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Dr. Novosel
User ID: 72007413 Croatia 08/24/2022 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a carnivore and losing weight fast. I eat once or twice a day, and off statins, and omeprazole(heartburn med). Next is hopefully BP med. On BP meds I averaged 140s over 90s. I now average 110s over 70s. This was after just 5 weeks. Quoting: Five Forty Four A.M. Carbs kill. So does big pharma. I had to take the plunge and trust myself and my body. No one else will, and doctors generally take one small course in nutrition. I read enough diabetic success stories how this works, and didn't care to become one. Meat good. Just curious what vitamins are you taking. I started a low low carb diet and was doing good but my energy was kaka. A friend on carnivore said I needed to take supplemental vitamins to help balance things. Dr. Novosel |
SystemsS
User ID: 39010236 Canada 08/24/2022 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I fast 16/8 And I mostly follow the Whole 30 for my 8hr eating window After 3 days my body and mind adjusted very well to the fasting My energy level is high and I've lost 20+ lbs of fat in the past month My grocery bill has dropped by 100 per week too seems like a win to me Last Edited by SystemsS on 08/24/2022 12:26 PM |
Scorched
User ID: 80365094 United States 08/24/2022 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ".mcg" is enough for a baby mouse. I take 25mg (.mg) Zinc daily - Just saying. Go vegetarian and eat a raw beet every day. Never be sick again. People are what they eat. Last Edited by Scorched on 08/24/2022 12:27 PM They have us completely surrounded...those poor bastards |
Danger Dan
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Quantum Joker
User ID: 84035568 Canada 08/24/2022 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and NO SOY . It's toxic bullshit. Includes that nasty fake ass soy meat. Stay away. I apologise..no coffee yet..lol. forgot to mention...eat all the eggs you desire. A whole foods, plant based diet means 100% plants. No animal products including eggs. Animal cholesterol is not good. "We must be clear that when it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry."--NIELS BOHR |
Quantum Joker
User ID: 84035568 Canada 08/24/2022 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a carnivore and losing weight fast. I eat once or twice a day, and off statins, and omeprazole(heartburn med). Next is hopefully BP med. On BP meds I averaged 140s over 90s. I now average 110s over 70s. This was after just 5 weeks. Quoting: Five Forty Four A.M. Carbs kill. So does big pharma. I had to take the plunge and trust myself and my body. No one else will, and doctors generally take one small course in nutrition. I read enough diabetic success stories how this works, and didn't care to become one. Meat good. Just curious what vitamins are you taking. I started a low low carb diet and was doing good but my energy was kaka. A friend on carnivore said I needed to take supplemental vitamins to help balance things. The carnivore diet is a fast track to heart disease. They may lose weight now, but they are building up plaque inside, which will eventually block bloodflow to their heart. Keto is not good. Meat is not good in excess of 5% of your diet. I haven't eaten it in 30 years, and no animal products in 25 years. I am in top shape with great blood work always. "We must be clear that when it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry."--NIELS BOHR |
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The_Meridian
Breshears is Off: Ask Me Why User ID: 82129370 United States 08/24/2022 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Diabetes isn’t a disease, it is self inflicted suicide through lack of self discipline. I should know because I had it. Then cured it permanently. And there is only one way to do it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79481559 Crush your insulin response as much as possible. This means prolonged fasting and intermittent fasting as a lifestyle forever. It’s the most natural state to live in. I cured my diabetes in 3 months. I lost 60 pounds by that point. I’m down even more now. Start your morning with fiber. Not that poison laxative bullshit Metamucil. Get some high quality soluable/insoluable organic plant fiber. This is mandatory and can probably almost cure diabetes on its own if taken 15 minutes before your only 2 small meals a day that have no sugar. Then only eat between noon and 6 pm. Snacking is ultimately what causes diabetes. Your body isn’t meant to snack. That’s what kills you. Once you’ve followed the moon to 6pm routine for a couple weeks you will have pretty much forgotten about food. This is when you can do a couple OMAD’s, or One Meal a Day each week. Then work your way up to skipping a day of eating once a week. If you have supreme self-discipline you can jump right into a 19 day fast and that will kill diabetes forever. Your doctor will say you can’t do that because your doctor is a fucking criminal who wants to make money off you as your legs rot off. Fasting is the ONLY way, and it is a 100% cure to diabetes. Good luck. Do your research. Dr Eric Berg on YouTube is good. Yes, although I might ease off on the "Self-inflicted suicide" rhetoric. It's not shameful to enjoy life and that includes foods that taste good. We're all going to die of something, some day and a good most of us believe that whatever the cause is already determined. Imagine some poor shlub spends their entire life being the asshole who won't have slice of cake at a birthday party or can't try the homemade pumpkin pie that someone spent 3 hours on for Thanksgiving? Now imagine that guy dead at 37 because some drunk buttfuck smashed into him at 100 Mph while he was going to the joyless diabetic convention in Provo, Utah? We all have our little lacks of self discipline. It's not suicide, it's life. That said, all things in moderation. That includes GIVING A SHIT WHAT HAPPENS. See? (B)ullshit™ always needs an amplified bullhorn demanding kneeling subservience - or else.- SyncAsFunk The light within me always draws me back to make the dark decision to leave the false counterfeit light. -New Heart |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77552792 United States 08/24/2022 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Switching to a keto diet was immediately effective for me. It returned my blood sugar from spiking over 300 and rarely going below 140 to going as low as 80 with normal daily highs of around 150 after meals. After being on a strict keto diet for a month, I was able to eat normally and my blood sugar still remained much lower than before the keto diet. Fasting also improves my body's ability to manage blood sugar. |
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Mother Maggie
User ID: 84007494 United States 08/24/2022 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is caused by dietary fat. This has been known for decades. Anyone reading this can easily verify this by following one of many protocols free one the Web. DYOR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80397575 Fat stops insulin from its job of sugar metabolism. Sugar thus builds up in the blood. Sugar gets the blame. The world is run by idiots. [link to nutritionfacts.org (secure)] I wish you good health and the good sense to avoid the keto bro science. Nope. Removing carbs and sugar is 100% effective. I know from personal experience that my blood sugar spikes precisely due to carbs & sugar. Days when I eat only protein and fat with vegetables, there is no significant spike. You're probably a climate tard and a liberal. and anything I eat ... fats and proteins also raise my sugar... doesn't matter. but that said.. I got my diabetes from a pneumonia vaccine that changed my dna some place probably.. I don't know. But congrats to you.. I can eat pure KETO and my sugar is just as high and in fact I don't feel as well. Before my diabetes the KETO I went on quite some years ago now.. 30 +... I think.. I did loose 60 pounds and and I lost my genetic hyperinsulinism as long as I kept carbs lower... But everything changed after my 2nd pneumonia shot... within WEEKS... and essentially I produce no insulin at all now. If I am dieting or skip a meal.. exercise et all.. and begin to breakdown my glycogen stores and fat.. I have to take insulin to use them. I managed my early diabetes similar to how you have managed yours above... but over time it did not help. If I exercise and dig into my storage my sugar goes up and I can't use it without insulin. Last Edited by Mother Maggie on 08/24/2022 01:30 PM Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
BoatyMcBoatface
(OP) User ID: 77825331 United States 08/24/2022 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wanted to say I tried the vanadium drink you recommended and it clearly spiked my blood pressure, not good! I believe in chromium but the vanadium has warnings about blood pressure with use. Also very strange is Bcomplexes have spiked my blood pressure any cause for that?I need b vitamins buc tahw taused that?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83820068 Thanks for sharing this. I'm going try just chromium and zinc, then. My blood pressure isn't quite where it should be but better than where it was at in November. I use B vitamins to aide in nerve repair. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Eilonwy
User ID: 83015319 United States 08/24/2022 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to ggenereux.blog (secure)] "The question that Banting and Best did not answer was why was the human pancreas failing in the first place? Maybe, like with most doctors today, they too were taught to believe that diabetes and all chronic diseases are just “bad luck”. Sadly, that ridiculous “bad luck” theory of disease causation is very widely accepted and has gone almost unchallenged even today. But, obviously “bad luck” does not cause organs to fail. It’s equally obvious is that the stupid “bad luck” theory is dead wrong because North Americans could not have gotten vastly more “unlucky” over the last several decades. There’s also no way that people living in the American Southeast are significantly more unlucky than those living in the Northwest." “A grower of turnips or shaper of clay, a commot Farmer or a king--every man is a hero if he strives more for others than for himself alone.” Lloyd Alexander, The Castle of Llyr |
Eilonwy
User ID: 83015319 United States 08/24/2022 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This might not be everyone's problem, but it might be some people's problem: Quoting: Eilonwy [link to ggenereux.blog (secure)] "The question that Banting and Best did not answer was why was the human pancreas failing in the first place? Maybe, like with most doctors today, they too were taught to believe that diabetes and all chronic diseases are just “bad luck”. Sadly, that ridiculous “bad luck” theory of disease causation is very widely accepted and has gone almost unchallenged even today. But, obviously “bad luck” does not cause organs to fail. It’s equally obvious is that the stupid “bad luck” theory is dead wrong because North Americans could not have gotten vastly more “unlucky” over the last several decades. There’s also no way that people living in the American Southeast are significantly more unlucky than those living in the Northwest." ie, vitamin A toxicity. Some might expand this to plant-food toxicity in general. This may be why the carnivore diet is helpful to some. (all vitamin A begins as a plant pigment, even the so-called "animal" version) Last Edited by Eilonwy on 08/24/2022 01:33 PM “A grower of turnips or shaper of clay, a commot Farmer or a king--every man is a hero if he strives more for others than for himself alone.” Lloyd Alexander, The Castle of Llyr |
BoatyMcBoatface
(OP) User ID: 77825331 United States 08/24/2022 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP did you go down the tumeric avenue? Curcumin being a very strong anti-inflammatory. Quoting: Cebeij I've thought about it, but haven't tried it yet. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Eilonwy
User ID: 83015319 United States 08/24/2022 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This might not be everyone's problem, but it might be some people's problem: Quoting: Eilonwy [link to ggenereux.blog (secure)] "The question that Banting and Best did not answer was why was the human pancreas failing in the first place? Maybe, like with most doctors today, they too were taught to believe that diabetes and all chronic diseases are just “bad luck”. Sadly, that ridiculous “bad luck” theory of disease causation is very widely accepted and has gone almost unchallenged even today. But, obviously “bad luck” does not cause organs to fail. It’s equally obvious is that the stupid “bad luck” theory is dead wrong because North Americans could not have gotten vastly more “unlucky” over the last several decades. There’s also no way that people living in the American Southeast are significantly more unlucky than those living in the Northwest." ie, vitamin A toxicity. Some might expand this to plant-food toxicity in general. This may be why the carnivore diet is helpful to some. (all vitamin A begins as a plant pigment, even the so-called "animal" version) This explains to me why so many agricultural societies base their daily meals on plain carbs like rice, wheat or potatoes. A person going low carb and high colored-vegetable might be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Are you one of those people that has gotten less healthy the harder you have tried to be more healthy? Many here have stated they are taking multi-vitamins. I'm pretty sure they are all chock full of vitamin A and various carotenes. Last Edited by Eilonwy on 08/24/2022 01:45 PM “A grower of turnips or shaper of clay, a commot Farmer or a king--every man is a hero if he strives more for others than for himself alone.” Lloyd Alexander, The Castle of Llyr |
Mother Maggie
User ID: 84007494 United States 08/24/2022 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP did you go down the tumeric avenue? Curcumin being a very strong anti-inflammatory. Quoting: Cebeij I've thought about it, but haven't tried it yet. If you have trouble with NSAIDS don't go there..I got the same problems with that as NSAIDS I cannot take. Right down to the sore tongue that swells if I use too much.. I can use small amounts in cooking off and one. Last Edited by Mother Maggie on 08/24/2022 01:37 PM Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80627687 United States 08/24/2022 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is available in the frozen section at most Indian grocery stores and just sautee the gourd to add with your salads etc. Also available in bottled juice form. Take suggested quantity before meal times but be forewarned that it is an acquired taste. My a1c dropped from 12.9 to 6.5 in just a few months time. Good luck |
BoatyMcBoatface
(OP) User ID: 77825331 United States 08/24/2022 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP did you go down the tumeric avenue? Curcumin being a very strong anti-inflammatory. Quoting: Cebeij I've thought about it, but haven't tried it yet. If you have trouble with NSAIDS don't go there..I got the same problems with that as NSAIDS I cannot take. Right down to the sore tongue that swells if I use too much.. I can use small amounts in cooking off and one. I've never had problems with NSAIDS. My liver, kidney and pancreas levels all are normal. My issue is with insulin resistance, which appears to be reversing with everything I've described. Getting a stepping exercise machine that I will start using with my standing desk during work. That should round everything out and complete my goals. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75287734 United States 08/24/2022 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is caused by dietary fat. This has been known for decades. Anyone reading this can easily verify this by following one of many protocols free one the Web. DYOR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80397575 Fat stops insulin from its job of sugar metabolism. Sugar thus builds up in the blood. Sugar gets the blame. The world is run by idiots. [link to nutritionfacts.org (secure)] I wish you good health and the good sense to avoid the keto bro science. You are correct. I tried the Adkins, Paleo, Keto for years as i slid from pre-diabetes to full blown out of control diabetes. Although the low carb diets did help lower my blood sugar, I couldn't stand to stay strict for more than a few months. My wife wanted to go plant based, which seemed counter intuitive to low carb, but I played along. surprisingly after a few weeks all my numbers improved. For me plant based has been easier to maintain than low carb. There's hardly any fat in my diet now, and for sure less sugar... but still kind of carby with oatmeal, and more grains than you would expect, but my A1C is in the slot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84048375 Canada 08/24/2022 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a carnivore and losing weight fast. I eat once or twice a day, and off statins, and omeprazole(heartburn med). Next is hopefully BP med. On BP meds I averaged 140s over 90s. I now average 110s over 70s. This was after just 5 weeks. Quoting: Five Forty Four A.M. Carbs kill. So does big pharma. I had to take the plunge and trust myself and my body. No one else will, and doctors generally take one small course in nutrition. I read enough diabetic success stories how this works, and didn't care to become one. Meat good. Just curious what vitamins are you taking. I started a low low carb diet and was doing good but my energy was kaka. A friend on carnivore said I needed to take supplemental vitamins to help balance things. How long were you on low Carb? It is normal to have low energy levels for a week or two and then energy levels shoot up. Also you may need to up your sodium intake when doing keto. |
Eilonwy
User ID: 83015319 United States 08/24/2022 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just wanted to say that I'm pushing 60 and am 111 pounds, and eat loads of carbs. I've been on a lowered vitamin a diet for several years. My migraines went away after about one year. I do get more exercise than most. Diabetes doesn't seem to be my issue. The owner of the vitamin a list that I pointed to above has done lots of testing to show that many of his markers have improved since lowering vitamin a. He has also reached his target weight. He is over sixty. In the past I tried many special diets including low carb, low fat, gluten and dairy free. This seems to be the one that I needed. My vitamin A intake was high for my entire life. I didn't realize it though, until I did the math. Last Edited by Eilonwy on 08/24/2022 02:39 PM “A grower of turnips or shaper of clay, a commot Farmer or a king--every man is a hero if he strives more for others than for himself alone.” Lloyd Alexander, The Castle of Llyr |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84048375 Canada 08/24/2022 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Switching to a keto diet was immediately effective for me. It returned my blood sugar from spiking over 300 and rarely going below 140 to going as low as 80 with normal daily highs of around 150 after meals. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77552792 After being on a strict keto diet for a month, I was able to eat normally and my blood sugar still remained much lower than before the keto diet. Fasting also improves my body's ability to manage blood sugar. Keto for a month or 2 is usually enough to reset insulin resistance for most and usually lasts many months especially if sugars are avoided like the plague. Those with a severely damaged pancreas might need longer. |
Oracle Prime
User ID: 83873877 United States 08/24/2022 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is caused by dietary fat. This has been known for decades. Anyone reading this can easily verify this by following one of many protocols free one the Web. DYOR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80397575 Fat stops insulin from its job of sugar metabolism. Sugar thus builds up in the blood. Sugar gets the blame. The world is run by idiots. [link to nutritionfacts.org (secure)] I wish you good health and the good sense to avoid the keto bro science. You have the components, but that's not what is going on in Type 2's. This excellent video explains the differences for Type 1 and 2 and why they need to be treated differently. Also, people need to stop treating the symptom (high blood sugar) and treat the underlying issue. He explains it all. There is hope for reversal - with work. |
Oracle Prime
User ID: 83873877 United States 08/24/2022 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I fast 16/8 Quoting: SystemsS And I mostly follow the Whole 30 for my 8hr eating window After 3 days my body and mind adjusted very well to the fasting My energy level is high and I've lost 20+ lbs of fat in the past month My grocery bill has dropped by 100 per week too seems like a win to me This is something I hope to start soon. For your 8 hour window for eating, do you eat only 2 meals or how do you handle it? Thanks in advance. |
Oracle Prime
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