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Why is Pelosi going to Asia, with an F35 and F16 military escort?

 
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But again, did she even issue a statement of WHY she was doing this?
Why?
What for?
What is to be gained?
I mean did they even issue a statement from her office - it's been known she was going and then the rhetoric and war footing over there got turned up. What was that statement yesterday?
"Play with fire - you are going to get burned" ~ xi
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I agree. They don’t seem to have their “narrative” sorted out for this yet.

Without that, they just look nuts tho,
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John Kerry would disapprove, fighter jets and Lear jets emit significant CO2
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But again, did she even issue a statement of WHY she was doing this?
Why?
What for?
What is to be gained?
I mean did they even issue a statement from her office - it's been known she was going and then the rhetoric and war footing over there got turned up. What was that statement yesterday?
"Play with fire - you are going to get burned" ~ xi
 Quoting: Starbird


She's following orders. CCCP needs a reason to take Taiwan. She's giving them the reason.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Do they need a reason tho? They already believe Taiwan is theirs.

And how is giving a high level signal of US support for Taiwan giving China a reason? You’d think it would be seen as a deterrent.
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Because we are about to rip china a new ass motherfuckers.

Biden has more balls than trump the chump could even dream of.
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Re: Why is Pelosi going to Asia, with an F35 and F16 military escort?
But again, did she even issue a statement of WHY she was doing this?
Why?
What for?
What is to be gained?
I mean did they even issue a statement from her office - it's been known she was going and then the rhetoric and war footing over there got turned up. What was that statement yesterday?
"Play with fire - you are going to get burned" ~ xi
 Quoting: Starbird


I agree. They don’t seem to have their “narrative” sorted out for this yet.

Without that, they just look nuts tho,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83296224


Maybe the simple answer is they can’t say why.

“We are going to lose in the Ukraine if China doesn’t stop supporting Russia, so we’re going to threaten China with losing Taiwan in a last ditch effort not to be seen as the biggest FAIL on the planet.”

They can’t really say that, lol
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But again, did she even issue a statement of WHY she was doing this?
Why?
What for?
What is to be gained?
I mean did they even issue a statement from her office - it's been known she was going and then the rhetoric and war footing over there got turned up. What was that statement yesterday?
"Play with fire - you are going to get burned" ~ xi
 Quoting: Starbird


She's following orders. CCCP needs a reason to take Taiwan. She's giving them the reason.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Do they need a reason tho? They already believe Taiwan is theirs.

And how is giving a high level signal of US support for Taiwan giving China a reason? You’d think it would be seen as a deterrent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83296224


The "reason" is for the fake history books and international community, and for whipping up war sentiment among the sheep.

The "high level signal of US support for Taiwan" is part of the false flag to whip up war fervor among the sheep.

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We know Biden told her not to go -
We know its escalating tensions in the extreme.
This escort was very expensive.
Why is she doing this, for what purpose at huge taxpayer expense? It seems excessively arrogant for an already excessively arrogant person.
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She is the Secretary of State?
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To cuck Biden? I don’t know, they are weird and shouldn’t be in charge.
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We know Biden told her not to go -
We know its escalating tensions in the extreme.
This escort was very expensive.
Why is she doing this, for what purpose at huge taxpayer expense? It seems excessively arrogant for an already excessively arrogant person.
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Good question.

Congress has no reason to travel internationally for US business. It's not their job.
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Re: Why is Pelosi going to Asia, with an F35 and F16 military escort?
But again, did she even issue a statement of WHY she was doing this?
Why?
What for?
What is to be gained?
I mean did they even issue a statement from her office - it's been known she was going and then the rhetoric and war footing over there got turned up. What was that statement yesterday?
"Play with fire - you are going to get burned" ~ xi
 Quoting: Starbird


She's following orders. CCCP needs a reason to take Taiwan. She's giving them the reason.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Do they need a reason tho? They already believe Taiwan is theirs.

And how is giving a high level signal of US support for Taiwan giving China a reason? You’d think it would be seen as a deterrent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83296224


The "reason" is for the fake history books and international community, and for whipping up war sentiment among the sheep.

The "high level signal of US support for Taiwan" is part of the false flag to whip up war fervor.
 Quoting: Weyoun


I will be really impressed if the media pull that off. They completely shot their wad on whipping up fervor over Ukraine (that nobody could find on a map if their life depended on it).

But people might be kind of tapped out for that kind of thing now. Fatigued. Discouraged by the money pit Ukraine has become with no results to show for it. Plus the Biden Admin looking more incompetent and deranged by almost the minute.

And China didn’t move on Taiwan, so this provocation by Nancy might be seen as “starting it.” Unnecessarily. That might not fly with the supposed “anti war” crowd that makes up most of their base.
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Would China really risk war, by shooting down her broom?
Any sarcasm in this post is purely intentional.
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She's following orders. CCCP needs a reason to take Taiwan. She's giving them the reason.
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Do they need a reason tho? They already believe Taiwan is theirs.

And how is giving a high level signal of US support for Taiwan giving China a reason? You’d think it would be seen as a deterrent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83296224


The "reason" is for the fake history books and international community, and for whipping up war sentiment among the sheep.

The "high level signal of US support for Taiwan" is part of the false flag to whip up war fervor.
 Quoting: Weyoun


I will be really impressed if the media pull that off. They completely shot their wad on whipping up fervor over Ukraine (that nobody could find on a map if their life depended on it).

But people might be kind of tapped out for that kind of thing now. Fatigued. Discouraged by the money pit Ukraine has become with no results to show for it. Plus the Biden Admin looking more incompetent and deranged by almost the minute.

And China didn’t move on Taiwan, so this provocation by Nancy might be seen as “starting it.” Unnecessarily. That might not fly with the supposed “anti war” crowd that makes up most of their base.
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The moar the people lose faith/confidence in the politicians, the moar likely they try to start wars. The politicians create crises for moar tyrannical power grabs.
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Would China really risk war, by shooting down her broom?
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That’s what our arrogant leaders are counting on.

It would be really hard to whip up the public will for a giant war with China over the loss of one extremely hated politician who was where she shouldn’t have been in the first place.

Just my read on it.
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Do they need a reason tho? They already believe Taiwan is theirs.

And how is giving a high level signal of US support for Taiwan giving China a reason? You’d think it would be seen as a deterrent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83296224


The "reason" is for the fake history books and international community, and for whipping up war sentiment among the sheep.

The "high level signal of US support for Taiwan" is part of the false flag to whip up war fervor.
 Quoting: Weyoun


I will be really impressed if the media pull that off. They completely shot their wad on whipping up fervor over Ukraine (that nobody could find on a map if their life depended on it).

But people might be kind of tapped out for that kind of thing now. Fatigued. Discouraged by the money pit Ukraine has become with no results to show for it. Plus the Biden Admin looking more incompetent and deranged by almost the minute.

And China didn’t move on Taiwan, so this provocation by Nancy might be seen as “starting it.” Unnecessarily. That might not fly with the supposed “anti war” crowd that makes up most of their base.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83296224


The moar the people lose faith/confidence in the politicians, the moar likely they try to start wars. The politicians create crises for moar tyrannical power grabs.
 Quoting: Weyoun


I agree with you 100%.

But it’s tough when half your country (or more) is rooting for “the enemy.”

Not impossible tho, I suppose.
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The "reason" is for the fake history books and international community, and for whipping up war sentiment among the sheep.

The "high level signal of US support for Taiwan" is part of the false flag to whip up war fervor.
 Quoting: Weyoun


I will be really impressed if the media pull that off. They completely shot their wad on whipping up fervor over Ukraine (that nobody could find on a map if their life depended on it).

But people might be kind of tapped out for that kind of thing now. Fatigued. Discouraged by the money pit Ukraine has become with no results to show for it. Plus the Biden Admin looking more incompetent and deranged by almost the minute.

And China didn’t move on Taiwan, so this provocation by Nancy might be seen as “starting it.” Unnecessarily. That might not fly with the supposed “anti war” crowd that makes up most of their base.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83296224


The moar the people lose faith/confidence in the politicians, the moar likely they try to start wars. The politicians create crises for moar tyrannical power grabs.
 Quoting: Weyoun


I agree with you 100%.

But it’s tough when half your country (or more) is rooting for “the enemy.”

Not impossible tho, I suppose.
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Getting half the country to root for the "enemy" is part of the psyops as well. The war, if any, will just be for show, Xiden already surrendered to commie chyna long ago.
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Re: Why is Pelosi going to Asia, with an F35 and F16 military escort?
We know Biden told her not to go -
We know its escalating tensions in the extreme.
This escort was very expensive.
Why is she doing this, for what purpose at huge taxpayer expense? It seems excessively arrogant for an already excessively arrogant person.
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Good question.

Congress has no reason to travel internationally for US business. It's not their job.
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EXACTLY
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Re: Why is Pelosi going to Asia, with an F35 and F16 military escort?
We know Biden told her not to go -
We know its escalating tensions in the extreme.
This escort was very expensive.
Why is she doing this, for what purpose at huge taxpayer expense? It seems excessively arrogant for an already excessively arrogant person.
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Source for f35 escort?
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Because we are about to rip china a new ass motherfuckers.

Biden has more balls than trump the chump could even dream of.
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wow could you be more stupid...pdojoe killed 13 marines leaving Afghanistan to the Taliban when he just up and left. Trump NEVER would have put are Marines in Harms way like that. He did the same as Hildabeast when she killed the seal team six and left three to die on a rooftop with no help coming...Demonrats hate the Military
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Re: Why is Pelosi going to Asia, with an F35 and F16 military escort?
We know Biden told her not to go -
We know its escalating tensions in the extreme.
This escort was very expensive.
Why is she doing this, for what purpose at huge taxpayer expense? It seems excessively arrogant for an already excessively arrogant person.
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Is there a carrier near? or from what base are those fighters taking off?
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With any luck target practice for the CHinese or anyone with a truck full of rocket launchers.
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Why is Pelosi going to Asia, with an F35 and F16 military escort
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She took the F-35 for sensors and BVR and the F-16 for up close, because F-35 is a sad dog in that kind of fight.
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Re: Why is Pelosi going to Asia, with an F35 and F16 military escort?
We know Biden told her not to go -
We know its escalating tensions in the extreme.
This escort was very expensive.
Why is she doing this, for what purpose at huge taxpayer expense? It seems excessively arrogant for an already excessively arrogant person.
 Quoting: Starbird


Is there a carrier near? or from what base are those fighters taking off?
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Ronald Regan according to other reports I have seen.
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Why is American military escorting a CCP asset?
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who is not even a head of state.


she's a fucking representative from california.


that should be the most telling aspect of how little biden and harris have to do with things.

but people won't notice
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Why is Pelosi going to Asia, with an F35 and F16 military escort
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She took the F-35 for sensors and BVR and the F-16 for up close, because F-35 is a sad dog in that kind of fight.
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When I tired to google up a source, seems the f35s are grounded at the moment? This plane always gave me a hairy eyeball.
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Hopefully she will be used as a sacrifice to start a war.
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She aint no fucking archbishop by a LONG shot
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Old Bag ‘O Bones in a suit, is not worth WW 3 - what is this distraction about really?
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Re: Why is Pelosi going to Asia, with an F35 and F16 military escort?
We know Biden told her not to go -
We know its escalating tensions in the extreme.
This escort was very expensive.
Why is she doing this, for what purpose at huge taxpayer expense? It seems excessively arrogant for an already excessively arrogant person.
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imo China will be invading Taiwan in January of 2023. Piglosi is going now to smooth the way for her own selfish reasons and to make sure they understand it will cost them $
for her/colleagues and "the big guy" to allow that happen without major complications.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83866402


It's perfectly possible Russia and China even had an agreement that Russia would attack first to test reaction and China would attack second.

But that doesn't change the war has been an outright disaster for Russia. And if China still plans on invading, we would see the troop buildup months ahead of time just like with Russia. An invasion of Taiwan is basically a mini-Normandy.

Unless they just bomb them into submission, but they're not "supposed" to do that, as we've seen with Russia.
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You are seriously deluded.
Russia is doing fine. Record oil and gas profits, the Ruble is very strong, their people have cheap energy, they have food surpluses, and their women are actual women and most look beautiful, they don't have "diversity", so the streets are safe, they have beautiful parks that are not full of homeless meth-heads. And they don't have a feeble idiot for a president, or a bunch of unqualified freaks running their government positions.

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We know Biden told her not to go -
We know its escalating tensions in the extreme.
This escort was very expensive.
Why is she doing this, for what purpose at huge taxpayer expense? It seems excessively arrogant for an already excessively arrogant person.
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There is another thread already.

I don't think Piglosi's flight will be attacked.
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