Russia denies Odessa port attack -- What organization benefits?

bill gates can buy up all the land in the usa, a few missals in the black market is no problem

On Are Tee yesterday, as soon as the Yukes admitted to mining the port and cleaning mines so grain shipments could resume, the commenters were predicting that the ships or city would be attacked by Yukes or Americans and the attack blamed on Russia.

Im not surprised, I see zero benefit for Russia but plenty for the empire.

It's clear some organization/nation-state didn't want that grain getting out and into world markets.

The fact that there is a group out there, with weapons, that is seeking more starvation in the world is awful, but not particularly shocking.

I wonder how widely this is going to be reported.

Last Edited by Old Faithful on 07/23/2022 07:23 PM

Western media will blame Russia.

Those who shall not be named.

Of course they deny it, they denied they were going to invade Ukraine right up until they did it too. Russian denials are worthless.

the wef

yah , yah . yah, yett, yett, yett and pig's fly you idiots

Ukraine would benefit by framing Russia

Or the nazis because they hate any collaboration

It's about motive. What's Russia's motive at this point? Who stands to benefit?

It's not like grain sale money is going to turn the tide of Ukraine's defense. We're giving Ukraine billions in weapons for nothing at all.

Russia just made an agreement to let that grain onto the market. It hurts their credibility, as a deal maker, to reneg.

In contrast, there definitely ARE groups (and nations) that seem hell-bent on creating a food crisis. In fact, there is one multi-national, economic organization that has made it their entire goal to reset the world's economies.

Yo- Putin doesn't give a damn about his credibility with the west (not fooling the Ukes at all BTW), he only participates in these 'summits' to see if he can extract any concessions. Why does he fling missiles at civilian targets? Because he's got plenty of them and he hopes to demoralize the Uke citizens. It's not brain surgery.

Well said.

It's not just credibility with the west. If you make a deal -- even a deal with your enemy -- and reneg -- then ANYONE who deals with you in the future is going to wonder if they're really your ally. They will discount their trust in you. This is Business 101. Negotiation 101.

I know you think what you wrote is true, but look at Russia honoring its gas commitments to Germany as recently as this last week.

Ultimately, Putin wants a surrender by Ukraine. Even a surrender involves trust.

Use some critical thinking on this, and don't just let the media's cartoonish caricatures color your ability to have insight.

Last Edited by Old Faithful on 07/23/2022 09:29 PM

That was Zerohedge shilling for Russia yesterday

This is today:

Thread: Russian Defense Ministry chief propaganda spokesman Igor Konashenkov now admits that Russia DID launch a missile strike on Odesa

Does that activate your almonds?