Taiwan Independence is an Orwellian Myth

yep, no point 23 million vs 1 billion.. the real underdog is the slave class in china

It's an Orwellian Myth because the People's Republic of China has never had legitimate claim to the land.

When they say "Taiwan Independence" they are assuming that they own it.

Think about it.

They literally have never owned that land.

It's Orwellian gaslighting.

Nobody has a legitimate claim to any land really if you think about it.

Three Juan Stars?

Pooh Bears bots are out today.

Then get out of your house right now.

You obviously don't believe what you say.

Four now..lol, must be angry foreign investors trying to take their eggs out of the ever so consistent, durable basket of goods

The bots on this site can be maddening.
And if it's not bots, then it's NPCs.

interesting nobody mentions this lady...

Madame Chiang Kai-shek Biography
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Hes right, no1 ever claim any land nor they have the authority to do so. It always come back to who has the power to do it.

Do you really think whites own the land of America? They took it from the Indians.

Do you really think you own your house? dont you know about property use limitations?
"Running certain businesses out of it
Housing beyond a certain number of occupants
Parking certain types of vehicles and equipment
Composting or burning compost on the property
Making major modifications to the property
Neighborhoods run by home owners associations (HOAs) can restrict even more, such as the color you can paint your home or the number of vehicles you can park on the property (read your bylaws if you don?t believe me!)"

Then get out of your house right now.

You obviously don't believe what you say.

What I mean is that you only partially own the house, the other owner is the govt. Understood?

Its really hard to argue that Taiwan whether or not is the land of China.

It has went thur Ming and Qing Dynasty. Whoever won the civil war and replace the Qing Dynasty will most likely own the land of Taiwan. You can try to outargue this statement. But with this kind of connection it is hard for CCP not to take it back at all cost. again it all come down to who has the power to take it.

Argue it is or its not legitimately is pointless. Similarly to Ukraine/Russia and countries in middle east.

If Taiwan is strong enough, they have the right to take back the mainland of China, its lawful.

I against hot war with China. Maybe cold war.

I don't want to die and don't want to die for Taiwan nor Ukraine.

Anyone can claim something.

Whether that claim is legitimate or not is another story.

The CCP makes claim to Taiwan, but their claim is illegitimate. "Taiwan Independence" is CCP Orwellian speak. Taiwan was never theirs to begin with. It's not like there is a rebellious faction there who ousted the CCP. The CCP was never there in the first place.

You are conflating the CCP and China.

The CCP runs the government of what was/is historically mainland China.

The CCP has never run Taiwan. Ever.

Ming and Qing Dynasty never run Taiwan?

The underdog is the politicians and rulers who want to try their hand at world domination…

We all know who will win in the end, and it’s not the CCP.

The PRC and the CCP have never run Taiwan.

You are evading reality.

Agree. Excellent take.

Don’t give any credence to the murderous, illegitimate communists. The real government retreated to Taiwan and has made a stand there since 1949. I wouldn’t even talk to the Commies except to tell them how much more the tariffs are going up every year on Chinese imported goods until they leave.

10 percent a year to start.

You are now avoiding my question. Have Ming and Qing Dynasty ever run Taiwan?

TRUTH...

Great post!

CCP Loves to be the real life version of 1984 and write their own insane version of history

All the 23 million has got to do is turn the world and people of China against the CCP. Shouldn’t be hard especially since China is costing business too much. They are ready to move to other developing countries.

Block all trade China starves in a year.

Yank on any string and it always comes back to the Democrats. Funny how that works.

Yes, and so has Japan, but your argument is a strawman and your point is a non sequitur.

PRC/CCP has no legitimate claim to Taiwan. It's never been theirs.

The Ming and Qing Dynasties are not the CCP.
Japan is not the CCP.