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The real reason they are banning Nicotine and why!!!!. UPDATED 430 , last 2 lines initial post!!!!

 
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There is a pinned thread talking about :

Thread: BIDEN DOUBLES DOWN ON FAILED DRUG WAR, PLOTS TO OUTLAW NICOTINE


I think this is why they are banning it.

Remember when EBOLA was raging years ago and they brought the man from Africa to Atlanta to treat him and they were working on ZMAPP and one other drug????


well they were both based on Tobacco for the base of the drug !!! It worked

Now we have Mpox, covid and marbug and rabbit fever !!!! 2 of which are hemmorragic diseases like ebola.


NOW THE PROOF:


ZMapp is designed to prevent the progression of Ebola virus disease within the body by targeting the main surface protein of the Ebola virus. The antibodies comprising ZMapp are produced in tobacco plants specially bioengineered to produce large quantities of these proteins.

link: [link to www.nih.gov (secure)] wow NIH dont we know someone how works for them and in league with WEF !!!!

FDA Fast-Tracks Experimental Ebola Drug ZMapp - NBC News [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] › ebola-virus-outbreak › ebo...
Sep 21, 2015 — A company called Kentucky BioProcessing grows ZMapp's antibodies in tobacco plants. No drug is approved to treat Ebola.



ZMapp FDA Approval Status

FDA Approved: No
Brand name: ZMapp
Company: Mapp Biopharmaceutical, Inc.
Treatment for: Ebola Virus Disease


ZMapp is a combination of three chimeric monoclonal antibodies manufactured in the Nicotiana benthamiana tobacco plant. It has been used in the experimental treatment of Ebola virus disease.


Or just google Z MAPP and Tobacco or EBOLA and Tobaccco!!!!!




IS IT DUE TO SOMETHING TO BE RELEASED AND THEY DONT WANT TOBACCO AVAILABLE?????


MARBURG EBOLA RABBIT FEVER, HEMMORRAGIC????


Last Edited by Coastie Patriot on 07/29/2022 04:32 PM
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A lively discussion a few weeks ago here:

Thread: NICOTINE - the new VACCINE?

Yes completely agree OP, good stuff!
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i'm sitting on a pile of tobacco seeds
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i'm sitting on a pile of tobacco seeds
 Quoting: Dogfood™


the specific species is Nicotina benthimania.


according to the link i added....

now this part will sound a lil off but when all the covid vaccine snake venom hype was happening the dr, that exposed that mentioned snake venom and Nicotinnic receptors.


how nicotine use was important and alot of people were saying around the time of covid start there was a push to start banning vapes!!!!


connected ??? im jsut a guy with no Dr Degree though
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i'm sitting on a pile of tobacco seeds
 Quoting: Dogfood™


the specific species is Nicotina benthimania.


according to the link i added....

now this part will sound a lil off but when all the covid vaccine snake venom hype was happening the dr, that exposed that mentioned snake venom and Nicotinnic receptors.


how nicotine use was important and alot of people were saying around the time of covid start there was a push to start banning vapes!!!!


connected ??? im jsut a guy with no Dr Degree though
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Nicotina benthimania the only place i can find it wants 400.00 and patents apply and only sale to limited groups !!!! hmmm odd
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i'm sitting on a pile of tobacco seeds
 Quoting: Dogfood™


the specific species is Nicotina benthimania.


according to the link i added....

now this part will sound a lil off but when all the covid vaccine snake venom hype was happening the dr, that exposed that mentioned snake venom and Nicotinnic receptors.


how nicotine use was important and alot of people were saying around the time of covid start there was a push to start banning vapes!!!!


connected ??? im jsut a guy with no Dr Degree though
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Nicotina benthimania the only place i can find it wants 400.00 and patents apply and only sale to limited groups !!!! hmmm odd
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Nicotina benthimania seeds for sale

only link i can find : [link to www.atcc.org (secure)]
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how about the people of this country tell brain dead biden and his minions to FUCK OFF

the end.
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My guess is it inhibits the spike protein from attaching to the ACE receptor because a nicotine molecule is attached to it.
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Yep... it's a good thing and should not be smoked... patches are the way... You get the good without the bad... A temp patch and then get off of it by cutting patches in 1/2 and then 1/2 again... or if you got $$ buy the lower doses to get off of them.

I found out all the good stuff tobacco COULD do if people used it right and if not sprayed with so many chemicals.... It is hard to find clean tobacco anywhere almost.
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i'm sitting on a pile of tobacco seeds
 Quoting: Dogfood™


the specific species is Nicotina benthimania.


according to the link i added....

now this part will sound a lil off but when all the covid vaccine snake venom hype was happening the dr, that exposed that mentioned snake venom and Nicotinnic receptors.


how nicotine use was important and alot of people were saying around the time of covid start there was a push to start banning vapes!!!!


connected ??? im jsut a guy with no Dr Degree though
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67013693


Nicotina benthimania the only place i can find it wants 400.00 and patents apply and only sale to limited groups !!!! hmmm odd
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67013693

Nicotina benthimania seeds for sale

only link i can find : [link to www.atcc.org (secure)]
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You can always switch to cannabis it does the same thing.
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i'm sitting on a pile of tobacco seeds
 Quoting: Dogfood™


the specific species is Nicotina benthimania.


according to the link i added....

now this part will sound a lil off but when all the covid vaccine snake venom hype was happening the dr, that exposed that mentioned snake venom and Nicotinnic receptors.


how nicotine use was important and alot of people were saying around the time of covid start there was a push to start banning vapes!!!!


connected ??? im jsut a guy with no Dr Degree though
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67013693


Nicotina benthimania the only place i can find it wants 400.00 and patents apply and only sale to limited groups !!!! hmmm odd
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67013693


resaearch indicates it is indigenous to australia and they are for sale from OZ... Http Herbalistics.com.au is the only place i can find it !!!
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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how about the people of this country tell brain dead biden and his minions to FUCK OFF

the end.
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you think people havent and it didnt work.

one could say they did with the election and that outcome, well.... depends on what your opinion is !!!


i have talked to former military and told them , "they are tryign to screw us" no they are here to protect us, it is jsut a rough time..


Selling oil to china when they are buying russian oil and ending oil in america is not protection.

also paying 96 a barrel for SPl and telling trump he couldnt buy oil at 18.86 a barrel becuase it was enriching big oil ???? doesnt sound like protection to me


back to tobacco talk... more to this than being told!!!
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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I believe it!!

The first time my husband and I had COVID, we smoked cigarettes and a lot of marijuana and barely had any symptoms.. mostly a light fever and some tiredness. The second time I was pregnant and we had stopped smoking both and it was waaaaay worse even though that strain of COVID was much less severe than the first.
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i'm sitting on a pile of tobacco seeds
 Quoting: Dogfood™


the specific species is Nicotina benthimania.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67013693


my bad, sorry for the comment, i was wrong

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Just make sure the nicotine and cannabinoids get there first.

Then the immune system kills the pathogens and all you end up with is a banging headache and fatigue.
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i'm sitting on a pile of tobacco seeds
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the specific species is Nicotina benthimania.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67013693


my bad, sorry for the comment, i was wrong

1dunno1
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i'm sitting on a pile of tobacco seeds
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the specific species is Nicotina benthimania.

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my bad, sorry for the comment, i was wrong

1dunno1
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You are golden i wasnt trying to correct i wad just putting specific out there any case any one could find. It for sale for 300. At one site and avail feom australi mentioned above in post. Indigenous to them... no apology needed
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well well well look what else i found right after with a lil more diggin

video of Fauci speaking on Tobacco and Ebola


[link to www.bing.com (secure)]



[link to www.bing.com (secure)]


the video above talks of using tobacco for flu vaccines and others
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SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Yep... it's a good thing and should not be smoked... patches are the way... You get the good without the bad... A temp patch and then get off of it by cutting patches in 1/2 and then 1/2 again... or if you got $$ buy the lower doses to get off of them.

I found out all the good stuff tobacco COULD do if people used it right and if not sprayed with so many chemicals.... It is hard to find clean tobacco anywhere almost.
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No it isn't. It's called Pipe tobacco.
[link to www.americanspirit.com (secure)]
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Yep... it's a good thing and should not be smoked... patches are the way... You get the good without the bad... A temp patch and then get off of it by cutting patches in 1/2 and then 1/2 again... or if you got $$ buy the lower doses to get off of them.

I found out all the good stuff tobacco COULD do if people used it right and if not sprayed with so many chemicals.... It is hard to find clean tobacco anywhere almost.
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No it isn't. It's called Pipe tobacco.
[link to www.americanspirit.com (secure)]
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This is a "better" link. But the prices are funny.
I can buy it for $16/lb. at the local liquor store.
[link to www.smokes-spirits.com]
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A.S. tobacco pouch in FL is now $26 bucks.
Crazy.
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A.S. tobacco pouch in FL is now $26 bucks.
Crazy.
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im in northern cali, can of bugler 6oz = 47 bucks

not bad, a pouch will run ya 8+ for .75oz

and the can comes with 230 papers

yeahsure
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A.S. tobacco pouch in FL is now $26 bucks.
Crazy.
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40g (1.4oz)
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Major producer in KY: [link to www.kentucky.com (secure)]
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Cigarettes still 6 dollers
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A.S. tobacco pouch in FL is now $26 bucks.
Crazy.
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40g (1.4oz)
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Holy shit, do you go to jail for life for rolling produce?
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Yep... it's a good thing and should not be smoked... patches are the way... You get the good without the bad... A temp patch and then get off of it by cutting patches in 1/2 and then 1/2 again... or if you got $$ buy the lower doses to get off of them.

I found out all the good stuff tobacco COULD do if people used it right and if not sprayed with so many chemicals.... It is hard to find clean tobacco anywhere almost.
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For prevention of infection you need the nicotine going where the virus goes -- the lungs.

But vaping should do the trick.
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Since their introduction, neonics derived from nicotine have made U.S. agriculture nearly 50 times more harmful to insect life.


In case you're wondering where the dragonflies are
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Since their introduction, neonics derived from nicotine have made U.S. agriculture nearly 50 times more harmful to insect life.


In case you're wondering where the dragonflies are
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They're at my house... Funny you ask.
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tobacco is a coagulant.

ebola/hemorragic fevers consume all biochemicals used by the body to coagulate.





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