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Why is the thinker sitting on a rock? In my reality, he was always sitting on the toilet.
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Then way are they posing wrong?

Oh yes, somehow it's more likely there are different timelines than the students assuming incorrectly.

Lol
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


They are NOT posing wrong.

They are posing EXACTLY like the statue appeared to them,
AT THAT MOMENT.

It has SINCE changed, and ALL RENDERINGS OF IT CHANGED, resulting in this photo looking so strange.

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

It is beyond painful for me to have come to this conclusion.

A LOGICAL mind FORCED into an ILLOGICAL CONCLUSION.
 Quoting: tekman


My explanation is more logical and simple, sorry.

People assume incorrectly ALL THE TIME.
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


"Stones cannot fall from the sky, because there are no stones in the sky!" – Antoine Lavoisier, father of modern chemistry.
 Quoting: JADR+


Nice strawman. Nothing to do with my claims
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Why is the thinker sitting on a rock? In my reality, he was always sitting on the toilet.
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That's normal of you to assume this if toilet is the natural thinking place for you ;)
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The Thinker's hand was always under his chin back to the weekly introduction of the Dobie Gillis show."
Just don't make anything up.
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The Thinker's hand was always under his chin back to the weekly introduction of the Dobie Gillis show."
Just don't make anything up.
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Did this thread originally have 100% in the title OR have I been false memoried?


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They are NOT posing wrong.

They are posing EXACTLY like the statue appeared to them,
AT THAT MOMENT.

It has SINCE changed, and ALL RENDERINGS OF IT CHANGED, resulting in this photo looking so strange.

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

It is beyond painful for me to have come to this conclusion.

A LOGICAL mind FORCED into an ILLOGICAL CONCLUSION.
 Quoting: tekman


My explanation is more logical and simple, sorry.

People assume incorrectly ALL THE TIME.
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


"Stones cannot fall from the sky, because there are no stones in the sky!" – Antoine Lavoisier, father of modern chemistry.
 Quoting: JADR+


Nice strawman. Nothing to do with my claims
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


same process - Lavoisier 's quote there is simple, logical - and true (if one dismisses/ignores all knowledge about outer space)

Lavoisier assumed that all meteorites collected over the years were due to idiotic superstitions .. and dismissed the whole phenomenon.

You are doing the exact same thing
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The Thinker's hand was always under his chin back to the weekly introduction of the Dobie Gillis show."
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Yup it always was and nobody can prove otherwise.

All they can do is show people who claim to remember differently which of course not a valid scientific proof
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My explanation is more logical and simple, sorry.

People assume incorrectly ALL THE TIME.
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


"Stones cannot fall from the sky, because there are no stones in the sky!" – Antoine Lavoisier, father of modern chemistry.
 Quoting: JADR+


Nice strawman. Nothing to do with my claims
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


same process - Lavoisier 's quote there is simple, logical - and true (if one dismisses/ignores all knowledge about outer space)

Lavoisier assumed that all meteorites collected over the years were due to idiotic superstitions .. and dismissed the whole phenomenon.

You are doing the exact same thing
 Quoting: JADR+


Nope, I never said the ME theory is impossible. I said that based on Occam's razor, it's not the most simple explanation and thus not the most probable.
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Why is the thinker sitting on a rock? In my reality, he was always sitting on the toilet.
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That's normal of you to assume this if toilet is the natural thinking place for you ;)
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In fact, he might not even have been the thinker. I think he was called The Stinker.
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So all those school kids on the photo aren't only morons with no memory, they also have shit in their eyes?

And you feel smart about your braindead theory?

Congratulation Einstein!!
 Quoting: JADR+


All Mandela effects can be explained by people taking an assumption their brain is making as an actual fact.

Ask anyone around you to take a "thinking" pose and most will put a hand on the forehead because it's what most ACTUALLY do.

Now ask them to mimic the thinker, 99% don't have photographic memory so they will simply take the pose they ASSUME the thinker would have.

All Mandela effects are assumptions and the ego refusing the admit it's just an assumption and not an actual photographic memory.

Same reason why people assume Beaten stein. Because -stein is a very common suffix in names while -stein is never seen. So the brain just think it cannot be correct.

Assumptions and ego

Give me any ME example and I'll deconstruct it for you based on assumptions people brains make (because we are wired to do it to think faster)
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As Rodin himself described: "What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."

Find a CLENCHED FIST on the current statue.

EXPLAIN how MY BRAIN"S ASSUMPTIONS made Rodin MISTAKENLY describe HIS OWN CREATION.

Now, do you see why The Thinker is a GREAT example of a Mandela Effect?

It just COMPLETELY DESTROYED your FEEBLE ATTEMPT at INTELLIGENT REASONING.
 Quoting: tekman


Could you please post the source of that quote? I'm honestly open to it and would consider it a solid proof.

My searches returned only English quotes with no French source, so so far it looks invented. But I would welcome being proven wrong
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I am looking.

It is all over the internet.

Here is one example:

[link to stringfixer.com (secure)]

They attribute it to National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C. Archived from the original on November 30, 2006 . Retrieved 12 December 2006 .

Would love to find it in French.

Thanks for the OPEN MIND!!
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"Stones cannot fall from the sky, because there are no stones in the sky!" – Antoine Lavoisier, father of modern chemistry.
 Quoting: JADR+


Nice strawman. Nothing to do with my claims
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


same process - Lavoisier 's quote there is simple, logical - and true (if one dismisses/ignores all knowledge about outer space)

Lavoisier assumed that all meteorites collected over the years were due to idiotic superstitions .. and dismissed the whole phenomenon.

You are doing the exact same thing
 Quoting: JADR+


Nope, I never said the ME theory is impossible. I said that based on Occam's razor, it's not the most simple explanation and thus not the most probable.
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


Occam's razor depends on assumptions.
Occam's razor was well applied in the Lavoisier example. (except his conclusion turned out to be completely untrue)

People often misapply Occam’s razor when they prefer the simplest theory, not the simplest theory that explains all the evidence.

Occam’s razor can be misapplied in many ways:

Not considering all the evidence and what is inherently more likely.
Using it to definitely rule out less likely theories, which may still be true.
Using it as part of a false dilemma and not considering other possible options.
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All Mandela effects can be explained by people taking an assumption their brain is making as an actual fact.

Ask anyone around you to take a "thinking" pose and most will put a hand on the forehead because it's what most ACTUALLY do.

Now ask them to mimic the thinker, 99% don't have photographic memory so they will simply take the pose they ASSUME the thinker would have.

All Mandela effects are assumptions and the ego refusing the admit it's just an assumption and not an actual photographic memory.

Same reason why people assume Beaten stein. Because -stein is a very common suffix in names while -stein is never seen. So the brain just think it cannot be correct.

Assumptions and ego

Give me any ME example and I'll deconstruct it for you based on assumptions people brains make (because we are wired to do it to think faster)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83752823


As Rodin himself described: "What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."

Find a CLENCHED FIST on the current statue.

EXPLAIN how MY BRAIN"S ASSUMPTIONS made Rodin MISTAKENLY describe HIS OWN CREATION.

Now, do you see why The Thinker is a GREAT example of a Mandela Effect?

It just COMPLETELY DESTROYED your FEEBLE ATTEMPT at INTELLIGENT REASONING.
 Quoting: tekman


Could you please post the source of that quote? I'm honestly open to it and would consider it a solid proof.

My searches returned only English quotes with no French source, so so far it looks invented. But I would welcome being proven wrong
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


I am looking.

It is all over the internet.

Here is one example:

[link to stringfixer.com (secure)]

They attribute it to National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C. Archived from the original on November 30, 2006 . Retrieved 12 December 2006 .

Would love to find it in French.

Thanks for the OPEN MIND!!
 Quoting: tekman


JADR actually posted the French text that I could find on Google (though not the original source) and it's interesting to note Rodin actually said "clenched fists", plural. Which raises more questions than answers.

To me (native French speaker) the original quote seems to be an exaggerated view from Rodin to convey the message of his statue, like most of his statue do actually have exaggerated poses to convey their message more dramatically
gooby pls
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Nice strawman. Nothing to do with my claims
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


same process - Lavoisier 's quote there is simple, logical - and true (if one dismisses/ignores all knowledge about outer space)

Lavoisier assumed that all meteorites collected over the years were due to idiotic superstitions .. and dismissed the whole phenomenon.

You are doing the exact same thing
 Quoting: JADR+


Nope, I never said the ME theory is impossible. I said that based on Occam's razor, it's not the most simple explanation and thus not the most probable.
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


Occam's razor depends on assumptions.
Occam's razor was well applied in the Lavoisier example. (except his conclusion turned out to be completely untrue)

People often misapply Occam’s razor when they prefer the simplest theory, not the simplest theory that explains all the evidence.

Occam’s razor can be misapplied in many ways:

Not considering all the evidence and what is inherently more likely.
Using it to definitely rule out less likely theories, which may still be true.
Using it as part of a false dilemma and not considering other possible options.
 Quoting: JADR+


My theory explains all the evidence.

Feel free to post more ME example and I'll show how they can be traced back to assumptions people make based on their personal experience
gooby pls
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sure.. kids visiting a specific statue with their teacher don't look at it... when was the last you were a kid?
Can you remember not looking at new things when you were a kid?
 Quoting: JADR+


Then way are they posing wrong?

Oh yes, somehow it's more likely there are different timelines than the students assuming incorrectly.

Lol
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


They are NOT posing wrong.

They are posing EXACTLY like the statue appeared to them,
AT THAT MOMENT.

It has SINCE changed, and ALL RENDERINGS OF IT CHANGED, resulting in this photo looking so strange.

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

It is beyond painful for me to have come to this conclusion.

A LOGICAL mind FORCED into an ILLOGICAL CONCLUSION.
 Quoting: tekman


Why is at least one of the kids doing the hand on chin?
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At what picture are you looking?

I see NO children with their hand under their chin.

Have you ACTUALLY EXAMINED the photo, or are you ASSUMING, from someone else's statement?
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To me the Bearenstein example is the most telling.

Ask people to spell Bearenstein/ain and they will all write it with -stein, even if they don't actually know the book, because that's the most common way to write that suffix in name.

So of course people remember that version in their brain, and not Bearenstain which seems completely counterintuitive as a proper name
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Dude 90% of it is bad memory and inaccurate cliches created by comedians in the 80s 90s.

"Luke Im your father"
"beam me up scotty"

inaccurate comedy cliches.
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As Rodin himself described: "What makes my Thinker think is that he thinks not only with his brain, with his knitted brow, his distended nostrils and compressed lips, but with every muscle of his arms, back, and legs, with his clenched fist and gripping toes."

Find a CLENCHED FIST on the current statue.

EXPLAIN how MY BRAIN"S ASSUMPTIONS made Rodin MISTAKENLY describe HIS OWN CREATION.

Now, do you see why The Thinker is a GREAT example of a Mandela Effect?

It just COMPLETELY DESTROYED your FEEBLE ATTEMPT at INTELLIGENT REASONING.
 Quoting: tekman


Could you please post the source of that quote? I'm honestly open to it and would consider it a solid proof.

My searches returned only English quotes with no French source, so so far it looks invented. But I would welcome being proven wrong
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I am looking.

It is all over the internet.

Here is one example:

[link to stringfixer.com (secure)]

They attribute it to National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C. Archived from the original on November 30, 2006 . Retrieved 12 December 2006 .

Would love to find it in French.

Thanks for the OPEN MIND!!
 Quoting: tekman


JADR actually posted the French text that I could find on Google (though not the original source) and it's interesting to note Rodin actually said "clenched fists", plural. Which raises more questions than answers.

To me (native French speaker) the original quote seems to be an exaggerated view from Rodin to convey the message of his statue, like most of his statue do actually have exaggerated poses to convey their message more dramatically
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


I can't find that quote on the net, yet, and I don't think he provided a SOURCE.

I WILL find out where the quote came from, because as I said before, it is the BEST PROOF we have of the Mandela Effect being real.
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Then way are they posing wrong?

Oh yes, somehow it's more likely there are different timelines than the students assuming incorrectly.

Lol
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


They are NOT posing wrong.

They are posing EXACTLY like the statue appeared to them,
AT THAT MOMENT.

It has SINCE changed, and ALL RENDERINGS OF IT CHANGED, resulting in this photo looking so strange.

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

It is beyond painful for me to have come to this conclusion.

A LOGICAL mind FORCED into an ILLOGICAL CONCLUSION.
 Quoting: tekman


Why is at least one of the kids doing the hand on chin?
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At what picture are you looking?

I see NO children with their hand under their chin.

Have you ACTUALLY EXAMINED the photo, or are you ASSUMING, from someone else's statement?
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The girl on the right, next to the rose bushes has her her hand on her chin
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same process - Lavoisier 's quote there is simple, logical - and true (if one dismisses/ignores all knowledge about outer space)

Lavoisier assumed that all meteorites collected over the years were due to idiotic superstitions .. and dismissed the whole phenomenon.

You are doing the exact same thing
 Quoting: JADR+


Nope, I never said the ME theory is impossible. I said that based on Occam's razor, it's not the most simple explanation and thus not the most probable.
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


Occam's razor depends on assumptions.
Occam's razor was well applied in the Lavoisier example. (except his conclusion turned out to be completely untrue)

People often misapply Occam’s razor when they prefer the simplest theory, not the simplest theory that explains all the evidence.

Occam’s razor can be misapplied in many ways:

Not considering all the evidence and what is inherently more likely.
Using it to definitely rule out less likely theories, which may still be true.
Using it as part of a false dilemma and not considering other possible options.
 Quoting: JADR+


My theory explains all the evidence.

Feel free to post more ME example and I'll show how they can be traced back to assumptions people make based on their personal experience
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


it explains nothing - it does not work.

1) people have shit memory (not capable of remembering a pose) - assumption - you actually have not quantified nor studied this -
2) people are likely to remember things that are more logical - fist on forehead more logical for a statue called the thinker - another assumption - half the people here think hand under chin is more logical
3) you assume a bunch of kids would not be able to reproduce the pose of a statue when looking at it .. you posit that they may not have looked at it - that is just plain stupid ..

Your theory is pure garbage - albeit simple .. perfect for a simple mind.
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Nope, I never said the ME theory is impossible. I said that based on Occam's razor, it's not the most simple explanation and thus not the most probable.
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


Occam's razor depends on assumptions.
Occam's razor was well applied in the Lavoisier example. (except his conclusion turned out to be completely untrue)

People often misapply Occam’s razor when they prefer the simplest theory, not the simplest theory that explains all the evidence.

Occam’s razor can be misapplied in many ways:

Not considering all the evidence and what is inherently more likely.
Using it to definitely rule out less likely theories, which may still be true.
Using it as part of a false dilemma and not considering other possible options.
 Quoting: JADR+


My theory explains all the evidence.

Feel free to post more ME example and I'll show how they can be traced back to assumptions people make based on their personal experience
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


it explains nothing - it does not work.

1) people have shit memory (not capable of remembering a pose) - assumption - you actually have not quantified nor studied this -
2) people are likely to remember things that are more logical - fist on forehead more logical for a statue called the thinker - another assumption - half the people here think hand under chin is more logical
3) you assume a bunch of kids would not be able to reproduce the pose of a statue when looking at it .. you posit that they may not have looked at it - that is just plain stupid ..

Your theory is pure garbage - albeit simple .. perfect for a simple mind.
 Quoting: JADR+


Why did at least one of the kids put their hand on their chin?
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So I guess if people remember "mirror, mirror on the wall" instead of "magic mirror on the wall it's because of timelines and not this




Ok, lol
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Could you please post the source of that quote? I'm honestly open to it and would consider it a solid proof.

My searches returned only English quotes with no French source, so so far it looks invented. But I would welcome being proven wrong
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


I am looking.

It is all over the internet.

Here is one example:

[link to stringfixer.com (secure)]

They attribute it to National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C. Archived from the original on November 30, 2006 . Retrieved 12 December 2006 .

Would love to find it in French.

Thanks for the OPEN MIND!!
 Quoting: tekman


JADR actually posted the French text that I could find on Google (though not the original source) and it's interesting to note Rodin actually said "clenched fists", plural. Which raises more questions than answers.

To me (native French speaker) the original quote seems to be an exaggerated view from Rodin to convey the message of his statue, like most of his statue do actually have exaggerated poses to convey their message more dramatically
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


I can't find that quote on the net, yet, and I don't think he provided a SOURCE.

I WILL find out where the quote came from, because as I said before, it is the BEST PROOF we have of the Mandela Effect being real.
 Quoting: tekman


As interesting as the quote is, because it conflicts with the actual statue's hands, it says nothing about where the hand is so unfortunately it proves nothing wether the hand ever changed place (it didn't)
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So I guess if people remember "mirror, mirror on the wall" instead of "magic mirror on the wall it's because of timelines and not this




Ok, lol
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Here is reference to the 'now erroneous' quote from 1981... 8 years before the song you posted was produced!

How far are you willing to go???



https://imgur.com/UPbrkuH



Seriously - you blame De La Soul for the "mirror mirror on the wall Mandela effect without having even checked if the quote existed before them??

And then you pontificate about your superior powers of deduction???

roflmao
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Occam's razor depends on assumptions.
Occam's razor was well applied in the Lavoisier example. (except his conclusion turned out to be completely untrue)

People often misapply Occam’s razor when they prefer the simplest theory, not the simplest theory that explains all the evidence.

Occam’s razor can be misapplied in many ways:

Not considering all the evidence and what is inherently more likely.
Using it to definitely rule out less likely theories, which may still be true.
Using it as part of a false dilemma and not considering other possible options.
 Quoting: JADR+


My theory explains all the evidence.

Feel free to post more ME example and I'll show how they can be traced back to assumptions people make based on their personal experience
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


it explains nothing - it does not work.

1) people have shit memory (not capable of remembering a pose) - assumption - you actually have not quantified nor studied this -
2) people are likely to remember things that are more logical - fist on forehead more logical for a statue called the thinker - another assumption - half the people here think hand under chin is more logical
3) you assume a bunch of kids would not be able to reproduce the pose of a statue when looking at it .. you posit that they may not have looked at it - that is just plain stupid ..

Your theory is pure garbage - albeit simple .. perfect for a simple mind.
 Quoting: JADR+


Why did at least one of the kids put their hand on their chin?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83993556


That child has her hand on her CHEEK, NOT CHIN.

Have you EVER seen a CLASSROOM of children COMPLETELY follow instructions?
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Occam's razor depends on assumptions.
Occam's razor was well applied in the Lavoisier example. (except his conclusion turned out to be completely untrue)

People often misapply Occam’s razor when they prefer the simplest theory, not the simplest theory that explains all the evidence.

Occam’s razor can be misapplied in many ways:

Not considering all the evidence and what is inherently more likely.
Using it to definitely rule out less likely theories, which may still be true.
Using it as part of a false dilemma and not considering other possible options.
 Quoting: JADR+


My theory explains all the evidence.

Feel free to post more ME example and I'll show how they can be traced back to assumptions people make based on their personal experience
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


it explains nothing - it does not work.

1) people have shit memory (not capable of remembering a pose) - assumption - you actually have not quantified nor studied this -
2) people are likely to remember things that are more logical - fist on forehead more logical for a statue called the thinker - another assumption - half the people here think hand under chin is more logical
3) you assume a bunch of kids would not be able to reproduce the pose of a statue when looking at it .. you posit that they may not have looked at it - that is just plain stupid ..

Your theory is pure garbage - albeit simple .. perfect for a simple mind.
 Quoting: JADR+


Why did at least one of the kids put their hand on their chin?
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I actually can't see that for sure on the photo ..too small and blurry, resolution not good enough... looks like her fist is on her cheek to me.

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So I guess if people remember "mirror, mirror on the wall" instead of "magic mirror on the wall it's because of timelines and not this




Ok, lol
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


People think the monopoly man had a monocle because of Ace Ventura. "Luke, I am your father" because of countless parodies mis-quoting over the years.

All the spelling ones eg. "Looney Toons", "Berenstein" are because kids don't know how to spell and/or as you said they make more sense than the real spelling. "Toons" makes more sense if you don't know the history of the name, basically a play on disneys "Merry Melodies".
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I've never seen the Thinker portrayed with a fist on his forehead.

I didn't know that was even a theory until this thread.

It's never been that way.

It's always been with his fist supporting his chin.

Having his fist on his forehead doesn't even make sense.

And Isaiah 11 never read 'And the lion shall lie down with the lamb'.

Whoever starts these stupid rumors should serve jail time.
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I bet you watched Dobie Gillis when you were young.
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I am looking.

It is all over the internet.

Here is one example:

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They attribute it to National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C. Archived from the original on November 30, 2006 . Retrieved 12 December 2006 .

Would love to find it in French.

Thanks for the OPEN MIND!!
 Quoting: tekman


JADR actually posted the French text that I could find on Google (though not the original source) and it's interesting to note Rodin actually said "clenched fists", plural. Which raises more questions than answers.

To me (native French speaker) the original quote seems to be an exaggerated view from Rodin to convey the message of his statue, like most of his statue do actually have exaggerated poses to convey their message more dramatically
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


I can't find that quote on the net, yet, and I don't think he provided a SOURCE.

I WILL find out where the quote came from, because as I said before, it is the BEST PROOF we have of the Mandela Effect being real.
 Quoting: tekman


As interesting as the quote is, because it conflicts with the actual statue's hands, it says nothing about where the hand is so unfortunately it proves nothing wether the hand ever changed place (it didn't)
 Quoting: Dolan Trumb


Thst is true.

However, it WOULD speak to the statue being DIFFERENT than it is now, and would SUPPORT, AS EVIDENCE, people like me, who KNOW the hand used to be CLENCHED, under the chin.
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I’d beg to guess that only about 1 in 10 posters even grasps the concept of the ME judging by the comments.
 Quoting: MEGA MAGA Yo Adrian


I know .. the worse thing is they get a sense of intellectual self satisfaction from dispensing their mind numbing dumb explanations :

"your memory is shit"

"people just don't know what they are looking at"

"it's all due to bad journalism"

Yeah .. as if none of us considered those as possibilities when we first encountered the ME!!
 Quoting: JADR+


Other side of that is the diluted sense of grandeur the MEers get by saying in THEIR reality jerkit





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