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DiggDugg
User ID: 42528979 United States 08/28/2022 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread, is as the title suggests, a Digg for truth. (The title was suggested by one of GLP's members.....guess who? hahaaaaa. i thought the title was perfect, cuz there will be some digg-ing in this thread.) Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces There will possibly be disagreement, but hey, what's a discussion/debate without disagreement, right? We will be discussing God, and His existence or non-existence. For me, i will be referring to the God of the Bible, and attempting to state why i believd in this God of the Bible. Welcome to the adventure. I am ready to be thrown to the wolves. DiggDugg The first known use of misanthrope was in 1683. |
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ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces
(OP) User ID: 71212848 United States 08/28/2022 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What really amazed me when the Lord found me (I wasn't looking) is that I always thought I would have to give up my beliefs to convert. It turns out all the things I believe about the nature of consciousness, observation, the universe around us and our place in it - none of that went away. It just got contextualized. The Bible as taught by most churches is a subtle but inherently flawed interpretation, in my opinion. The Bible itself is far more open, direct, and in some cases even downright weirder than how it's taught. Quoting: Ex-Atheist 83338824 One great example is angels. As an atheist I thought they were just supposed to be glowing people with wings or little flying babies. In reality they are almost Lovecraftian in some regards - massive, imposing, monstrously loud, and not, at least in my case, particularly fond of humans. You have GOT to tell me about these not particularly fond of humans angels. In the dreams I had over a two week period, I kept being called up a mountain, and in this mountain was a dwelling. The entrance was open from the outside, but inside, the door to (whatever*) room I kept being directed into was guarded by two massive creatures. In some respects they resembled the lamassu from Mesopotamia - sort of horse-like, but with human features and wings. 10-12' tall at least. And that's not really what they looked like, that was just how my brain could interpret them, if that makes sense. They had a shifting energy that was different from how they looked in front of me, almost like a "glitching" for lack of a better word. Honestly, they were pretty intimidating. They said nothing to me but the energy coming from them was one of tremendous dislike, to put it lightly. I assume from the fact that I was a pretty staunch atheist at the time. * The room I wound up in in every dream does not match the descriptions I have read of a "throne room". It was maybe 300-400' in diameter with one side open where you could see for hundreds of miles out into the clouds. I never "saw God" but every time, I was hit with a blinding light and a booming voice inside my head. I wasn't allowed to speak, just listen. I still don't understand exactly what happened, but the message was loud and clear that I needed to pick up a Bible and start learning. Along with a few personal revelations that wound up being true immediately afterwards. I've never been back to that place. I've tried! That reminds me of Saul being knocked from his horse and blinded. i do believe that angels are not little fat babies, but are rather tall, and possibly fierce looking. That is possibly why when they were seen by various people in the Bible they told the people 'do not fear'. i haven't actually "seen" angels, but i have seen them with my spiritual eyes, so to speak. They were tall, illuminated, and stood "guard" so to speak, over me when i was in dire straits. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
Ex-Atheist User ID: 83338824 United States 08/28/2022 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm guessing I stepped into something I didn't plan on here lol. Something tells me I'm missing part of the story. welll lets enjoy and see the above right? I'm always game for a good debate, especially as I have been on both sides of it. In fact, the OP and I are now friendly after a fairly significant series of posts where we were quite rude to each other. At some point we both backed off and realized we had way more in common than we did in disagreement. Which I believe is actually the case at GLP with most people, yourself included. We're all here searching for the truth because we haven't taken society's brainwashing. That's the most important thing to remember - not that our views on truth differ, that our views on the lies are the same. |
ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces
(OP) User ID: 71212848 United States 08/28/2022 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread, is as the title suggests, a Digg for truth. (The title was suggested by one of GLP's members.....guess who? hahaaaaa. i thought the title was perfect, cuz there will be some digg-ing in this thread.) Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces There will possibly be disagreement, but hey, what's a discussion/debate without disagreement, right? We will be discussing God, and His existence or non-existence. For me, i will be referring to the God of the Bible, and attempting to state why i believd in this God of the Bible. Welcome to the adventure. Banning my ip was not cool btw. Lets rock i didn't ban you, Digg. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
DiggDugg
User ID: 42528979 United States 08/28/2022 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What really amazed me when the Lord found me (I wasn't looking) is that I always thought I would have to give up my beliefs to convert. It turns out all the things I believe about the nature of consciousness, observation, the universe around us and our place in it - none of that went away. It just got contextualized. The Bible as taught by most churches is a subtle but inherently flawed interpretation, in my opinion. The Bible itself is far more open, direct, and in some cases even downright weirder than how it's taught. Quoting: Ex-Atheist 83338824 One great example is angels. As an atheist I thought they were just supposed to be glowing people with wings or little flying babies. In reality they are almost Lovecraftian in some regards - massive, imposing, monstrously loud, and not, at least in my case, particularly fond of humans. You have GOT to tell me about these not particularly fond of humans angels. In the dreams I had over a two week period, I kept being called up a mountain, and in this mountain was a dwelling. The entrance was open from the outside, but inside, the door to (whatever*) room I kept being directed into was guarded by two massive creatures. In some respects they resembled the lamassu from Mesopotamia - sort of horse-like, but with human features and wings. 10-12' tall at least. And that's not really what they looked like, that was just how my brain could interpret them, if that makes sense. They had a shifting energy that was different from how they looked in front of me, almost like a "glitching" for lack of a better word. Honestly, they were pretty intimidating. They said nothing to me but the energy coming from them was one of tremendous dislike, to put it lightly. I assume from the fact that I was a pretty staunch atheist at the time. * The room I wound up in in every dream does not match the descriptions I have read of a "throne room". It was maybe 300-400' in diameter with one side open where you could see for hundreds of miles out into the clouds. I never "saw God" but every time, I was hit with a blinding light and a booming voice inside my head. I wasn't allowed to speak, just listen. I still don't understand exactly what happened, but the message was loud and clear that I needed to pick up a Bible and start learning. Along with a few personal revelations that wound up being true immediately afterwards. I've never been back to that place. I've tried! That reminds me of Saul being knocked from his horse and blinded. i do believe that angels are not little fat babies, but are rather tall, and possibly fierce looking. That is possibly why when they were seen by various people in the Bible they told the people 'do not fear'. i haven't actually "seen" angels, but i have seen them with my spiritual eyes, so to speak. They were tall, illuminated, and stood "guard" so to speak, over me when i was in dire straits. You've quoted and not cited. I'd like an individual statement not from a book if that's ok? DiggDugg The first known use of misanthrope was in 1683. |
ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces
(OP) User ID: 71212848 United States 08/28/2022 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread, is as the title suggests, a Digg for truth. (The title was suggested by one of GLP's members.....guess who? hahaaaaa. i thought the title was perfect, cuz there will be some digg-ing in this thread.) Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces There will possibly be disagreement, but hey, what's a discussion/debate without disagreement, right? We will be discussing God, and His existence or non-existence. For me, i will be referring to the God of the Bible, and attempting to state why i believd in this God of the Bible. Welcome to the adventure. Banning my ip was not cool btw. Lets rock you made this personal, so what you will see is real. LOL! i didn't ban you Digg. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces
(OP) User ID: 71212848 United States 08/28/2022 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces You have GOT to tell me about these not particularly fond of humans angels. In the dreams I had over a two week period, I kept being called up a mountain, and in this mountain was a dwelling. The entrance was open from the outside, but inside, the door to (whatever*) room I kept being directed into was guarded by two massive creatures. In some respects they resembled the lamassu from Mesopotamia - sort of horse-like, but with human features and wings. 10-12' tall at least. And that's not really what they looked like, that was just how my brain could interpret them, if that makes sense. They had a shifting energy that was different from how they looked in front of me, almost like a "glitching" for lack of a better word. Honestly, they were pretty intimidating. They said nothing to me but the energy coming from them was one of tremendous dislike, to put it lightly. I assume from the fact that I was a pretty staunch atheist at the time. * The room I wound up in in every dream does not match the descriptions I have read of a "throne room". It was maybe 300-400' in diameter with one side open where you could see for hundreds of miles out into the clouds. I never "saw God" but every time, I was hit with a blinding light and a booming voice inside my head. I wasn't allowed to speak, just listen. I still don't understand exactly what happened, but the message was loud and clear that I needed to pick up a Bible and start learning. Along with a few personal revelations that wound up being true immediately afterwards. I've never been back to that place. I've tried! That reminds me of Saul being knocked from his horse and blinded. i do believe that angels are not little fat babies, but are rather tall, and possibly fierce looking. That is possibly why when they were seen by various people in the Bible they told the people 'do not fear'. i haven't actually "seen" angels, but i have seen them with my spiritual eyes, so to speak. They were tall, illuminated, and stood "guard" so to speak, over me when i was in dire straits. You've quoted and not cited. I'd like an individual statement not from a book if that's ok? Not cited what, Digg? "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
DiggDugg
User ID: 42528979 United States 08/28/2022 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread, is as the title suggests, a Digg for truth. (The title was suggested by one of GLP's members.....guess who? hahaaaaa. i thought the title was perfect, cuz there will be some digg-ing in this thread.) Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces There will possibly be disagreement, but hey, what's a discussion/debate without disagreement, right? We will be discussing God, and His existence or non-existence. For me, i will be referring to the God of the Bible, and attempting to state why i believd in this God of the Bible. Welcome to the adventure. Banning my ip was not cool btw. Lets rock you made this personal, so what you will see is real. LOL! i didn't ban you Digg. Well, someone banned my IP. It's all good. Lets continue and realize you are wrong. DiggDugg The first known use of misanthrope was in 1683. |
Ex-Atheist User ID: 83338824 United States 08/28/2022 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That reminds me of Saul being knocked from his horse and blinded. i do believe that angels are not little fat babies, but are rather tall, and possibly fierce looking. That is possibly why when they were seen by various people in the Bible they told the people 'do not fear'. Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces i haven't actually "seen" angels, but i have seen them with my spiritual eyes, so to speak. They were tall, illuminated, and stood "guard" so to speak, over me when i was in dire straits. That's amazing. It sounds similar. I'll need to read more on Paul. This is all still pretty new to me, this all happened in early December of 2019. So I have a lot of learning I am still doing. |
Zovalex
User ID: 84076221 United States 08/28/2022 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . We're all here searching for the truth because we haven't taken society's brainwashing. Quoting: Ex-Atheist 83338824 You do not seek Truth. The vast majority seek only confirmation bias that supports their existing religious beliefs. . “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces
(OP) User ID: 71212848 United States 08/28/2022 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces Well, someone banned my IP. It's all good. Lets continue and realize you are wrong. i'm sorry if someone banned you. i didn't. Tell me what i'm wrong about. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
DiggDugg
User ID: 42528979 United States 08/28/2022 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Zovalex We're all here searching for the truth because we haven't taken society's brainwashing. Quoting: Ex-Atheist 83338824 You do not seek Truth. The vast majority seek only confirmation bias that supports their existing religious beliefs. . Cant debate? DiggDugg The first known use of misanthrope was in 1683. |
DiggDugg
User ID: 42528979 United States 08/28/2022 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, someone banned my IP. It's all good. Lets continue and realize you are wrong. i'm sorry if someone banned you. i didn't. Tell me what i'm wrong about. someone did. its all good. DiggDugg The first known use of misanthrope was in 1683. |
ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces
(OP) User ID: 71212848 United States 08/28/2022 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That reminds me of Saul being knocked from his horse and blinded. i do believe that angels are not little fat babies, but are rather tall, and possibly fierce looking. That is possibly why when they were seen by various people in the Bible they told the people 'do not fear'. Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces i haven't actually "seen" angels, but i have seen them with my spiritual eyes, so to speak. They were tall, illuminated, and stood "guard" so to speak, over me when i was in dire straits. That's amazing. It sounds similar. I'll need to read more on Paul. This is all still pretty new to me, this all happened in early December of 2019. So I have a lot of learning I am still doing. From what i understand, this is how God got Saul's attention before he re-named him Paul. lol "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
DiggDugg
User ID: 42528979 United States 08/28/2022 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, someone banned my IP. It's all good. Lets continue and realize you are wrong. i'm sorry if someone banned you. i didn't. Tell me what i'm wrong about. someone did. its all good. DiggDugg The first known use of misanthrope was in 1683. |
Mother Maggie
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ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces
(OP) User ID: 71212848 United States 08/28/2022 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, someone banned my IP. It's all good. Lets continue and realize you are wrong. i'm sorry if someone banned you. i didn't. Tell me what i'm wrong about. someone did. its all good. i'm sorry. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
Mother Maggie
User ID: 84007494 United States 08/28/2022 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That reminds me of Saul being knocked from his horse and blinded. i do believe that angels are not little fat babies, but are rather tall, and possibly fierce looking. That is possibly why when they were seen by various people in the Bible they told the people 'do not fear'. Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces i haven't actually "seen" angels, but i have seen them with my spiritual eyes, so to speak. They were tall, illuminated, and stood "guard" so to speak, over me when i was in dire straits. That's amazing. It sounds similar. I'll need to read more on Paul. This is all still pretty new to me, this all happened in early December of 2019. So I have a lot of learning I am still doing. From what i understand, this is how God got Saul's attention before he re-named him Paul. lol It was Jesus that did that to Saul.. not any one named God. Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
Ex-Atheist User ID: 83338824 United States 08/28/2022 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That reminds me of Saul being knocked from his horse and blinded. i do believe that angels are not little fat babies, but are rather tall, and possibly fierce looking. That is possibly why when they were seen by various people in the Bible they told the people 'do not fear'. Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces i haven't actually "seen" angels, but i have seen them with my spiritual eyes, so to speak. They were tall, illuminated, and stood "guard" so to speak, over me when i was in dire straits. That's amazing. It sounds similar. I'll need to read more on Paul. This is all still pretty new to me, this all happened in early December of 2019. So I have a lot of learning I am still doing. From what i understand, this is how God got Saul's attention before he re-named him Paul. lol It was Jesus that did that to Saul.. not any one named God. Oh, MM. I disagree with you 99.5% of the time, but I am really glad you came back. No one benefits from an echo chamber, and though I disagree with most things you say, you are willing to support your beliefs in a debate without resorting to insults. I don't have to agree with you to appreciate that you are passionate about what you believe, Also, you're probably wrong LOL. But you are right about the upcoming geomagnetic reversal. |
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ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces
(OP) User ID: 71212848 United States 08/28/2022 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That reminds me of Saul being knocked from his horse and blinded. i do believe that angels are not little fat babies, but are rather tall, and possibly fierce looking. That is possibly why when they were seen by various people in the Bible they told the people 'do not fear'. Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces i haven't actually "seen" angels, but i have seen them with my spiritual eyes, so to speak. They were tall, illuminated, and stood "guard" so to speak, over me when i was in dire straits. That's amazing. It sounds similar. I'll need to read more on Paul. This is all still pretty new to me, this all happened in early December of 2019. So I have a lot of learning I am still doing. From what i understand, this is how God got Saul's attention before he re-named him Paul. lol It was Jesus that did that to Saul.. not any one named God. interesting conversation, as there are some who believe that Jesus IS God. And that is why He is worshipped. In Isaiah when His coming birth was prophesied, He was called Mighty God, and Everlasting Father, amongst other things. And yes, it was Jesus Who spoke to and confronted Saul, and knocked him off his horse and blinded him. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
DiggDugg
User ID: 42528979 United States 08/28/2022 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That reminds me of Saul being knocked from his horse and blinded. i do believe that angels are not little fat babies, but are rather tall, and possibly fierce looking. That is possibly why when they were seen by various people in the Bible they told the people 'do not fear'. Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces i haven't actually "seen" angels, but i have seen them with my spiritual eyes, so to speak. They were tall, illuminated, and stood "guard" so to speak, over me when i was in dire straits. That's amazing. It sounds similar. I'll need to read more on Paul. This is all still pretty new to me, this all happened in early December of 2019. So I have a lot of learning I am still doing. From what i understand, this is how God got Saul's attention before he re-named him Paul. lol It was Jesus that did that to Saul.. not any one named God. Can't, won't and don't. Unless you have proof and something to claim, ....nope! DiggDugg The first known use of misanthrope was in 1683. |
DiggDugg
User ID: 42528979 United States 08/28/2022 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Ex-Atheist 83338824 That's amazing. It sounds similar. I'll need to read more on Paul. This is all still pretty new to me, this all happened in early December of 2019. So I have a lot of learning I am still doing. From what i understand, this is how God got Saul's attention before he re-named him Paul. lol It was Jesus that did that to Saul.. not any one named God. Can't, won't and don't. Unless you have proof and something to claim, ....nope! Wait til I write my book. DiggDugg The first known use of misanthrope was in 1683. |
Ex-Atheist User ID: 83338824 United States 08/28/2022 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | interesting conversation, as there are some who believe that Jesus IS God. And that is why He is worshipped. In Isaiah when His coming birth was prophesied, He was called Mighty God, and Everlasting Father, amongst other things. And yes, it was Jesus Who spoke to and confronted Saul, and knocked him off his horse and blinded him. Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces Maybe it's because I'm a total noob in many ways, but this argument about the nature of the trinity always struck me as missing the point. We can't grasp the nature of God with these minds. To us, it appears that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are completely separate entities - because on our level of understanding, they are. But on a higher level of consciousness and symmetry, they are actually the same entity. We just aren't able to grasp it, by design. But again, I am hardly a theologian. I'm a strictly logical engineer type who never expected to be a believer to begin with! So I don't expect anyone to agree with them. |
ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces
(OP) User ID: 71212848 United States 08/28/2022 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces From what i understand, this is how God got Saul's attention before he re-named him Paul. lol It was Jesus that did that to Saul.. not any one named God. Can't, won't and don't. Unless you have proof and something to claim, ....nope! Wait til I write my book. i want to read it. :O) "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
FixThisShit
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DiggDugg
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ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces
(OP) User ID: 71212848 United States 08/28/2022 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | interesting conversation, as there are some who believe that Jesus IS God. And that is why He is worshipped. In Isaiah when His coming birth was prophesied, He was called Mighty God, and Everlasting Father, amongst other things. And yes, it was Jesus Who spoke to and confronted Saul, and knocked him off his horse and blinded him. Quoting: ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces Maybe it's because I'm a total noob in many ways, but this argument about the nature of the trinity always struck me as missing the point. We can't grasp the nature of God with these minds. To us, it appears that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are completely separate entities - because on our level of understanding, they are. But on a higher level of consciousness and symmetry, they are actually the same entity. We just aren't able to grasp it, by design. But again, I am hardly a theologian. I'm a strictly logical engineer type who never expected to be a believer to begin with! So I don't expect anyone to agree with them. Yes, it's difficult to grasp. What you describe above for me is the "spiritual" realm, where human logic and reasoning falls short. It's interesting to study and discuss it, though. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |