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You are not your inner monologue and your thoughts are not you

 
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We are assigned a demon at birth? So demon is actually a job title? My demon can beat up your demon...
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I might have used the wrong word "assign". But demons indeed try to attach themselves to us by convincing us they are us as soon as we're able to perceive and cognate.

The greatest trick the devil ever performed is not convincing us that he didn't exist, but convincing us we are him.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


Ok I gotcha, I appreciate you answering. I have no doubt and I actually believe demons exist without any doubt, I strongly suspect that they are somehow associated with the narcissists and other types that exist and that there are many times more the narcissists and psychopaths than estimated or believed to be
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You are 100% correct on this. Jesus said "many will be offended (at nothing), and the love of many will run cold". We're there now.

Notably, God popped this bible verse (Matthew 24) into my head one day when I was near atheist, believing science and intellect. It turned me back to God.

Now, I read the news like a livestream of prophecy. Crazy! I never thought I would see this in my lifetime, yet here it is.

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I have often explained, especially to Christians here, that the Bible is precisely about the "transformation" from the false identification with an unreal entity in the mind, the flesh, to the true identity in the spirit. However, most of them are not interested in this obvious key message of the Bible, because they want to be the "I" in thinking and thus - in the religious sense - Satanist at any price.
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Luke 17:20-21
Some of the Pharisees asked Jesus, “When will the kingdom of God come?”

Jesus answered, “God’s kingdom is coming, but not in a way that you will be able to see with your eyes. 21 People will not say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ because God’s kingdom is within you.”



David R. Hawkins speaks about this aswell in this 6-part series but I couldn't find the right part.
Here is part 1:
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It is the message of all great religions and the truth has been handed down in writing for thousands of years and has certainly been known since time immemorial.

However, as you have surely noticed, the pull and gravitation into the "I" is enormous, so organized religion has succeeded in deceiving the great masses and reinforcing them in the belief that the gray, lump of fat in their cranial bone that invents the "I" will go to heaven.

Both the entire Western culture and the distorted presentation of the message of the Bible lead to a massive reinforcement of the "I" and, in believers, to a kind of humble super-ego that purposefully prevents what happens when you follow Jesus and leave the material world and thus the "I" behind.

'Be in the world but not of this world'.
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Most people have lost minds. Here's why.

Demonic entities are assigned to us at birth...
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


OP is mixing reality with insanity here.

In fact, it is true that the "I" person in thought that most think they are is not their true identity.

This can be easily verified by observing that one is a witness to the thoughts whose contents convey one's personal story.

This witness and this "eye", what knows and sees, the real self, most people do not know.

However, this has nothing to do with demons, but with the fact that the body needs a user interface of the operating system with which it communicates with the outside world. This is the "I". The "I" that invents duality in order to be able to exist at all as a separate individual. This is a body function that has nothing to do with the actual identity and the so-called soul.

I have often explained, especially to Christians here, that the Bible is precisely about the "transformation" from the false identification with an unreal entity in the mind, the flesh, to the true identity in the spirit. However, most of them are not interested in this obvious key message of the Bible, because they want to be the "I" in thinking and thus - in the religious sense - Satanist at any price.


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You get exactly what I'm saying. Perhaps how I described it isn't perfect, but what you're saying is exactly what I mean.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


What is happening to you right now is the real awakening, the spiritual awakening. The moment you become aware of your true identity, there is a crack in the eggshell and the process called rebirth, self-realization or enlightenment begins.

I am very happy for you.

However, there is still a lot to learn. Especially in terms of understanding that the world that is experienced is purely a product of the mind.

The reality behind the illusion is very, very simple because the 'space' in which the thoughts appear that invent a dual world is already absolute, meaning you are now already "tethered to Source" and the substance from which everything is made. This, by the way, is also the reason why the "I" person is religious or spiritual in many variations, because it is unspoken and subtly aware that it is itself inventing the separation, which it then wants to overcome in order to be whole and one again.

All of man's activities are directed toward becoming healed and whole again. Also the quite mundane, worldly ones.

So it is important for you to understand that you yourself are the source. You are not the person, but DO the person. So the 'demon' is yourself. :-)

You create forms in consciousness that are known by consciousness itself (not by the "I"). These temporary forms, of course, are not real. Only you yourself, as substance, are real.

Welcome to reality!


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This reminds me of the Vedic Upanishads. I can't disagree, because when I read that, I couldn't help but recognize that the "Self" that book referred to reminded me of God, and Jesus himself has said "The Kingdom of God is within you".

Western belief seems to think God is external, whereas eastern belief seems to think that God is internal. God is both, as He is omnipresent.

Seeking God requires introspection as well as perceiving outward reality as it it is.
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What?! Your inner voice is you, you fucking nut. This is like the ranting of a fucking schizophrenic. Jesus Christ. And the morons here agreeing with this regard. God help us.
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Thank you! Finally the voice of reason!

clappa

I've noticed: no matter what some moran types here, without any proof, the usual tards show up to agree, never demanding sources, origin nor proof.

They simply agree.
Like paid bots!
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The amount of fuckery in this thread is insane. A lot of blowing off and pulling shit out of their ass to validate some of the stupidest shit I’ve read. Inner monologue only exists in a small subset of the population. It’s narrative. Not fucking demons. Your mind is narrating as it’s processing information. It’s a running conversation. It’s a great tool to explore the world and yourself a bit more deeply. It helps me to think before I fucking do something. It’s a mental check on what I’m doing. And if I don’t listen to it, it’s there to fucking tell me about it.

These idiots pull from various practices and teachings from cultures they don’t even understand to validate this fuckery. OP is literally saying that anytime you talk to yourself, it’s a fucking demon. OP is a nutcase and so is anyone entertaining this shit. 90% of the dweebs on this thread larp being some special fucking know-it-all about shit that flies straight over their fucking heads.

This site is nothing but tards, flat earth dipshits, new age cunts, and bots. Oh, and schizophrenics looking for validation
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The op seems to be suggesting some sort of demon spirit guide is delivering him biblical scripture.

You need to calm down bro. God loves your dumb ass and so do I.
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What a load of bullshit. OP please seek help.
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What a load of bullshit. OP please seek help.
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Trust in your ego and suffer.
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What?! Your inner voice is you, you fucking nut. This is like the ranting of a fucking schizophrenic. Jesus Christ. And the morons here agreeing with this regard. God help us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84102314
Thank you! Finally the voice of reason!

clappa

I've noticed: no matter what some moran types here, without any proof, the usual tards show up to agree, never demanding sources, origin nor proof.

They simply agree.
Like paid bots!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81815126


The amount of fuckery in this thread is insane. A lot of blowing off and pulling shit out of their ass to validate some of the stupidest shit I’ve read. Inner monologue only exists in a small subset of the population. It’s narrative. Not fucking demons. Your mind is narrating as it’s processing information. It’s a running conversation. It’s a great tool to explore the world and yourself a bit more deeply. It helps me to think before I fucking do something. It’s a mental check on what I’m doing. And if I don’t listen to it, it’s there to fucking tell me about it.

These idiots pull from various practices and teachings from cultures they don’t even understand to validate this fuckery. OP is literally saying that anytime you talk to yourself, it’s a fucking demon. OP is a nutcase and so is anyone entertaining this shit. 90% of the dweebs on this thread larp being some special fucking know-it-all about shit that flies straight over their fucking heads.

This site is nothing but tards, flat earth dipshits, new age cunts, and bots. Oh, and schizophrenics looking for validation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84102314


The op seems to be suggesting some sort of demon spirit guide is delivering him biblical scripture.

You need to calm down bro. God loves your dumb ass and so do I.
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oops sorry wrong thread, acrry o being a fuctard
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OP is mixing reality with insanity here.

In fact, it is true that the "I" person in thought that most think they are is not their true identity.

This can be easily verified by observing that one is a witness to the thoughts whose contents convey one's personal story.

This witness and this "eye", what knows and sees, the real self, most people do not know.

However, this has nothing to do with demons, but with the fact that the body needs a user interface of the operating system with which it communicates with the outside world. This is the "I". The "I" that invents duality in order to be able to exist at all as a separate individual. This is a body function that has nothing to do with the actual identity and the so-called soul.

I have often explained, especially to Christians here, that the Bible is precisely about the "transformation" from the false identification with an unreal entity in the mind, the flesh, to the true identity in the spirit. However, most of them are not interested in this obvious key message of the Bible, because they want to be the "I" in thinking and thus - in the religious sense - Satanist at any price.


 Quoting: Reborn Like A Pro 77106686


You get exactly what I'm saying. Perhaps how I described it isn't perfect, but what you're saying is exactly what I mean.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


What is happening to you right now is the real awakening, the spiritual awakening. The moment you become aware of your true identity, there is a crack in the eggshell and the process called rebirth, self-realization or enlightenment begins.

I am very happy for you.

However, there is still a lot to learn. Especially in terms of understanding that the world that is experienced is purely a product of the mind.

The reality behind the illusion is very, very simple because the 'space' in which the thoughts appear that invent a dual world is already absolute, meaning you are now already "tethered to Source" and the substance from which everything is made. This, by the way, is also the reason why the "I" person is religious or spiritual in many variations, because it is unspoken and subtly aware that it is itself inventing the separation, which it then wants to overcome in order to be whole and one again.

All of man's activities are directed toward becoming healed and whole again. Also the quite mundane, worldly ones.

So it is important for you to understand that you yourself are the source. You are not the person, but DO the person. So the 'demon' is yourself. :-)

You create forms in consciousness that are known by consciousness itself (not by the "I"). These temporary forms, of course, are not real. Only you yourself, as substance, are real.

Welcome to reality!


 Quoting: Reborn Like A Pro 77106686


This reminds me of the Vedic Upanishads. I can't disagree, because when I read that, I couldn't help but recognize that the "Self" that book referred to reminded me of God, and Jesus himself has said "The Kingdom of God is within you".

Western belief seems to think God is external, whereas eastern belief seems to think that God is internal. God is both, as He is omnipresent.

Seeking God requires introspection as well as perceiving outward reality as it it is.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


You will realize later that what is called soul is the 'pointless point' between absolute, boundless, unlimited, unborn and immortal being, without beginning and end and the material, dual world created by you or through you. There is no more distinction on this level of being.

Jesus spoke regularly about how He is in you and you are in Him and all are together in God. "My Father and I are one."

If you look inside, you are everything, if you look into the world, you are something. And you are right that looking into the world is the mirror to be able to recognize yourself.

What is important to understand is that when these things are recognized, there can be no argument about theology, exegesis, false prophets or the like. It is a universal truth. The dual world of names and forms created by the mind and the words we both use to point to reality are never the actual reality. Not in any religion and not in science.

Seeing and knowing what appears as the world within you (including the "I") is the only reality. Only that which sees and knows is real. You are PURE KNOWING.

You have now recognized that there is this seer and witness and that this must be your true identity.

Now the journey really starts for you!

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I agree with you, in part. If your heart is aligned with God, your spirit (the spirit of God), will guide you, as it did me, to know Truth (reality). But, if your heart is aligned with the lies of your ego, thoughts, imagination, you will suffer the same outcome you describe.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


As Jesus said, "God's Kingdom is within".

Meaning, your central core or "real you" is your spirit, which is of God.

The stuff layered around your central core (like your thoughts, ego, imagination, etc) is of the world. It arises from the physical world.

To have "your heart aligned with God" is to stay centered in your core. It is to identify with your spirit, and be in full control over your mind/brain/body, which in effect makes you God's tool on Earth, since your spirit naturally serves God's will. And God's will is to the benefit of both you and everyone around you. Win-win.

The problem most people have, is that they instead identify with the ego, thinking their thoughts and imagination is them. Just as you observed. And when you identify as your ego you become a slave to the material world. You lack direction, and you are in effect acting in opposition to God, to the detriment of both yourself and everyone around you. Lose-lose.

This far I think we are both in perfect agreement.

Where we differ, is in our view of "demons". You seem to have accepted Christian dogma on the matter, which basically says that there is an evil entity (Satan) served by other evil entities (demons), and that these entities seek to take control over you, so they can hurt you.

This is actually not entirely wrong, but it is still lacking in proper understanding of what we are actually dealing with here.

As you may recall, Christianity struggles with explaining just why these "demons" exist. If God is good, why is there evil? Christianity has failed to give a satisfactory answer, simply because it hasn't understood exactly what a "demon" is.

I'll try to explain this.

As I said in my last post, we are spirits who interact with the world indirectly through the physical body.

That's a simplification. Spirit is actually so far removed from the physical world it cannot interface directly with it, so your spirit cannot interface with your physical brain. Instead it interacts with a replica of the physical brain that exists in an intermediate layer of creation I'll call the etherical world.

The etherical world is an unseen "dimension" that exists as a buffer layer between the world of spirit which is our true home, and the physical world.

And the etherical (or "astral") world is home to a form of energy called ether. What we call "a thought" is actually a tangible object made out of ether.

The etheric (or astral) realm is therefore crammed full of "thought forms". These thought forms aren't contained, they flow around freely all over the place.

And thought forms are not just the substance of thought, they are also the action of thought. That is to say, thought forms are not just the stuff of intelligence, they are actually intelligent in their own right. The "ether" is a substance that is thought, and capable of thought.

It is basically a substrate of reality that has "artificial intelligence", since it is not spirit. It has no self awareness, it simple processes thought/data.

An intelligent thoughtform with a complex structure can think complicated thoughts. It is in other words highly intelligent, and it is capable of independent action (restricted to the etheric world where it exists).

But it has no spirit, and receives no guidance from God.

Such a highly intelligent independently acting thought form is what you know as "a demon".

Just as Christianity teaches, such a thought form can "attach" itself to the etheric replica of your brain. It can then seep ideas into your mind, and by doign so it can also feed itself to prolong its existence.

You see, thought forms naturally dissipate. They're like a whirlpool in water, their existence is temporary and ephemereal, only fed by the continued movement of ether. They have no spirit and are not alive. But they are intelligent and "know" that their existence can be upheld by seeking out a proper source of movement of ether.

You, a spirit, is such a source of movement in the ether.

So the thought form is drawn to you. It seeks to attach itself to your etheric mind, and to interact with it as much as possible, so it can "feed" itself and not dissipate. It has the intelligence to know that it needs to do this to continue existing.

All I've said so far actually agrees 100 % with what Christianity teaches about "demons". They try to "possess" you, and they have no connection to spirit or God, so they can only lead you astray.

The difference with the perspective I'm giving you here, is that the "demon" isn't a "fallen angel" as Christianity teaches. It wasn't created by God!

Thought forms are created by us humans.

WE have created every "demon" that plagues us. Every stray thought that stirs the ether creates whirlpools in the ether. Strong negative emotions create strong negative thought forms.

The violent history of humans has created a real mess in the ether surrounding this planet. There are zones in the "astral" that are quite "hellish", filled with powerful negative thought forms that we really don't want to feed any further.

We must starve our malcreations of our attention and energy, and take control over our minds! We must get aligned with our spirit selves so we can become God's tools, so that the highest will can clean up this place. First in the ether, then physically, because that is the way things progress. As above, so below.

What I'm warning against here, is that Christianity often teaches fear. To fear demons is a grave mistake! They are a nuisance, yes, but they are not real. They are just thought forms after all. They do not have spirit. They dissipate and disappear if we just stop feeding them with attention.

To fear them, is to give them more attention, which is to feed them.

You don't get rid of the attachments that are disturbing your mind by wrestling with them, you get rid of them by drawing closer to God.
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Most people have lost minds. Here's why.

Demonic entities are assigned to us at birth. Their job is to convince us the voice in our head is us. When in reality, it is a demonic entity (or entities) pretending to be us in order to take over our minds.

It starts by whispering pedantic and obvious things about our real time experiences, things we would normally understand as reality right in front of our eyes without any need to process it with thoughts. And over time it earns our trust that it is our "inner monologue", a conversation we have with ourselves about our "thoughts".

Then, it starts to convey "thoughts" to us. Those "thoughts" can be anything from neutral ones, to good ones, to bad ones. Since we believe those thoughts are our own self having a dialog with our own self, we believe those thoughts.

Once we believe thoughts, we are then prime for the picking to have our minds taken over by those demonic entities.

The outcome of thinking is not thoughts. The outcome of thinking is revelation, realization and conclusions.

If a thought enters your mind and it has words attached, it is demonic. Even the neutral ones are part of a general programming system you have been part of since you were young.

"Good" thoughts are designed to build up your ego and pride. "Bad" thoughts are designed to cut you down from that. Ego and pride is the home for Satan who wants to control your mind and take your soul away from reality, which is right now. It's a grift, a bait and switch, a slight of hand, designed to take over your mind so you focus on anything but the present -- the presence of God, your creator.

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lololololololol gtfoh!
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What?! Your inner voice is you, you fucking nut. This is like the ranting of a fucking schizophrenic. Jesus Christ. And the morons here agreeing with this regard. God help us.
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Absolutely. The times I was most aghast at possibilties I was contmplating was when they only came with imagery. I can reason with words.
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Re: You are not your inner monologue and your thoughts are not you
I agree with you, in part. If your heart is aligned with God, your spirit (the spirit of God), will guide you, as it did me, to know Truth (reality). But, if your heart is aligned with the lies of your ego, thoughts, imagination, you will suffer the same outcome you describe.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


As Jesus said, "God's Kingdom is within".

Meaning, your central core or "real you" is your spirit, which is of God.

The stuff layered around your central core (like your thoughts, ego, imagination, etc) is of the world. It arises from the physical world.

To have "your heart aligned with God" is to stay centered in your core. It is to identify with your spirit, and be in full control over your mind/brain/body, which in effect makes you God's tool on Earth, since your spirit naturally serves God's will. And God's will is to the benefit of both you and everyone around you. Win-win.

The problem most people have, is that they instead identify with the ego, thinking their thoughts and imagination is them. Just as you observed. And when you identify as your ego you become a slave to the material world. You lack direction, and you are in effect acting in opposition to God, to the detriment of both yourself and everyone around you. Lose-lose.

This far I think we are both in perfect agreement.

Where we differ, is in our view of "demons". You seem to have accepted Christian dogma on the matter, which basically says that there is an evil entity (Satan) served by other evil entities (demons), and that these entities seek to take control over you, so they can hurt you.

This is actually not entirely wrong, but it is still lacking in proper understanding of what we are actually dealing with here.

As you may recall, Christianity struggles with explaining just why these "demons" exist. If God is good, why is there evil? Christianity has failed to give a satisfactory answer, simply because it hasn't understood exactly what a "demon" is.

I'll try to explain this.

As I said in my last post, we are spirits who interact with the world indirectly through the physical body.

That's a simplification. Spirit is actually so far removed from the physical world it cannot interface directly with it, so your spirit cannot interface with your physical brain. Instead it interacts with a replica of the physical brain that exists in an intermediate layer of creation I'll call the etherical world.

The etherical world is an unseen "dimension" that exists as a buffer layer between the world of spirit which is our true home, and the physical world.

And the etherical (or "astral") world is home to a form of energy called ether. What we call "a thought" is actually a tangible object made out of ether.

The etheric (or astral) realm is therefore crammed full of "thought forms". These thought forms aren't contained, they flow around freely all over the place.

And thought forms are not just the substance of thought, they are also the action of thought. That is to say, thought forms are not just the stuff of intelligence, they are actually intelligent in their own right. The "ether" is a substance that is thought, and capable of thought.

It is basically a substrate of reality that has "artificial intelligence", since it is not spirit. It has no self awareness, it simple processes thought/data.

An intelligent thoughtform with a complex structure can think complicated thoughts. It is in other words highly intelligent, and it is capable of independent action (restricted to the etheric world where it exists).

But it has no spirit, and receives no guidance from God.

Such a highly intelligent independently acting thought form is what you know as "a demon".

Just as Christianity teaches, such a thought form can "attach" itself to the etheric replica of your brain. It can then seep ideas into your mind, and by doign so it can also feed itself to prolong its existence.

You see, thought forms naturally dissipate. They're like a whirlpool in water, their existence is temporary and ephemereal, only fed by the continued movement of ether. They have no spirit and are not alive. But they are intelligent and "know" that their existence can be upheld by seeking out a proper source of movement of ether.

You, a spirit, is such a source of movement in the ether.

So the thought form is drawn to you. It seeks to attach itself to your etheric mind, and to interact with it as much as possible, so it can "feed" itself and not dissipate. It has the intelligence to know that it needs to do this to continue existing.

All I've said so far actually agrees 100 % with what Christianity teaches about "demons". They try to "possess" you, and they have no connection to spirit or God, so they can only lead you astray.

The difference with the perspective I'm giving you here, is that the "demon" isn't a "fallen angel" as Christianity teaches. It wasn't created by God!

Thought forms are created by us humans.

WE have created every "demon" that plagues us. Every stray thought that stirs the ether creates whirlpools in the ether. Strong negative emotions create strong negative thought forms.

The violent history of humans has created a real mess in the ether surrounding this planet. There are zones in the "astral" that are quite "hellish", filled with powerful negative thought forms that we really don't want to feed any further.

We must starve our malcreations of our attention and energy, and take control over our minds! We must get aligned with our spirit selves so we can become God's tools, so that the highest will can clean up this place. First in the ether, then physically, because that is the way things progress. As above, so below.

What I'm warning against here, is that Christianity often teaches fear. To fear demons is a grave mistake! They are a nuisance, yes, but they are not real. They are just thought forms after all. They do not have spirit. They dissipate and disappear if we just stop feeding them with attention.

To fear them, is to give them more attention, which is to feed them.

You don't get rid of the attachments that are disturbing your mind by wrestling with them, you get rid of them by drawing closer to God.
 Quoting: Lazy Monk


So much of what you say here resonates as truth, and doesn't disagree with my OP, beyond some labels. Without labels, we wouldn't be able to communicate.

Turing toward God is the answer, 100%. But for many it must start by doubting and rejecting the lies brought about by -- thoughts, memories [which only exist in one's imagination every time they are revisited and can be altered by new thoughts], imagination, ego -- that one identifies with and believes in. Now is the only thing that exists, and what's right before you is the truth. It's that simple.

Your post helps elaborate upon that reality. Thank you.
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Re: You are not your inner monologue and your thoughts are not you
They say 10 to 20 percent of the population lacks the ability to have an internal mortgage in their head..

Academia would say that those people lacking the inner voice have the disorder.

Your theory, Op, would imply the opposite and the people without an inner monolog are free from demons.. or at least resist them.

Thoughts?...
 Quoting: Buggs


Academia and intellect are a cheap imposter of truth.
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When you start doubting your own cognition, where's there left to go?

A bit surprised to hear this from OP.
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It's about trusting reality, not trusting your thoughts.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


How do you trust reality without thinking about it?

Thoughts are not words, dude. You have a perception problem, I think.
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When you step outside and it is warm and sunny, do you have to think about that to know that it is warm and sunny?
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Most people have lost minds. Here's why.

Demonic entities are assigned to us at birth. Their job is to convince us the voice in our head is us. When in reality, it is a demonic entity (or entities) pretending to be us in order to take over our minds.

It starts by whispering pedantic and obvious things about our real time experiences, things we would normally understand as reality right in front of our eyes without any need to process it with thoughts. And over time it earns our trust that it is our "inner monologue", a conversation we have with ourselves about our "thoughts".

Then, it starts to convey "thoughts" to us. Those "thoughts" can be anything from neutral ones, to good ones, to bad ones. Since we believe those thoughts are our own self having a dialog with our own self, we believe those thoughts.

Once we believe thoughts, we are then prime for the picking to have our minds taken over by those demonic entities.

The outcome of thinking is not thoughts. The outcome of thinking is revelation, realization and conclusions.

If a thought enters your mind and it has words attached, it is demonic. Even the neutral ones are part of a general programming system you have been part of since you were young.

"Good" thoughts are designed to build up your ego and pride. "Bad" thoughts are designed to cut you down from that. Ego and pride is the home for Satan who wants to control your mind and take your soul away from reality, which is right now. It's a grift, a bait and switch, a slight of hand, designed to take over your mind so you focus on anything but the present -- the presence of God, your creator.

:imrightyouknow:
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


So really, you were born because demons mindfucked your parents.

You were planted as an idea by demons, even the decision to keep you if you were a mistake!

That means, that you are a product of Satan and his demons, and the belief (if you have one) in God, is also planted by demons.

You are literally an agent for evil. You were planned by demons.

If you truly believe your shit, you need to be the bigger person here, and end it all, before their plan come to fruition.
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Well, yeah, but, what you are misssing are the multitudes of 'dead' people, who are asleep and find no rest--they're all around us, all the time. Those, who got killed by no fault of their own and who are trying to help, and those who killed and who are trying to make amends.
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What?! Your inner voice is you, you fucking nut. This is like the ranting of a fucking schizophrenic. Jesus Christ. And the morons here agreeing with this regard. God help us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84102314


I can spot a liar from a mile away.

You are a liar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84100619


What lie, you stupid fuck? Brain dead fucking idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84102314


a great king once asked a great monk what an ego was...

the great monk hummed and hawwed... then told the great king that only a "Stupid Brain Dead idiot would ask such a question"..

stunned and ready to lashout the great king was, but before he could say anything, the great monk said...

"Your majesty, that is the ego"
 Quoting: panthers



the great king then asked the great monk, what a comedian was.
the great monk hummed and hawwed...
and then asked the great king if he wanted to play "Gestapo"...
the great king said sure..
the monk asked the king...
"what comes after 8...."

later that day, the monk was executed.
...1 0 1 0 [1 1] 2 3 5 8...
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Re: You are not your inner monologue and your thoughts are not you
Agree with most of that, well said. The Angels and one's own higher self also put thought in one's head. Very important to know thyself and be as detached from beliefs and possessions as possible. Knowing is knowing

Only thing I disagree with is ego. Ego is a central part of one's individual sovereign identity as a human. Just because most humans on earth now have rotten egos doesn't make all egos rotten.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83216994


IF

YOU DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST

IF

YOU EAT THE FLESH OF JESUS CHRIST

THEN YOU HAVE REPLACED YOUR HIGHER SELF WITH JESUS CHRIST

EGO IS A MAN MADE CONSTRUCT

DESIGNED TO REPLACE JESUS CHRIST IN YOU

ACCEPT THE WORD CRAFT OF THE EGO

AND YOU WILL DIE

HOWEVER ACCEPT

THE WORD

OF

JESUS CHRIST

AND LIVE FOREVER
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Well, yeah, but, what you are misssing are the multitudes of 'dead' people, who are asleep and find no rest--they're all around us, all the time. Those, who got killed by no fault of their own and who are trying to help, and those who killed and who are trying to make amends.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84084216


THE DEAD PEOPLE ARE ONLY AROUND US

IF

YOU OPENED THAT DOOR

WHICH YOU JUST DID

HOWEVER

IF

JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOU

THAT DOOR IS CLOSED

IN THE KINGDOM OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN

NO ONE HAS EVER DIED

THAT IS A CONSTRUCT OF SATAN

SO HE CAN TAKE OUR INHERITANCE

THE EARTH
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I don't mean that demons possess you at birth, but that they whisper to you, pretend to sound like you, and try to convince you that you are them. When you believe them, they are able to take over your mind.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


That's right, this is how they help us to survive.


The reason for this, is by believing them, they engage your God-given thinking abilities which can then occupy your mental faculties. This leads to believing and dwelling on their lies.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


Completely wrong. They are living forces, each with its own goals and methods, all of them can be "good" or "bad", destructive or constructive.

The voice which tells you "flee", can save your life or make you a coward.
The voice which tells you "fight", can make you strong or cruel.
The voice which tells you "cooperate", can make you happy or fanatic.
The voice which tells you "compete", can make you smart or icecold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84104057


I remember cartoons showing people with a "good" angel on one shoulder and a "bad" demon on the other, both whispering into an ear.
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They say 10 to 20 percent of the population lacks the ability to have an internal mortgage in their head..

Academia would say that those people lacking the inner voice have the disorder.

Your theory, Op, would imply the opposite and the people without an inner monolog are free from demons.. or at least resist them.

Thoughts?...
 Quoting: Buggs


Academia and intellect are a cheap imposter of truth.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


THERE ARE A INFINITE NUMBER OF TRUTHS

ALL IMPERFECT INACCURATE AND INCONSISTENT

BUT

ONLY ONE

THE TRUTH

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING

JESUS CHRIST


A INNER MONOLOG IS NOT FREE FROM DEMONS

THE INNER MONOLOG IS A TRICK OF SATAN

DESIGNED TO REPLACE

THE WORD

WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST

WE ARE APPOINT ONCE TO DIE

SO

DIE TO THE INNER MONOLOG OF SELF

REPLACING THAT DEAD SELF WITH

THE WORD

THAT IS

JESUS CHRIST

AND LIVE FOREVER
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Well, yeah, but, what you are misssing are the multitudes of 'dead' people, who are asleep and find no rest--they're all around us, all the time. Those, who got killed by no fault of their own and who are trying to help, and those who killed and who are trying to make amends.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84084216


THE DEAD PEOPLE ARE ONLY AROUND US

IF

YOU OPENED THAT DOOR

WHICH YOU JUST DID

HOWEVER

IF

JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOU

THAT DOOR IS CLOSED

IN THE KINGDOM OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN

NO ONE HAS EVER DIED

THAT IS A CONSTRUCT OF SATAN

SO HE CAN TAKE OUR INHERITANCE

THE EARTH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56587788


1. Stop screaming

2. Just because you are unable to perceive them, doesn't mean they're not there.

3. No one ever really dies.
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I don't mean that demons possess you at birth, but that they whisper to you, pretend to sound like you, and try to convince you that you are them. When you believe them, they are able to take over your mind.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


That's right, this is how they help us to survive.


The reason for this, is by believing them, they engage your God-given thinking abilities which can then occupy your mental faculties. This leads to believing and dwelling on their lies.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


Completely wrong. They are living forces, each with its own goals and methods, all of them can be "good" or "bad", destructive or constructive.

The voice which tells you "flee", can save your life or make you a coward.
The voice which tells you "fight", can make you strong or cruel.
The voice which tells you "cooperate", can make you happy or fanatic.
The voice which tells you "compete", can make you smart or icecold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84104057


I remember cartoons showing people with a "good" angel on one shoulder and a "bad" demon on the other, both whispering into an ear.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


IF

JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOUR

THE BAD DEMON WILL FLEE FROM YOU



IN FACT THAT CONCEPT WAS CONCEIVED BY WALT DISNEY

A KNOWN COMMIE

AND ALL COMMIES ARE ANTI GOD

THEREFORE GOOD ANGEL BAD DEMON IS A TRICK OF SATAN

TO GET YOU TO ACCEPT DEATH
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I don't mean that demons possess you at birth, but that they whisper to you, pretend to sound like you, and try to convince you that you are them. When you believe them, they are able to take over your mind.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


That's right, this is how they help us to survive.


The reason for this, is by believing them, they engage your God-given thinking abilities which can then occupy your mental faculties. This leads to believing and dwelling on their lies.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface


Completely wrong. They are living forces, each with its own goals and methods, all of them can be "good" or "bad", destructive or constructive.

The voice which tells you "flee", can save your life or make you a coward.
The voice which tells you "fight", can make you strong or cruel.
The voice which tells you "cooperate", can make you happy or fanatic.
The voice which tells you "compete", can make you smart or icecold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84104057


I remember cartoons showing people with a "good" angel on one shoulder and a "bad" demon on the other, both whispering into an ear.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


IF

JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOUR

THE BAD DEMON WILL FLEE FROM YOU



IN FACT THAT CONCEPT WAS CONCEIVED BY WALT DISNEY

A KNOWN COMMIE

AND ALL COMMIES ARE ANTI GOD

THEREFORE GOOD ANGEL BAD DEMON IS A TRICK OF SATAN

TO GET YOU TO ACCEPT DEATH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56587788


Disney? Commies? Really?
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Well, yeah, but, what you are misssing are the multitudes of 'dead' people, who are asleep and find no rest--they're all around us, all the time. Those, who got killed by no fault of their own and who are trying to help, and those who killed and who are trying to make amends.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84084216


THE DEAD PEOPLE ARE ONLY AROUND US

IF

YOU OPENED THAT DOOR

WHICH YOU JUST DID

HOWEVER

IF

JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOU

THAT DOOR IS CLOSED

IN THE KINGDOM OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN

NO ONE HAS EVER DIED

THAT IS A CONSTRUCT OF SATAN

SO HE CAN TAKE OUR INHERITANCE

THE EARTH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56587788


1. Stop screaming

2. Just because you are unable to perceive them, doesn't mean they're not there.

3. No one ever really dies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84084216


OH

THEY ARE THERE

FOR YOU

EVIDENCE

YOU HAVE TAKEN OFFENCE TO A SIMPLE LITTLE THING LIKE CAP LOCKS

EVERY LITTLE THING PISSES SATAN OFF

ALL GOVERNMENT DOCS USE CAP LOCKS

I DON'T SEE YOU GETTING PISSED OFF AT THOSE DOCS



NO ONE EVER DIES

SINCE WE ARE SPIRIT

HOWEVER IF YOUR BODY DIES

THEN YOU HAVE SURRENDERED YOU INHERITANCE TO SATAN

WHICH IS

THE EARTH

NICH GOING
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...


That's right, this is how they help us to survive.


...


Completely wrong. They are living forces, each with its own goals and methods, all of them can be "good" or "bad", destructive or constructive.

The voice which tells you "flee", can save your life or make you a coward.
The voice which tells you "fight", can make you strong or cruel.
The voice which tells you "cooperate", can make you happy or fanatic.
The voice which tells you "compete", can make you smart or icecold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84104057


I remember cartoons showing people with a "good" angel on one shoulder and a "bad" demon on the other, both whispering into an ear.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


IF

JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOUR

THE BAD DEMON WILL FLEE FROM YOU



IN FACT THAT CONCEPT WAS CONCEIVED BY WALT DISNEY

A KNOWN COMMIE

AND ALL COMMIES ARE ANTI GOD

THEREFORE GOOD ANGEL BAD DEMON IS A TRICK OF SATAN

TO GET YOU TO ACCEPT DEATH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56587788


Disney? Commies? Really?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84084216


JUST LOOK AT HIS CARTOONS

ALL VIOLENT

WHO IS THE AUTHOR OF VIOLENCE

SATAN

LET IT SINK IN

MY COMMERICAL ART TEACHER TAUGHT ME THAT IN THE 60'S

I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT

THEN I SAW IT
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That's right, this is how they help us to survive.


...


Completely wrong. They are living forces, each with its own goals and methods, all of them can be "good" or "bad", destructive or constructive.

The voice which tells you "flee", can save your life or make you a coward.
The voice which tells you "fight", can make you strong or cruel.
The voice which tells you "cooperate", can make you happy or fanatic.
The voice which tells you "compete", can make you smart or icecold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84104057


I remember cartoons showing people with a "good" angel on one shoulder and a "bad" demon on the other, both whispering into an ear.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


IF

JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOUR

THE BAD DEMON WILL FLEE FROM YOU



IN FACT THAT CONCEPT WAS CONCEIVED BY WALT DISNEY

A KNOWN COMMIE

AND ALL COMMIES ARE ANTI GOD

THEREFORE GOOD ANGEL BAD DEMON IS A TRICK OF SATAN

TO GET YOU TO ACCEPT DEATH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56587788


Disney? Commies? Really?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84084216


Caps dude is off their rocker.

The concept pre-dates Disney by a long shot. Here is a wikipedia article about "shoulder angels":

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Well, yeah, but, what you are misssing are the multitudes of 'dead' people, who are asleep and find no rest--they're all around us, all the time. Those, who got killed by no fault of their own and who are trying to help, and those who killed and who are trying to make amends.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84084216


THE DEAD PEOPLE ARE ONLY AROUND US

IF

YOU OPENED THAT DOOR

WHICH YOU JUST DID

HOWEVER

IF

JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOU

THAT DOOR IS CLOSED

IN THE KINGDOM OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN

NO ONE HAS EVER DIED

THAT IS A CONSTRUCT OF SATAN

SO HE CAN TAKE OUR INHERITANCE

THE EARTH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56587788


1. Stop screaming

2. Just because you are unable to perceive them, doesn't mean they're not there.

3. No one ever really dies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84084216


OH

THEY ARE THERE

FOR YOU

EVIDENCE

YOU HAVE TAKEN OFFENCE TO A SIMPLE LITTLE THING LIKE CAP LOCKS

EVERY LITTLE THING PISSES SATAN OFF

ALL GOVERNMENT DOCS USE CAP LOCKS

I DON'T SEE YOU GETTING PISSED OFF AT THOSE DOCS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56587788


netiquette and IDGAF about govdocs

NO ONE EVER DIES

SINCE WE ARE SPIRIT

HOWEVER IF YOUR BODY DIES

THEN YOU HAVE SURRENDERED YOU INHERITANCE TO SATAN

WHICH IS

THE EARTH

NICH GOING
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So, no one better dies to this material world, eh?
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I remember cartoons showing people with a "good" angel on one shoulder and a "bad" demon on the other, both whispering into an ear.
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


IF

JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOUR

THE BAD DEMON WILL FLEE FROM YOU



IN FACT THAT CONCEPT WAS CONCEIVED BY WALT DISNEY

A KNOWN COMMIE

AND ALL COMMIES ARE ANTI GOD

THEREFORE GOOD ANGEL BAD DEMON IS A TRICK OF SATAN

TO GET YOU TO ACCEPT DEATH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56587788


Disney? Commies? Really?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84084216


Caps dude is off their rocker.

The concept pre-dates Disney by a long shot. Here is a wikipedia article about "shoulder angels":

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Gemini Rising


WALT BABY

TOOK THE CONCEPT MAIN STREAM





GLP