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Texan Buckeye
User ID: 82234537 United States 09/18/2022 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Forget all the CT about the royal family. I've been seeing the enormous numbers of people from all over the world lining up to pay their respects. I remember Diana's funeral with similar crowds, if not quite as large, as well as the Queen Mother and Princess Margaret. My thought has been, how many of us, if any, would have so many people line up for our funerals? I've played for funerals that had to set up cc tv because of the amount of people attending, but I've also been to a few when only a handful were able to attend pre-covid. I was a bit surprised at how sad I felt when I heard the news. I don't think we will ever see another like her in our lifetime. |
SpinalCracker
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Guythu
User ID: 81024907 United States 09/18/2022 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Biden Warns Putin "Don't Change The Face Of War" With Nuclear Or Chemical Weapons In Ukraine In a Sunday "60 Minutes" interview to air in full Sunday night, President Joe Biden issued a warning for Russian President Vladimir Putin to not "change the face of war" by employing either tactical nuclear or chemical weapons against Ukraine. "Don’t. Don’t. Don’t. You will change the face of war unlike anything since World War II," Biden said [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] |
Guythu
User ID: 81024907 United States 09/18/2022 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be hell to pay. JUST IN - Biden: "The pandemic is over." [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 09/18/2022 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sitting on a flight right now. Maybe 2% of people in masks, and 2 of them are us!! Fall is going to be a shitshow, you guys! Quoting: SpinalCracker did u open the door for fresh air? u did pack a parachute, right? only way i'm flying is as a human cannon ball with a jet pack. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 09/18/2022 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Biden Warns Putin "Don't Change The Face Of War" With Nuclear Or Chemical Weapons In Ukraine Quoting: Guythu In a Sunday "60 Minutes" interview to air in full Sunday night, President Joe Biden issued a warning for Russian President Vladimir Putin to not "change the face of war" by employing either tactical nuclear or chemical weapons against Ukraine. "Don’t. Don’t. Don’t. You will change the face of war unlike anything since World War II," Biden said [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] things a monkey would say while eating a banana,Alex. considering we already did that with the Abomb. we special? JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 09/18/2022 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be hell to pay. Quoting: Guythu JUST IN - Biden: "The pandemic is over." [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] this rhymes with " i did not have sex with that woman"...... been here before ain't we? JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
Riff-Raff
(OP) DEFCON 4 User ID: 78505179 United States 09/19/2022 02:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm screaming inside my head, guys. We had to jump through hoops to get the paperwork done last Friday and they were supposed to sign off yesterday afternoon. One of the sellers STILL hasn't signed! Supposedly, they don't have email. Who doesn't have email!?! If they have a phone, they have email! Quoting: Texan Buckeye There was another showing, again supposedly, after ours on Friday. What do y'all think? Are they waiting for a better bid? Or, do they really NOT have an email? Trying to not drive myself crazy, after keeping Mr. TB calm yesterday, but having a hard time today. Am I being paranoid? On our side, we bid the asking price and are paying most of the closing costs plus a structural inspection (required by state law). My mother doesn't have an e-mail. The older the person, the more likely it is that the don't have an e-mail. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Riff-Raff
(OP) DEFCON 4 User ID: 78505179 United States 09/19/2022 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been watching some of the stream from GB for the Queen's funeral. If I had more time I'd start a thread, but I'm wondering. Quoting: Texan Buckeye Forget all the CT about the royal family. I've been seeing the enormous numbers of people from all over the world lining up to pay their respects. I remember Diana's funeral with similar crowds, if not quite as large, as well as the Queen Mother and Princess Margaret. My thought has been, how many of us, if any, would have so many people line up for our funerals? I've played for funerals that had to set up cc tv because of the amount of people attending, but I've also been to a few when only a handful were able to attend pre-covid. I was a bit surprised at how sad I felt when I heard the news. I don't think we will ever see another like her in our lifetime. I watched Elton John perform Candle in the Wind at Diana's funeral on TV live. Had to get up at some stupidly early hour to do it, but it was worth it. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Riff-Raff
(OP) DEFCON 4 User ID: 78505179 United States 09/19/2022 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Biden Warns Putin "Don't Change The Face Of War" With Nuclear Or Chemical Weapons In Ukraine Quoting: Guythu In a Sunday "60 Minutes" interview to air in full Sunday night, President Joe Biden issued a warning for Russian President Vladimir Putin to not "change the face of war" by employing either tactical nuclear or chemical weapons against Ukraine. "Don’t. Don’t. Don’t. You will change the face of war unlike anything since World War II," Biden said [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Coming from the same country that changed the face of war at the end of World War II. Hypocrisy at its finest. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Riff-Raff
(OP) DEFCON 4 User ID: 78505179 United States 09/19/2022 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be hell to pay. Quoting: Guythu JUST IN - Biden: "The pandemic is over." [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] Until midterms elections are through, anyway. I'll bet a full paycheck that Biden we'll say we're back in pandemic crisis mode by the end of November. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Texan Buckeye
User ID: 82234537 United States 09/19/2022 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm screaming inside my head, guys. We had to jump through hoops to get the paperwork done last Friday and they were supposed to sign off yesterday afternoon. One of the sellers STILL hasn't signed! Supposedly, they don't have email. Who doesn't have email!?! If they have a phone, they have email! Quoting: Texan Buckeye There was another showing, again supposedly, after ours on Friday. What do y'all think? Are they waiting for a better bid? Or, do they really NOT have an email? Trying to not drive myself crazy, after keeping Mr. TB calm yesterday, but having a hard time today. Am I being paranoid? On our side, we bid the asking price and are paying most of the closing costs plus a structural inspection (required by state law). My mother doesn't have an e-mail. The older the person, the more likely it is that the don't have an e-mail. Hi Riff. I checked the website around 11pm and the house has gone contingent. I hope it's in our favor. We haven't heard anything and it was too late to call our agent to check. I asked our agent if one of the owners was elderly and she said no. Idk, I guess it really doesn't matter. We have a couple of backup houses to look at if this one falls through. I hope it doesn't though. I'm trying to stay up to watch the funeral. Not sure if I'll make it live. May have to catch it later on replay. |
Riff-Raff
(OP) DEFCON 4 User ID: 78505179 United States 09/19/2022 02:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm screaming inside my head, guys. We had to jump through hoops to get the paperwork done last Friday and they were supposed to sign off yesterday afternoon. One of the sellers STILL hasn't signed! Supposedly, they don't have email. Who doesn't have email!?! If they have a phone, they have email! Quoting: Texan Buckeye There was another showing, again supposedly, after ours on Friday. What do y'all think? Are they waiting for a better bid? Or, do they really NOT have an email? Trying to not drive myself crazy, after keeping Mr. TB calm yesterday, but having a hard time today. Am I being paranoid? On our side, we bid the asking price and are paying most of the closing costs plus a structural inspection (required by state law). My mother doesn't have an e-mail. The older the person, the more likely it is that the don't have an e-mail. Hi Riff. I checked the website around 11pm and the house has gone contingent. I hope it's in our favor. We haven't heard anything and it was too late to call our agent to check. I asked our agent if one of the owners was elderly and she said no. Idk, I guess it really doesn't matter. We have a couple of backup houses to look at if this one falls through. I hope it doesn't though. I'm trying to stay up to watch the funeral. Not sure if I'll make it live. May have to catch it later on replay. Hoping you get the house you want, TB. Sending good thoughts your way. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Guythu
User ID: 81024907 United States 09/19/2022 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Likely more to the story here. And possibly a one-off situation. Regardless, this fuel crisis is going to cause and expose a lot of distortion German Bakery Slapped With €330,000 Gas Bill After Contract Canceled A German bakery was slapped with a €330,000 (US$330,000) gas bill after a new energy company suddenly terminated their contract which guaranteed pricing until the end of 2023, Junge Freiheit reported, citing Bild. .."A year ago, we paid €5,856 per month in gas costs for our large furnaces and heating," he added. … …He claims to have paid €19.9 million in taxes in recent years, according to ReMix. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] |
dyin
User ID: 84031783 United States 09/19/2022 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More preparing for supply chain issues it seems https://twitter.com/_/status/1571790393691209728 JUST IN - EU Commission is seeking emergency powers to force companies to make key products and stockpile goods in a crisis — draft framework. [link to ec.europa.eu (secure)] Truth never damages a cause that is just |
Texan Buckeye
User ID: 82234537 United States 09/19/2022 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm screaming inside my head, guys. We had to jump through hoops to get the paperwork done last Friday and they were supposed to sign off yesterday afternoon. One of the sellers STILL hasn't signed! Supposedly, they don't have email. Who doesn't have email!?! If they have a phone, they have email! Quoting: Texan Buckeye There was another showing, again supposedly, after ours on Friday. What do y'all think? Are they waiting for a better bid? Or, do they really NOT have an email? Trying to not drive myself crazy, after keeping Mr. TB calm yesterday, but having a hard time today. Am I being paranoid? On our side, we bid the asking price and are paying most of the closing costs plus a structural inspection (required by state law). My mother doesn't have an e-mail. The older the person, the more likely it is that the don't have an e-mail. Hi Riff. I checked the website around 11pm and the house has gone contingent. I hope it's in our favor. We haven't heard anything and it was too late to call our agent to check. I asked our agent if one of the owners was elderly and she said no. Idk, I guess it really doesn't matter. We have a couple of backup houses to look at if this one falls through. I hope it doesn't though. I'm trying to stay up to watch the funeral. Not sure if I'll make it live. May have to catch it later on replay. Hoping you get the house you want, TB. Sending good thoughts your way. I finally txtd our agent. The sellers DID accept our offer! They're still waiting for that final signature though. Thanks everyone for putting up with my nervous drama. It's been decades since we bought a house. It's changed a bit. Now, the house just needs to pass inspection. |
3abzzybee
User ID: 83757959 United States 09/19/2022 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Riff-Raff My mother doesn't have an e-mail. The older the person, the more likely it is that the don't have an e-mail. Hi Riff. I checked the website around 11pm and the house has gone contingent. I hope it's in our favor. We haven't heard anything and it was too late to call our agent to check. I asked our agent if one of the owners was elderly and she said no. Idk, I guess it really doesn't matter. We have a couple of backup houses to look at if this one falls through. I hope it doesn't though. I'm trying to stay up to watch the funeral. Not sure if I'll make it live. May have to catch it later on replay. Hoping you get the house you want, TB. Sending good thoughts your way. I finally txtd our agent. The sellers DID accept our offer! They're still waiting for that final signature though. Thanks everyone for putting up with my nervous drama. It's been decades since we bought a house. It's changed a bit. Now, the house just needs to pass inspection. TB, fingers crossed and prayers that this works out for you and the Mr. You certainly deserve it. Working on it |
dyin
User ID: 84213904 Canada 09/19/2022 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Riff-Raff My mother doesn't have an e-mail. The older the person, the more likely it is that the don't have an e-mail. Hi Riff. I checked the website around 11pm and the house has gone contingent. I hope it's in our favor. We haven't heard anything and it was too late to call our agent to check. I asked our agent if one of the owners was elderly and she said no. Idk, I guess it really doesn't matter. We have a couple of backup houses to look at if this one falls through. I hope it doesn't though. I'm trying to stay up to watch the funeral. Not sure if I'll make it live. May have to catch it later on replay. Hoping you get the house you want, TB. Sending good thoughts your way. I finally txtd our agent. The sellers DID accept our offer! They're still waiting for that final signature though. Thanks everyone for putting up with my nervous drama. It's been decades since we bought a house. It's changed a bit. Now, the house just needs to pass inspection. YAY such great news and I'm sure relieves some stress. Congratulations, hopefully closing goes quick after that Truth never damages a cause that is just |
Texan Buckeye
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Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 09/19/2022 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Likely more to the story here. Quoting: Guythu And possibly a one-off situation. Regardless, this fuel crisis is going to cause and expose a lot of distortion German Bakery Slapped With €330,000 Gas Bill After Contract Canceled A German bakery was slapped with a €330,000 (US$330,000) gas bill after a new energy company suddenly terminated their contract which guaranteed pricing until the end of 2023, Junge Freiheit reported, citing Bild. .."A year ago, we paid €5,856 per month in gas costs for our large furnaces and heating," he added. … …He claims to have paid €19.9 million in taxes in recent years, according to ReMix. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] On out two vacay rental properties, i have the electricity price locked till end of 2023 for one at 10.2 cents per KWH, the other at 12.2 cents per KWH with free weekend, but it expires this December. Unless something miraculous happens with electricity rate, the cost for the new plans are double. Ugh Also just got the gas bill for our primary residence, increase of 20% -- thankful Texas is not northern tier. Also received notice that 1 October electricity rates will go up 10%. Compared to what people in Europe, and some other areas of the US, are experiencing, we are fortunate Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 09/19/2022 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this energy situation is goina b messy. how can they force companies to function? is govern's going to pay for the materials to make the electricity and then pay for the power for a TP company? they expect the ppl to pay $100 for TP? i thought the EU citizens paid for utilities via their taxes? like we pay for fire depts and libraries. this should b worse than the freezing of evictions in 2020. as LJS pointed out much of US commercial power is contracted at a set rate. if the utility co. the utility co. will take losses to keep making the power. the excess $$ the utility needs has to come from residences. up north, there are laws preventing shutoffs for non-payment by residences during the cold weather. not sure of the actual writing or the dates. i believe it is OCT to APRIL. again, not sure if it is just electricity or also NG. may vary by state. to confuse things a bit more, some ppl pay the winter usage averaged out thru the year. what is used during for the whole year is divided into 12 monthly payments, instead of paying high payments during the winter and low in summer. this average is based on the previous years usage. this too would b locked in at a much lower rate than what this winter will be. now how is the utility co. going to get enuf $$ to pay for the coal or NG to make the power? they can only raise rates for maybe 50% of customers. if we see spikes in costs like overseas, there is no way the utility co. will afford o make the power. ppl won't magically come up with the $$ during the holiday season to pay the bills. we'll all see rolling blackouts like CA. repairs will be delayed on purpose as long as possible to save $$. if the wires are broken, u won't b using up power. what might been a few hours to fix, will b weeks. govern goina tell us all not to use lights like CA does with water? laws on the books dictate how much lighting a store has to have. all this $$ cost gets added to goods. Walmart ain't goina eat the cost of the power. they'll add it to everything. not that ppl will b buying if they are paying the utility co. if govern's do bailouts for utility co's., then we are looking at a step below Hyer Inflation. since all nations are in the same boat it won't quite reach HI. will feel like it to the public thou. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
Lago
User ID: 84150128 United States 09/19/2022 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm screaming inside my head, guys. We had to jump through hoops to get the paperwork done last Friday and they were supposed to sign off yesterday afternoon. One of the sellers STILL hasn't signed! Supposedly, they don't have email. Who doesn't have email!?! If they have a phone, they have email! Quoting: Texan Buckeye There was another showing, again supposedly, after ours on Friday. What do y'all think? Are they waiting for a better bid? Or, do they really NOT have an email? Trying to not drive myself crazy, after keeping Mr. TB calm yesterday, but having a hard time today. Am I being paranoid? On our side, we bid the asking price and are paying most of the closing costs plus a structural inspection (required by state law). My mother doesn't have an e-mail. The older the person, the more likely it is that the don't have an e-mail. Hi Riff. I checked the website around 11pm and the house has gone contingent. I hope it's in our favor. We haven't heard anything and it was too late to call our agent to check. I asked our agent if one of the owners was elderly and she said no. Idk, I guess it really doesn't matter. We have a couple of backup houses to look at if this one falls through. I hope it doesn't though. I'm trying to stay up to watch the funeral. Not sure if I'll make it live. May have to catch it later on replay. Check out the Guardian website: you can watch live, or go back in time about 10 hours if you wish. It also has a "key moments" link. At times, surprisingly moving... [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] Breaking the wand of office, being one... [link to inews.co.uk (secure)] Last Edited by Lago on 09/19/2022 12:27 PM Lago |
Riff-Raff
(OP) DEFCON 4 User ID: 78505179 United States 09/19/2022 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Likely more to the story here. Quoting: Guythu And possibly a one-off situation. Regardless, this fuel crisis is going to cause and expose a lot of distortion German Bakery Slapped With €330,000 Gas Bill After Contract Canceled A German bakery was slapped with a €330,000 (US$330,000) gas bill after a new energy company suddenly terminated their contract which guaranteed pricing until the end of 2023, Junge Freiheit reported, citing Bild. .."A year ago, we paid €5,856 per month in gas costs for our large furnaces and heating," he added. … …He claims to have paid €19.9 million in taxes in recent years, according to ReMix. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] On out two vacay rental properties, i have the electricity price locked till end of 2023 for one at 10.2 cents per KWH, the other at 12.2 cents per KWH with free weekend, but it expires this December. Unless something miraculous happens with electricity rate, the cost for the new plans are double. Ugh Also just got the gas bill for our primary residence, increase of 20% -- thankful Texas is not northern tier. Also received notice that 1 October electricity rates will go up 10%. Compared to what people in Europe, and some other areas of the US, are experiencing, we are fortunate We are too. Our propane prices for heating are locked until next year. Hopefully, things will have settled down by then. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Guythu
User ID: 81024907 United States 09/20/2022 05:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ummmmm…that’s an immediate problem. Fuel shortage to come next week at many petrol stations in Hungary Hungarian gas and oil giant MOL will only be able to deliver 25 percent of the needed fuel from 19 September, Hungarian media reported. [link to dailynewshungary.com (secure)] |
Roughwildfly
User ID: 68243824 09/20/2022 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So long the EU. . https://twitter.com/_/status/1572151184613593089 I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch. But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling. We all love green, thanks in advance :) So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking. We all love green. Thanks in advance :) |
Guythu
User ID: 81024907 United States 09/20/2022 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | El Confidencial, citing unidentified company sources, said Amazon told its partners that construction of new warehouses in Spain would be suspended until 2024. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] |
Guythu
User ID: 81024907 United States 09/20/2022 06:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hundreds of protesters denouncing high inflation and fuel prices took to the streets of the Moldovan capital Chisinau demanding the resignation of President Maia Sandu and her government. [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] |
Guythu
User ID: 81024907 United States 09/20/2022 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hundreds of protesters denouncing high inflation and fuel prices took to the streets of the Moldovan capital Chisinau demanding the resignation of President Maia Sandu and her government. Quoting: Guythu [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] Lol (funny, but actually sad) They should make sure all 9,900,000 Hungarian citizens get a pair of his rose colored glasses. Majority Of Hungarian Gas Stations To Run Dry Next Week Gulyás added that people could thank MOL that the government can maintain the fuel price cap scheme. As a result, gasoline and diesel prices will remain at HUF 480 per litre (EUR 1.19/l) in Hungary until 31 December. Of course, the trade off is that soon there will be no gasoline and diesel. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] |
Guythu
User ID: 81024907 United States 09/20/2022 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Uganda declares outbreak of rare Ebola strain Uganda has declared an Ebola outbreak after a young man tested positive for a rare strain of the deadly virus, officials say. Eight suspected cases, as well as six suspicious deaths, are still being investigated. The outbreak was first noticed last week when several people fell ill in Mubende, a district in central Uganda. … “This is the first time in more than a decade that Uganda is recording the Ebola Sudan strain,” Dr. Matshidiso Moeti of the World Health Organization (WHO) said in a statement. [link to bnonews.com (secure)] Last Edited by Guythu on 09/20/2022 07:50 AM |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 09/20/2022 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just ugh ..... Went to Michaels yesterday to pick up some frame work. I always park out away from everyone to avoid bad drivers, and what happens? A lady smacks me. I was backing out carefully, watching the mirrors and cameras. She is in a space about 3 places away from my space, adjacent parking row. I am fully backed out, brake on, about to shift into drive, when she puts her vehicle in reverse and tears out backwards ass butting into me at full speed. How she was unable to see my huge BMW is beyond me. COVID brain or just an irresponsible, bad driver? Of course, she was in a beater SUV, and it was difficult to tell what damage on her vehicle was from this incident, or was pre-existing. I do have a good bit of her white paint on my black bumper. So, off to the dealership this morning to get repair estimates. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |