Yaldabaoth

Empire programming is as empire programming does - it takes root in an individual and defends itself through its host

It is sad to see - I wish them the best

They were not androgynous, they were emanated in male/female sygyzys.

It's time for me to do something about what you say on here so the energy you're about to feel is my gift to you for your lies.

I brought up the nephilim to prove the point that human sex doesn't gross out celestial.

The conversation has nothing to do with incest so do you want to keep projecting your fetishes or get back to what we were talking about?

Or is this just a thread full of sexual deviants attempting to associate their deviancy with an esoteric religion in an effort to justify their perversions?

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I am in no way racist - I have friends of all colors and creeds and it does not come up as we are not extremists in our beliefs and we respect one another - we are humans that like to enjoy one anothers' time and company

When it comes to violence and fear based dogmas - I have a problem with all of them - any rationale as to why one group should be considered greater or lower is anti-human special interest hate based ideology used to rationalize holy wars and various ruling class campaign - I cannot ignore the violence, hatred, division, and mistreatment of humanity wrought into the dogma programming - which I do not tolerate

Whether worshipping the black cube or wearing it on the forehead - it is a link to dark black magick essences which are not humanity's friends - but our wardens and energy suckers

Those who claim Abraham as the origin of their belief system, hence the term Abrahamic, hold to it that their lord demanded the sacrifice of a child, and then changed his mind - requesting a sacrifice and then testing and deceiving are not aspects of the Creator of Universes - but aspects of a meddler spirit who use human pawns to manipulate and feed off of humanity

There are so many red flags and satanic infiltrations in the main three Abrahamic religions, and to lesser extents in Hinduism, Buddhism, Paganism, and dare I even say Gnosticism (some aspects, though it is the least tainted, hence why it was mercilessly destroyed) - there is no room to trust any of them fully

All are prepared to stab one group or another in the back and seek escape rather than to help to heal the wounds present here - so I do not claim any of them as my own - and I am free to do so regardless of your anger projected towards me

There is merit to be found throughout them all - the good simple spiritual basics in co-respect, uplifting the poor, helping our communities, seeing the interconnected patterns found in life, nature, and spirit, striving for spiritual refinement and transcendence - but these are typically used as lures to then install various forms of empire programming, division tactics, and parasitic mind programs

I notice you do not address my specific points as I take the time to address yours - as our conversations become more circular and you continue to take a position of insult and insinuation towards me I am going to be replying to you less and less

I do wish you the very best in life, I see myself in you as there are aspects of you in me as well, as we share a common humanity - I will not condemn you - I will hold out to find common respectful ground with you and agree to disagree

To each their own

This is the magic of humans.......we are the only species to have the ability to "create" .... this is why they are trying to snuff us out. It is a race against time at this point. All the stops have been pulled out..... except the final one.

Hoping humanity will survive. It's all about vibrational frequency, and right now, it's not looking so good for humanity.

I feel you - it is so annoying lol

As though the whole thing is constructed out of Gordian knots tied around Gordian knots

This is the dumping ground, apparently, so don't worry about it

I wanted to reach for the heavens and get an idea of the bigger picture - and as you said - the large picture is essentially the same as the small picture - like a fractal Gordian knot

As above, so below

I have been so annoyed by occultists and dogma peddlers alike - this air of superiority, holier than thou act, as we go down burning in flames and destroying Earth is beyond irritating

Why not be straightforward? If so good, what are you doing to help instead of leeching off the world and humanity?

Please just give me simple spiritual truths and leave me alone, but no - they want our soul, focus, energy, all of it

I have learned better through life directly - through give and take - energetic exchanges have taught me plenty when it comes to 'spirituality'

One of my favorite points of the Buddha is to 'form your own spirituality through living life' because then it is suited to you - you have your own reference point - your own direct connection to the divine - no external establishments of power over you

Yes, please!

I try to hold out for the glass half full perspective, that as insurmountable of a mess as it is, it will be cleaned up one way or another, and I do want to help as I can in my own ways, in my own circles, but do not want to be taken advantage of either - kindness seen as weakness ect

I do not want to be a guru, yuck - another bad taste in the mouth, transcendence into some peaceful realms for a spirit vacation would be nice, but also I do not want to seek for reward, this also feels disingenuous - so it has become my own 'middle way' that feels right to me - and that is enough

I hope the best for the spirit of Earth as well as all humans, archons, Yaldabaoth, and the whole lot - the whole story - yet also I do not want to be overly kind and accommodating - so finding that safe middle space has been very important for me - boundaries man ;)

I feel content, I am able to find inner-peace as the chaos swirls and destroys, as the yelling and violence flares up - I have enough of an idea what is going on - that is a big help, even if it is subjective / relative - but functional - that was what I wanted and I have found it well enough

Going out of body was a big help to get rid of the death anxiety - it was very nice over there! What a relief! lol There was some darkness as well - just the same as here - but overall very pleasant

Being better about navigating life over here is exactly the same as energetically navigating over there - I feel I will be okay - and that has also been a great help in feeling okay

I will live the best I can to have a good entrance back into the afterlife - but will accept things as they are - one thing I cannot tolerate is to be a passive battery or proxy support to hateful, violent dogmas - supporting the ruling class mind programs - making excuses for darkness ect - that is where I draw the line

Best to you!

I never said it did. I said between a pair would to each other because of their inherent relationship. Does spirit have sex with soul? No. It does not.

I likened it to incest because that is how people have mistranslated it in the past.


Valentinianism is part of the all is mind philosophy and syzygy is a very different mental structure within the inner realms of being. You could say Sophia without soul emanated yaldabaoth causing the capacity of thought within mind collective to become a very different baseline. With soul it is about self, with spirit it is about everything outside the self. Soul with spirit means spirit can do no wrong. Spirit alone can lose its light. Which is why death means they can be reborn in light or dark as spirit. And why eventually Jesus came to restore the light of man bringing it back into balance because the spiritual realm was effecting the physical realm hugely. It’s said as overview.

I just didn't understand why you were mentioning incest as the only reply to comment, which had nothing to do with that.

Soul and spirit are both part of a whole, like you said.

I don't see how the soul and spirit can be the basis of the sygyzy when both aeons are their own whole. Each half of the sygyzy has its own spirit and soul.

If you say Sophia and her sygyzy are spirit and soul then what being do you combine them to create?

Do you know what Sophia's sygyzy was?

Also, I have my own sect of gnosticism, I'm not a Valentinian.

We can probably do more than we know

To speed up or slow down the process

Every bit counts

Thanks all for being in the thread! It can get a bit dicey and touchy, but I appreciate the willingness to go there - provides a more genuine discussion

Was not part of the original discussion, personally I am monogamous, not trying to get into personal details lol - but also not trying to referee

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Not *probably*....... we CAN, and we MUST.

I didn't understand why there were people posting about being androgynous and incest at the same time but I guess it was a coincidence. I didn't mean to shit talk your thread.

It was in reference to the above posts.

The world is considered an image of the living aeon.

The gospel of Mary explains that as the Anthropos meaning to be fully human. As deficiency was considered matter which is the garment of the sons of god not the sons of humanity. Remembering in those times the body lived within harsh habitats so many were suffering as they did not live as long as they did previously in earlier times.


Edit sons of gods is referring to yaldabaoth lineages.

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Of course, so do i!

I’m enjoying this thread. Interesting posts by everyone.

No worries! Did not take it as such

Thanks for adding to the discussion :)

YES

is supernatural considered benificial to humans or harmful to humans
what i noticed in egypt was that supernatural was confident in the desert and was wary to the point of avoiding the ancient stone structures

my impression while being there is that alien builders cause our earthly supernatural fear unless supernatural is humble

likley because of the alien ability to manipulate teluric and atmospheric current thus dictate the emotional experience experienced

Seems to depend on the supernatural force and the motives at play

Are they trying to get something from humanity and the planet?

Or are they truly trying to be helpful?

The forces behind the megalithic structures (Egypt and elsewhere) I think are linked to empires and corrupted priesthoods - so I do not trust them

Supernatural forces such as the Sun for example - are beaming helpful energy everyday - but even too much of that and you can get burned

their possession of gravity control provides ability to form matter out of the vacuum structure thus there is nothing required from earth or the sun
our consciousness and their emotional experience experiencing us is where there is common ground
emotional values

This explains the misinterpretation of collective beliefs on Sophia and her father. Noting.

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I prefer the organic natural supertechnologies ie: planets and stars

Forming matter from a vacuum must require energy from elsewhere - so that can become parasitic

Makes me think of a super advanced version of old black magick displacement practices

We're trying to get out of the parasite model - slowly but surely

On higher dimensional planes there is no need for technology - all is real-time manifestation / built-in energy exchanges

Those who use technologies I am weary of - they are trying to side step the natural path and that seems to come with consequences such as genetic degradation

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Fabrication and what is gonna come from there is going to be distorted!

What happened SOTL? You didnt answer my other questions from a page or two back. Should i repost the questions here now since your active in this thread again?

Im greatly anticipating your kind and wonderful replies lol!