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If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used.

If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty.

If the thief was threatening the shop keeper with a deadly weapon then it would be a different verdict.
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Agree, this is manslaughter.
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To all the apologists, why do you automatically think it was just a robbery?.....once he jumps the counter, he might be trying to kill the asian worker, have we not seen enough of that?....

How would the worker know the intent of the thug?....is there some kinda signal or contract that sez he is just after merchandise and not hurt me afterwards?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79044425


Well I’m not sympathetic at the least but you could see that kid going for item on shelf and not after shop keeper. Pretty sure they were kids also
 Quoting: RestoreTheAnger


>>>Pretty sure they were kids also<<<

Exactly....are you "pretty sure" they wasn't going to hurt him afterwards?....."pretty sure" they wasn't armed?....pretty sure in self defense doesn't work out too well.....
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2 on 1
Robbers don't rob the store by just asking friendly, you can assume they were armed.
Store owner probably had to deal with (armed) robberies many times before.

Not guilty.
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If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used.

If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty.

If the thief was threatening the shop keeper with a deadly weapon then it would be a different verdict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104801


So, you knew what was in the thief's heart and is mind?
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you can't attack someone with a deadly weapon because they try to steal ur shit. the guy who jumped the counter didn't even look at the employee, he went straight for the goods. He only threw 1 punch after being stabbed 3 times.

The last 2 stabs were un-necessary and were probably the lethal ones.

The employee initially went after the other robber, but they ran away. Then he went after the 'im dead' guy.

The employee went a bit too far and will probably be found guilty of 3rd degree murder and spend a year or two in prison, depending on his background and how good his lawyers are.
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fuckin canadian stfu pussawol
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Tough to see a stabbing.

But
Ninety-four retail employees were killed in homicides while at work in 2017, compared with 85 law-enforcement officers, firefighters, and others in similar positions during the same period.



More retail workers than law-enforcement workers were killed in homicides on the job each year between 2012 and 2017, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The latest year for which this data is available is 2017.

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Seems legit
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Good for the robber to know he was dying? LOL...Im ded
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He kinda sounded like he was OK with that outcome.
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If someone tries to steal from you, kill them.
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Crime scene tape is up at a business near Sahara Avenue and Arville Street in Las Vegas after police say there was a robbery and a stabbing there on Wednesday, August 3, 2022.

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That was cold blooded murder of someone basically doing a dine and dash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83294801


Was he unarmed? If he was I tend to agree, he wasn't attacking the shop keeper. This sounded like a young white kid not some hardened black criminal.

Look, that video is brutal to watch but let’s face it, the moment you advance toward me with the intent to do harm, I’m taking whatever actions are necessary to neutralize the threat.

Maybe that troubled youth will think twice next time he tries that, if there is a next time.
 Quoting: Companion


It sounded like a young white kid, unarmed and made the most stupid decision of his life, I could tell by his tone he wasn't a serious hardened criminal like many blacks you see....I could be wrong, but if they weren't armed which they don't appear to be, I don't believe this was justified, he didn't attempt to attack the shop keeper, he just wanted a few things.

Horrible video to watch but in the end the kid has no one to blame but himself.
In the end the kid has no one to blame but himself...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81572619


You're trying to read the thugs mind having the luxury to replay the video many times in the comfort of your mom's basement. The hardworking asian has to make a split second decision before being turned into another curb stomping ground meat.
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To all the apologists, why do you automatically think it was just a robbery?.....once he jumps the counter, he might be trying to kill the asian worker, have we not seen enough of that?....

How would the worker know the intent of the thug?....is there some kinda signal or contract that sez he is just after merchandise and not hurt me afterwards?
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100% justified.
You have the right to protect whats yours. Dumbass found out.
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To all the apologists, why do you automatically think it was just a robbery?.....once he jumps the counter, he might be trying to kill the asian worker, have we not seen enough of that?....

How would the worker know the intent of the thug?....is there some kinda signal or contract that sez he is just after merchandise and not hurt me afterwards?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79044425


Well I’m not sympathetic at the least but you could see that kid going for item on shelf and not after shop keeper. Pretty sure they were kids also
 Quoting: RestoreTheAnger


>>>Pretty sure they were kids also<<<

Exactly....are you "pretty sure" they wasn't going to hurt him afterwards?....."pretty sure" they wasn't armed?....pretty sure in self defense doesn't work out too well.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79044425


Figure of speech…and yeah I’m sure he wasn’t it’s called situational awareness. Some of us have and most of you don’t. As I said I’m not sympathetic but that motherfucking shop keeper would have jumped that counter and stabbed his ass regardless…that I do know.
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2 on 1
Robbers don't rob the store by just asking friendly, you can assume they were armed.
Store owner probably had to deal with (armed) robberies many times before.

Not guilty.
 Quoting: KipKat



I don't think you can just assume someone robbing your store is armed unless it's part of the state's castle doctrine. Pretty sure in Nevada your castle is only your house and vehicle.
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Once that robber jumped over the counter towards the store owner, his intentions could have been to kill him. The store owner stopped an immediate threat.
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The only good thief is a dead thief. No sympathy whatsoever. In fact, we need more of this so the lowlife scum think twice before doing stupid shit.
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Tough to see a stabbing.

But
Ninety-four retail employees were killed in homicides while at work in 2017, compared with 85 law-enforcement officers, firefighters, and others in similar positions during the same period.



More retail workers than law-enforcement workers were killed in homicides on the job each year between 2012 and 2017, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The latest year for which this data is available is 2017.

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Once the guy Jumped the shark he got Bit..

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interesting stat, thanks
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801


stfu TARD

It is JUSTIFIED IN THE NORTHEAST

Your attitude is why we are here... fuckwad
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Maybe that’s why darks have such a problem with them.
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I mean shooting him would have been justified so why not the blade?
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You can't kill someone for jumping over the counter. Are you a retard?
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Uh this is America bud
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^
Definite retard
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Try me

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DID NOT HAVE A GUN....... IM OK WITH THIS. CLOSE. CLOSE, BUT IM OK WITH IT.
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DID NOT SEE THAT THERE WERE TWO OF THEM...SO, NOW IM MORE OK
WITH IT!
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3 one was holding the door
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2 on 1
Robbers don't rob the store by just asking friendly, you can assume they were armed.
Store owner probably had to deal with (armed) robberies many times before.

Not guilty.
 Quoting: KipKat



I don't think you can just assume someone robbing your store is armed unless it's part of the state's castle doctrine. Pretty sure in Nevada your castle is only your house and vehicle.
 Quoting: anon_cow


Criminals are always armed. Always. How many head stomping videos have we seen of thugs targeting asians? Is asian supposed to wait until thugs boot is embedded in his head?

When your life is on the line, you can't be flipping through state law books. Better tried by 12 than carried by 6.
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2 on 1
Robbers don't rob the store by just asking friendly, you can assume they were armed.
Store owner probably had to deal with (armed) robberies many times before.

Not guilty.
 Quoting: KipKat



I don't think you can just assume someone robbing your store is armed unless it's part of the state's castle doctrine. Pretty sure in Nevada your castle is only your house and vehicle.
 Quoting: anon_cow


here's another tard

the criminal got exactly what he deserved

your attitude is why we are here

fucking idiots everywhere
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You filthy retard, you are totally wrong. Deadly force is not permitted because someone jumps over a counter. Dumb shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82917880


100% justified. Once you show you are invader, any force to stop you is justified.
 Quoting: Weyoun



Reasonable force not any.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74979867


Okay, so we won't drop any nukes.
 Quoting: BFD


If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used.

If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty.

If the thief was threatening the shop keeper with a deadly weapon then it would be a different verdict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104801


Agree, this is manslaughter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83898963


That was cold blooded murder of someone basically doing a dine and dash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83294801


Was he unarmed? If he was I tend to agree, he wasn't attacking the shop keeper. This sounded like a young white kid not some hardened black criminal.

Look, that video is brutal to watch but let’s face it, the moment you advance toward me with the intent to do harm, I’m taking whatever actions are necessary to neutralize the threat.

Maybe that troubled youth will think twice next time he tries that, if there is a next time.
 Quoting: Companion


It sounded like a young white kid, unarmed and made the most stupid decision of his life, I could tell by his tone he wasn't a serious hardened criminal like many blacks you see....I could be wrong, but if they weren't armed which they don't appear to be, I don't believe this was justified, he didn't attempt to attack the shop keeper, he just wanted a few things.

Horrible video to watch but in the end the kid has no one to blame but himself.
In the end the kid has no one to blame but himself...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81572619


You're trying to read the thugs mind having the luxury to replay the video many times in the comfort of your mom's basement. The hardworking asian has to make a split second decision before being turned into another curb stomping ground meat.
 Quoting: Weyoun



I can tell your biased by your display name. You are Asian I assume?

Anyway It was excessive force and you know it. If he just hung out in that corner the kid would have grabbed a few things and left and both their lives wouldn't have been ruined forever.
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Re: Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...
Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801


Bullshit, steal from me and if you are in my home, and are a threat to me and my family. You will not walk out of my home.

PERIOD.


1 less POS walking the earth as far as I'm concerned.
 Quoting: Boiling Frog



Home invasion is always a violent crime even if they don't have a weapon. If I understand nevada correctly burglary without a weapon is a property crime. So if these guys didn't have weapons or threatened they had them this might be a problem. I could be wrong. I just read laws in nevada for a couple minutes.
 Quoting: anon_cow


Burglary is breaking into a premises on the assumption its empty....what you say on the vid is robbery....
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Once that robber jumped over the counter towards the store owner, his intentions could have been to kill him. The store owner stopped an immediate threat.
 Quoting: Rubyskyeye


If you notice that shop keeper grabbed that knife before that kid jumped over. He was going to go after #1
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2 on 1
Robbers don't rob the store by just asking friendly, you can assume they were armed.
Store owner probably had to deal with (armed) robberies many times before.

Not guilty.
 Quoting: KipKat



I don't think you can just assume someone robbing your store is armed unless it's part of the state's castle doctrine. Pretty sure in Nevada your castle is only your house and vehicle.
 Quoting: anon_cow


Place of business is the same as your home or car, dumbo.
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Defender is not expected to have xray vision to know if thug has gun hidden in pocket or not. Forced entry is enough for defender to fear for his life and react accordingly.

All thugs and thug defenders (including in this thread) do not belong in civilized society.
 Quoting: Weyoun


You mention "civilized society". You mean like, Saudi Arabia or Iran? That's the kind of "civilized society" you dream of?

You're a barbaric animal that has no respect for liberty or our constitution. I don't want to live around people who think DEATH is the consequence of stealing. That's fucking insane.
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