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School District has put an AR-15 in a safe in every school in the county so the guns can be accessed for classroom defense in case of attack.

 
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Why stop at aR15s

I say put a damn tank in front of the school

:)

And a fighter jet
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Why stop at aR15s

I say put a damn tank in front of the school

:)

And a fighter jet
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just make the kids wear full Kevlar!
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You know society has gone into the shitter when people have to debate about how to protect children.
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You know society has gone into the shitter when people have to debate about how to protect children.
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word. now they want AR's in school to protect kids but at the same time they invite transsexual predators to tell their kids they can be any gender they want...

something isnt right
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clappa
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:clappatrump:
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You know society has gone into the shitter when people have to debate about how to protect children.
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:fact:
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Re: School District has put an AR-15 in a safe in every school in the county so the guns can be accessed for classroom defense in case of attack.
If you got veterans or trained LE among your staff, why the hell wouldn't you? An ARs not a demon machine, it's not even the best semiautomatic rifle with the ability to be rigged tactically.

If we're being honest, the H&K 416 is styled after the AR, but puts everyone else in the AR community to shame. And to be frank, I'd trade an AR for AK47. Far less accurate, true. But, they're durable. They don't need pampering. And that 7.62 will smash a concrete block at 100M. Sure, you're only good to 300M, if you're lucky, but in a real TSHTF scenario how often are you going to engage out beyond 300M, hell, 100M?

As for CQB? The Russians and Chinese make it work.
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You know society has gone into the shitter when people have to debate about how to protect children.
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:fact:
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FTW-GLP11
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Re: School District has put an AR-15 in a safe in every school in the county so the guns can be accessed for classroom defense in case of attack.
Question: What was the first real school shooting? Talking grade school, middle, high school where the shooter targets innocent kids.

I cant remember, but way back when I was in school there were no events like this.

The Texas Tower Sniper event in 66 seemed to be the first open-air public shooting, but when did the K-12 shootings start?
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Columbine, maybe? I will get flamed for this but..........I really think the shoot em up video games that the kids immerse themselves in is contributing to this. Nutcases are unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality.
I'll agree to be "woke" when they wake up from their stupor.
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Question: What was the first real school shooting? Talking grade school, middle, high school where the shooter targets innocent kids.

I cant remember, but way back when I was in school there were no events like this.

The Texas Tower Sniper event in 66 seemed to be the first open-air public shooting, but when did the K-12 shootings start?
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1927 there was worst event it was a bombing.
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Question: What was the first real school shooting? Talking grade school, middle, high school where the shooter targets innocent kids.

I cant remember, but way back when I was in school there were no events like this.

The Texas Tower Sniper event in 66 seemed to be the first open-air public shooting, but when did the K-12 shootings start?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83518965


Columbine, maybe? I will get flamed for this but..........I really think the shoot em up video games that the kids immerse themselves in is contributing to this. Nutcases are unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality.
 Quoting: Skorpio


Goth generation, Satanic, more and more anti depressants, violent video games, Clinton presidency, mix in a little Mk Ultra.

Makes sense.
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Re: School District has put an AR-15 in a safe in every school in the county so the guns can be accessed for classroom defense in case of attack.
Just hire a couple ex military guys and hand them each a rifle .
PUt them in the room with all the video monitors.

If a bad guy shows up, they step out and take care of business.

Just putting weapons in a safe could go wrong. What if nobody is working that knows how to handle a weapon? And you have the built in delay while they all draw straws to see who gets the weapon, and then they have to open the safe and check out the weapon to make sure it is loaded etc.

Nonsense. Hire a couple vets! They will keep their weapons shiny clean and ready to rock the moment they are needed. And they have been trained by the best.
 Quoting: JustmeTX


Shit like this sort of what if worry wart stuff is what got us to where we are now.

Muh only qualified people can defend themselves and others...

You know that actual real world events prove you dead wrong right?

The Indy mall shooter got dropped by a 22 year old from 41 yards away with a fucking glock and he dumped 10 shots got 6 hits and zeroed dude out almost immediately!

Let's compare that to nypd which has had several instances of multiple cops firing 76 rounds from their pistols at less than 10 yards, hitting the bad guy ZERO TIMES, but managing to hit other cops and MULTIPLE BYSTANDERS!

look it up there's also an incident involving 47 rounds that had similar outcomes and even some other ones I don't have memorized.

Turns out when you're scared you're fucking motivated!

Way more motivated than "armed professionals"

Your average 12 year old boy has more than enough strength and dexterity to charge and run an AR15 and I'd say about 90% of 12 year old boys even know where the charging handle is and how to grip and rip it from video games and movies.

Hell there's plenty of 10 year olds who can worst comes to worst pick up a weapon and make it work!

This is the awesome thing about the AR15, it doesn't take a trained professional to operate especially once the adrenaline dump kicks your strength and motivation up to 11.

I fully support this move and am low key disgusted by the reaction it's getting here and all the second guessing and hand wringing I'm seeing.
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Question: What was the first real school shooting? Talking grade school, middle, high school where the shooter targets innocent kids.

I cant remember, but way back when I was in school there were no events like this.

The Texas Tower Sniper event in 66 seemed to be the first open-air public shooting, but when did the K-12 shootings start?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83518965


Columbine, maybe? I will get flamed for this but..........I really think the shoot em up video games that the kids immerse themselves in is contributing to this. Nutcases are unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality.
 Quoting: Skorpio


You're just entirely wrong. Until extremely recently violence has been way down in America...

Like abnormally low (pro tip the countries that CLAIM lower murder rates than we had in say 2016 are outright doing their stats differently. If you calculated their numbers the way American numbers are calculated there's very few places ON EARTH with lower murder rates than the US had)

We always get beat with this muh violent crime rates in Europe are so much lower bullshit too which is just an outright lie!

Have you ever walked into an American bar that had public service announcement posters telling people not to beat up ambulance personnel that show up at the bar to treat the injured?

Because there was a nationwide campaign a couple years ago in England that plastered those posters in EVERY BAR IN ENGLAND!

Things you will be labeled a violent felon and go to prison for as much as a decade in America aren't even really considered crimes in a lot of places.

Folks need to wake up, they are being lied to so much more than they think they are and it's unfortunately working all too well as can be seen by all the hand wringing and muh qualified veterans whining in this thread.
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Those are probably for the IRS agents, I don 't trust them.
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At least they're doing something. BUT now you have breaching equipment, an extra gun and plenty of extra ammo available for the bad guy.
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Re: School District has put an AR-15 in a safe in every school in the county so the guns can be accessed for classroom defense in case of attack.
Advertising this is somewhat retarded, unless they are very very good safes, which I doubt.
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It doesn't matter because they advertised they also have breaching tools for the safe or I mean the door. It sounds like someone can break on and take the safe now something. He should have just kept the specifics quiet.
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Re: School District has put an AR-15 in a safe in every school in the county so the guns can be accessed for classroom defense in case of attack.
If you got veterans or trained LE among your staff, why the hell wouldn't you? An ARs not a demon machine, it's not even the best semiautomatic rifle with the ability to be rigged tactically.

If we're being honest, the H&K 416 is styled after the AR, but puts everyone else in the AR community to shame. And to be frank, I'd trade an AR for AK47. Far less accurate, true. But, they're durable. They don't need pampering. And that 7.62 will smash a concrete block at 100M. Sure, you're only good to 300M, if you're lucky, but in a real TSHTF scenario how often are you going to engage out beyond 300M, hell, 100M?

As for CQB? The Russians and Chinese make it work.
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Lol... The 416 is a 10 pound hype beast not the best AR on the market.

You can even get the Gucci steel barrels like hk uses through Daniel defense and a couple other American companies.

I have an AR that full up including light laser optic and outright better parts than hk uses across the board which still costs less than an MR556 (closest thing you can get to a 416 without buying grey market parts) that COSTS and WEIGHS LESS fully kitted out than a naked mr556!

+1 on the AK love though, I do love my commie Tommy's
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lol how would this work practically?

someone would have to run to the specific room of the safe and would have to be the one or one of few who know how to open it?
then have time to load it and go back to somehow take down the shooter?

it sounds good/weird, but is it practical?

seeing how its 2022 i assume a woman would operate the ar 15?
you dont want some macho gun lover playing rambo obviously

chuckle

man what a weird/sad time we live in.
arnt AR 15 the number one bad thing in America these days?

what about a shotgun with beanbags?

chuckle

and breaching tools...

i remember most of my teacher were over weight small elder (great) people.

how long before one of these AR's will be used for a school shooting?
 Quoting: T-Man



Yeah I understand protection, but an AR-15 in schools seems like it's a little bit over the top!

Just My Opinion Though!
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At least they're doing something. BUT now you have breaching equipment, an extra gun and plenty of extra ammo available for the bad guy.
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You're not going to breach a gun safe with a halligan and battering ram lol.

It'll pop most doors with ease but is entirely useless on safes and I highly doubt they sprung for something like the thermite breach pens I have a few of.
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Question: What was the first real school shooting? Talking grade school, middle, high school where the shooter targets innocent kids.

I cant remember, but way back when I was in school there were no events like this.

The Texas Tower Sniper event in 66 seemed to be the first open-air public shooting, but when did the K-12 shootings start?
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Under the Clinton's watch.
 Quoting: Johnny Moonlight


How many school shootings did we have when the economy was better or when maybe trump was in office? It just seems like there is real correlation.
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no good in a safe if the person with the key is off site or dead from a gun shot wound
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no good in a safe if the person with the key is off site or dead from a gun shot wound
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It's hooked up to Alexa. The password is HEY ALEXA Let's Go Brandon.
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North Carolina’s Madison County School District has put an AR-15 in a safe in every school in the county so the guns can be accessed for classroom defense in case of attack.

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Uvalde had OVER 300 armed Officers, many with automatic weapons IN THEIR HANDS, and you see what good that DIDN'T do.

sigh


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they weren't at risk

funny how a little real danger can motivate you to act

i can see it going wrong too and someone going all rambo and spraying bullets everywhere and killing kids

like i said above, much prefer a couple armed vets in the schools
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I gaurantee you they are so stupid they haven't even colored their AR-15's to something highly visible so they don't start shooting each other when nothing happens, as it never has.

shooter will guard 1 armor cabinet and pretend to be on the other side, and the idiots will be friendly firing like no tomorrow.


better spraypaint your shit dumbasses
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Advertising this is somewhat retarded, unless they are very very good safes, which I doubt.
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imagine if everyone working there has to know the key location, or code.
i cant even imagine how unsafe this might be
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Imagine if a teacher loses it and decides to go postal himself, then what?
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Advertising this is somewhat retarded, unless they are very very good safes, which I doubt.
 Quoting: Jolly_Roger


imagine if everyone working there has to know the key location, or code.
i cant even imagine how unsafe this might be
 Quoting: T-Man


Imagine if a teacher loses it and decides to go postal himself, then what?
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There's been guns in ALL UTAH SCHOOLS since shortly after columbine and this hasn't happened ONCE.

You guys are doing the evil ones work for them.

Quit being so afraid of inanimate objects and stop thinking the absolute worst of everyone.

This conversation shows how they have gotten us to where we are.
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Advertising this is somewhat retarded, unless they are very very good safes, which I doubt.
 Quoting: Jolly_Roger


imagine if everyone working there has to know the key location, or code.
i cant even imagine how unsafe this might be
 Quoting: T-Man


Imagine if a teacher loses it and decides to go postal himself, then what?
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many more reasons why this could go wrong rather than well. lol
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Thumb access drawer in the teacher's desk for elementary

Code access safe in every janitor closet in every wing, everywhere else
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At least they're doing something. BUT now you have breaching equipment, an extra gun and plenty of extra ammo available for the bad guy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62008839


You're not going to breach a gun safe with a halligan and battering ram lol.

It'll pop most doors with ease but is entirely useless on safes and I highly doubt they sprung for something like the thermite breach pens I have a few of.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


You won't need to after you get the key from the principal's office.

Also, good luck breaching an outward opening door in a steel frame with a Halligan tool, especially if there is no window or a reinforced wire window on the door. School classroom doors should all be outward opening.

Just saying that having the tools on site for a murderer is a catch-22.
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Teachers, lunch room staff, janitors, the Principle should all be Open Carry.

The more responsible people with ready-for-use firearms, the better. It's kind of a war out there, a guerrilla war.

Careful out there.

yeahsure
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i'm an ar enthusiast, but a 5 round shotgun with slugs
would be extremely effective.
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Cops won't seem to do anything about it for an hour or so.....so why not





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