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Ancient Laser Cutting Technology Used All Over The Planet

 
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I think it was a mix with cobber, and a metal., i think was called "Elektrum"?? and then gold.
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Not true.

I posted a video explaining how the French moved obelisks of 230 tons from Egypt to Paris in 1830.

Most people thought it would be impossible but it took 300 men at most.

We know from hieroglyphs Egyptians had tens of housands of workers when building their biggest monuments.

You do the maths about what is actually possible with such a manpower
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Yeah maybe, but it still does not explain the irregular and very precise techniques of so called "cyclopian" architecture. Those blocks are so tight you cant fit a credit card between them.

I just cant see a thousand slaves moving the base stones for the pyramids. Were talking 80 tons (the largest stones) transported from 500 miles away.
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Then you lack imagination because in 1830 the French easily moved 230 tons blocks from Louxor to Paris, without any experience.

The Egyptians used boats on the Nile. They explain it in details in their monuments


Why do you refuse to even look at the explanations given by ancient Egyptians themselves? Do they hurt your beliefs?
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No you have a point about the movement sure. Still does not explain the precise building techniques, also moving the larger stones uphill.
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Oh and by the way I just read the article. The journey to move just one obelisk from Luxor to Paris was so difficult the attempt at the second obelisk was abandoned.

You illustrated it can be done but if it was so possible why did they give up on the second. So your saying an ancient people with less technology/resources did the journey of moving large stones thousands of times without a sweat but more modern Europeans could not? Why not get the second one? Because the it was too much to handle. See how your arguments falls apart.
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Yes
they used laser cutting on the sphinx of Bucegi
the plateau where the old ladies and the sphinx is located is laser cut
the entire mountain top was laser cut and then those figures put in
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it's concrete bro.... CONCRETE MOLDS...

An art lost in the dark ages until resurfacing in some time during the Renaissance era..

Also the pyramids in Giza... same thing...
What the amazing documentary called "Pyramid K" I believ it was called..

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Can someone explain this?


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Lots of chisels and lots of slaves
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Im tellin ya, its the only way it works for them, you just gotta have beer.
Beer and they cut a pyramid; car and they drive over your kid on dope.
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Has no one here seen the video of a guy moving a 10000 pound block with just a stick and fulcrum. Moves it like its a small refrigerator and all over the place too.
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As if this explains how the stones were cut to better than 1 part in 1000 precision (the limit of most modern machine shops)
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You move huge blocks of stone by putting a pebble(s) under them to leverage on.
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It's just poured cement. Depending on the type of cement used (with a certain type of water, and some environmental conditions), it turns to stone after about 200 years.

No lasers were had.
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You are ignoring the evidence of saw marks in the stone slabs, as well as at some sites pressure marks in the stone that could have only been made if it had been soft like putty at some point. Your suggestion is also illogical because it would have required saws (if not lasers) to extract stone from the bedrock in the quarries before crushing it to make cement. If they could easily cut through hard stone and shape it any way they wanted, what's the point of then turning it into cement?! Concrete/geopolymer theory is totally redundant and is not accepted by most of the alternative archaeology community worldwide.
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Not true.

I posted a video explaining how the French moved obelisks of 230 tons from Egypt to Paris in 1830.

Most people thought it would be impossible but it took 300 men at most.

We know from hieroglyphs Egyptians had tens of housands of workers when building their biggest monuments.

You do the maths about what is actually possible with such a manpower
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84022093


Yeah maybe, but it still does not explain the irregular and very precise techniques of so called "cyclopian" architecture. Those blocks are so tight you cant fit a credit card between them.

I just cant see a thousand slaves moving the base stones for the pyramids. Were talking 80 tons (the largest stones) transported from 500 miles away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81201280


Then you lack imagination because in 1830 the French easily moved 230 tons blocks from Louxor to Paris, without any experience.

The Egyptians used boats on the Nile. They explain it in details in their monuments


Why do you refuse to even look at the explanations given by ancient Egyptians themselves? Do they hurt your beliefs?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84022093


No you have a point about the movement sure. Still does not explain the precise building techniques, also moving the larger stones uphill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81201280


If you genuinely want to know how they did, you will find tons of sources explaining this to you.

I was once also into the "ancient civilizations had advanced tools" crowd, read and watched a lot on the topic.

Many famous videos like Builders of ancient mysteries are riddled with innacuracies and lies. I have seen many other scientists explaining simply and clearly how these things were done (when most conspiracy channels actually don't show anything, they just make assumptions. Good videos actually show you things, measurement, methods used)


Only things really unexplained so far aren't the great pyramid or Peruvian sites

It's Barbara in India and why the meter is found in Puma Punku stones and in the great chamber of the great pyramid.

The methods used aren't the problem. The problem is why Napoleon's meter is found precisely in those monuments.

Also seems to indicate anglo Saxons have picked the wrong units of measure lol
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Has no one here seen the video of a guy moving a 10000 pound block with just a stick and fulcrum. Moves it like its a small refrigerator and all over the place too.
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As if this explains how the stones were cut to better than 1 part in 1000 precision (the limit of most modern machine shops)
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Part of it is modern people and their absolute disgusting fecklessness. Because they can't do anything but sex, yet they imagine our ancestors were more primitive and stupid than them....when its the opposite. Vanity, ignorance, inability, atheism and obscenity are all most of em are, urban or rural....
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Yeah maybe, but it still does not explain the irregular and very precise techniques of so called "cyclopian" architecture. Those blocks are so tight you cant fit a credit card between them.

I just cant see a thousand slaves moving the base stones for the pyramids. Were talking 80 tons (the largest stones) transported from 500 miles away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81201280


Then you lack imagination because in 1830 the French easily moved 230 tons blocks from Louxor to Paris, without any experience.

The Egyptians used boats on the Nile. They explain it in details in their monuments


Why do you refuse to even look at the explanations given by ancient Egyptians themselves? Do they hurt your beliefs?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84022093


No you have a point about the movement sure. Still does not explain the precise building techniques, also moving the larger stones uphill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81201280


Oh and by the way I just read the article. The journey to move just one obelisk from Luxor to Paris was so difficult the attempt at the second obelisk was abandoned.

You illustrated it can be done but if it was so possible why did they give up on the second. So your saying an ancient people with less technology/resources did the journey of moving large stones thousands of times without a sweat but more modern Europeans could not? Why not get the second one? Because the it was too much to handle. See how your arguments falls apart.
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Egyptians had more experience, more men, and less distance to travel.

Not only it shows it's possible, but we can even do it on longer distance with less men.

So yes it proves it can be done without a doubt
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I love how mankind was able to build dozens of spectacular cathedrals in Europe during the middle age, a time when a lot of knowledge was lost, and then Americans see older, less complex buildings and think : "nobody could have possibly made that without modern or exotic technology"

The stupidity and naivety of Americans is always so entertaining.
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Good thing those dumbass Americans were able to dream up kicking the Germans out of France.
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Has no one here seen the video of a guy moving a 10000 pound block with just a stick and fulcrum. Moves it like its a small refrigerator and all over the place too.
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As if this explains how the stones were cut to better than 1 part in 1000 precision (the limit of most modern machine shops)
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I think they cast it. They knew how to make rock. Probably mined it, broke it down, transported it and then had a long forgotten technique to mix it and reform it. possibility's are heat, resonance, ultra high frequency, I don't see how else they achieved the precision in all these ancient pyramid's, walls on the tops of mountains etc.
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Where's the direct evidence that such advanced technology existed?

Oh, they just forgot all about that high technology and went back to the stone age. I see.
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This cutting technology can be done with application of ultrasonics, waterjet cutting and wire EDM ablation techniques.

Ultrasonics would be the easiest to apply for drilling and routing out material with an ablative machining tool dealing with multiple axis planes.

Waterjet is using high velocity water with embedded abrasives that cut material without thermal damage. Waterjet accuracy is +/- .05mm

Wire EDM uses electric ionization using a electrolytic liquid bath, wire and a conductive working material as an electric circuit. Wire EDM is accurate to +/- .005mm.
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Presuming that the ancients had a sound theoretical understanding and at least some technological control of electricity, the EDM method might have been feasible for small-scale cutting work, such as creating the finishing details of a headstone or sculpting precision-fit corners and notches on interlocking blocks. The crux of being able to build a functioning EDM hinges on the ability to produce rapidly pulsing DC or high frequency AC power.

However, the ancients might have had a solution. In the 1800s, there was an innovative device called a mercury arc rectifier (MAR) was used as the first high power AC to DC converter. The potential uses of this device go beyond its most common function and encroach on roles that would normally reserved for modern transistors and diodes.The most important thing about a mercury arc rectifier is that it could have been built with relatively simple (by modern standards) technological infrastructure and resources. While similar in design to a vacuum tube, which requires a near-perfect absence of air and a tight seal, a MAR doesn't require a perfect vacuum, making it something that an ancient glassblowing artisan could actually have created.

Furthermore, many ancient civilizations seemed to have a strange fixation on acquiring and hoarding mercury as a symbol of power. Even the Huns would prioritize finding liquid mercury and cinnabar ore stockpiles when they raided major cities. As many here already know, the Hindu Vedic mythology describes the function of mercury dynamo motors, which were used to create electrogravitic lift and power aircraft. Alchemists also revered the many applications of mercury and its salt compounds, naming it a critical element in the synthesis of concoctions that possessed "magical" properties. I think it's quite likely that mercury-based electrical technologies served as the industrial foundation for the antediluvian world.
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I love how mankind was able to build dozens of spectacular cathedrals in Europe during the middle age, a time when a lot of knowledge was lost, and then Americans see older, less complex buildings and think : "nobody could have possibly made that without modern or exotic technology"

The stupidity and naivety of Americans is always so entertaining.
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Good thing those dumbass Americans were able to dream up kicking the Germans out of France.
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That argument really debunks my point.

Not.

As usual Americans act just like babies when criticized and start talking about completely unrelated stuff.


Europeans built cathedrals more complex than most ancient monuments in the "dark times" when they were supposedly stupid


Only stupid people are those who assume humans who came before them were dumber.

They had less comfort but they were the opposite of dumber. We are the dumb ones with our technology constantly assisting us.
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maybe there wasn't any mechanical work at play. maybe those buildings/objects manifested/materialized from the aether, at a time this world wasn't that 'dense'.
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Has no one here seen the video of a guy moving a 10000 pound block with just a stick and fulcrum. Moves it like its a small refrigerator and all over the place too.
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I've seen it but forget his name. He built a private garden type area filled with those neat things.
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maybe there wasn't any mechanical work at play. maybe those buildings/objects manifested/materialized from the aether, at a time this world wasn't that 'dense'.
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That's a bit of a leap to make. 3D printing a building from the virtual particles of the quantum foam would take about a much energy as our sun would give off in a micronova. It would require a type II Kardashev civilization to make such an approach practical to other means of fabrication. Even the godlike Annunaki still had a need to require physical resources such as precious metals and water. The claim that RA makes in The Law of One materials that Thoth constructed the great pyramid out of thin air using his mental abilities alone is something I find incredulous, even if the rest of the RA material appears to be true.
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Has no one here seen the video of a guy moving a 10000 pound block with just a stick and fulcrum. Moves it like its a small refrigerator and all over the place too.
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I've seen it but forget his name. He built a private garden type area filled with those neat things.
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Coral Castle ?
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Just Wow.. that's big bump
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maybe there wasn't any mechanical work at play. maybe those buildings/objects manifested/materialized from the aether, at a time this world wasn't that 'dense'.
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That's a bit of a leap to make. 3D printing a building from the virtual particles of the quantum foam would take about a much energy as our sun would give off in a micronova. It would require a type II Kardashev civilization to make such an approach practical to other means of fabrication. Even the godlike Annunaki still had a need to require physical resources such as precious metals and water. The claim that RA makes in The Law of One materials that Thoth constructed the great pyramid out of thin air using his mental abilities alone is something I find incredulous, even if the rest of the RA material appears to be true.
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hmm interesting.

it just occured to me that I've never tried to materialize something out of 'thin air' during a lucid dream. will try that asap.
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Puma punku was built in a night and the pieces were flown in. That's a fucking fire base. Prefab parts.
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That maybe ties into the Band of Holes
is't not too far from there
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Re: Ancient Laser Cutting Technology Used All Over The Planet
It's just poured cement. Depending on the type of cement used (with a certain type of water, and some environmental conditions), it turns to stone after about 200 years.

No lasers were had.
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Absolute, total, idiotic bullshit.
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Has no one here seen the video of a guy moving a 10000 pound block with just a stick and fulcrum. Moves it like its a small refrigerator and all over the place too.
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I've seen it but forget his name. He built a private garden type area filled with those neat things.
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Coral Castle ?
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yup

Ed Leedskalnin. Got robbed at the castle's original location. then moved the entire structure by himself

There were numerous failed attempts by others using modern equipment to cut and move similar sized pieces of coral.

He was into ley lines. And wrote an extremely advanced book on magnetics
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maybe there wasn't any mechanical work at play. maybe those buildings/objects manifested/materialized from the aether, at a time this world wasn't that 'dense'.
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That's a bit of a leap to make. 3D printing a building from the virtual particles of the quantum foam would take about a much energy as our sun would give off in a micronova. It would require a type II Kardashev civilization to make such an approach practical to other means of fabrication. Even the godlike Annunaki still had a need to require physical resources such as precious metals and water. The claim that RA makes in The Law of One materials that Thoth constructed the great pyramid out of thin air using his mental abilities alone is something I find incredulous, even if the rest of the RA material appears to be true.
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hmm interesting.

it just occured to me that I've never tried to materialize something out of 'thin air' during a lucid dream. will try that asap.
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You bring up an interesting idea. What if the accounting of advanced spiritual entities creating edifices from the raw aether was actually describing the creation of an astral/etheric/higher dimensional equivalent of those structures in the 3D world. Perhaps the spiritual Great Pyramid was built first in the 5th or 6th vibrational layer to serve as a connection to the physical pyramid? This would make Thoth's claim about building it by himself true. I find that entities like Thoth and RA don't usually outright lie, but rather, often bend the truth with clever and esoteric reasoning.
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Cool post...thanks
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Using pebbles works great, for moving large stone blocks.
On a hard smooth surface.

I'd like to see someone do it on sand or dirt. And move a ten ton block, miles.
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Where's the direct evidence that such advanced technology existed?

Oh, they just forgot all about that high technology and went back to the stone age. I see.
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Plenty of direct evidence of high speed rotary cutting plus the symmetry of many of the statues, plus the razor blade tolerance of mating surfaces, the logistics and on and on and on the direct evidence is simply all over the place, even though archaeology does their best to hide it from the general public.


Just one look at the sheer cultural sophistication of many of the artifacts from the earliest periods - just tells anyone with commonsense that these were just not done by recent desert nomads - not a chance in hell! - only an 'archaeologist' could be stupid enough to suggest they were.


What they really don't want you to know is that there were previous civilisations, off world contact, regular cycles of destruction - they don't want people asking who survived this, what records did they leave, who has this knowledge now, what have they been up to for the last few millenia and how do they plan to survive the imminent Micro Nova of the sun.





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