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Why did Jesus

 
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why did he say these things?


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And the plan which they devised about me to release their Error and their senselessness - I did not succumb to them as they had planned. But I was not afflicted at all. Those who were there punished me. And I did not die in reality but in appearance [...]

For my death, which they think happened, (happened) to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death.[...]

It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. [...] it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon Whom they placed the crown of thorns. But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the archons and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance.
[...]
"

- The Second Treatise of the Great Seth


"
The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."

But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place."

But he said to me, "I have told you, 'Leave the blind alone!'. And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."
"

- Coptic Apocalypse of Peter


"And they also praise people who preach this falsehood, people who will come after you. They will hold on to the name of a dead man, thinking that in this way they will become pure, but instead they will become more and more defiled. They will fall into a name of error and into the hand of an evil deceiver with complicated doctrines, and they will be dominated by heresy.

[...]”For look, those who will bring judgment on themselves are approaching and will put themselves to shame. They cannot touch me. Peter, you will stand in their midst, but don’t be afraid, though you are fainthearted. Their understanding will be gone, for the invisible one has taken a stand against them.”

When he said this, I saw him apparently being arrested by them. I said, “What do I see, Lord? Is it really you they are seizing, and are you holding on to me? And who is the one smiling and laughing above the cross? Is it someone else whose feet and hands they are hammering?”

The Savior said to me, “The one you see smiling and laughing above the cross is the living Jesus. The one into whose hands and feet they are driving nails is his fleshly part, the substitute for him. They are putting to shame the one who came into being in the likeness of the living Jesus. Look at him and look at me.”[...]
"

- The Revelation of Peter


"
The master appeared to him. He stopped praying, embraced him, and kissed him, saying, “Rabbi, I’ve found you. I heard of the sufferings you endured, and I was greatly troubled. [...] They must be judged for what they have done, for what they have done is not right.”

The master said, “James, do not be concerned for me or these people. I am the one who was within me. Never did I suffer at all, and I was not distressed. These people did not harm me. Rather, all this was inflicted upon a figure of the rulers, and it was fitting that this figure should be [destroyed] by them.
"
- The First Revelation of James



and why did the Quran say this?

“And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We killed Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God,’ – but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Jesus was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not.

Surah 4:157
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78086396

You’re quoting the Quran? There is only one way to eternal life, One way. That is Jesus Christ who was God in the flesh! He died for you for the erasure of your sins. He did so freely, Christ Jesus is your greatest ally and loves you more than anyone, there is no greater love!

Do not entertain manmade religions from the literal pits of hell that lead only to destruction, these are from Satan to deceive and steal souls. Jesus is, was, and always will be.


I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
John 6:51



So Jesus again said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture.
John 10:7,9

I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
John 10:11

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
Psalm 23:1



The price has already been paid for you.
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why did he say these things?


"
And the plan which they devised about me to release their Error and their senselessness - I did not succumb to them as they had planned. But I was not afflicted at all. Those who were there punished me. And I did not die in reality but in appearance [...]

For my death, which they think happened, (happened) to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death.[...]

It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. [...] it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon Whom they placed the crown of thorns. But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the archons and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance.
[...]
"

- The Second Treatise of the Great Seth


"
The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."

But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place."

But he said to me, "I have told you, 'Leave the blind alone!'. And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."
"

- Coptic Apocalypse of Peter


"And they also praise people who preach this falsehood, people who will come after you. They will hold on to the name of a dead man, thinking that in this way they will become pure, but instead they will become more and more defiled. They will fall into a name of error and into the hand of an evil deceiver with complicated doctrines, and they will be dominated by heresy.

[...]”For look, those who will bring judgment on themselves are approaching and will put themselves to shame. They cannot touch me. Peter, you will stand in their midst, but don’t be afraid, though you are fainthearted. Their understanding will be gone, for the invisible one has taken a stand against them.”

When he said this, I saw him apparently being arrested by them. I said, “What do I see, Lord? Is it really you they are seizing, and are you holding on to me? And who is the one smiling and laughing above the cross? Is it someone else whose feet and hands they are hammering?”

The Savior said to me, “The one you see smiling and laughing above the cross is the living Jesus. The one into whose hands and feet they are driving nails is his fleshly part, the substitute for him. They are putting to shame the one who came into being in the likeness of the living Jesus. Look at him and look at me.”[...]
"

- The Revelation of Peter


"
The master appeared to him. He stopped praying, embraced him, and kissed him, saying, “Rabbi, I’ve found you. I heard of the sufferings you endured, and I was greatly troubled. [...] They must be judged for what they have done, for what they have done is not right.”

The master said, “James, do not be concerned for me or these people. I am the one who was within me. Never did I suffer at all, and I was not distressed. These people did not harm me. Rather, all this was inflicted upon a figure of the rulers, and it was fitting that this figure should be [destroyed] by them.
"
- The First Revelation of James



and why did the Quran say this?

“And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We killed Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God,’ – but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Jesus was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not.

Surah 4:157
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78086396

You’re quoting the Quran? There is only one way to eternal life, One way. That is Jesus Christ who was God in the flesh! He died for you for the erasure of your sins. He did so freely, Christ Jesus is your greatest ally and loves you more than anyone, there is no greater love!

Do not entertain manmade religions from the literal pits of hell that lead only to destruction, these are from Satan to deceive and steal souls. Jesus is, was, and always will be.


I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
John 6:51



So Jesus again said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture.
John 10:7,9

I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
John 10:11

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
Psalm 23:1



The price has already been paid for you.
 Quoting: Seek^


I like to broaden my understanding.

they never killed Jesus.
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GOD IS LOVE

THAT IS

THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING



IN THIS LOVE

THERE IS NO DEATH

EVER

THEREFORE

NO ONE CAN KILL JESUS CHRIST
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I like to broaden my understanding.

they never killed Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78086396

Why waste time reading satanic filth? Your time is limited, stay in God’s holy word and pray. Seek His wisdom and gain real, priceless understanding.



For the LORD gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding
Proverbs 2:6


The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding.
Proverbs 4:7


How much better to get wisdom than gold, to get insight rather than silver!
Proverbs 16:16


The one who gets wisdom loves life; the one who cherishes understanding will soon prosper.
Proverbs 19:8


Where there is strife, there is pride, but wisdom is found in those who take advice.
Proverbs 13:10


The mouths of the righteous utter wisdom, and their tongues speak what is just.
Psalm 37:30


The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 1:7


Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you; love her, and she will watch over you.
Proverbs 4:6


To the person who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
Ecclesiastes 2:26


It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.
1 Corinthians 1:30


But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.
James 3:17


My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
Colossians 2:2-3

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Re: Why did Jesus
say He would raise His own body up after three days?
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Well, let's see... He died on Good for nuthin' Friday, still dead Saturday, that's one day. Then, came "Where'd he go" Sunday, that's 2. Then the aliens brought him back, all fixed him up on Monday! That's 3 days!



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I like to broaden my understanding.

they never killed Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78086396

Why waste time reading satanic filth? Your time is limited, stay in God’s holy word and pray. Seek His wisdom and gain real, priceless understanding.



For the LORD gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding
Proverbs 2:6


The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding.
Proverbs 4:7


How much better to get wisdom than gold, to get insight rather than silver!
Proverbs 16:16


The one who gets wisdom loves life; the one who cherishes understanding will soon prosper.
Proverbs 19:8


Where there is strife, there is pride, but wisdom is found in those who take advice.
Proverbs 13:10


The mouths of the righteous utter wisdom, and their tongues speak what is just.
Psalm 37:30


The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 1:7


Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you; love her, and she will watch over you.
Proverbs 4:6


To the person who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
Ecclesiastes 2:26


It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.
1 Corinthians 1:30


But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.
James 3:17


My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
Colossians 2:2-3
 Quoting: Seek^


you're pathetic. and you're in for a surprise.
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Why did Jesus say,

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:28


Who was Jesus referring to above regarding whom to fear?

It was Himself.



And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 20:11-15

Knowing that the Father does not judge—

For the Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.
John 5:22-23



God referred to above judging on the Great White Throne is Jesus. When Jesus said to fear him who can throw both body and soul into hell in Matthew 10:28 above, He was referring to himself.


Jesus is God as is the Father and the Holy Spirit as all makeup the Godhead.
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Because He is One
Doesn't anybody feel that all these killers should be killed, and all these healers should be healed, so all of these beggars can be filled...

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