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Hahahahaha

hard to say how this ends up in the courts. the stabber advanced on the stabbie and started stabbing the stabbie that didn't have a weapon in his hands that I could see

robber definitely fucked up that's for sure and beyond dispute but I'd need to be convinced that the stabber was in fear for his life thus justifying the use of deadly force upon the stabbie

I'm on the fence with this

in the final analysis the stabber was at work trying to earn a living when his life was forever changed by a would be robber

push come to shove I'd side with the stabber but wouldn't feel great about it

no haha's on this one
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No one ever told you that you have to like it.
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Hahahahaha

never will enjoy killing, your fault, their fault or nobodies fault.

it's a dog eat dog world to be sure

have faced what could have been construed as deadly attacks against me twice

both times I could have put a quick end to the hostilities but instead tried to de-escalate till their was no other choice other than kill or be killed.

the first time the gang that attacked scattered when they saw the .45 so danger averted

the second time the guy's wife calmed him down long enough for me to escape. days later the guy saw me on the street and came over to apologize for acting like an asshole and to say that he was told that I was armed and that he deeply appreciated the fact that I let him live. we are somewhat good acquaintances now.

maybe I'm just lucky, I really don't know

what I do know is that for me causing death is the option of last resort

no haha's
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So curse any other racists who post in this thread, even if there are 100 of them.
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That explains your dumbassery, you're a libtard. Isn't it refreshing seeing your Antifa brethren gasp for their last breath?
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It's a tough one. I don't think anyone should die for stealing though, that's not a fair punishment.

Even if I don't like your side this is sad. The realization that you're moments away from death is terribly, terribly sad. The people here happy he died show us they're no different than animals.

Remember, to the left you not wearing a mask or getting vaccinated is attempted murder. They'd have no problem with you getting stabbed to death.
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All thug defenders in this thread assumes the store owner must be a mind reader and somehow magically knows the thug is just after merchandise. That is not how self defense works. The perp committed forceful entry of an occupied dwelling and knowingly so. Such action is always assumed to be violent threat and treated as such. The defender is not expected to read the attackers mind and know he was just trying to pay for rocket surgery for his sick grandma.
 Quoting: Weyoun


That's why the purp stated I'm dead... he read the Asians mind and knew that peace of shit couldn't tell he was dead. It's true Asians can't read minds. 😔
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Defender is not expected to have xray vision to know if thug has gun hidden in pocket or not. Forced entry is enough for defender to fear for his life and react accordingly.

All thugs and thug defenders (including in this thread) do not belong in civilized society.
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These people are thinking in transactional terms, not "threat of life and limb".

They think the shopowner should just take the financial hit... they aren't even considering the implied threat of violence of what they see before their own fucking eyes on the video.

Fucking crazy.

:stupidburns:
 Quoting: BFD


That's the mentality of all liberals. Free shit army.
 Quoting: thinking...


Define liberal

RETARD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83968638

Weak people that justify stealing.
 Quoting: BFD

That is the "antisemitic" definition. Give us the Anti-Semitic version
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One less piece of shit roaming the streets. Don't want to die like a dog in a pool of your own blood? Don't fuck with people's livelihoods.
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THIS
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Where was he dragging him off to?
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Out of the store, I think.
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The robbers were white. The store was filled with junk from China. The clerk committed overkill. One stab is enough. The clerk is a psycho and nobody will ever enter his store again.
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He's likely Korean and I would patronize his store if no other reason than this video.

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It's a pity we don't get to see what happened before, so we can get a better idea of the level of threat. Were they harassing him and threatening him before this, or did they just run in and grab some stuff? If they threatened him, were weapons involved? Did they touch him?

These things can make a big difference to if a jury will find his actions justified or not.

What could be bad for the Asian guy, is that it looks like he kept stabbing when the already hurt thief was trying to get away. I haven't stepped through it frame by frame, but that's what I see at a glance. When he made that last killing stab to the neck, was he still under threat, or had the threat already been subdued? I think that's what the jury will be trying to establish.

I'm just speculating on what a jury might say here. I think it could go either way, and the Asian guy should get a really good lawyer.
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


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LOL im dead hahahaha


DON'T STEAL
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Sounded like a bad screen play LOL!
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The minute he jumped the counter it's game on.

If he remained on the other side and was just essentially a shoplifter it would be a different story.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


This about sums it up. As soon as he jumped the counter, it changed everything for me. It became a life or death 2on1 and was a justified "kill".
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Where was he dragging him off to?
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The Chinese restaurant.
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Re: Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...
It's a tough one. I don't think anyone should die for stealing though, that's not a fair punishment.

Even if I don't like your side this is sad. The realization that you're moments away from death is terribly, terribly sad. The people here happy he died show us they're no different than animals.

Remember, to the left you not wearing a mask or getting vaccinated is attempted murder. They'd have no problem with you getting stabbed to death.
 Quoting: th1nk


He wasn't killed for stealing, but for being a imminent threat to life. All invaders of occupied dwelling are threats to life.
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Absolutely justified. Most anyone about to die will come to grips with their mortality once it is too late for remorse.

I feel more sorry for the poor shopkeeper who will likely question his own actions for the rest of his life.
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It's brutal, but I'm fine with it. Shopkeeper was faced with two individuals wearing masks. In this day and age, that's a threat to his life. He doesn't know if they are armed and there have been plenty of cases where assailants have beaten people to death with kicks and punches anyway.

Problem with it? Don't steal in an aggressive manner. Better yet, don't steal at all.
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Defender is not expected to have xray vision to know if thug has gun hidden in pocket or not. Forced entry is enough for defender to fear for his life and react accordingly.

All thugs and thug defenders (including in this thread) do not belong in civilized society.
 Quoting: Weyoun


You mention "civilized society". You mean like, Saudi Arabia or Iran? That's the kind of "civilized society" you dream of?

You're a barbaric animal that has no respect for liberty or our constitution. I don't want to live around people who think DEATH is the consequence of stealing. That's fucking insane.
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The minute he jumped the counter it's game on.

If he remained on the other side and was just essentially a shoplifter it would be a different story.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


This about sums it up. As soon as he jumped the counter, it changed everything for me. It became a life or death 2on1 and was a justified "kill".
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Shoot the fucker until he stops breathing. It's the only way to be sure
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I just love that we don't have to take anyone's word for anything anymore. If we're going to say it, we should be able to PROVE it immediately. If not, we should all just shut the f**k up. The thread said "whatever" and the video proved "whatever" is what actually happened.
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If you rob the victim has a right to self defense. No charges should be filed against the store employee.
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Did he die? It says stabbed and subdued.
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there was a for sure way for the stabbed guy not to get stabbed....

should store clerk have waited to give masked guy in all black first move to stab/shoot him first to make perfectly sure he wasnt armed? I dont think so. Sucks but ya, I dont think store guy should have to gamble on whether the guy is armed and that hes not gonna get killed
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Where was he dragging him off to?
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The Chinese restaurant.
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rofl
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The shop owner had 12 seconds to make several important decisions. What would you do in 12 seconds if your life was in danger? Shop owner did the right thing.
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Where was he dragging him off to?
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The Chinese restaurant.
 Quoting: Florida Man


lmao

He is on the menu tonight.

They don't waste anything, you know
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It's a pity we don't get to see what happened before, so we can get a better idea of the level of threat. Were they harassing him and threatening him before this, or did they just run in and grab some stuff? If they threatened him, were weapons involved? Did they touch him?

These things can make a big difference to if a jury will find his actions justified or not.

What could be bad for the Asian guy, is that it looks like he kept stabbing when the already hurt thief was trying to get away. I haven't stepped through it frame by frame, but that's what I see at a glance. When he made that last killing stab to the neck, was he still under threat, or had the threat already been subdued? I think that's what the jury will be trying to establish.

I'm just speculating on what a jury might say here. I think it could go either way, and the Asian guy should get a really good lawyer.
 Quoting: Lazy Monk



100% this.
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Overkill, nothing else, but because he jumped over the counter, he could get off if he actually felt threatened.
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Defender is not expected to have xray vision to know if thug has gun hidden in pocket or not. Forced entry is enough for defender to fear for his life and react accordingly.

All thugs and thug defenders (including in this thread) do not belong in civilized society.
 Quoting: Weyoun


You mention "civilized society". You mean like, Saudi Arabia or Iran? That's the kind of "civilized society" you dream of?

You're a barbaric animal that has no respect for liberty or our constitution. I don't want to live around people who think DEATH is the consequence of stealing. That's fucking insane.
 Quoting: th1nk


You fuckwit, he wasn't found out after the fact to have stolen.

He jumped over the counter with a ski mask on and found out some people want to go home to their families at night.

Fuck.
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That was overkill, doesn't matter how you look at it, the kid was running after the first stab, was no need to slaughter him.
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I don't want to live around people who think DEATH is the consequence of stealing. That's fucking insane.
 Quoting: th1nk


Well I am pretty sure they don't want you around either.

Go to San Francisco where that shit is encouraged.





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