastly prefer that
sunlight not to be measured out to its writers in 15-
minute increments in an exercise yard."



I. Parody Functions By Tricking People Into
Thinking That It Is Real ........................... 4

II. Because Parody Mimics “The Real Thing,”
It Has The Unique Capacity To Critique
The Real Thing .......................................... 8

III. A Reasonable Reader Does Not Need A
Disclaimer To Know That Parody Is
Parody ........................................................ 10

IV. It Should Be Obvious That Parodists
Cannot Be Prosecuted For Telling A Joke
With A Straight Face ................................. 15

CONCLUSION ..................................................... 18

Anyone here read Jonathan Swifts "A modest proposal" written in 1729?

[link to www.gutenberg.org (secure)]


"I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed, is, at a year old, a most delicious nourishing and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricasee, or a ragoust."

Just to be clear, this was not a close call on the
facts: Mr. Novak’s spoof Facebook posts advertised that
the Parma Police Department was hosting a “pedophile
reform event” in which successful participants could be
removed from the sex offender registry and become
honorary members of the department after completing
puzzles and quizzes; that the department had discovered an experimental technique for abortions and
would be providing them to teens for free in a police
van; that the department was soliciting job applicants
but that minorities were “strongly encourag[ed]” not to
apply; and that the department was banning city residents from feeding homeless people in “an attempt to
have the homeless population eventually leave our
City due to starvation."


The Onions motto. "Tu stultus es"

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Since Clever Creator's thread has been taken over by AC keyboard warriors who have no function in life other than trolling web forums, creating this thread for our continuing discussion on world events:

- Covid
- Russia/Ukraine
- China/Taiwan
- US civil unrest

Or whatever else comes our way.

Everyone with a registered account is welcome here. AC's are banned from posting. I have only one rule: Treat others with respect even if you disagree with their position. This is discussion, not argument. I don't care who you voted for in the last election and I don't care who you're voting for in the next one. Keep it civil.

For reference:
Original Covid-19 thread by Dangerous Times:
Thread: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315

Clever Creator's Covid-19 thread (now locked):
Thread: Sars Cov 2 … the grinder continues to eat away at resources and humanity.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


great post, OP! will try to drop by here more often!
 Quoting: Digital mix guy


Good to see you! You're welcome anytime. Just don't make direct eye contact with Jazz. He's been known to bite on occasion.

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Well guys, I'm giving up looking for a house. A tent it is.

I can't get over the greed of some people, but the owners of the last house are now stuck with what they asked for. I refuse to get into a bidding war over an old house that's just a normal house for a bunch of damn Californian's.

Sorry, Lago. You're not included in my rant.

I'll only mention it here AFTER we've closed and moved to somewhere.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Unfortunately, you are not wrong. I have seen multi-million dollar real estate deals cancelled over a refusal to repair a dishwasher. Reminds me of a George Carlin sketch... CEO in Multi-billion dollar company- "He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!”

In England we had a phrase "penny wise, but pound foolish"

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Well guys, I'm giving up looking for a house. A tent it is.

I can't get over the greed of some people, but the owners of the last house are now stuck with what they asked for. I refuse to get into a bidding war over an old house that's just a normal house for a bunch of damn Californian's.

Sorry, Lago. You're not included in my rant.

I'll only mention it here AFTER we've closed and moved to somewhere.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


It's G-ds' way of telling you that you aren't supposed to be there.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


I've thought of that, but don't feel drawn to any other location. It may just be timing. Idk.

The owners dumped our bid only because we didn't want an escalation clause. Evidently, there are 9 sibs in the group. We almost got the bid, but some have been in Cali too long and have no clue that our market is cooling down. It hasn't gone contingent yet, either. Like I said before, they'll have to live with their decisions. We'll just keep looking.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye

I believe you were correct: Generally speaking, escalation clauses are a bad idea...

Buyers and sellers lose their chances of negotiating once an escalation clause is accepted. Since a clause reveals the maximum amount a buyer is willing to pay, the seller will know their highest offer right away. This eliminates the opportunity to negotiate. The “cap” may remove the bargaining power for the buyer. Instead, a seller could reject the escalation clause and ask for the highest offer.

Sellers who accept escalation clauses can no longer issue counteroffers to other buyers. Because buyers might not be putting in their highest offer with an escalation clause, sellers may reject it right away.

Escalation clauses can cause issues with appraisals if their offer exceeds the home’s appraisal value. Lenders are particular about how much they will lend for a home. Lenders require an appraisal to determine the home's market value and won't lend above this amount. An escalation clause can lead to a situation in which the price offered goes too high and exceeds the home price it was appraised at. A buyer may win the bidding war to discover later the lender won't give them enough funds to pay for the home. In this case, the buyer will have to make up the difference in cash if they still wish to purchase the home.
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Riff...

Who blew the pipelines?

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God grant safety to those in the path of Ian...amen

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"Unmentioned amid the incendiary speculation is the explosive condition of the Baltic seabed"...


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