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Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)

 
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SO where do u stand man?? Hand of forehead or hand under chin?? cos u all over the place.

We support the fact that under chin was the original then it went to forehead a few years ago, now its back to under chin.

yodayoda
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It never went to the forehead.

It's just that people with huge egoes refuse to admit their memory was wrong.

As simple and stupid as that
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


Then why are those kids doing the forehead pose?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78135041


If you actually read my posts you would know

These kids didn't look at the statue. They simply took the pose they ASSUME a thinker would.


 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


sure.. kids visiting a specific statue with their teacher don't look at it... when was the last you were a kid?
Can you remember not looking at new things when you were a kid?
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I'm still open to see an actual proof of ME, but all I see so far are proofs that most humans assume constantly and refuse to admit their assumptions could be wrong.

This picture in particular shows exactly that, how most people assume someone thinking would pose.

That's all it shows. The reality of the statue itself is immutable and doesn't care about people's assumptions
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SO where do u stand man?? Hand of forehead or hand under chin?? cos u all over the place.

We support the fact that under chin was the original then it went to forehead a few years ago, now its back to under chin.

yodayoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78135041


It never went to the forehead.

It's just that people with huge egoes refuse to admit their memory was wrong.

As simple and stupid as that
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


Then why are those kids doing the forehead pose?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78135041


If you actually read my posts you would know

These kids didn't look at the statue. They simply took the pose they ASSUME a thinker would.

Another proof that that's the natural pose most humans would take to support their head when thinking.

Hand on chin is more of a "dramatic" thinking pose. It's an exaggerated one, that you often see in comics or theater or paintings. Like with this statue.

But in case you didn't notice it, people in comic books or statues don't have "natural" poses. They have dramatic exaggerated ones.

It's especially clear in classical sculptures. No normal human would ever pose like these statues in real life. It's more like theater.
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


You post so much to debunk this! You certainly are invested, in conveying a particular viewpoint to as many people as possible...
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It never went to the forehead.

It's just that people with huge egoes refuse to admit their memory was wrong.

As simple and stupid as that
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


Then why are those kids doing the forehead pose?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78135041


If you actually read my posts you would know

These kids didn't look at the statue. They simply took the pose they ASSUME a thinker would.


 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


sure.. kids visiting a specific statue with their teacher don't look at it... when was the last you were a kid?
Can you remember not looking at new things when you were a kid?
 Quoting: JADR+


Then way are they posing wrong?

Oh yes, somehow it's more likely there are different timelines than the students assuming incorrectly.

Lol
gooby pls
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Explain to me very clearly how that's any less delusional than the group that can no longer define what a woman is.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


Mandela effect(whatever the phenomenon is) based on observations - reported by millions of geographically separate people from different cultures.
The observation I reported above is quite a common one, anyone who ever got interested in the topic report it too.
I don't pretend to know the reason why it's like that - observations should never be discounted because they don't fit with the established paradigm.

Even if it is mass delusion - it's still a phenomenon which needs to be studied.

Gender theory, on the other hand is post modern Marxism taught in academia, and financed and promoted by the world economic forum, BlackRock and the main stream media.
Gender theory runs contrary to all observable facts.
 Quoting: JADR+


I wouldn't say it's mass delusion as much as mass ignorance.

However, you can see a group of kids emulating the statue in the wrong way. Instead of thinking something happened to change the statue, realize the statue has never changed. Now explain the kids' behavior. Delusion? Possibly.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


People like you intrigue me.

You can be so SURE of a fallacy.

I grew up in the '60's, when EDUCATION actually was just that. We were EDUCATED, not BABYSAT.

In the 7th grade, children took an ART EDUCATION class.

We STUDIED famous artworks and their creators.

We had to sketch these artworks, and we were graded on our accuracy.

I know for a FACT, from STUDY, that Rodin's sculpture had a CLENCHED FIST under the chin.

RODIN HIMSELF SAYS THE SAME!!!

As Rodin himself described: "What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."

Explain to us where the CLENCHED FIST is, in this current sculpture.

As I have said on this forum before,

Rodin's The Thinker is the best example of a Mandela Effect, because its CREATOR describes it as being DIFFERENT than it currently is.
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It never went to the forehead.

It's just that people with huge egoes refuse to admit their memory was wrong.

As simple and stupid as that
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


Then why are those kids doing the forehead pose?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78135041


If you actually read my posts you would know

These kids didn't look at the statue. They simply took the pose they ASSUME a thinker would.

Another proof that that's the natural pose most humans would take to support their head when thinking.

Hand on chin is more of a "dramatic" thinking pose. It's an exaggerated one, that you often see in comics or theater or paintings. Like with this statue.

But in case you didn't notice it, people in comic books or statues don't have "natural" poses. They have dramatic exaggerated ones.

It's especially clear in classical sculptures. No normal human would ever pose like these statues in real life. It's more like theater.
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


You post so much to debunk this! You certainly are invested, in conveying a particular viewpoint to as many people as possible...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80869309


Sounds like projection. I only made a handful of posts on the subject, while Mandela theorists spend much more time and energy defending their beliefs.

I just shared the actual explanation for those interested. Not for the people like you who are so emotionally invested it's too late for them to admit being wrong.

It would just be too damaging for the ego
gooby pls
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Explain to me very clearly how that's any less delusional than the group that can no longer define what a woman is.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


Mandela effect(whatever the phenomenon is) based on observations - reported by millions of geographically separate people from different cultures.
The observation I reported above is quite a common one, anyone who ever got interested in the topic report it too.
I don't pretend to know the reason why it's like that - observations should never be discounted because they don't fit with the established paradigm.

Even if it is mass delusion - it's still a phenomenon which needs to be studied.

Gender theory, on the other hand is post modern Marxism taught in academia, and financed and promoted by the world economic forum, BlackRock and the main stream media.
Gender theory runs contrary to all observable facts.
 Quoting: JADR+


I wouldn't say it's mass delusion as much as mass ignorance.

However, you can see a group of kids emulating the statue in the wrong way. Instead of thinking something happened to change the statue, realize the statue has never changed. Now explain the kids' behavior. Delusion? Possibly.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


People like you intrigue me.

You can be so SURE of a fallacy.

I grew up in the '60's, when EDUCATION actually was just that. We were EDUCATED, not BABYSAT.

In the 7th grade, children took an ART EDUCATION class.

We STUDIED famous artworks and their creators.

We had to sketch these artworks, and we were graded on our accuracy.

I know for a FACT, from STUDY, that Rodin's sculpture had a CLENCHED FIST under the chin.

RODIN HIMSELF SAYS THE SAME!!!

As Rodin himself described: "What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."

Explain to us where the CLENCHED FIST is, in this current sculpture.

As I have said on this forum before,

Rodin's The Thinker is the best example of a Mandela Effect, because its CREATOR describes it as being DIFFERENT than it currently is.
 Quoting: tekman

Did Rodin speak English? Or is that a translation?
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https://imgur.com/Kl1nYeT


The simple heuristic which revises history does not seem to affect existing acts of free will.

[link to imgur.com (secure)]
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Just because a bunch of dummies can’t get the pose right that is supposed to prove something that doesn’t exist.

You Mandela Effect folks are special.
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Explain to me very clearly how that's any less delusional than the group that can no longer define what a woman is.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


Mandela effect(whatever the phenomenon is) based on observations - reported by millions of geographically separate people from different cultures.
The observation I reported above is quite a common one, anyone who ever got interested in the topic report it too.
I don't pretend to know the reason why it's like that - observations should never be discounted because they don't fit with the established paradigm.

Even if it is mass delusion - it's still a phenomenon which needs to be studied.

Gender theory, on the other hand is post modern Marxism taught in academia, and financed and promoted by the world economic forum, BlackRock and the main stream media.
Gender theory runs contrary to all observable facts.
 Quoting: JADR+


I wouldn't say it's mass delusion as much as mass ignorance.

However, you can see a group of kids emulating the statue in the wrong way. Instead of thinking something happened to change the statue, realize the statue has never changed. Now explain the kids' behavior. Delusion? Possibly.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


People like you intrigue me.

You can be so SURE of a fallacy.

I grew up in the '60's, when EDUCATION actually was just that. We were EDUCATED, not BABYSAT.

In the 7th grade, children took an ART EDUCATION class.

We STUDIED famous artworks and their creators.

We had to sketch these artworks, and we were graded on our accuracy.

I know for a FACT, from STUDY, that Rodin's sculpture had a CLENCHED FIST under the chin.

RODIN HIMSELF SAYS THE SAME!!!

As Rodin himself described: "What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."


 Quoting: tekman


Rodin was speaking French, not English.

Would you have an actual source for your quote? If you do, I would consider it a valid proof of ME, unlike the photo here.

Thank you.
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Then why are those kids doing the forehead pose?
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If you actually read my posts you would know

These kids didn't look at the statue. They simply took the pose they ASSUME a thinker would.

Another proof that that's the natural pose most humans would take to support their head when thinking.

Hand on chin is more of a "dramatic" thinking pose. It's an exaggerated one, that you often see in comics or theater or paintings. Like with this statue.

But in case you didn't notice it, people in comic books or statues don't have "natural" poses. They have dramatic exaggerated ones.

It's especially clear in classical sculptures. No normal human would ever pose like these statues in real life. It's more like theater.
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


You post so much to debunk this! You certainly are invested, in conveying a particular viewpoint to as many people as possible...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80869309


Sounds like projection. I only made a handful of posts on the subject, while Mandela theorists spend much more time and energy defending their beliefs.

I just shared the actual explanation for those interested. Not for the people like you who are so emotionally invested it's too late for them to admit being wrong.

It would just be too damaging for the ego
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


You must be correct then. Post more in this thread to show how little you care.

Lol. Honestly though, I do hope you get a good paycheck for it. Everyone got to get that paper ya know!
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What the heck
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Belief in the ME isof course correlated with people who are more assuming, with bigger egoes.

That's why to them the most simple, logical explanation to reality differing from their assumption/memory is different timelines, and not the way our brain works (taking shortcuts through assumptions).


What does it tell about these people they think it's more likely that people from different timelines exist in the same reality?

It says they have huge egoes.

Occam's razor prevails. Most likely is people brains taking shortcuts and refusing to admit it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83752823


The only one with ego here is you - based on the fact that you have never experienced the phenomenon, you assume that those who have are too stupid to have considered all other logical explanations.

Your lack of experience makes you take shortcuts. I can't blame you. How could you possibly imagine something you have never experienced?

One day though.. you may experience it, and then you'll remember all the arrogant ignorant posts you made about the topic.
 Quoting: JADR+


I experience incorrect memories all the time.

The difference between me and you is I don't need a multiverse theory to protect myself from the eventuality I could be wrong.

I welcome being wrong so I can learn and grow.

You prefer to encrust yourself in old beliefs, because it's more comfortable.

Soon you'll be a fossil if you keep refusing to reevaluate your beliefs constantly
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


You have not even started to think about this correctly.
We all experience incorrect memories. So what?
We're not talking about incorrect memories.
We're talking about ONE specific memory not matching reality that is shared by millions of people from different cultures, age groups an geographical locations.

And that's just the beginning of the phenomenon. There is much more to it ....

You're a clear example of the "Dunning-Kruger effect"
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Re: Mandela effect explained with one photo (nothing to do with AI, or Internet psy-ops)v: (UPDATED)
https://imgur.com/Kl1nYeT


The simple heuristic which revises history does not seem to affect existing acts of free will.

[link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: JADR+


Yes.

This photo explains and proves that the Mandela effect is 100% morons with bad memory or just plain stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80196381


So all those school kids on the photo aren't only morons with no memory, they also have shit in their eyes?

And you feel smart about your braindead theory?

Congratulation Einstein!!
 Quoting: JADR+


All Mandela effects can be explained by people taking an assumption their brain is making as an actual fact.

Ask anyone around you to take a "thinking" pose and most will put a hand on the forehead because it's what most ACTUALLY do.

Now ask them to mimic the thinker, 99% don't have photographic memory so they will simply take the pose they ASSUME the thinker would have.

All Mandela effects are assumptions and the ego refusing the admit it's just an assumption and not an actual photographic memory.

Same reason why people assume Beaten stein. Because -stein is a very common suffix in names while -stein is never seen. So the brain just think it cannot be correct.

Assumptions and ego

Give me any ME example and I'll deconstruct it for you based on assumptions people brains make (because we are wired to do it to think faster)
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As Rodin himself described: "What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."

Find a CLENCHED FIST on the current statue.

EXPLAIN how MY BRAIN"S ASSUMPTIONS made Rodin MISTAKENLY describe HIS OWN CREATION.

Now, do you see why The Thinker is a GREAT example of a Mandela Effect?

It just COMPLETELY DESTROYED your FEEBLE ATTEMPT at INTELLIGENT REASONING.
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are the photos doctored?
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Did Rodin speak English? Stop ducking the question
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are the photos doctored?
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No, people are just stupid and can't copy what's in front of them.
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Yes.

This photo explains and proves that the Mandela effect is 100% morons with bad memory or just plain stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80196381


So all those school kids on the photo aren't only morons with no memory, they also have shit in their eyes?

And you feel smart about your braindead theory?

Congratulation Einstein!!
 Quoting: JADR+


All Mandela effects can be explained by people taking an assumption their brain is making as an actual fact.

Ask anyone around you to take a "thinking" pose and most will put a hand on the forehead because it's what most ACTUALLY do.

Now ask them to mimic the thinker, 99% don't have photographic memory so they will simply take the pose they ASSUME the thinker would have.

All Mandela effects are assumptions and the ego refusing the admit it's just an assumption and not an actual photographic memory.

Same reason why people assume Beaten stein. Because -stein is a very common suffix in names while -stein is never seen. So the brain just think it cannot be correct.

Assumptions and ego

Give me any ME example and I'll deconstruct it for you based on assumptions people brains make (because we are wired to do it to think faster)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83752823


As Rodin himself described: "What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."

Find a CLENCHED FIST on the current statue.

EXPLAIN how MY BRAIN"S ASSUMPTIONS made Rodin MISTAKENLY describe HIS OWN CREATION.

Now, do you see why The Thinker is a GREAT example of a Mandela Effect?

It just COMPLETELY DESTROYED your FEEBLE ATTEMPT at INTELLIGENT REASONING.
 Quoting: tekman


Could you please post the source of that quote? I'm honestly open to it and would consider it a solid proof.

My searches returned only English quotes with no French source, so so far it looks invented. But I would welcome being proven wrong
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You can t spend your time fighting with people. We have shifted to another earth simulation where people have always seen it how it is actually. The question is : how many are we?
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They were born with this version of Rodin. You can t blame them. You waste your time bro.
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Did Rodin speak English? Stop ducking the question
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« Il ne pense pas seulement avec son cerveau, avec son sourcil froncé, ses narines écartées et ses lèvres pincées, mais aussi avec chaque muscle de ses bras, de son dos et de ses jambes, ses poings serrés et ses orteils crispés. »

"poings serrés " = clenched fists

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Belief in the ME isof course correlated with people who are more assuming, with bigger egoes.

That's why to them the most simple, logical explanation to reality differing from their assumption/memory is different timelines, and not the way our brain works (taking shortcuts through assumptions).


What does it tell about these people they think it's more likely that people from different timelines exist in the same reality?

It says they have huge egoes.

Occam's razor prevails. Most likely is people brains taking shortcuts and refusing to admit it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83752823


The only one with ego here is you - based on the fact that you have never experienced the phenomenon, you assume that those who have are too stupid to have considered all other logical explanations.

Your lack of experience makes you take shortcuts. I can't blame you. How could you possibly imagine something you have never experienced?

One day though.. you may experience it, and then you'll remember all the arrogant ignorant posts you made about the topic.
 Quoting: JADR+


I experience incorrect memories all the time.

The difference between me and you is I don't need a multiverse theory to protect myself from the eventuality I could be wrong.

I welcome being wrong so I can learn and grow.

You prefer to encrust yourself in old beliefs, because it's more comfortable.

Soon you'll be a fossil if you keep refusing to reevaluate your beliefs constantly
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


You have not even started to think about this correctly.
We all experience incorrect memories. So what?
We're not talking about incorrect memories.
We're talking about ONE specific memory not matching reality that is shared by millions of people from different cultures, age groups an geographical locations.

And that's just the beginning of the phenomenon. There is much more to it ....

You're a clear example of the "Dunning-Kruger effect"
 Quoting: JADR+


Most people assume the thinker has the hand on the forehead because that's the pose they would take naturally.

Nothing magical about this.

https://imgur.com/eYp6xZ0

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Then why are those kids doing the forehead pose?
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If you actually read my posts you would know

These kids didn't look at the statue. They simply took the pose they ASSUME a thinker would.


 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


sure.. kids visiting a specific statue with their teacher don't look at it... when was the last you were a kid?
Can you remember not looking at new things when you were a kid?
 Quoting: JADR+


Then way are they posing wrong?

Oh yes, somehow it's more likely there are different timelines than the students assuming incorrectly.

Lol
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


They are NOT posing wrong.

They are posing EXACTLY like the statue appeared to them,
AT THAT MOMENT.

It has SINCE changed, and ALL RENDERINGS OF IT CHANGED, resulting in this photo looking so strange.

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

It is beyond painful for me to have come to this conclusion.

A LOGICAL mind FORCED into an ILLOGICAL CONCLUSION.
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The simple heuristic which revises history does not seem to affect existing acts of free will.

[link to imgur.com (secure)]
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agreed! good post, OP!
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I've never seen the Thinker portrayed with a fist on his forehead.

I didn't know that was even a theory until this thread.

It's never been that way.

It's always been with his fist supporting his chin.

Having his fist on his forehead doesn't even make sense.

And Isaiah 11 never read 'And the lion shall lie down with the lamb'.

Whoever starts these stupid rumors should serve jail time.
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It was always on the forehead..why wouldn't it make sense?
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Mandela effect(whatever the phenomenon is) based on observations - reported by millions of geographically separate people from different cultures.
The observation I reported above is quite a common one, anyone who ever got interested in the topic report it too.
I don't pretend to know the reason why it's like that - observations should never be discounted because they don't fit with the established paradigm.

Even if it is mass delusion - it's still a phenomenon which needs to be studied.

Gender theory, on the other hand is post modern Marxism taught in academia, and financed and promoted by the world economic forum, BlackRock and the main stream media.
Gender theory runs contrary to all observable facts.
 Quoting: JADR+


I wouldn't say it's mass delusion as much as mass ignorance.

However, you can see a group of kids emulating the statue in the wrong way. Instead of thinking something happened to change the statue, realize the statue has never changed. Now explain the kids' behavior. Delusion? Possibly.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


People like you intrigue me.

You can be so SURE of a fallacy.

I grew up in the '60's, when EDUCATION actually was just that. We were EDUCATED, not BABYSAT.

In the 7th grade, children took an ART EDUCATION class.

We STUDIED famous artworks and their creators.

We had to sketch these artworks, and we were graded on our accuracy.

I know for a FACT, from STUDY, that Rodin's sculpture had a CLENCHED FIST under the chin.

RODIN HIMSELF SAYS THE SAME!!!

As Rodin himself described: "What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."

Explain to us where the CLENCHED FIST is, in this current sculpture.

As I have said on this forum before,

Rodin's The Thinker is the best example of a Mandela Effect, because its CREATOR describes it as being DIFFERENT than it currently is.
 Quoting: tekman

Did Rodin speak English? Or is that a translation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83993556


So, your explanation is that we cannot ADEQUATELY translate French to English?

Perhaps "Le Penseur" doesn't mean "The Thinker" at all.

What a FUCKING IDIOT you are.
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Did Rodin speak English? Stop ducking the question
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« Il ne pense pas seulement avec son cerveau, avec son sourcil froncé, ses narines écartées et ses lèvres pincées, mais aussi avec chaque muscle de ses bras, de son dos et de ses jambes, ses poings serrés et ses orteils crispés. »

"poings serrés " = clenched fists
 Quoting: JADR+


Thank you. So actually Rodin said the thinker has both fist closed. Judging at how closed they actually are, we can see he was clearly exaggerating his description to convey a certain artistic point he was trying to make.

This is a thing that exist in many languages and especially french.

Just like a sculptor will make his statues have dramatic poses, reflection an exaggerated reality, so is he doing in his description of it, claiming he has both fists clenched (when it is obvious it doesn't) to illustrate the internal struggle of the character
gooby pls
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If you actually read my posts you would know

These kids didn't look at the statue. They simply took the pose they ASSUME a thinker would.


 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


sure.. kids visiting a specific statue with their teacher don't look at it... when was the last you were a kid?
Can you remember not looking at new things when you were a kid?
 Quoting: JADR+


Then way are they posing wrong?

Oh yes, somehow it's more likely there are different timelines than the students assuming incorrectly.

Lol
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


They are NOT posing wrong.

They are posing EXACTLY like the statue appeared to them,
AT THAT MOMENT.

It has SINCE changed, and ALL RENDERINGS OF IT CHANGED, resulting in this photo looking so strange.

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

It is beyond painful for me to have come to this conclusion.

A LOGICAL mind FORCED into an ILLOGICAL CONCLUSION.
 Quoting: tekman


My explanation is more logical and simple, sorry.

People assume incorrectly ALL THE TIME.
gooby pls
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So all those school kids on the photo aren't only morons with no memory, they also have shit in their eyes?

And you feel smart about your braindead theory?

Congratulation Einstein!!
 Quoting: JADR+


All Mandela effects can be explained by people taking an assumption their brain is making as an actual fact.

Ask anyone around you to take a "thinking" pose and most will put a hand on the forehead because it's what most ACTUALLY do.

Now ask them to mimic the thinker, 99% don't have photographic memory so they will simply take the pose they ASSUME the thinker would have.

All Mandela effects are assumptions and the ego refusing the admit it's just an assumption and not an actual photographic memory.

Same reason why people assume Beaten stein. Because -stein is a very common suffix in names while -stein is never seen. So the brain just think it cannot be correct.

Assumptions and ego

Give me any ME example and I'll deconstruct it for you based on assumptions people brains make (because we are wired to do it to think faster)
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As Rodin himself described: "What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."

Find a CLENCHED FIST on the current statue.

EXPLAIN how MY BRAIN"S ASSUMPTIONS made Rodin MISTAKENLY describe HIS OWN CREATION.

Now, do you see why The Thinker is a GREAT example of a Mandela Effect?

It just COMPLETELY DESTROYED your FEEBLE ATTEMPT at INTELLIGENT REASONING.
 Quoting: tekman


Could you please post the source of that quote? I'm honestly open to it and would consider it a solid proof.

My searches returned only English quotes with no French source, so so far it looks invented. But I would welcome being proven wrong
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« Il ne pense pas seulement avec son cerveau, avec son sourcil froncé, ses narines écartées et ses lèvres pincées, mais aussi avec chaque muscle de ses bras, de son dos et de ses jambes, ses poings serrés et ses orteils crispés. »

"poings serrés " = clenched fists
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sure.. kids visiting a specific statue with their teacher don't look at it... when was the last you were a kid?
Can you remember not looking at new things when you were a kid?
 Quoting: JADR+


Then way are they posing wrong?

Oh yes, somehow it's more likely there are different timelines than the students assuming incorrectly.

Lol
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


They are NOT posing wrong.

They are posing EXACTLY like the statue appeared to them,
AT THAT MOMENT.

It has SINCE changed, and ALL RENDERINGS OF IT CHANGED, resulting in this photo looking so strange.

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

It is beyond painful for me to have come to this conclusion.

A LOGICAL mind FORCED into an ILLOGICAL CONCLUSION.
 Quoting: tekman


My explanation is more logical and simple, sorry.

People assume incorrectly ALL THE TIME.
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If you actually read my posts you would know

These kids didn't look at the statue. They simply took the pose they ASSUME a thinker would.


 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


sure.. kids visiting a specific statue with their teacher don't look at it... when was the last you were a kid?
Can you remember not looking at new things when you were a kid?
 Quoting: JADR+


Then way are they posing wrong?

Oh yes, somehow it's more likely there are different timelines than the students assuming incorrectly.

Lol
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


They are NOT posing wrong.

They are posing EXACTLY like the statue appeared to them,
AT THAT MOMENT.

It has SINCE changed, and ALL RENDERINGS OF IT CHANGED, resulting in this photo looking so strange.

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

It is beyond painful for me to have come to this conclusion.

A LOGICAL mind FORCED into an ILLOGICAL CONCLUSION.
 Quoting: tekman


Why is at least one of the kids doing the hand on chin?
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If you actually read my posts you would know

These kids didn't look at the statue. They simply took the pose they ASSUME a thinker would.


 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


sure.. kids visiting a specific statue with their teacher don't look at it... when was the last you were a kid?
Can you remember not looking at new things when you were a kid?
 Quoting: JADR+


Then way are they posing wrong?

Oh yes, somehow it's more likely there are different timelines than the students assuming incorrectly.

Lol
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


They are NOT posing wrong.

They are posing EXACTLY like the statue appeared to them,
AT THAT MOMENT.

It has SINCE changed, and ALL RENDERINGS OF IT CHANGED, resulting in this photo looking so strange.

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

It is beyond painful for me to have come to this conclusion.

A LOGICAL mind FORCED into an ILLOGICAL CONCLUSION.
 Quoting: tekman



I agree with this. ALl i remember is Original was fist under chin then a few years back it went to forehead now its back to Chin.


even one of the articles posted on OP has 2015 on it, so this goes well with my thinking on when shit changed.

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