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Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One...

 
Weyoun

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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801


If he threatens you with harm you can absolutely take their life in most states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81391794


It it a natural right to defend your self. The gubbermint might persecute you and violate your right, but it is still your right.
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Many thugs and thug defenders are upset they didn't get to see another asian getting head stomped.
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Unless the punishment for theft because the death sentence... you all have to see this as wrong


The shop owner was not physically threaten. He certainly did not have to stab him multiple times till he was dead. Its just wrong

It appears the intention of the clerk was to kill

If we allow this then every child who might steal a candy bar could risk their life.
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Reasonable force not any.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74979867


Okay, so we won't drop any nukes.
 Quoting: BFD


Nope you only do that to Japan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74979867


Should of been tokyo also
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Would have been pointless, more than a quarter of Tokyo had already been burned to the ground. Operation Meetinghouse, of March, 1945, killed over 100,000, wounded more than 125,000.
They needed an untouched city to see what the bomb would do.
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Perp got what he deserved !
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what the fuck are you people talking about?

yes the fucking dude deserved to get the shit stabbed out of him

play stupid games win stupid prizes

mother fuckers really out here gettin real bold but forgetting this is the way the world works... this is more like a fucking reality check in this crazy ass 2022 world

hopefully more of this shit starts happening and mother fuckers realize stealing can lead to getting yourself killed.. maybe then these scumbags will think twice

yall gettin programmed to just be fucking victims and it shows
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51292729


It literally sounded like a 14 year old white kid. You could tell by the voice it wasn't some hardened black criminal and they were unarmed. So many blood thirsty people on this forum.

Having said that, play stupid games win stupid prizes. I have no sympathy for victim but based on the video it looks like a clear case of excessive force.
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Many thugs and thug defenders are upset they didn't get to see another asian getting head stomped.
 Quoting: Weyoun


They're white trash, I don't think they would have stomped him.

That seems to be exclusive to the Basketball Americans.
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Unless the punishment for theft because the death sentence... you all have to see this as wrong

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82524639


The penalty for rape isn't death either.

So its wrong for a woman to use lethal force to stop such an attacker...right?
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Unless the punishment for theft because the death sentence... you all have to see this as wrong


The shop owner was not physically threaten. He certainly did not have to stab him multiple times till he was dead. Its just wrong

It appears the intention of the clerk was to kill

If we allow this then every child who might steal a candy bar could risk their life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82524639


hesright
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Morally justified, but the law will come down hard on shopkeeper. From an “aggression” standpoint, the shopkeeper struck the thief first, and with lethal force at that.

If our laws simply recognized this jackass trespassed and was clearly taking advantage of the shopkeepers wellbeing, and even safety, then robbery wouldn’t be so prevalent.
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I have no pity for hoodlums who think they are entitled to just snatch and grab for a living.

Just ask NDFarm - there are plenty of "high paying" jobs out there.

chuckle

No. No pity for that thief. He got swift justice.

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I completely support the shop owners.

That POS was "dead" long before he attempted to harm others.

Sad, but true.

I would have done the same thing and felt no regret.
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what the fuck are you people talking about?

yes the fucking dude deserved to get the shit stabbed out of him

play stupid games win stupid prizes

mother fuckers really out here gettin real bold but forgetting this is the way the world works... this is more like a fucking reality check in this crazy ass 2022 world

hopefully more of this shit starts happening and mother fuckers realize stealing can lead to getting yourself killed.. maybe then these scumbags will think twice

yall gettin programmed to just be fucking victims and it shows
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51292729


It literally sounded like a 14 year old white kid. You could tell by the voice it wasn't some hardened black criminal and they were unarmed. So many blood thirsty people on this forum.

Having said that, play stupid games win stupid prizes. I have no sympathy for victim but based on the video it looks like a clear case of excessive force.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81572619


How is someone going to know if a person is a "hardened criminal" or not? How is that guy supposed to know he didn't have a weapon on him and was going to use it the first chance he got?

That dumbass forfeited his life the second he jumped over that counter. He was in the process of committing a felony and because of that Castle Doctrine immediately went into effect.
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Like many of you I'm shocked the store owner was unarmed and running a convenience store in Nevada. It's a miracle he's alive. He did what he had to do.
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Unless the punishment for theft because the death sentence... you all have to see this as wrong


The shop owner was not physically threaten. He certainly did not have to stab him multiple times till he was dead. Its just wrong

It appears the intention of the clerk was to kill

If we allow this then every child who might steal a candy bar could risk their life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82524639


If i stole a candy bar as a child, i would be more afraid of what my dad would do to me than being stabbed by store owner.

The store owner reasonably feared for his life. With his back against the wall, he faced off a charging thug violently forcing its way past the only barrier protecting him. If weren't for his quick reaction, he could've been the victim in the next head stomping video.
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Depends what the thief is stealing, if it's basic food to survive then stabbing or shooting them over it would be pretty shitty in my opinion.

If it's high value stuff or cigarettes and booze then frankly they're asking for it.
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Unless the punishment for theft because the death sentence... you all have to see this as wrong


The shop owner was not physically threaten. He certainly did not have to stab him multiple times till he was dead. Its just wrong

It appears the intention of the clerk was to kill

If we allow this then every child who might steal a candy bar could risk their life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82524639


hesright
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Bullshit.
There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth!
If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South.
We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid;
We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade.

:78g:
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what the fuck are you people talking about?

yes the fucking dude deserved to get the shit stabbed out of him

play stupid games win stupid prizes

mother fuckers really out here gettin real bold but forgetting this is the way the world works... this is more like a fucking reality check in this crazy ass 2022 world

hopefully more of this shit starts happening and mother fuckers realize stealing can lead to getting yourself killed.. maybe then these scumbags will think twice

yall gettin programmed to just be fucking victims and it shows
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51292729


It literally sounded like a 14 year old white kid. You could tell by the voice it wasn't some hardened black criminal and they were unarmed. So many blood thirsty people on this forum.

Having said that, play stupid games win stupid prizes. I have no sympathy for victim but based on the video it looks like a clear case of excessive force.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81572619


How is someone going to know if a person is a "hardened criminal" or not? How is that guy supposed to know he didn't have a weapon on him and was going to use it the first chance he got?

That dumbass forfeited his life the second he jumped over that counter. He was in the process of committing a felony and because of that Castle Doctrine immediately went into effect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77938233

hesright
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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


ZEDS DED.....sorry op...I can't find a single giv-a-fuck...not one.

Now depending on whether this was in some liberal hellhole the store owner will probably get charged as it appeared it was just a snatch and grab shoplifting situation but as I said, fuck the dead punk...
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I have no pity for hoodlums who think they are entitled to just snatch and grab for a living.

Just ask NDFarm - there are plenty of "high paying" jobs out there.

chuckle

No. No pity for that thief. He got swift justice.
 Quoting: Eireann


You're missing the point too.

It's not the stealing, it's the whole jumping over the counter with a ski mask on thing.

If they broke in after hours and got caught on security camera, they would have just been charged and they could deal with that.

This was strong arm robbery like the other guy said.

It's a wildcard and someone that wants to go home to their life and family doesn't have to take that risk, period.
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The only good thief is a dead thief. No sympathy whatsoever. In fact, we need more of this so the lowlife scum think twice before doing stupid shit.
 Quoting: SaveApu


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The shop owner must have thought he was still in his place of birth where that kind of response is okay.

He deserves the same sentence as whatever Paul Pelosi gets for his second DUI with injury plus five years. IOW, a five year sentence.
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Go and jump over the counter at the Police Station and see what happens.
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Many thugs and thug defenders are upset they didn't get to see another asian getting head stomped.
 Quoting: Weyoun


They're white trash, I don't think they would have stomped him.

That seems to be exclusive to the Basketball Americans.
 Quoting: BFD


Store owner doesn't have the luxury to hire an anthropologist to research out the thug's cultural background while being charged.
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Reasonable force not any.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74979867


Okay, so we won't drop any nukes.
 Quoting: BFD


Nope you only do that to Japan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74979867


We already did 2x and they piped down real quick, no?
 Quoting: BFD


I know.. Can you not read? I said you only do that to japan
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How fucking pathetic, that you spend your young life as a criminal and then cry out "I'm dead!" When you get the justice you deserve. Of course you're dead. You were dead before you came to this shop, and now we're sending you out of this world, you fucking worthless POS.

People are sick of this shit.
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Don't do the crime if you can't do the knife!
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Just like most of these circle jerk wild west kill the bad guy threads on this site most people fail to realize there are two questions:

1. do you personally have a problem with what happened, and

2. was what happened legal?

Most of you don't seem to have any problem with what the store owner did and that's fine.

But then you jump into your internet lawyer shoes spouting off all sorts of pseudo legal nonsense.

Listen, killing someone robbing your store is a risky legal proposition if they didn't pull a gun or knife on you. We've seen plenty of videos in CA where the robbers don't have weapons.

Even if it's justified you could spend hundreds of thousands in legal bills to save a thousand dollars in merchandise.

Your store is not your home in most states. You cannot defend property with lethal force in most states.

I strongly suggest you take a self defense class in your state.

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The shop owner must have thought he was still in his place of birth where that kind of response is okay.

He deserves the same sentence as whatever Paul Pelosi gets for his second DUI with injury plus five years. IOW, a five year sentence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83953088


Are you that afraid the same thing is going to happen to you?
If you are, stop robbing stores.
There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth!
If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South.
We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid;
We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade.

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Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be.

However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. verysad

What do y'all think?


 Quoting: J-Bird


I'm no way justified in the northeast but I guess we'll see what Nevada laws are.

That's all that matters is the law right?


Otherwise it should be common sense you don't murder someone for stealing.
 Quoting: Mike 83294801


If he threatens you with harm you can absolutely take their life in most states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81391794


When you are in an adrenaline rush defending your life there is no way in most cases you could asses deadly force. He could have stoped before the last stab in the neck, but his adrenaline is so high at that point he can't really assess that, he's in a semi trance. This has been shown over and over in court cases. He isn't killing him out of malice. Any Judge that would hold him responsible for that is a nutbag.





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