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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61629722 United States 08/01/2022 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This anon is probably right with his prediction the Temple Mount will be demolished in 2023, because the timeline matches perfectly with the Book of Daniel. [link to archiveanon.substack.com (secure)] Quoting: Copperegla The math is very simple and straightforward: 688 AD, Construction begins on the Dome of the Rock + 1,260 years = 1948 AD, The newly formed State of Israel announces it’s independence + 30 years (1,290 years) = 1978 AD, famous peace deal for the country + 45 years (1,335 years) = 2023, predicted destruction of the Temple Mount This futurist narrative of prophecy is completely wrong. The desolation of Jerusalem took place in 70 A.D as foretold by Christ our Messiah. He said the destruction of the standing temple of that time would be accomplished within that generation....not a future generation. Start with this video, and then watch all the others. If you sincerely seek truth, you will not be disappointed. [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78701318 08/01/2022 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SPOT ON, OP. Good to see some folks out there 'get it'. I've thought this timeline was what we should be looking for, for some time now. The preterists heads will explode now .... This anon is probably right with his prediction the Temple Mount will be demolished in 2023, because the timeline matches perfectly with the Book of Daniel. [link to archiveanon.substack.com (secure)] Quoting: Copperegla The math is very simple and straightforward: 688 AD, Construction begins on the Dome of the Rock + 1,260 years = 1948 AD, The newly formed State of Israel announces it’s independence + 30 years (1,290 years) = 1978 AD, famous peace deal for the country + 45 years (1,335 years) = 2023, predicted destruction of the Temple Mount |
Copperegla
(OP) User ID: 1229765 United States 08/01/2022 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SPOT ON, OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318 Good to see some folks out there 'get it'. I've thought this timeline was what we should be looking for, for some time now. The preterists heads will explode now .... Thank you! Has any group of people in history ever literally seen (Mark 13:26: “they will see”) 'the Son of Man coming on clouds with great power and with glory’? The answer would be ‘no’ in the ordinary physical sense of ‘seeing’, unless... “For before sunset throughout all parts of the country [of J-dea] chariots were seen in the air and armed battalions hurtling through the clouds and encompassing the cities.” Josephus, J-wish Wars 6:299; as cited in Martin, E., Signs of the Times in the First Century (1982). Christian Preterism asserts the Mark 13 prophecies happened ‘metaphorically’ or ‘spiritually’ around 66AD to 70AD with the overthrow of Jerusalem, because the ‘sun, moon, and stars’ are routinely metaphorical in the Old Testament (see e.g., Genesis 37:9-11; Ecclesiastes 12:1-2; Isaiah 5:30; 13:10; 34:1-6; 58:8-11; 59:9-10; 60:15-20; Jeremiah 4:23-28; Ezekiel 32:7-8; Joel 3:15; Amos 5:18-20; 8:9; Micah 3:6-12; Zephaniah 1:14-15), and clouds are also metaphors (Psalm 18:9-12; 68:34; 78:23; 97:1- 6; 104:3; Ecclesiastes 12:2; Isaiah 19:1; Jeremiah 4:13; Ezekiel 30:3; Daniel 7:13; Joel 2:2; Nehemiah 1:3; Zephaniah 1:15). There are some apologists who have cited Josephus’ testimony that the sun may have physically darkened around that time (albeit temporarily), and some other astronomical observations (e.g., “So it was when a star resembling a sword, stood over the city [Jerusalem] and a comet which continued for a year.” Josephus, J-wish Wars 6:289). There is a distinct likelihood these Preterist researchers are right that Mark 13 was fulfilled or partially fulfilled around the 66AD – 70AD overthrow of Jerusalem. Indeed, there is even the possibility (as I personally consider likely) that the prophecy was foreshadowing and will be fulfilled yet again (‘repeated’) in a more literal or fuller sense at the end of this current modern age. I think the key thing is to stay humble, keep an open mind, and share the good news of the gospel. Matthew 7:2 & 7:12 are a prophecy specific to you, "By the judgment that you judge, you will be judged. And by the measure that you measure, you will be measured.... Whatever you want a person to do to you, do also to them, for this is the law and the prophets." |
What, Know ye Not? User ID: 82899410 Russia 08/01/2022 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is interesting, and I appreciate the information shared, and do not disagree with it. However, I will add one thing: Jesus and the apostles said plainly that the body of Christ is the 3rd temple. What, know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, which is in you, which ye have of God and ye are not your own? The spirit of God left the building that was the temple in Jerusalem when Christ died. The veil was rent from top to bottom. The temple at that point became the body of Christ where God is worshiped in spirit and in truth. The commandments of God are now written on our hearts (not in stone) and the blood is applied at the mercy seat in Heaven. The abomination that makes desolate standing where it ought not is the mark in the flesh of the believer. Having taken the name and number of the beast, the spirit of God will leave you desolate. This is an abomination before God. I believe the focus on the temple mount is a decoy of the Enemy to deceive, if it were possible, even the elect. Your body is the temple. Do not let the abomination that makes desolate stand where it ought not. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81867741 United States 08/01/2022 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is interesting, and I appreciate the information shared, and do not disagree with it. Quoting: What, Know ye Not? 82899410 However, I will add one thing: Jesus and the apostles said plainly that the body of Christ is the 3rd temple. What, know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, which is in you, which ye have of God and ye are not your own? The spirit of God left the building that was the temple in Jerusalem when Christ died. The veil was rent from top to bottom. The temple at that point became the body of Christ where God is worshiped in spirit and in truth. The commandments of God are now written on our hearts (not in stone) and the blood is applied at the mercy seat in Heaven. The abomination that makes desolate standing where it ought not is the mark in the flesh of the believer. Having taken the name and number of the beast, the spirit of God will leave you desolate. This is an abomination before God. I believe the focus on the temple mount is a decoy of the Enemy to deceive, if it were possible, even the elect. Your body is the temple. Do not let the abomination that makes desolate stand where it ought not. 100% agree. Satan does many mockeries. I don't see anywhere in the Bible a third temple being built, it certainly isn't commanded of by the Lord Jesus, and besides that, the only inference to a physical third temple is found in Revelation when John is told to measure it. But as with most interpretations of Revelation, inferring that is a third physical temple is probably wrong, and the Muslim mosque might just be there til the every end, possibly. I wonder why the Jz didn't take vengeance on it when they saw it when they returned. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81867741 United States 08/01/2022 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is interesting, and I appreciate the information shared, and do not disagree with it. Quoting: What, Know ye Not? 82899410 However, I will add one thing: Jesus and the apostles said plainly that the body of Christ is the 3rd temple. What, know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, which is in you, which ye have of God and ye are not your own? The spirit of God left the building that was the temple in Jerusalem when Christ died. The veil was rent from top to bottom. The temple at that point became the body of Christ where God is worshiped in spirit and in truth. The commandments of God are now written on our hearts (not in stone) and the blood is applied at the mercy seat in Heaven. The abomination that makes desolate standing where it ought not is the mark in the flesh of the believer. Having taken the name and number of the beast, the spirit of God will leave you desolate. This is an abomination before God. I believe the focus on the temple mount is a decoy of the Enemy to deceive, if it were possible, even the elect. Your body is the temple. Do not let the abomination that makes desolate stand where it ought not. Also along those lines consider this. Jesus said he will make all things known that are hidden. The man of sin being revealed could be Jesus showing the believers that Satan is actually the one on the throne of the heart of their soul, to whom it is true for. I think that's when they might go crazy, the whole world, except those who Christ is in. |
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(OP) User ID: 1229765 United States 08/01/2022 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is interesting, and I appreciate the information shared, and do not disagree with it. Quoting: What, Know ye Not? 82899410 However, I will add one thing: Jesus and the apostles said plainly that the body of Christ is the 3rd temple. What, know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, which is in you, which ye have of God and ye are not your own? The spirit of God left the building that was the temple in Jerusalem when Christ died. The veil was rent from top to bottom. The temple at that point became the body of Christ where God is worshiped in spirit and in truth. The commandments of God are now written on our hearts (not in stone) and the blood is applied at the mercy seat in Heaven. The abomination that makes desolate standing where it ought not is the mark in the flesh of the believer. Having taken the name and number of the beast, the spirit of God will leave you desolate. This is an abomination before God. I believe the focus on the temple mount is a decoy of the Enemy to deceive, if it were possible, even the elect. Your body is the temple. Do not let the abomination that makes desolate stand where it ought not. Great points you're sharing, thank you, especially that the body of Christ is a temple. The scholar Tony Badillo highlights a remarkable way to visualize that biblical floorplan: [link to templesecrets.info] The Book of Revelation does not seem to give the answer one way or the other, whether there will be a physical temple building made of rocks that plays a pivotal role in the end of the current age. Aside from Revelation 11 (referencing physical structures like a sacrificial altar and courtyard), the temple references prior to Rev 21:22 ("I saw no temple") appear to refer to either the temple in heaven (i.e., Rev 14:15) or else the temple within the man (i.e., Rev 3:12). Scholars who discuss the abomination of desolation tend to focus on Old Testament books like Daniel. For me, I think the key takeaway is your insight, "I believe the focus on the temple mount is a decoy of the Enemy to deceive, if it were possible, even the elect." I suppose my follow-up question to you would be, if the Dome of the Rock is destroyed in 2023, how would this deceive the elect? Should the elect be satisfied that Daniel was fulfilled in the First Century AD? And if so, how do you relate your answer to Matthew 24 and Mark 13 referencing the Messiah's Second Coming? Matthew 7:2 & 7:12 are a prophecy specific to you, "By the judgment that you judge, you will be judged. And by the measure that you measure, you will be measured.... Whatever you want a person to do to you, do also to them, for this is the law and the prophets." |
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User ID: 25984779 United States 08/01/2022 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . ... from my studies that "dome of the rock" is really fort antonio ... so that thing can go down because it is not where The Temple stood ... . ... and that "wailing wall" is the foundation of that fort ... . ... I think some in jerusalem know this ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
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What, Know Ye Not? User ID: 82899410 Russia 08/01/2022 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is interesting, and I appreciate the information shared, and do not disagree with it. Quoting: What, Know ye Not? 82899410 However, I will add one thing: Jesus and the apostles said plainly that the body of Christ is the 3rd temple. What, know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, which is in you, which ye have of God and ye are not your own? The spirit of God left the building that was the temple in Jerusalem when Christ died. The veil was rent from top to bottom. The temple at that point became the body of Christ where God is worshiped in spirit and in truth. The commandments of God are now written on our hearts (not in stone) and the blood is applied at the mercy seat in Heaven. The abomination that makes desolate standing where it ought not is the mark in the flesh of the believer. Having taken the name and number of the beast, the spirit of God will leave you desolate. This is an abomination before God. I believe the focus on the temple mount is a decoy of the Enemy to deceive, if it were possible, even the elect. Your body is the temple. Do not let the abomination that makes desolate stand where it ought not. Great points you're sharing, thank you, especially that the body of Christ is a temple. The scholar Tony Badillo highlights a remarkable way to visualize that biblical floorplan: [link to templesecrets.info] The Book of Revelation does not seem to give the answer one way or the other, whether there will be a physical temple building made of rocks that plays a pivotal role in the end of the current age. Aside from Revelation 11 (referencing physical structures like a sacrificial altar and courtyard), the temple references prior to Rev 21:22 ("I saw no temple") appear to refer to either the temple in heaven (i.e., Rev 14:15) or else the temple within the man (i.e., Rev 3:12). Scholars who discuss the abomination of desolation tend to focus on Old Testament books like Daniel. For me, I think the key takeaway is your insight, "I believe the focus on the temple mount is a decoy of the Enemy to deceive, if it were possible, even the elect." I suppose my follow-up question to you would be, if the Dome of the Rock is destroyed in 2023, how would this deceive the elect? Should the elect be satisfied that Daniel was fulfilled in the First Century AD? And if so, how do you relate your answer to Matthew 24 and Mark 13 referencing the Messiah's Second Coming? I assumed that your expectation of the dome of the rock being destroyed was so that the temple could be rebuilt, so that the prophecy of the abomination that makes desolate could be fulfilled. Perhaps I assumed wrongly. This is a common doctrinal belief. From my perspective the temple does not need to be rebuilt in order for the prophecy (the abomination that makes desolate standing in the holy place) to be fulfilled. I know of no prophecy predicting the dome of the rock being destroyed. About the passages you mentioned, I'm not sure what you are asking. In my understanding Christ is saying, you'll see scary events, but the end is not yet - not until you see the abomination that makes desolate, which Daniel spoke of, standing where it ought not. (In my understanding, this is the mark taken by believers/the temple of God.) At that point, the warning is to flee to the mountains, because a time of trouble such as the world has never known has begun. Included is the warning not to come out for a rumor that Christ has returned. The tip given is that his return will be visible: "coming in the clouds with great power and glory." Also that a trumpet will sound and that angels will be sent out to gather the "elect" from the four corners of the earth where we will be waiting, kept through this time of trouble as the woman mentioned in Revelation 12 for 1290 days. Not something you can miss if you ARE that group of people. As I see it, it does not matter if the dome of the rock is destroyed or not. I see it as irrelevant to the events mentioned in Matt 14 and Mark 13 and Daniel and Revelation. However, I have seen prophecy answered/fulfilled in multiple ways. Should the temple mount be destroyed in 2023 and rebuilding of the temple begun, I would find it interesting considering the numbers. But not the only, nor even most important, fulfillment of prophecy. I would still be watching for the moment when some believers will take a mark that will cause the Spirit of God to leave them. This is my understanding of prophecy thus far. |
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