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Just returned from a two day visit to Utah…

 
Aware & Watching  (OP)

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Just a few notables between Utah and Ca.
The people there..meaning complete strangers at various businesses were ALWAYS genuine and warm toward us. We felt like family no matter where we went.
The Walmart there had a sign that said “ mothers room” directing busy and nursing mothers to a room just for them. It did not say “birthing persons” room.
We didn’t see even ONE graffiti sign or one single homeless person. The roads were all in great shape and well cared for..as did all the infrastructure. And we were the majority. Not the minority. What California refers to as “minorities?”
We saw just a few at most. I had completely forgotten what that felt like. My husband was often referred to as “Sir” and most everyone we saw smiled at us and were polite with good manners. Even the younger adults! It was quite an experience.
Oh! And the local news..had “top stories” of storms and noise ordinance
Complaints on vehicles with loud exhausts, like motorcycles. No stories of murders, rapes, robberies etc. Gun stores advertising sales on ammo and Walmart had both ammo and shotguns for sale! And when I say ammo..I’m not talking about ammo locked behind a plexiglass cabinet in cases. I’m talking about boxes of open ammo sitting on easily accessible shelves.
It was like going back in time about 50 years. Almost surreal. No exaggeration.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


What you described is 80% of the country, so long as aren’t on the east or west coast, are far enough away from any major cities, and in a place where minorities are still a minority.

It’s pretty obvious who’s destroying this country if you travel even a little bit.
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Good points. And good to know that the majority of this country still has hope. But again..I do believe there are good and bad apples in every orchard. I’m also a firm believer in how those apples are grown/nurtured as to their potential outcome.
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It really was like a surreal experience. Very much looking forward to moving there. Just looking at some houses and trying to tie up loose ends in California:)
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Don't you get it? Locals HATE people like you! Stay away! Move to Texas or something dammit! St. George is a capital of caliplants. Enjoy having your water shut off moran!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78845855


Again..why so angry. You don’t even know me. And yet you say “people like you” makes no sense. I treated your state as the visitor I was, with respect. Spent hard earned money at your many businesses and cleaned up after myself. Even tipped housekeeping at our hotel. Tbh…you would be lucky to have me and my husband as a part of your beautiful state. We really are good decent people.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


Come to Oklahoma. We are a Red State. Housing is still affordable and so are food and gas prices. We would welcome more Conservatives...

smoking1
 Quoting: DuckNCover

Appreciate the invite. Unfortunately I have aging parents in CA that are dug in like ticks. So need to be in a neighboring state.
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Why are you so angry?
 Quoting: Aware & Watching



Because it’s GLP shill troll City

Can’t have a discussion about anything with out being lambasted by trolls


glassesoff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80601060


Generally I just place them on the ignore list. But wanted to make sure this one doesn’t actually live in Utah and really feel this way.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


Fuck you. Everyone wants to make sure California scum stays out of their state.
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Noted. And I’ll take it under advisement. Happy?
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Best of luck OP, St George is a lot different than Salt Lake. So many amazing things to see in southern Utah.
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Thank you! Just put an offer in on a house. Hoping to hear something tomorrow. Even if we get over bid..I’m sure we will find the right home for us. Definitely feeling a strong pull to relocate to St. George:)
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


lol Come swat skeeters down on the AL Coast line. We have lots of amenities. Fairley decent climate, lots of humidity
Damn Lib Yankies are bout to take over though. We need good folks to even the keel.
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Appreciate the kind offer. However aging parents refusing to leave CA forces a neighboring state for future needs of said parents.
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LOL, you haven't yet visited a town infiltrated by the Kingston clan or the Warren Jeffs outreach family.
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Do tell.
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Just a few notables between Utah and Ca.
The people there..meaning complete strangers at various businesses were ALWAYS genuine and warm toward us. We felt like family no matter where we went.
The Walmart there had a sign that said “ mothers room” directing busy and nursing mothers to a room just for them. It did not say “birthing persons” room.
We didn’t see even ONE graffiti sign or one single homeless person. The roads were all in great shape and well cared for..as did all the infrastructure. And we were the majority. Not the minority. What California refers to as “minorities?”
We saw just a few at most. I had completely forgotten what that felt like. My husband was often referred to as “Sir” and most everyone we saw smiled at us and were polite with good manners. Even the younger adults! It was quite an experience.
Oh! And the local news..had “top stories” of storms and noise ordinance
Complaints on vehicles with loud exhausts, like motorcycles. No stories of murders, rapes, robberies etc. Gun stores advertising sales on ammo and Walmart had both ammo and shotguns for sale! And when I say ammo..I’m not talking about ammo locked behind a plexiglass cabinet in cases. I’m talking about boxes of open ammo sitting on easily accessible shelves.
It was like going back in time about 50 years. Almost surreal. No exaggeration.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


Where we are in the Colorado mountains has all that minus the crazy Mormons
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Lol we actually have friends in Colorado. We will be paying your lovely state a visit in October:)
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Don't you get it? Locals HATE people like you! Stay away! Move to Texas or something dammit! St. George is a capital of caliplants. Enjoy having your water shut off moran!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78845855


Again..why so angry. You don’t even know me. And yet you say “people like you” makes no sense. I treated your state as the visitor I was, with respect. Spent hard earned money at your many businesses and cleaned up after myself. Even tipped housekeeping at our hotel. Tbh…you would be lucky to have me and my husband as a part of your beautiful state. We really are good decent people.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


Come to Oklahoma. We are a Red State. Housing is still affordable and so are food and gas prices. We would welcome more Conservatives...

smoking1
 Quoting: DuckNCover


It’s filthy in OK just like Alabama. Boring, no good quality food unless you grow it yourself. No freedom of medication. And fatties everywhere on mobility scooters who drive challengers . Yeah I’ll pass on a low IQ state like that.
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Don’t you have anything better to do with your time than insult people on my thread. How about making one yourself. I don’t like to sensor/ban people but I also won’t allow you to continue badgering people who take time out of their busy lives to post here. Badger me all you like. But if you persist on badgering others on here. You will be banned. You have been warned. Take it as you will.
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Re: Just returned from a two day visit to Utah…
Yes and we despise ca cokksukkers!
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I’m sorry to hear that. The good people of St. George didn’t give me that impression.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching



St George people were like hypnotized Zombies, and acted liked they were hiding something.
Visited there while in Vegas

Children of the Corn stuff
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I didn’t get that impression at all. But thanks for sharing your observation.
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I am from CA but not there now. Utah is one of my picks to move to. All my picks are related to places that have nice outdoor features. Water, scenery, things to do. Moab is one place that interests me.
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Thank you for posting. Much appreciated!! hf It really is a beautiful state. We are of retirement age and also looking for lots of good recreation options. St. George seems to have it all:) also looking at the Ivins area.
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Anyone here live in Utah? I just want you to know how much your state impressed me and gave me hope for this country. It felt like a political and social oasis to me compared to the sea of corruption and over regulation that CA has become..from the top down.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


Sadly our state of Utah is turning liberal and leftist at a rapid rate because of all the libtards moving here from California. Another decade and we will be same like Oregon, Washington & California. Very sad indeed
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I will not be one of them. Let’s hope some of those moving to red states are not doing so to change them.
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Good! Now get yer ass back to CA asap!
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Right? I suspect the same too. So may Californians have left their fucked up State to migrate to other States to fuck up -- like a disease.
 Quoting: JDawn


Or perhaps to seek refuge from all
Of the corruption. Please don’t paint us all with the same brush.
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Good! Now get yer ass back to CA asap!
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Already am. It was just a fact finding mission for a future move. I would add that even when folks knew we were from CA..they still
treated us with respect and seemed genuinely interested in what part of CA we were from.
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that's Mormons.

I moved to Idaho under the same mis-impression.

Mormons are always pleasant and nice to your face.

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Generalize much?
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It's generally true, to the Nth degree!

STFO!
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In that case I’ll be the degree that changes your mind about such blanket statements.
Mother of 3, grandmother of 7. Son proudly serving this country, has done three tours so far.
Conservative God fearing woman who loves this country.
And I try to treat others the way I would want to be treated.

Hope that takes me out of your “Nth degree”
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Why are you scared of God?

I never understood the "God fearing" thing.
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Good question. In this context, it means to respect the creator of all things as His created. And to show respect. As to be in awe of Him.

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Good! Now get yer ass back to CA asap!
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Already am. It was just a fact finding mission for a future move. I would add that even when folks knew we were from CA..they still
treated us with respect and seemed genuinely interested in what part of CA we were from.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching



that's Mormons.

I moved to Idaho under the same mis-impression.

Mormons are always pleasant and nice to your face.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83924199


That’s good enough for me. Especially as a new comer. Hopefully in time..they will judge my actions and my character rather than my beliefs.
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Glad you survived enjoyed your stay.
Mormons have a lot of dark secrets.

The Ute Reservation is a bit... shall we say 'Hills have eyes'.
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Good! Now get yer ass back to CA asap!
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Already am. It was just a fact finding mission for a future move. I would add that even when folks knew we were from CA..they still
treated us with respect and seemed genuinely interested in what part of CA we were from.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching



that's Mormons.

I moved to Idaho under the same mis-impression.

Mormons are always pleasant and nice to your face.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83924199


That’s good enough for me. Especially as a new comer. Hopefully in time..they will judge my actions and my character rather than my beliefs.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching



they destroyed my sister's career, she eventually
committed suicide in 2017 and they damaged mine
quite a bit.

[link to broward.ghost.io (secure)]

they're not what they seem.
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Good! Now get yer ass back to CA asap!
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Right? I suspect the same too. So may Californians have left their fucked up State to migrate to other States to fuck up -- like a disease.
 Quoting: JDawn


This ^^^

Oregon used to be SUCH a nice place to live, back in the day.

But it was all the Kalifornia shytbags that moved here and destroyed it.

For the last 10 years, I've been trying to come up with a place to move to, but every time I get interested in an area, these motherfucking Kalifornia vermin flood the area like locusts.

Next thing you know, regulations, land use restrictions, jack up property taxes, traffic, crime, attitudes, and people being priced right out of their own rental and real estate markets.

It really IS a F-ing disease. And then they wonder why they aren't welcome.

:rolleyes2:
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Good! Now get yer ass back to CA asap!
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Already am. It was just a fact finding mission for a future move. I would add that even when folks knew we were from CA..they still
treated us with respect and seemed genuinely interested in what part of CA we were from.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching



that's Mormons.

I moved to Idaho under the same mis-impression.

Mormons are always pleasant and nice to your face.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83924199


That’s good enough for me. Especially as a new comer. Hopefully in time..they will judge my actions and my character rather than my beliefs.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


a foolish thought.

if you're not a Mormon, you're a second class citizen
and will be treated that way, especially in a smaller
town. you won't get employment, and you'll lose
any legal conflicts.

good luck.
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the CIA recruits heavy from the Mormon ranch,

they make good agents,

they follow rules without complaints,
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Not from Utah, but I believe this is true. My son's high school friend is Mormon with a Japanese mom. He started working for the CIA around 12 to 15 years ago after college. He went to BYU. He is around 40 now and as far as I know he is still in. When I look back I kind of wonder if his Mormon dad was CIA also. He did lots of traveling to Asia (where he met his wife) and many other foreign places as a "tire salesman". He didn't know a couple of men my husband knew that worked locally for this same tire company. "Patriotic name" tire company ;). They were fairly well off so I know the dad was nicely compensated and mom didn't work.
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Glad you survived enjoyed your stay.
Mormons have a lot of dark secrets.

The Ute Reservation is a bit... shall we say 'Hills have eyes'.
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Care to elaborate? Or are you able to.
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Already am. It was just a fact finding mission for a future move. I would add that even when folks knew we were from CA..they still
treated us with respect and seemed genuinely interested in what part of CA we were from.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching



that's Mormons.

I moved to Idaho under the same mis-impression.

Mormons are always pleasant and nice to your face.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83924199


That’s good enough for me. Especially as a new comer. Hopefully in time..they will judge my actions and my character rather than my beliefs.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching



they destroyed my sister's career, she eventually
committed suicide in 2017 and they damaged mine
quite a bit.

[link to broward.ghost.io (secure)]

they're not what they seem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83924199

I’m truly sorry to hear that. rose
Thank you for the link. I’ll be sure to look at it.
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Already am. It was just a fact finding mission for a future move. I would add that even when folks knew we were from CA..they still
treated us with respect and seemed genuinely interested in what part of CA we were from.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching



that's Mormons.

I moved to Idaho under the same mis-impression.

Mormons are always pleasant and nice to your face.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83924199


That’s good enough for me. Especially as a new comer. Hopefully in time..they will judge my actions and my character rather than my beliefs.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


a foolish thought.

if you're not a Mormon, you're a second class citizen
and will be treated that way, especially in a smaller
town. you won't get employment, and you'll lose
any legal conflicts.

good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83924199

I didn’t get that impression during our visit to St. George, but will take it under advisement.
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Just a few notables between Utah and Ca.
The people there..meaning complete strangers at various businesses were ALWAYS genuine and warm toward us. We felt like family no matter where we went.
The Walmart there had a sign that said “ mothers room” directing busy and nursing mothers to a room just for them. It did not say “birthing persons” room.
We didn’t see even ONE graffiti sign or one single homeless person. The roads were all in great shape and well cared for..as did all the infrastructure. And we were the majority. Not the minority. What California refers to as “minorities?”
We saw just a few at most. I had completely forgotten what that felt like. My husband was often referred to as “Sir” and most everyone we saw smiled at us and were polite with good manners. Even the younger adults! It was quite an experience.
Oh! And the local news..had “top stories” of storms and noise ordinance
Complaints on vehicles with loud exhausts, like motorcycles. No stories of murders, rapes, robberies etc. Gun stores advertising sales on ammo and Walmart had both ammo and shotguns for sale! And when I say ammo..I’m not talking about ammo locked behind a plexiglass cabinet in cases. I’m talking about boxes of open ammo sitting on easily accessible shelves.
It was like going back in time about 50 years. Almost surreal. No exaggeration.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


Why are you thinking of moving out of California?
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Many reasons. Sadly..this state has become the exact opposite of my politics, ideals and values. I’ve tried to make my vote count, but I and people like me, strong conservative, are vastly outnumbered. CA is a sinking ship, spiritually, socially, economically etc. it’s insanity to remain here.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


BULLFUCKINGSHIT! Strong conservatives don't race mix like you you disgusting race mixing slut! You're either a straight out liberal or "moderate conservative" who's actually a libtard.
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ST George is a shithole that will be out of water very soon! Stay there ore
get out to Vegas or somewhere else
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Why are you so angry?
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He probably got the vaxx.
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Either that or just trolling or both maybe?
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You obviously are vaxed and an ultra liberal and ultra stupid. Those are the only type of white people that betray their race and fuck and marry nonwhites.
White people that are smart conservative and unvaxed don't betray their race and fuck and marry nonwhites like you.
You destroyed your blonde hair and blue eyes genetics forever by marrying a fycking dirty Indian!
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that's Mormons.

I moved to Idaho under the same mis-impression.

Mormons are always pleasant and nice to your face.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83924199


That’s good enough for me. Especially as a new comer. Hopefully in time..they will judge my actions and my character rather than my beliefs.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


a foolish thought.

if you're not a Mormon, you're a second class citizen
and will be treated that way, especially in a smaller
town. you won't get employment, and you'll lose
any legal conflicts.

good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83924199

I didn’t get that impression during our visit to St. George, but will take it under advisement.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


Why don't go live on the Indian Reservation you Indian fucking race traitor. You obviously hate being white. So go live with the nonwhites.
You were fortunate enough to be blessed with blonde hair and blue eyes and you fucking ruin it for all your children, grandchildren, great grandchildren etc by marrying a fucking indian.
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Why don't you just kill yourself you stupid ugly obese inbred cunt!
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Just NEVER come here! We hate you!
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wth is this ^ and all these other posters spewing their crap?

this makes no sense. Would shills be paid to make posts like this ? ...because these are way over the top nonsensical.

utah is a good place, especially when compared to CA cities. Salt Lake isn't anything like southern utah though. You couldn't pay me to live there. It's a madhouse of ants climbing over each other.

the people in S. Utah have become much more uptight over the last few decades though. It's like they want to act hardened like big city people. but...in general, it's a good, family oriented area.

good luck to you , OP.. but, if you move to Utah, leave CA there and you'll get along fine.
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that's Mormons.

I moved to Idaho under the same mis-impression.

Mormons are always pleasant and nice to your face.

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That’s good enough for me. Especially as a new comer. Hopefully in time..they will judge my actions and my character rather than my beliefs.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


a foolish thought.

if you're not a Mormon, you're a second class citizen
and will be treated that way, especially in a smaller
town. you won't get employment, and you'll lose
any legal conflicts.

good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83924199

I didn’t get that impression during our visit to St. George, but will take it under advisement.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


see my post above, OP.

In some very small towns, you may get snubbed by the mormon community. Towns of say,.... less than 1000 people.

In st. George, the above poster isn't telling the truth. There is an uppity attitude from Mormons that exists in a very few situations, but at work, or wherever, no one cares in the least.

Heavy Partying, drunk, drugged, screwed up people are looked down on in s.UT though, which is why some may talk the way they do.
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Re: Just returned from a two day visit to Utah…
Glad you survived enjoyed your stay.
Mormons have a lot of dark secrets.

The Ute Reservation is a bit... shall we say 'Hills have eyes'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83277861


Care to elaborate? Or are you able to.
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


hahah on the "ute" reservation. It's actually Piute. I've worked on that res as well as been through it a 100 times. I never felt uncomfortable.

Utes are up north.

As far as dark secrets in the mormon community...that is correct. The funny thing is that in every city , those same dark things occur but the reason they are talked about is because the far majority of the people are so seemingly clean.

In a big city, those things happen every day, all day. In a mormon community, they aren't "supposed" to happen.

prostitution. govt payoffs, "good ole boys club"... yah...it's all done in St.George, just like anywhere else.
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Re: Just returned from a two day visit to Utah…
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Why are you so angry?
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


He probably got the vaxx.
 Quoting: Daniel~Sun


Either that or just trolling or both maybe?
 Quoting: Aware & Watching


You obviously are vaxed and an ultra liberal and ultra stupid. Those are the only type of white people that betray their race and fuck and marry nonwhites.
White people that are smart conservative and unvaxed don't betray their race and fuck and marry nonwhites like you.
You destroyed your blonde hair and blue eyes genetics forever by marrying a fycking dirty Indian!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84857274


This is SO VERY TRUE.
Women think they have equal rights NOW.

They are under the illusion tho.
They have been fed a line of crap since their birthd.
It's very sad.

I love our White men.

They really are the best thing since sliced bread
My loyalties will always lay with them.





GLP