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and you are a premillennial dispensationalists denier

you actually have added to my suspicion that there will be a rapture

thank you

The Bible describes SADS.

Christians interpret the rapture.

Rapture & second coming


There is a great difference between these two events.

Rapture Second Coming
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Jesus coming FOR His Church. John 14:1-3, 1 Thess 4:14-17
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Jesus coming WITH His Church Col 3:4, Zech 14:5, Jude 14, Rev 19:14
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Caught up with Him in the air1 Thess 4:13-18
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Jesus' feet touch the earthZech 14:4, Rev:19:11-21
3 Christians taken first, unbelievers are left behind. 1 Thess 4:13-18 3
Wicked are taken first, the righteous (Tribulation saints) are left behind.Matt 13:28-30
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Purpose: To present the Church to Himself and to the Father 2 Cor 11:2, Rev. 19:6-9
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Purpose: To execute judgment on earth and set up His Kingdom Jude 14-15,Rev 19:11-21, Zech 14:3-4
5 MARRIAGE: Marriage of Lamb in heaven after the Rapture 5 WAR: Marriage is followed by war on earth at the 2nd coming
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Happens in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye (too fast for eyes to see) 1 Cor 15:52
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Slow coming, people will see Him come back.Zech 12:10 Matt 24:30, Rev 1:7
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Only Christians will see Him 1 John 3:2, 1 Cor 15:52
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Every eye will see Him Rev. 1:7
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Jesus descends with a shout(for resurrection) 1 Thess 4:16
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No shout mentioned Rev. 19:11-21
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A resurrection takes place 1 Thess 4:13-18, 1 Cor 15:51-54
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No resurrection mentioned Rev 1:7, 19:11-21, Zech 12:10, 14:4-5
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Can happen at any time Rev 3:3, 1 Thess 5:4-6
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Occurs at end of 7 years of Tribulation Dan 9:24-27Matt 24:29-30, 2 Thess 2:3-8
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No angels are sent to gather (resurrected people don't need angels to help them)
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Angels sent forth to gather people together for judgment Matt 13:39, 41, 49, 24:31, 25:31, 2 Thess 1:7-10
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Spirits of those dead in Christ return with Jesus to receive their their resurrected bodies 1 Thess 4:14-16
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Christians return with Jesus in already resurrectedbodies riding on white horses. Rev 19:11-21
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Jesus does not return on a white horse
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Jesus returns on a white horse Rev 19:11
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For the Church only (those in Christ) 1 Thess 4:14-17
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For redeemed Israel & Gentiles Rom 11:25-27, Matt 25:31-46
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A message of hope andcomfort 1 Thess 4:18, Titus 2:13, 1 John 3:3
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A message of judgment Joel 3:12-16, Rev 19:11-21, Mal 4:5

You are Decived. And i would suggest afraid to quote His Word.

As said. Please go ahead. Prove your opinionated claims scripturally. Doctrines of me and demons that abuse His word are not difficult to refute. Especially led by His Holy Spirit to do so

Interesting.

OK, I'll bite.

The last 3 lines about the rapture/non rapture? That seems a statement of belief. Your personal belief.

Okay, that's perfectly fine as we as human beings are capable of forming a personal belief. I'm perfectly fine with you believing whatever you wish to believe.

But I think I'd be remiss not to observe that it seems very important to you that other people believe what you believe. For me that's a BIG red flag. (not just you doing it either)

Unless of course your here for philanthropic reasons and it's not about you. You know, not to pstroke your ego, but just because you love and care about people and want to help them.

I don't claim to be a mind reader but how someone speaks is a pretty good indicator of what's going on inside of a person.

What proceeds out of the mouth comes from the heart of a man or woman. (words of Jesus) That's what I believe, personally. It's how I judge the things I see and hear.

You don't have to use that same standard for yourself, of course. Nor, are you required to agree with me or accept any of my opinions.

Bottom line though? Your words don't sound kind to me. I wonder how many people you will reach, or if you're just arguing with yourself here and don't realize it.

The latter seems to make more sense. But I could be wrong. Who knows.

As for my personal belief regarding the rapture? Yes, definitely. And, soon.

But, that personal belief? It's personal. I cannot and have no desire to make that or try to force that to be anyone else's belief.

I figure that's between them and God. Apparently we do not share that opinion.

And, that's okay. Knock yourself out!

You are being disingenuous . And itsounds like you are claiming some scriptures are more Holy than others.

Let me quote Paul.

2 Timothy 4: 1. I charge thee therefore before Elohim, and the Lord YAHshua Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2. Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. - Bible Offline


2 Timothy 3: 15. And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ YAHshua. 16. All scripture is given by inspiration of Elohim, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17. That the man of Elohim may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. - Bible Offline

Yes, the 2nd half of the 7 years

This will be the tribulation as the first half of the 7 years will be the antichrist taking power and deceiving the world with his wonders

Then during the 2nd half the 42 nonths the antichrist will show his true colors


Will require everyone to accept the mark of the beast to show their allegence to him

If you refuse the mark no working, no buying, no selling

Those who refuse will be hunted down and killed

The ones who took the vaxx will not likely be the same who tale the mark

Hence the reason for the mark of the beast trail run, other wise known as the covid vaxx

It was a test to see who would bow down and accept the vaxx when threaten with loss of job, and who would blindly take the vaxx without question


Once the currency goes digital they can control everything from getting paid to spending

This will all happen in the 3nd half of the 7 year period after antichrist takes power

I'm waiting on the Blessed Hope. If for some reason, the pre-Trib preachers are wrong (I don't think they are), then I'm ready for the Tribulation. To endure to the end.

Either way, I'm keeping the oil in my lamp lit at all times and ready for anything.

Are you unable or afraid to read revelation ch 12.

You make unrighteous accusations. Then attempt to distance your conscience from your actions. Be careful. A seared conscience is terrible way to go.
You appear to be afraid of quoting His Word but happily parrot what other people have to say.

Why is that?

If your faith is as strong and stable in Him as you claim then sharing scriptures which disprove me should be easy.

Amen unto enduring to the end

Why are you freaks obsessed with proving the Rapture doesn't exist? So what if I'm wrong?

don't take the mark...

Why are you freaks obsessed with proving that does exist? So what if we’re right?

just because GOD hasn't shown you this truth doesn't mean it's not true, it just means it's not for you...

there is not god or satan, so you are correct it is all lies and deception.

there IS a satan, he has blinded you.

So, you have a lot of fear and self-doubt. That's what you just projected.

And, your self-perception is that you are both brave and original. "Special."

God can speak for Himself and doesn't need any help from me.

This is most interesting:

"If your faith is as strong and stable in Him as you claim then sharing scriptures which disprove me should be easy"

So, in other words if I don't quote scripture and participate in a circular argument with you, then my faith is not strong. So then you become a "Victor" by default if I decline? (btw, when did I ever claim that my faith was strong? If you could quote me that would be great. Thanks.)

Does anybody have a fire extinguisher handy?

Because there is some classic and pathological Gaslighting up in here.

Whoah...... if you want to observe and study narcissism, these threads are great. Like a laboratory. I know somebody out there hears me, lol.

Well, the rapture is kind of important, since its a huge event that will be a message to the world that God is real, it wont be UFO's that took us, but i bet thats what many will convince themselves of.

Thats why teaching the rapture is important, and thats why it meets resistance. And for christians, we dont need to fear whats coming. The more crazy things get, the calmer we should be, because soon we are out of here. In fact, apocalyptic stuff should CALM YOU DOWN and make you HAPPY, instead of stress you up, because it proves the rapture is close.

So that trolls in here lie about the rapture being satanic, is actually quite serious if unsaved people fall for it.

So thats why i posted scripture, showing its real. When you read the bible, SOME are written to the j ish / Israeli people and the gentles (other nations) that are saved in the tribulation, and SOME are written to the church today, and its important to be able to see who the various verses is about.

Lets do it again, this picture is easy to save and post here and there without a 1 hour video lecture of Chuck Missler which has excellent 10/10 teachings, but few non-christians sadly will watch:

https://imgur.com/a/nufm1gt

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Great post. We, that are to be raptured, know who we are, and why it MUST happen. We have much to be joyfull over.

Chuck Missler. Yes, he was brilliant. Blessed with eyes to see outside this current dimension. The real and astonishingly deep layers of Scripture that speak quite clearly to that spiritual plane


I hear you.

I keep it simple: Prepare for hard times and Trib, if the Rapture happens and I'm taken, great - what happens, happens.

NO...

THERE IS NO PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE!!!

Shalom...

Eliyah

Doesn’t that mean the ones in the wilderness are there, in the flesh, at the end of the tribulations with the 144,000? Don’t the 144,000 have to go back?

Edom, Moab, and Ammon are also mentioned in a prophecy from Daniel 11:41. Speaking of the anti-Christ and his end times conquest of the Middle East, Daniel said, “He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand.”

The Beautiful Land is Israel, and the timing of this prophecy is during the Great Tribulation. The fact that Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from the anti-Christ’s hand indicates he will have intended to conquer them but will be unable to do so.

This verse describes the AC being in power at the time of this miracle.

So what happens to the 1/3?

Zechariah 13:9
“And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.”

King James Version (K

They will have to be brought up with the 144,000?

?????

The 144,000 babies.

You know really....what isn't a lie. Every freaking thing is a lie.

One of the big problems i see for believers who maintain a rapture position. Is that they will stay in Babylon. Believing they will be whisked away from the great tribulation. And that is not what His Scriptures says.At all.
There is no secret return of the Lord. In fact scripture says this about such deception. Even back then some were some saying things in a similar vein as the ungodly rapture doctrines. For there are more than one Rapture doctrines and none of them agree with one another. Which is confusion in?its worst spiritual sense.

2 Timothy 2: 15. Study to shew thyself approved unto Elohim, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18. Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. - Bible Offline

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No.
John 14: 6. YAHshua saith unto him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - Bible Offline

There are a number of very important separations that will happen. And believers who accept the satanic rapture doctrines will skate closely to some of them. Here are three.
The wheat from the tares.
The foolish from the wise.
The sheep from the goats.

There are more