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Type 2 Diabetics come on in! Natural remedies..

 
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Oracle Prime said:
...This excellent video explains the differences for Type 1 and 2 and why they need to be treated differently.
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The article above that I pointed to above actually posits the idea that both are caused by vitamin A toxicity.

type 1: in the pancreas (surface cells stop making insulin)
type 2: in the cells that are now exhibiting insulin resistance

It is quite possible to have both.

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Black seed oil, cinnamon, chromium picolinate, grape seed extract

I believe diabetes is somewhat autoimmune, and related to systemic mycoplasma
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Neanderthals lived a short life in part due to meat they consumed. Don't believe the carnivore trend. A Mediterranean diet rich in Extra virgin olive oil daily, low in simple carbs and rich in nutritious and fulfilling fruits and veggies. I've lost 35 lbs and don't suffer at all. Olive oil is from dry climates like Crete and Morocco are the highest in polyphenols. Also less meat and more fish. Thousands of studies support the Mediterranean diet and most blue zones are Mediterranean diets with olive oil and vinegar consumed daily.
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A bunch of people have said keto..cut the carbs

But you seem to be looking a miracle “dingleberry tea” to cure you instead of a diet that actually works
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keto, serious fasting

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This probiotic produces a similar effect in the gut that a keto diet produces. Got mine yesterday, but being cautious about taking two probiotics at a time.

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This study shows that I can take the two together. We'll see how things go.
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It is caused by dietary fat. This has been known for decades. Anyone reading this can easily verify this by following one of many protocols free one the Web. DYOR.

Fat stops insulin from its job of sugar metabolism. Sugar thus builds up in the blood. Sugar gets the blame.

The world is run by idiots.

[link to nutritionfacts.org (secure)]

I wish you good health and the good sense to avoid the keto bro science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80397575


Nope.

Removing carbs and sugar is 100% effective. I know from personal experience that my blood sugar spikes precisely due to carbs & sugar. Days when I eat only protein and fat with vegetables, there is no significant spike.

You're probably a climate tard and a liberal.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


and anything I eat ... fats and proteins also raise my sugar... doesn't matter.

but that said.. I got my diabetes from a pneumonia vaccine that changed my dna some place probably.. I don't know.

But congrats to you.. I can eat pure KETO and my sugar is just as high and in fact I don't feel as well.

Before my diabetes the KETO I went on quite some years ago now.. 30 +... I think.. I did loose 60 pounds and and I lost my genetic hyperinsulinism as long as I kept carbs lower...

But everything changed after my 2nd pneumonia shot... within WEEKS... and essentially I produce no insulin at all now.

If I am dieting or skip a meal.. exercise et all.. and begin to breakdown my glycogen stores and fat.. I have to take insulin to use them.

I managed my early diabetes similar to how you have managed yours above... but over time it did not help. If I exercise and dig into my storage my sugar goes up and I can't use it without insulin.
 Quoting: Mother Maggie


Fats do NOT effect insulin, protein does if you over eat it and always consume protein WITH fat like in nature.

It's ALL about the insulin.

Your weight, your health, your blood sugar, everything comes down to your insulin. Control it w Keto and Fasting period.

Type 2 diabetes can be completely reversed, FACT

Need guidance? Want to be serious and fix your health?

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Go fix yourselves!
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This probiotic produces a similar effect in the gut that a keto diet produces. Got mine yesterday, but being cautious about taking two probiotics at a time.

Akkermansia muciniphila
[link to link.springer.com (secure)]

This study shows that I can take the two together. We'll see how things go.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


That's cool, just know when you consume anything you spike insulin. You need 18 to 20 hour windows daily with ZERO insulin spike and occasionally (once every couple of months) a 2 to 3 day fast (48 plus hour window) with no insulin and that will reverse insulin resistance and diabetes in due time, COMPLETELY

When you do eat and spike insulin, if you avoid sugar and almost all or at least MOST carbs then you won't get huge spikes and it will baseline far quicker. You can also start taking and eating cinnamon daily, in your coffee and tea, and also consume in capsule form and that will enhance as well.

All ya need,

God Bless!
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Thanks, I've been working on my diet as-well...

I have dietary restrictions, HBP & Type II...

This helps...
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It is caused by dietary fat. This has been known for decades. Anyone reading this can easily verify this by following one of many protocols free one the Web. DYOR.

Fat stops insulin from its job of sugar metabolism. Sugar thus builds up in the blood. Sugar gets the blame.

The world is run by idiots.

[link to nutritionfacts.org (secure)]

I wish you good health and the good sense to avoid the keto bro science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80397575


That is 100% completely false and terrible information

NOBODY follow that or you will worsen your health significantly. I'm sorry, that is ignorant aF!
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Thanks, I've been working on my diet as-well...

I have dietary restrictions, HBP & Type II...

This helps...
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Keto and fasting, intermittent and longterm occasionally will solve your problems, every single one and very quickly. You will never look back. Look at the names I posted above, sub their YouTube channels and enjoy the rest of your very much extended life!

Godbless
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Thanks, I've been working on my diet as-well...

I have dietary restrictions, HBP & Type II...

This helps...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83758682


For you 2 extra tips

1 Don't lower your salt like your Dr is telling you, big mistake


2 Also when following my advice you will soon start experiencing lightheadedness and feel feint sometimes when standing. That means it's time to lower your statins, make sure dr is seeing test results and agreeing but they will.

3 statins are pure poison and you need to be able to get off those as soon as possible. Keto and fasting is the lightspeed path, the healthy path. You will soon never need them again.

Take care!
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This probiotic produces a similar effect in the gut that a keto diet produces. Got mine yesterday, but being cautious about taking two probiotics at a time.

Akkermansia muciniphila
[link to link.springer.com (secure)]

This study shows that I can take the two together. We'll see how things go.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


That's cool, just know when you consume anything you spike insulin. You need 18 to 20 hour windows daily with ZERO insulin spike and occasionally (once every couple of months) a 2 to 3 day fast (48 plus hour window) with no insulin and that will reverse insulin resistance and diabetes in due time, COMPLETELY

When you do eat and spike insulin, if you avoid sugar and almost all or at least MOST carbs then you won't get huge spikes and it will baseline far quicker. You can also start taking and eating cinnamon daily, in your coffee and tea, and also consume in capsule form and that will enhance as well.

All ya need,

God Bless!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82864988


Thanks! The only thing I'm not doing is fasting. I will look into adding that to my routine. I have less than 30 grams of carbs per day, and sugar is out 100%. Replaced with monk fruit sweetener.
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This probiotic produces a similar effect in the gut that a keto diet produces. Got mine yesterday, but being cautious about taking two probiotics at a time.

Akkermansia muciniphila
[link to link.springer.com (secure)]

This study shows that I can take the two together. We'll see how things go.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


That's cool, just know when you consume anything you spike insulin. You need 18 to 20 hour windows daily with ZERO insulin spike and occasionally (once every couple of months) a 2 to 3 day fast (48 plus hour window) with no insulin and that will reverse insulin resistance and diabetes in due time, COMPLETELY

When you do eat and spike insulin, if you avoid sugar and almost all or at least MOST carbs then you won't get huge spikes and it will baseline far quicker. You can also start taking and eating cinnamon daily, in your coffee and tea, and also consume in capsule form and that will enhance as well.

All ya need,

God Bless!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82864988


Thanks! The only thing I'm not doing is fasting. I will look into adding that to my routine. I have less than 30 grams of carbs per day, and sugar is out 100%. Replaced with monk fruit sweetener.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


You have already done the hard part my friend!

Because of those moves you took you will be able to fast very easily. After first few weeks of intermittent fasting do a 24 hour fast. Then 3 or 4 weeks later a 48. Stay with 48 hour fasts once a month for a couple of months and I bet you'll already be out of the woods, if not just keep going. This is THE WAY.
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This probiotic produces a similar effect in the gut that a keto diet produces. Got mine yesterday, but being cautious about taking two probiotics at a time.

Akkermansia muciniphila
[link to link.springer.com (secure)]

This study shows that I can take the two together. We'll see how things go.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


That's cool, just know when you consume anything you spike insulin. You need 18 to 20 hour windows daily with ZERO insulin spike and occasionally (once every couple of months) a 2 to 3 day fast (48 plus hour window) with no insulin and that will reverse insulin resistance and diabetes in due time, COMPLETELY

When you do eat and spike insulin, if you avoid sugar and almost all or at least MOST carbs then you won't get huge spikes and it will baseline far quicker. You can also start taking and eating cinnamon daily, in your coffee and tea, and also consume in capsule form and that will enhance as well.

All ya need,

God Bless!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82864988


Thanks! The only thing I'm not doing is fasting. I will look into adding that to my routine. I have less than 30 grams of carbs per day, and sugar is out 100%. Replaced with monk fruit sweetener.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


I will warn ya, you will get addicted to fasting, feels absolutely incredible. The problem isn't fasting but making yourself break it. Enjoy!
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This probiotic produces a similar effect in the gut that a keto diet produces. Got mine yesterday, but being cautious about taking two probiotics at a time.

Akkermansia muciniphila
[link to link.springer.com (secure)]

This study shows that I can take the two together. We'll see how things go.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


That's cool, just know when you consume anything you spike insulin. You need 18 to 20 hour windows daily with ZERO insulin spike and occasionally (once every couple of months) a 2 to 3 day fast (48 plus hour window) with no insulin and that will reverse insulin resistance and diabetes in due time, COMPLETELY

When you do eat and spike insulin, if you avoid sugar and almost all or at least MOST carbs then you won't get huge spikes and it will baseline far quicker. You can also start taking and eating cinnamon daily, in your coffee and tea, and also consume in capsule form and that will enhance as well.

All ya need,

God Bless!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82864988


Thanks! The only thing I'm not doing is fasting. I will look into adding that to my routine. I have less than 30 grams of carbs per day, and sugar is out 100%. Replaced with monk fruit sweetener.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


You have already done the hard part my friend!

Because of those moves you took you will be able to fast very easily. After first few weeks of intermittent fasting do a 24 hour fast. Then 3 or 4 weeks later a 48. Stay with 48 hour fasts once a month for a couple of months and I bet you'll already be out of the woods, if not just keep going. This is THE WAY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82864988


Had some chicken wings this morning and haven't eaten since. So I'm on the way with intermittent fasting.. Not even feeling hungry! My Matcha tea concoction helps reduce appetite.
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Research Rebekah Farmer and the carnivore diet
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Animal fat which used to be in our foods, stopped humans eating, or over eating. It tells your brain your full up.

Once they took animal fat out of foods, and milk, it was the major reason for obesity epidemic in west.

Disproving that animal fat is bad for you, no its good for you, as it helps your body become full, ie signal to the brain to stop you eating.

Its why obesity is only past few decades, of when they got rid of animal fat in milk mainly, as milk is such an important food for humans, and is in so many things.

People over eat, as the foods they eat simply do not have the animal fat in them, so your body signals the brain that your body is full.

Op, you have to take what i said, and work with it.
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My sister just got diagnosed with it and she's coming to visit me. I'm hoping she'll just eat what I have while she's here and that what I feed her makes her feel well enough that it makes her want to change up her diet. Of course,it always takes a lot of encouragement and creative ways to keep her from sneaking off to a fast food place. Ugh.
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I started working on my belly fat and lost 20 pounds and started watching my food and my a1c went from 11 in December to 6.0 in July. I just started walking every day and am up to a mile and a half. Doesn`t sound like much but I was completely out of shape.
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I started working on my belly fat and lost 20 pounds and started watching my food and my a1c went from 11 in December to 6.0 in July. I just started walking every day and am up to a mile and a half. Doesn`t sound like much but I was completely out of shape.
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It was right after I cought covid that my blood sugar went nut`s.
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fantastic list. thanks for the excellent info
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I understand Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar works somewhat for diabetes...
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Keep carbohydrates between 0 and 25 grams/day. Pick up heavy shit and put it down. Repeat.

I went from above 7 to a 4.4 A1C.

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Gluten free, dairy free, exercise 3 days on and 1 day off rotation, and 18/6 fasting.
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Has this routine helped with weight loss?
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Yes. Down 25 lbs.
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Gave up all refined sugar, beer, white bread.

Stuck to protein as much as possible.

Glass a wine was ok every other day.

Took 2 weeks and had no symptoms.
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Gave up all refined sugar, beer, white bread.

Stuck to protein as much as possible.

Glass a wine was ok every other day.

Took 2 weeks and had no symptoms.
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I eat all of those things and don't have diabetes.
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Gave up all refined sugar, beer, white bread.

Stuck to protein as much as possible.

Glass a wine was ok every other day.

Took 2 weeks and had no symptoms.
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I eat all of those things and don't have diabetes.
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I think you may be right that once you have diabetes you can't eat those things. But I no longer think those things CAUSE diabetes. And giving them up will not CURE diabetes.

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That's cool, just know when you consume anything you spike insulin. You need 18 to 20 hour windows daily with ZERO insulin spike and occasionally (once every couple of months) a 2 to 3 day fast (48 plus hour window) with no insulin and that will reverse insulin resistance and diabetes in due time, COMPLETELY

When you do eat and spike insulin, if you avoid sugar and almost all or at least MOST carbs then you won't get huge spikes and it will baseline far quicker. You can also start taking and eating cinnamon daily, in your coffee and tea, and also consume in capsule form and that will enhance as well.

All ya need,

God Bless!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82864988


Thanks! The only thing I'm not doing is fasting. I will look into adding that to my routine. I have less than 30 grams of carbs per day, and sugar is out 100%. Replaced with monk fruit sweetener.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


You have already done the hard part my friend!

Because of those moves you took you will be able to fast very easily. After first few weeks of intermittent fasting do a 24 hour fast. Then 3 or 4 weeks later a 48. Stay with 48 hour fasts once a month for a couple of months and I bet you'll already be out of the woods, if not just keep going. This is THE WAY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82864988


Had some chicken wings this morning and haven't eaten since. So I'm on the way with intermittent fasting.. Not even feeling hungry! My Matcha tea concoction helps reduce appetite.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


ABSOLUTELY! Others that will as well are fresh Lemon water, never bottled lemon juice btw, also bulletproof coffee (look into that) or just coffee in general. Just don't put sugar in it obviously and use whole cream, never half n half or skim. GOOD JOB!!!!!
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I understand Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar works somewhat for diabetes...
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It does! I should have included it in my drink list above. It regulates blood sugar like cinnamon as well. Get vitamin in your body! ACV is also awesome





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