Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One... | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83898963 United Kingdom 08/05/2022 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104801 If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty. If the thief was threatening the shop keeper with a deadly weapon then it would be a different verdict. Agree, this is manslaughter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79044425 United States 08/05/2022 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all the apologists, why do you automatically think it was just a robbery?.....once he jumps the counter, he might be trying to kill the asian worker, have we not seen enough of that?.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79044425 How would the worker know the intent of the thug?....is there some kinda signal or contract that sez he is just after merchandise and not hurt me afterwards? Well I’m not sympathetic at the least but you could see that kid going for item on shelf and not after shop keeper. Pretty sure they were kids also >>>Pretty sure they were kids also<<< Exactly....are you "pretty sure" they wasn't going to hurt him afterwards?....."pretty sure" they wasn't armed?....pretty sure in self defense doesn't work out too well..... |
KipKat
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chobee
User ID: 78062347 United States 08/05/2022 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104801 If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty. If the thief was threatening the shop keeper with a deadly weapon then it would be a different verdict. So, you knew what was in the thief's heart and is mind? chobee |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83667304 08/05/2022 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't attack someone with a deadly weapon because they try to steal ur shit. the guy who jumped the counter didn't even look at the employee, he went straight for the goods. He only threw 1 punch after being stabbed 3 times. Quoting: SilverCyprus The last 2 stabs were un-necessary and were probably the lethal ones. The employee initially went after the other robber, but they ran away. Then he went after the 'im dead' guy. The employee went a bit too far and will probably be found guilty of 3rd degree murder and spend a year or two in prison, depending on his background and how good his lawyers are. fuckin canadian stfu pussawol |
Backwash
User ID: 77794570 United States 08/05/2022 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But Ninety-four retail employees were killed in homicides while at work in 2017, compared with 85 law-enforcement officers, firefighters, and others in similar positions during the same period. More retail workers than law-enforcement workers were killed in homicides on the job each year between 2012 and 2017, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The latest year for which this data is available is 2017. More below [link to www.businessinsider.com (secure)] Once the guy Jumped the shark he got Bit.. Jed Eckert: C'mon! We're all going to die, die standing up! Why is it that an economic theorist called an "expert", but a conspiracy expert is called a "theorist"? The only time an aircraft has too much fuel onboard is when it is on fire. . . . Sir Charles Kingsford Smith |
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nutmeg
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Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 08/05/2022 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That was cold blooded murder of someone basically doing a dine and dash. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83294801 Was he unarmed? If he was I tend to agree, he wasn't attacking the shop keeper. This sounded like a young white kid not some hardened black criminal. Look, that video is brutal to watch but let’s face it, the moment you advance toward me with the intent to do harm, I’m taking whatever actions are necessary to neutralize the threat. Quoting: Companion Maybe that troubled youth will think twice next time he tries that, if there is a next time. It sounded like a young white kid, unarmed and made the most stupid decision of his life, I could tell by his tone he wasn't a serious hardened criminal like many blacks you see....I could be wrong, but if they weren't armed which they don't appear to be, I don't believe this was justified, he didn't attempt to attack the shop keeper, he just wanted a few things. Horrible video to watch but in the end the kid has no one to blame but himself. In the end the kid has no one to blame but himself... You're trying to read the thugs mind having the luxury to replay the video many times in the comfort of your mom's basement. The hardworking asian has to make a split second decision before being turned into another curb stomping ground meat. |
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User ID: 72286726 United States 08/05/2022 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all the apologists, why do you automatically think it was just a robbery?.....once he jumps the counter, he might be trying to kill the asian worker, have we not seen enough of that?.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79044425 How would the worker know the intent of the thug?....is there some kinda signal or contract that sez he is just after merchandise and not hurt me afterwards? . “The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge.” Proverbs 18:15 |
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RestoreTheAnger
User ID: 83968805 United States 08/05/2022 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all the apologists, why do you automatically think it was just a robbery?.....once he jumps the counter, he might be trying to kill the asian worker, have we not seen enough of that?.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79044425 How would the worker know the intent of the thug?....is there some kinda signal or contract that sez he is just after merchandise and not hurt me afterwards? Well I’m not sympathetic at the least but you could see that kid going for item on shelf and not after shop keeper. Pretty sure they were kids also >>>Pretty sure they were kids also<<< Exactly....are you "pretty sure" they wasn't going to hurt him afterwards?....."pretty sure" they wasn't armed?....pretty sure in self defense doesn't work out too well..... Figure of speech…and yeah I’m sure he wasn’t it’s called situational awareness. Some of us have and most of you don’t. As I said I’m not sympathetic but that motherfucking shop keeper would have jumped that counter and stabbed his ass regardless…that I do know. Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
anon_cow
User ID: 83920834 United States 08/05/2022 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 on 1 Quoting: KipKat Robbers don't rob the store by just asking friendly, you can assume they were armed. Store owner probably had to deal with (armed) robberies many times before. Not guilty. I don't think you can just assume someone robbing your store is armed unless it's part of the state's castle doctrine. Pretty sure in Nevada your castle is only your house and vehicle. |
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SwampCreature
User ID: 81826970 United States 08/05/2022 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tough to see a stabbing. Quoting: Backwash But Ninety-four retail employees were killed in homicides while at work in 2017, compared with 85 law-enforcement officers, firefighters, and others in similar positions during the same period. More retail workers than law-enforcement workers were killed in homicides on the job each year between 2012 and 2017, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The latest year for which this data is available is 2017. More below [link to www.businessinsider.com (secure)] Once the guy Jumped the shark he got Bit.. interesting stat, thanks SwampCreature |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81225824 United States 08/05/2022 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be. Quoting: J-Bird However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. What do y'all think? https://twitter.com/_/status/1555610270256562176 I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are. That's all that matters is the law right? Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing. stfu TARD It is JUSTIFIED IN THE NORTHEAST Your attitude is why we are here... fuckwad |
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Weyoun
User ID: 81110693 United States 08/05/2022 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 on 1 Quoting: KipKat Robbers don't rob the store by just asking friendly, you can assume they were armed. Store owner probably had to deal with (armed) robberies many times before. Not guilty. I don't think you can just assume someone robbing your store is armed unless it's part of the state's castle doctrine. Pretty sure in Nevada your castle is only your house and vehicle. Criminals are always armed. Always. How many head stomping videos have we seen of thugs targeting asians? Is asian supposed to wait until thugs boot is embedded in his head? When your life is on the line, you can't be flipping through state law books. Better tried by 12 than carried by 6. |
nutmeg
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81225824 United States 08/05/2022 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 on 1 Quoting: KipKat Robbers don't rob the store by just asking friendly, you can assume they were armed. Store owner probably had to deal with (armed) robberies many times before. Not guilty. I don't think you can just assume someone robbing your store is armed unless it's part of the state's castle doctrine. Pretty sure in Nevada your castle is only your house and vehicle. here's another tard the criminal got exactly what he deserved your attitude is why we are here fucking idiots everywhere |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81572619 United States 08/05/2022 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82917880 You filthy retard, you are totally wrong. Deadly force is not permitted because someone jumps over a counter. Dumb shit. 100% justified. Once you show you are invader, any force to stop you is justified. Reasonable force not any. Okay, so we won't drop any nukes. If someone is not assaulting you with lethal force, I don't believe lethal force should be used. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104801 If I was on a jury, that store keeper would be found guilty. If the thief was threatening the shop keeper with a deadly weapon then it would be a different verdict. Agree, this is manslaughter. That was cold blooded murder of someone basically doing a dine and dash. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83294801 Was he unarmed? If he was I tend to agree, he wasn't attacking the shop keeper. This sounded like a young white kid not some hardened black criminal. Look, that video is brutal to watch but let’s face it, the moment you advance toward me with the intent to do harm, I’m taking whatever actions are necessary to neutralize the threat. Quoting: Companion Maybe that troubled youth will think twice next time he tries that, if there is a next time. It sounded like a young white kid, unarmed and made the most stupid decision of his life, I could tell by his tone he wasn't a serious hardened criminal like many blacks you see....I could be wrong, but if they weren't armed which they don't appear to be, I don't believe this was justified, he didn't attempt to attack the shop keeper, he just wanted a few things. Horrible video to watch but in the end the kid has no one to blame but himself. In the end the kid has no one to blame but himself... You're trying to read the thugs mind having the luxury to replay the video many times in the comfort of your mom's basement. The hardworking asian has to make a split second decision before being turned into another curb stomping ground meat. I can tell your biased by your display name. You are Asian I assume? Anyway It was excessive force and you know it. If he just hung out in that corner the kid would have grabbed a few things and left and both their lives wouldn't have been ruined forever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79044425 United States 08/05/2022 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be. Quoting: J-Bird However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. What do y'all think? https://twitter.com/_/status/1555610270256562176 I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are. That's all that matters is the law right? Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing. Bullshit, steal from me and if you are in my home, and are a threat to me and my family. You will not walk out of my home. PERIOD. 1 less POS walking the earth as far as I'm concerned. Home invasion is always a violent crime even if they don't have a weapon. If I understand nevada correctly burglary without a weapon is a property crime. So if these guys didn't have weapons or threatened they had them this might be a problem. I could be wrong. I just read laws in nevada for a couple minutes. Burglary is breaking into a premises on the assumption its empty....what you say on the vid is robbery.... |
RestoreTheAnger
User ID: 83968805 United States 08/05/2022 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once that robber jumped over the counter towards the store owner, his intentions could have been to kill him. The store owner stopped an immediate threat. Quoting: Rubyskyeye If you notice that shop keeper grabbed that knife before that kid jumped over. He was going to go after #1 Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80234974 United States 08/05/2022 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 on 1 Quoting: KipKat Robbers don't rob the store by just asking friendly, you can assume they were armed. Store owner probably had to deal with (armed) robberies many times before. Not guilty. I don't think you can just assume someone robbing your store is armed unless it's part of the state's castle doctrine. Pretty sure in Nevada your castle is only your house and vehicle. Place of business is the same as your home or car, dumbo. |
BadProgBad
User ID: 80240889 United States 08/05/2022 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Defender is not expected to have xray vision to know if thug has gun hidden in pocket or not. Forced entry is enough for defender to fear for his life and react accordingly. Quoting: Weyoun All thugs and thug defenders (including in this thread) do not belong in civilized society. You mention "civilized society". You mean like, Saudi Arabia or Iran? That's the kind of "civilized society" you dream of? You're a barbaric animal that has no respect for liberty or our constitution. I don't want to live around people who think DEATH is the consequence of stealing. That's fucking insane. Life, Liberty, and Property. You cannot reap the fruits of your freedom if any of these are taken away. Which is what the 2nd amendment is for. Don't like it? Take it up with our founders. All enemies, foreign and domestic. |