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Get Delayed or Denied buying a firearm? Expect a visit from the cops.

 
Abrasive
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Get Delayed or Denied buying a firearm? Expect a visit from the cops.


Every denial and delayed transaction is to be reported to local police within 24 hours... WITH all of your information.


An update:

"I think I ... well we are all missing the point.

This isn't about us.

This is about creating oppressive rules for FFL's and then pulling their licenses when they miss one."

Last Edited by Princess of Discipline on 08/02/2022 07:24 PM
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Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

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Really?

Nothing??
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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Re: Get Delayed or Denied buying a firearm? Expect a visit from the cops.
Really?

Nothing??
 Quoting: Abrasive


this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
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Re: Get Delayed or Denied buying a firearm? Expect a visit from the cops.
Really?

Nothing??
 Quoting: Abrasive


this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


This is for any law abiding citizen who gets denied, your name could be similar to someone not permitted, your address might have changed, a glitch in the system, of which there are thousands

You will be treated like a criminal for just following the law
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Re: Get Delayed or Denied buying a firearm? Expect a visit from the cops.
Really?

Nothing??
 Quoting: Abrasive


this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


I can see if a person was denied, but not delayed.

If you've bought any number of guns you've probably been delayed once or twice.

Now expect the cops to show up.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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This is why you use private sellers... Dumbasses.

What is an ATF form? Really, I've never seen one.
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Re: Get Delayed or Denied buying a firearm? Expect a visit from the cops.
I am ex military and I have had to wait a week everytime I have bought a gun...
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This is why you use private sellers... Dumbasses.

What is an ATF form? Really, I've never seen one.
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hesright
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I am ex military and I have had to wait a week everytime I have bought a gun...
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that is crazy, I buy guns in under 45 mins ATF has been delaying, use to be 15 mins.
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Really?

Nothing??
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this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


Not sure it is.

"Shall not be infringed" said nothing about felons and anyone else.
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Really?

Nothing??
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this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


Not sure it is.

"Shall not be infringed" said nothing about felons and anyone else.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


my friend, what country do you live in?

felons (until rights restoration) are 3rd class citizens

no voting. no public offices. no good jobs. no guns. cannot resist search and seizure (4th amendment goes out the window). cannot remove DNA from state/fed/UN databases. can’t get student loans. can’t get many apartments

please research your governments practices before forming an opinion :)
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Really?

Nothing??
 Quoting: Abrasive


this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


This is for any law abiding citizen who gets denied, your name could be similar to someone not permitted, your address might have changed, a glitch in the system, of which there are thousands

You will be treated like a criminal for just following the law
 Quoting: Justsayno


asked my pops about the last pistol he bought

delayed, but feds never showed

at least this doesn’t appear to be an everytime event
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Really?

Nothing??
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this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


This is for any law abiding citizen who gets denied, your name could be similar to someone not permitted, your address might have changed, a glitch in the system, of which there are thousands

You will be treated like a criminal for just following the law
 Quoting: Justsayno


asked my pops about the last pistol he bought

delayed, but feds never showed

at least this doesn’t appear to be an everytime event
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83903846


No this has not happened before. It will now be MANDATORY for all FFL's to report to the local police the individuals who are denied or delayed.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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This is why you use private sellers... Dumbasses.

What is an ATF form? Really, I've never seen one.
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hesright
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Really?

Nothing??
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this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


Unless you are Hunter Biden.
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Re: Get Delayed or Denied buying a firearm? Expect a visit from the cops.
Remember right after Sandy Hook? When Obama created a task force to address mass shootings and put Joe Biden in charge of it? I recall specifically that the pro-gun side (who were called to the table to help propose solutions) said we don't need new laws, we need to properly enforce the laws that are on the books ALREADY. Don't restrict people who have done nothing wrong, go after the bad guys when they DO something wrong. Like people on the restricted list who try to buy a gun.

Joe Biden came back at them saying C'mon, man, we don't have the man power to go investigate everyone who's on the restricted list that tries to buy a gun... (which makes you wonder where he intended to get the manpower to enforce the sweeping new laws he wanted to propose, but anyway...)

Well, that list is full of people who are felons, wife-beaters, mentally incompetent (adjudicated) and folks who've been deemed a danger to themselves or others. I think if one of them tries to buy a gun, hell yes the local law needs to at least know about it. Pro-gun advocates agreed with this as recently as the last time JB was in the White House.

If there is a hitch in this getup it's with the "delayed" category... sometimes that means as little as "we had a huge surge of BG checks, and couldn't get to this one just yet". Those should be held until a determination is made.
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Woah really? I get delayed every fucking time. Usually only about 20 minutes or so but still.
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Leave the communist states
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Really?

Nothing??
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this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


This is for any law abiding citizen who gets denied, your name could be similar to someone not permitted, your address might have changed, a glitch in the system, of which there are thousands

You will be treated like a criminal for just following the law
 Quoting: Justsayno


Why would a law abiding citizen be denied? There is no grounds to deny then
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I expect to see more ATF agents killed as a result. Deservedly so.
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This is why you use private sellers... Dumbasses.

What is an ATF form? Really, I've never seen one.
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How do you know the gun isn’t reported stolen or used in a crime?
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Really?

Nothing??
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this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


This is for any law abiding citizen who gets denied, your name could be similar to someone not permitted, your address might have changed, a glitch in the system, of which there are thousands

You will be treated like a criminal for just following the law
 Quoting: Justsayno


asked my pops about the last pistol he bought

delayed, but feds never showed

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83903846


Feds are busy beating on your neighbors, please stand by...

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Re: Get Delayed or Denied buying a firearm? Expect a visit from the cops.
I just bought a pistol. Made me wait until the third day then cleared me. No cops coming to my house. Sounds like a bunch of trash.
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Good. Gun owners need to be held to the highest scrutiny.
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Not true. Not in ohio anyway
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Really?

Nothing??
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this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


Not sure it is.

"Shall not be infringed" said nothing about felons and anyone else.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


You actually believe felons should have right to bear arms? Not sure I agree there, constitutional rights out the window when you’ve been convicted of a felony. That’s how they can put you in a cell.
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I just bought a pistol. Made me wait until the third day then cleared me. No cops coming to my house. Sounds like a bunch of trash.
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Just because they didn’t doesn’t mean they couldn’t. No offense but you’ve got to be highly irrational to think the above statement is any way valid. Crack open a critical thinking book and study it, ffs. Or remain a fool, whatever
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Re: Get Delayed or Denied buying a firearm? Expect a visit from the cops.
They can't even do background checks, if you haven't already been a frequent gun buyer, you're going to get a Delay. When I did it every single applicant got a Delay. People were pissed off.

The excuse given to me was they were too busy to do their job. Waited a month and got bupkus from them, so I got a refund and made the store waive their restocking charge because their store policy is effed up.

The stores are (or were) permitted to complete the sale after three days if there is no response on the Delay. But it's up the store if they do this or not. Chain stores usually don't, but mom and pops will.

So I haven't dug into this latest ordeal, but I'm guessing the three days thing is out if you have to wait around for a damn visit.

2A is already infringed.
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Really?

Nothing??
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this was happening decades ago if you got flagged under certain criteria

ie if you had violent felonies and went to buy one, you just violated your parole/citizenship status, which to be fair, is a crime..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83892103


Not sure it is.

"Shall not be infringed" said nothing about felons and anyone else.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


You actually believe felons should have right to bear arms? Not sure I agree there, constitutional rights out the window when you’ve been convicted of a felony. That’s how they can put you in a cell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78404064


Of course they should be able to dumbass. If they did their time and are not on parole or probation, they deserve to exercise their rights like everyone else. Otherwise they should be kept under the jail. Fuck off with your statist bullshit.





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