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Are we not supposed to help people?? Do YOU believe in Karma? Is helping poor people taking away their godly punishment?

 
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I am not sure when Indian things got to USA. ('60s?)
I am not sure if it is cultural appropriation for Whites.
I am not sure if there is any wisdom to any of it (chakras, karma, past lives... etc.)

Sadghuru guy says that we shouldn't help people because let them steep in their misery it is their karma. I don't like that guy very much.

I know that in USA, few people help anyone who isn't family. Many will not even give a dollar to their mother or sister or brother or son.

HOW do you feel about helping the less fortunate, and where are you from? (if you care to share, no obligation, no data mining!)

I know that when I was down on my luck, the so-called friends were all like "God doesn't give you anything you can't handle. Well, I have to go, I have a dinner to attend with my wealthy friends" and the like. A few were like "I'll pray for you, I gotta go, my sock that got lost in the wash is calling to me from the basement!"


Would you give money to a homeless person? How much? A dollar? $10? Buy them food? I've done all of this. Or do you LIE TO YOURSELF and tell yourself that they chose that lifestyle as career?

Do you NEVER put yourself in their place? Do you not realize that having money in your pocket and your going home doesn't do anything at all to alleviate THEIR reality, even if you tell yourself lies?

Do you not understand how people were PREVENTED from working, that money doesn't grow on trees, that many lost it all and that a few were jailed when they opened their business and worked?!

I am unique? Am I the only one who contacts people trying to help them even though I don't have much myself? And then it backfires: people don't reciprocate; people turn on me; people get back on their feet, tables are turned and the people I saved wouldn't spit on me if I were on fire.

How do I become ruthless, like so many of you, like the very sad guru, the evil guru, and sleep at night when others are suffering and going hungry? I have gone hungry many times recently, 5 weeks at a time, I called everywhere: no one helped me. So what should I tell myself to become ruthless and uncaring like you?
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I think first and foremost you need to look after yourself. Get yourself stronger so you can be there for others.

Helping people is not all about money. Even just a smile and a friendly greeting can change a person's outlook and steer them on a positive path.

Sometimes out of mind out of sight in small doses is a good thing to protect your own well being.

If you want to help others, find other ways to help them so you are not sacrificing yourself.

The rewards will come back to you. Not necessarily in this life, but when you go to the next level I believe.


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Thank you Daniel-sun, that's what I needed to hear. No more giving money away, ppl take advantage of me anyway already as it is!

hf
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Two of the most influential people I’ve been blessed to encounter in my life were both homeless (one I knew from a “program”, the other was more personal, as he stayed with me for a couple months before passing away less then a month ago).
Both were INCREDIBLY humble and loved G** and his Son, they simply had hang ups from their past (as we ALL do) that they weren’t able to overcome. They had discernment but never judged, which is more than I can say for colleagues from my past who ONLY judged, according to your educational status and material possessions.
How are the poor the ones being punished??? Their kingdom is not in this world...
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Thank you Daniel-sun, that's what I needed to hear. No more giving money away, ppl take advantage of me anyway already as it is!

hf
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Yes I know exactly what you mean. Just continue being the good person that you are. And avoid all of those who drain your life force and bring you negativity. There are human leeches out there who sponge off other people. On the outside they can look like saints, but within all they really care about is themselves.
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Thank you Daniel-sun, that's what I needed to hear. No more giving money away, ppl take advantage of me anyway already as it is!

hf
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Yes I know exactly what you mean. Just continue being the good person that you are. And avoid all of those who drain your life force and bring you negativity. There are human leeches out there who sponge off other people. On the outside they can look like saints, but within all they really care about is themselves.
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Yes, you got that right! OMG! So totally yes, wolves in sheep's clothing. Thanks so much for your good advice. I see your future changing for the better!!! hf

Two of the most influential people I’ve been blessed to encounter in my life were both homeless (one I knew from a “program”, the other was more personal, as he stayed with me for a couple months before passing away less then a month ago).
Both were INCREDIBLY humble and loved G** and his Son, they simply had hang ups from their past (as we ALL do) that they weren’t able to overcome. They had discernment but never judged, which is more than I can say for colleagues from my past who ONLY judged, according to your educational status and material possessions.
How are the poor the ones being punished??? Their kingdom is not in this world...
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That's pretty neat about the homeless people! I'm in that boat now! Wait... I thought you bleeped "ghae" but reading it again... is that the word "God" instead you're bleeping? May I ask why?
And thanks for your input as well!
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There are other ways to help such as referring them to local charities, or volunteering with charitable groups that might do more good. Groups can be more effective than individuals as they are more into long term solutions to help the person.

When I was down on my luck I would ask for a loan from a relative or family and was never turned down, always paid it back later. Always have a plan to change your bad luck, don’t expect people to support your poor choices by giving you money so you can continue being stupid.

I give money to strangers who ask for it. I don’t think I’ve ever assumed someone needed help who didn’t ask for it or show an obvious upset at the situation they were in. If someone just looks needy, I don’t assume they want a handout from me if they didn’t ask for it. Example, I’ve had to walk home from work and had people along the way offer rides, which is nice, but if I really needed a ride I would put my thumb out. Sometime I preferred to just walk and get the exercise. But kudos to the ones who offered help when I was too stubborn or embarrassed to ask for it. When I remember them I think of them gratefully and bless them.

If you give all your money away you can’t help anyone anymore.
Consider that we are judged more by how effective our charity was in making improvements in the person’s life. Did we actually save someone, turn their life around so they were now happy productive and self supporting. Did we just give them a fish and feed them for a day or did we teach them how to fish. This is where the suggestion of giving to charitable groups more than individuals comes in. Longer term solutions.
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There are other ways to help such as referring them to local charities, or volunteering with charitable groups that might do more good. Groups can be more effective than individuals as they are more into long term solutions to help the person.

When I was down on my luck I would ask for a loan from a relative or family and was never turned down, always paid it back later. Always have a plan to change your bad luck, don’t expect people to support your poor choices by giving you money so you can continue being stupid.

I give money to strangers who ask for it. I don’t think I’ve ever assumed someone needed help who didn’t ask for it or show an obvious upset at the situation they were in. If someone just looks needy, I don’t assume they want a handout from me if they didn’t ask for it. Example, I’ve had to walk home from work and had people along the way offer rides, which is nice, but if I really needed a ride I would put my thumb out. Sometime I preferred to just walk and get the exercise. But kudos to the ones who offered help when I was too stubborn or embarrassed to ask for it. When I remember them I think of them gratefully and bless them.

If you give all your money away you can’t help anyone anymore.
Consider that we are judged more by how effective our charity was in making improvements in the person’s life. Did we actually save someone, turn their life around so they were now happy productive and self supporting. Did we just give them a fish and feed them for a day or did we teach them how to fish. This is where the suggestion of giving to charitable groups more than individuals comes in. Longer term solutions.
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The stupid in your post is staggering!!! Obviously you have NEVER needed help and NEVER contacted a "charity". NEWSFLASH FOR YA, sweetheart: charities are A FRONT!!! They NEVER help anyone, they just refer you out, until you run out of numbers to call.

don’t expect people to support your poor choices by giving you money so you can continue being stupid.
MY poor choices!? DO you know me?! You fucking C U Next Tuesday! Another entitled, judgmental dumb twat who deserves all the good taken away from you and nothing but evil come your way. So mote it be, so may it now become your reality. Cursed you have been, you will experience that which you judge others for. Be sure of it, that reality now reaches to meet you. Full impact collision STAT! So mote it be!

You poor twat! It's dumb bitches like you and maggie who make this place a nightmare! May you never ever be able to post again, whatever it takes!
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Thank you Daniel-sun, that's what I needed to hear. No more giving money away, ppl take advantage of me anyway already as it is!

hf
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Yes I know exactly what you mean. Just continue being the good person that you are. And avoid all of those who drain your life force and bring you negativity. There are human leeches out there who sponge off other people. On the outside they can look like saints, but within all they really care about is themselves.
 Quoting: Daniel~Sun
Yes, you got that right! OMG! So totally yes, wolves in sheep's clothing. Thanks so much for your good advice. I see your future changing for the better!!! hf

Two of the most influential people I’ve been blessed to encounter in my life were both homeless (one I knew from a “program”, the other was more personal, as he stayed with me for a couple months before passing away less then a month ago).
Both were INCREDIBLY humble and loved G** and his Son, they simply had hang ups from their past (as we ALL do) that they weren’t able to overcome. They had discernment but never judged, which is more than I can say for colleagues from my past who ONLY judged, according to your educational status and material possessions.
How are the poor the ones being punished??? Their kingdom is not in this world...
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That's pretty neat about the homeless people! I'm in that boat now! Wait... I thought you bleeped "ghae" but reading it again... is that the word "God" instead you're bleeping? May I ask why?
And thanks for your input as well!
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I apologize, I didn’t realize that not spelling GOD outright could take on a different meaning to others. I simply do it out of respect for our Father...the same way I try my best not to talk with him while using the restroom (as he’s always on my mind). It’s just a personal thing, I’m not saying that there’s anything wrong with having him on your mind at ALL times, it’s just a bit embarrassing for me personally, lol.
Take care Brother/Sister/ THEY(??), LOL
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Just help people but shut the fuck about it
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My mother found out I was giving my money to beggars. She showed me directly how they were taking advantage by giving me coupons for free meals at McDonald's. The VAST majority would turn me down even though they said they were hungry. If you lie for gain you are not a good person period and don't deserve my help.

I'm glad she did that. Now I'll donate to one specific local cahirty that helps women leave abusive men and that's it.
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My mother found out I was giving my money to beggars. She showed me directly how they were taking advantage by giving me coupons for free meals at McDonald's. The VAST majority would turn me down even though they said they were hungry. If you lie for gain you are not a good person period and don't deserve my help.

I'm glad she did that. Now I'll donate to one specific local cahirty that helps women leave abusive men and that's it.
wessonoil
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On the topic of charities here in Australia. I was homeless for a brief period and approached the Salvation Army Men's Hostel in Sydney. They flat out denied me accommodation and support because I was not Covid vaxxed. Luckily for me I found a small non profit organisation who unlike the Salvation army did not discriminate against people who chose not to get the vaxx.

The Salvation Army are far from their name implies. They are judgemental and a fucking disgrace.
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Thank you Daniel-sun, that's what I needed to hear. No more giving money away, ppl take advantage of me anyway already as it is!

hf
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Yes I know exactly what you mean. Just continue being the good person that you are. And avoid all of those who drain your life force and bring you negativity. There are human leeches out there who sponge off other people. On the outside they can look like saints, but within all they really care about is themselves.
 Quoting: Daniel~Sun
Yes, you got that right! OMG! So totally yes, wolves in sheep's clothing. Thanks so much for your good advice. I see your future changing for the better!!! hf

Two of the most influential people I’ve been blessed to encounter in my life were both homeless (one I knew from a “program”, the other was more personal, as he stayed with me for a couple months before passing away less then a month ago).
Both were INCREDIBLY humble and loved G** and his Son, they simply had hang ups from their past (as we ALL do) that they weren’t able to overcome. They had discernment but never judged, which is more than I can say for colleagues from my past who ONLY judged, according to your educational status and material possessions.
How are the poor the ones being punished??? Their kingdom is not in this world...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80524094

That's pretty neat about the homeless people! I'm in that boat now! Wait... I thought you bleeped "ghae" but reading it again... is that the word "God" instead you're bleeping? May I ask why?
And thanks for your input as well!
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I apologize, I didn’t realize that not spelling GOD outright could take on a different meaning to others. I simply do it out of respect for our Father...the same way I try my best not to talk with him while using the restroom (as he’s always on my mind). It’s just a personal thing, I’m not saying that there’s anything wrong with having him on your mind at ALL times, it’s just a bit embarrassing for me personally, lol.
Take care Brother/Sister/ THEY(??), LOL
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LOL at your final words, LOL!!!! (She!) hf
Sorry for my initial misreading. I didn't think there would be any disrespect involved as you didn't take the name in vain.
Anyway, thanks for the LOLZ!!! cheers <--cream soda!
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would you rather be someone's bad karma, or someone's miracle? sheesh
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My mother found out I was giving my money to beggars. She showed me directly how they were taking advantage by giving me coupons for free meals at McDonald's. The VAST majority would turn me down even though they said they were hungry. If you lie for gain you are not a good person period and don't deserve my help.

I'm glad she did that. Now I'll donate to one specific local cahirty that helps women leave abusive men and that's it.
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So because you ran into a couple of wealthy con artists posing as homeless people now you refuse to help the REAL downtrodden?! How astute of you! Your mother taught you NOTHING!!!

As for charities... you go from bad to worse! I stayed in such a shelter myself: they FORCED US to attend their stupid meetings at 7PM when I sorely needed a shower and sleep to be up before 5 for my bus that required 2 hours by bus! The women at that meeting, workers there, GIFTED THEMSELVES silver brooches encrusted with jewels that they showed us....with the MONEY DONATED To FEED US, the homeless women!!!!

So tell me again: HOW does your money to wealthy CEOS gonna help anyone at all?! You might as well flush your cash down the toilet, tightwad! cos that's what you are. Foolish and dumb and a tightwad!

Cheers CaCa!
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Yes, the CEO's of these organisations and their other elite co-workers of a similar level often get free cars, free houses and other perks paid for by the sheep they cry poor to.

I did a short stint in a Salvation Army rehabilitation centre when I was younger. Every Sunday during chapel the pastor would be crying poor saying they needed this and that. There would be other family members of the rehab residents allowed to take part in the service and this one day in particular the fat ignorant Santa clause pastor was crying poor again, this time saying how much the place needed new air conditioning and low and behold this real old lady took the bait and yelled out she would pay for it.

What a joke.
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I am not sure when Indian things got to USA. ('60s?)
I am not sure if it is cultural appropriation for Whites.
I am not sure if there is any wisdom to any of it (chakras, karma, past lives... etc.)

Sadghuru guy says that we shouldn't help people because let them steep in their misery it is their karma. I don't like that guy very much.

I know that in USA, few people help anyone who isn't family. Many will not even give a dollar to their mother or sister or brother or son.

HOW do you feel about helping the less fortunate, and where are you from? (if you care to share, no obligation, no data mining!)

I know that when I was down on my luck, the so-called friends were all like "God doesn't give you anything you can't handle. Well, I have to go, I have a dinner to attend with my wealthy friends" and the like. A few were like "I'll pray for you, I gotta go, my sock that got lost in the wash is calling to me from the basement!"


Would you give money to a homeless person? How much? A dollar? $10? Buy them food? I've done all of this. Or do you LIE TO YOURSELF and tell yourself that they chose that lifestyle as career?

Do you NEVER put yourself in their place? Do you not realize that having money in your pocket and your going home doesn't do anything at all to alleviate THEIR reality, even if you tell yourself lies?

Do you not understand how people were PREVENTED from working, that money doesn't grow on trees, that many lost it all and that a few were jailed when they opened their business and worked?!

I am unique? Am I the only one who contacts people trying to help them even though I don't have much myself? And then it backfires: people don't reciprocate; people turn on me; people get back on their feet, tables are turned and the people I saved wouldn't spit on me if I were on fire.

How do I become ruthless, like so many of you, like the very sad guru, the evil guru, and sleep at night when others are suffering and going hungry? I have gone hungry many times recently, 5 weeks at a time, I called everywhere: no one helped me. So what should I tell myself to become ruthless and uncaring like you?
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I get what you are saying. You wholeheartedly help others in need, but they might not do the same for you.

This world could be quite cruel, but we need not have our buttons pressed so easily.

Perhaps next time you do a good deed, don't expect the ones you are helping to return the favor. When we help others out of love and compassion, we don't expect anything in return.

One thing is certain, nothing that happens in our life is ever random, coincidental, lucky, or unlucky. Everything that happens are always personal lessons for us to learn to grow up to love.

When you were down on your luck but your friends have no interest in helping you, then could you calmly step back and ponder perhaps the lesson for you is forgiveness.

We are not here to help every single person. That is too big of a task. We have many teammates to share the load. And besides, we each, having had different unique experiences, will be better suited to and more efficiently help specific persons.

So who should we help? Follow our intuition and gut feeling, because they come from what some call your Higher Self, divinity, or soul that sees and understands the much bigger picture to better guide us. And synchronicity will bring us to cross path with the ones that we each are suited to help.

With that said, what Sadhguru stated might not be so accurate. Heightened intuition and synchronicity will guide us to help the ones we are suited to and ready for our help.

Love has always been the solution to all our human problems. When we choose to have love in our hearts and transmit that love to others through compassionate thought or compassionate action, some extra ordinary benevolent events will happen to our body and mind.

We have free will to be a forerunner to assist with bringing paradise to Earth by treating each other better with more kindness and compassion, or to refrain from helping others and let suffering be the norm.

Whatever we choose, it is the right choice for our particular point along the spiritual path to love.

All the best!
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No clue.
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Last week I came across a young couple at a gas station with a flat tire and no money. The tire was pretty much shot.

I told him to wait on me. I went home and grabbed an almost new tire that I randomly had that unbelievably was the size he needed. Then I bought him a can of fixaflat to get him home. It was all I could do for them.

A couple weeks before that I was at another gas station and a young guy was at a pump, out of gas, and broke. I bought a $10 scratch off and won $20. I gave it to him.

I don't give money to people standing around with help signs. Way too many of them are con artists. But I'll do what I can for stranded folks.
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Help is temporary, pimipin is a daily affair....help once and see if it works...but don't get worked over...helping everyday is enabling poor behavior...if they can't help themselves out of a constant bind or can't help you back...let em go..
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Except that 58% are not even people nor human and neither can humankind be a sons.

“But at that time [Archangel 'Chief Sitting Bull & Hitler'] Michael will rise up, the great leader, who stands up for the sons [of man and men] of your people. And a time will come, such as has not been from the time that nations began, even until that time. And, at that time, your people will be saved [by Elijah the Prophet and Lord Jesus as the greatest Anti-Christ ever told with a sword and rod of iron], all who will be found written in the book.

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth, shall awake: some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn the many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever.

"But you, Daniel, shut up and seal the book, until the established time of end. Many will pass through, and knowledge will be increased.” - Daniel 12:1-4


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And now a word, in uncouth rhyme
Of what shall be in future time

Then upside down the world shall be
And gold found at the root of tree
All England's sons that plough the land
Shall oft be seen with Book in hand
The poor shall now great wisdom know
Great houses stand in farflung vale
All covered o'er with snow and hail

A carriage without horse will go
Disaster fill the world with woe.
In London, Primrose Hill shall be
In centre hold a Bishop's See

Around the world men's thoughts will fly
Quick as the twinkling of an eye.

And water shall great wonders do
How strange. And yet it shall come true.

Through towering hills proud men shall ride
No horse or ass move by his side.
Beneath the water, men shall walk
Shall ride, shall sleep, shall even talk.
And in the air men shall be seen
In white and black and even green

A great man then, shall come and go
For prophecy declares it so.

In water, iron, then shall float
As easy as a wooden boat
Gold shall be seen in stream and stone
In land that is yet unknown.

And England shall admit a J..
You think this strange, but it is true
The J.. that once was held in scorn
Shall of a Christian then be born.

[snip]

I know I go - I know I'm free
I know that this will come to be.
Secreted this - for this will be
Found by later dynasty

A dairy maid, a bonny lass
Shall kick this stone as she does pass
And five generations she shall breed
Before one male child does learn to read.

This is then held year by year
Till an iron monster trembling fear
eats parchment, words and quill and ink
And mankind is given time to think.


And only when this comes to be
Will mankind read this prophecy
But one mans sweets anothers bane
So I shall not have burned in vain. - Mother 'Elisha & Crazy Horse' Shipton
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Re: Are we not supposed to help people?? Do YOU believe in Karma? Is helping poor people taking away their godly punishment?
There are other ways to help such as referring them to local charities, or volunteering with charitable groups that might do more good. Groups can be more effective than individuals as they are more into long term solutions to help the person.

When I was down on my luck I would ask for a loan from a relative or family and was never turned down, always paid it back later. Always have a plan to change your bad luck, don’t expect people to support your poor choices by giving you money so you can continue being stupid.

I give money to strangers who ask for it. I don’t think I’ve ever assumed someone needed help who didn’t ask for it or show an obvious upset at the situation they were in. If someone just looks needy, I don’t assume they want a handout from me if they didn’t ask for it. Example, I’ve had to walk home from work and had people along the way offer rides, which is nice, but if I really needed a ride I would put my thumb out. Sometime I preferred to just walk and get the exercise. But kudos to the ones who offered help when I was too stubborn or embarrassed to ask for it. When I remember them I think of them gratefully and bless them.

If you give all your money away you can’t help anyone anymore.
Consider that we are judged more by how effective our charity was in making improvements in the person’s life. Did we actually save someone, turn their life around so they were now happy productive and self supporting. Did we just give them a fish and feed them for a day or did we teach them how to fish. This is where the suggestion of giving to charitable groups more than individuals comes in. Longer term solutions.
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The stupid in your post is staggering!!! Obviously you have NEVER needed help and NEVER contacted a "charity". NEWSFLASH FOR YA, sweetheart: charities are A FRONT!!! They NEVER help anyone, they just refer you out, until you run out of numbers to call.

don’t expect people to support your poor choices by giving you money so you can continue being stupid.
MY poor choices!? DO you know me?! You fucking C U Next Tuesday! Another entitled, judgmental dumb twat who deserves all the good taken away from you and nothing but evil come your way. So mote it be, so may it now become your reality. Cursed you have been, you will experience that which you judge others for. Be sure of it, that reality now reaches to meet you. Full impact collision STAT! So mote it be!

You poor twat! It's dumb bitches like you and maggie who make this place a nightmare! May you never ever be able to post again, whatever it takes!
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This is SOOOOOO true! I only helped one with the intention of getting him into a shelter or program. First problem was that after a week of being told there were no beds available at EVERY single place I called, I could tell he was so grateful because every morning when I’d call, the fear in his eyes and his anxiety was incredibly obvious. Finally, after asking him about this, he admitted that he’d rather sleep outside hidden away because he was absolutely terrified to go into a place, being a white man in this cultural violent environment. (I didn’t push the issue but I had a feeling he’d experienced this before.)
I’ve NEVER taken in a person...CERTAINLY not a man, myself being a single woman, but something in my Spirit felt I needed to help him. Also, my Spirit couldn’t send him out in this Arizona heat, knowing he had no other place to go (once again, ALL shelters were completely full even had he been willing to go).
Long story short, he turned out to be a great blessing to me because I haven’t had a friend who I could feel comfortable openly talking about my love for GOD and “crazy” conspiracies. Turns out, he already knew and believed the same things, so it was a lot of fun having someone to watch Bitchute vids on all the latest crazy shit going on with. The short relationship we had was simply platonic in nature, but it consisted of us drinking too much and, ultimately, that ended up being his downfall. It hurts losing my buddy but I’m grateful that he went in peace on my couch, rather than out on the street like a dog in 100+ degree temperature.

Just as in all walks in life, there will ALWAYS be those that will cheat, deceive, and play on your sympathies. Doesn’t mean you have to harden your heart. This is where discernment comes in because you never know who you’re truly helping and if you lose out a little bit, you’re not really losing if you know that your generosity was seen by the ONE that truly matters.
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Re: Are we not supposed to help people?? Do YOU believe in Karma? Is helping poor people taking away their godly punishment?
There are other ways to help such as referring them to local charities, or volunteering with charitable groups that might do more good. Groups can be more effective than individuals as they are more into long term solutions to help the person.

When I was down on my luck I would ask for a loan from a relative or family and was never turned down, always paid it back later. Always have a plan to change your bad luck, don’t expect people to support your poor choices by giving you money so you can continue being stupid.

I give money to strangers who ask for it. I don’t think I’ve ever assumed someone needed help who didn’t ask for it or show an obvious upset at the situation they were in. If someone just looks needy, I don’t assume they want a handout from me if they didn’t ask for it. Example, I’ve had to walk home from work and had people along the way offer rides, which is nice, but if I really needed a ride I would put my thumb out. Sometime I preferred to just walk and get the exercise. But kudos to the ones who offered help when I was too stubborn or embarrassed to ask for it. When I remember them I think of them gratefully and bless them.

If you give all your money away you can’t help anyone anymore.
Consider that we are judged more by how effective our charity was in making improvements in the person’s life. Did we actually save someone, turn their life around so they were now happy productive and self supporting. Did we just give them a fish and feed them for a day or did we teach them how to fish. This is where the suggestion of giving to charitable groups more than individuals comes in. Longer term solutions.
 Quoting: 936432979


The stupid in your post is staggering!!! Obviously you have NEVER needed help and NEVER contacted a "charity". NEWSFLASH FOR YA, sweetheart: charities are A FRONT!!! They NEVER help anyone, they just refer you out, until you run out of numbers to call.

don’t expect people to support your poor choices by giving you money so you can continue being stupid.
MY poor choices!? DO you know me?! You fucking C U Next Tuesday! Another entitled, judgmental dumb twat who deserves all the good taken away from you and nothing but evil come your way. So mote it be, so may it now become your reality. Cursed you have been, you will experience that which you judge others for. Be sure of it, that reality now reaches to meet you. Full impact collision STAT! So mote it be!

You poor twat! It's dumb bitches like you and maggie who make this place a nightmare! May you never ever be able to post again, whatever it takes!
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This is SOOOOOO true! I only helped one with the intention of getting him into a shelter or program. First problem was that after a week of being told there were no beds available at EVERY single place I called, I could tell he was so grateful because every morning when I’d call, the fear in his eyes and his anxiety was incredibly obvious. Finally, after asking him about this, he admitted that he’d rather sleep outside hidden away because he was absolutely terrified to go into a place with other homeless people, for fear of being beat up or worse, being a white man in this cultural violent environment. (I didn’t push the issue but I had a feeling he’d experienced this before.)
I’ve NEVER taken in a person...CERTAINLY not a man, myself being a single woman, but something in my Spirit felt I needed to help him. Also, my Spirit couldn’t send him out in this Arizona heat knowing he had no other place to go (once again, ALL shelters were completely full even had he been willing to go).
Long story short, he turned out to be a great blessing to me because I haven’t had a friend who I could feel comfortable openly talking about my love for GOD and “crazy” conspiracies. Turns out, he already knew and believed the same things, so it was a lot of fun having someone to watch Bitchute vids on all the latest crazy crap going on with. The short relationship we had was simply platonic in nature but, unfortunately, it also consisted of us drinking too much and, ultimately, that ended up being his downfall. It hurts losing my buddy but I’m grateful that he went in peace, in his sleep on my couch in the cool air, rather than out on the street like a dog in 100+ degree temperature.

Just as in all walks in life, there will ALWAYS be those that will cheat, deceive, and play on your sympathies. Doesn’t mean you have to harden your heart. This is where discernment comes in because you never know who you’re truly helping and even if you lose out a little bit, you’re not really losing if you know your generosity was seen by the ONE that truly matters.
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Could be big
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I sometimes think this whole Earth life is a karmic sh+t show, from the smallest insect on up. Christ Jesus actually showed and told us what to do to get free from it. Read about Christ and try to emulate him. GOD gave you all the Saints to learn from.
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Re: Are we not supposed to help people?? Do YOU believe in Karma? Is helping poor people taking away their godly punishment?
People only need help because of the short comings of human society

The idea of divine punishment was invented by the ruling class to keep the peasants on a leash while the kings steal everything for themselves

Help anyone and everyone as much as you are able - you could've been them - there is an aspect of you in them - there is an aspect of them in you
Nature in human form. Everyone and everything is an aspect of self.
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