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Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?

 
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
russia never had a chance of accomplishing its real goals.

ukraine is a proxy target, russia actually sought to capture and control the US State of Illinois.

ukraine, nato, eu and even US federal and state government officials and the news media were all doing what they can to help russia succeed and it still wasn't enough.
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Obviously you have a computer. You can also use it to find facts you know.
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by facts you must be talking about russia gains in capturing ukrainian land and cities, i assume.

fortunately for us all armed robbery and occupation doesn't equate to victory.

the War russia is fighting, they are losing, in fact, lost.

gorbechev had laid himself down as a bridge for russia to transition into a world power similar to what the soviet union was generally consider to have been. Gorbechev failed and now russia has no bridge and is trapped in a quagmire than it cannot extricate itself from.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
It's not so much that "Russia is losing" but rather how Russia isn't winning.

Subtle difference, I know, but a difference nonetheless.

On the good ole GLP shilling for one side one the other is commonplace.

Reality on the ground is different.

I will say this, Russia is indeed in trouble. They overlooked the resolve of invaded people to rally round the flag and defend their country.

Russia has got to increase their ground forces and fortifications in occupied territory or they will be pushed back.

Will to fight or to not fight is KEY. UAF has the upper hand in that as well, it's their home and they want to keep it.

This is a slog. A drawn-out fight sucking in the western alliance vis a vis weapons "donations" and other monetary aid etc.

Russia has to break the back of the Europeans through winter cold and zero gas transit.

Unfortunately for Russia IF cutting fossil fuels off fails to have a desired outcome, next year will make 2022 look like a training exercise.

Hold on tight folks. World War 3 is just warming up.


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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
Maybe you better
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
Russia is purchasing millions of rockets and artillery shells from North Korea, source says


this is not what winning looks like, people.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
It was never about Putin, or the state of Russian affairs, or Ukraine, and its Coup by western interests (really WEF, NWO type stuff)...

This is a takedown of a major power, in simultaneous synchronization of the US, and China, and India, etc when it actually happens...

preplanned..players in place...why do you think Biden is there? Hes sooo much a fall guy, its sad. Xi? Putin...literally everyone is a stooge fall guy waiting to be toppled.

The amount of effort I see both pro, and anti Ukraine/Russian war propaganda is immense.

Wish I was wrong, because I have family involved, but this shit is so stupid on the ground level, nobody in Russia, Ukraine believes any of this stupid shit.
 Quoting: pish


I'm surprised your even posting this shit dude, get over it, the fog of war is deep, no one knows anything.

But I'll give you one of these

butthurt9
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77392455


I have family there...so I know more than most.
 Quoting: pish



There are plenty of progressives in this country...whom, if they got a call from a relative across the world would say "things are great". Your family ties give you insight into their opinions...nothing else.

The posts you made about death, and peoples unhappiness has happened in every war in the history of the world. Europe is gonna freeze to death this winter, were gonna be bankrupted by inflation and soaring food costs this winter, a lot of people will stave in North America.. A

Meanwhile old Vlad is killing it by selling all the resources that used to go to the western world to our enemies...for rubles.

How in the fuck is that 'LOSING'?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81898807


I think OP has been brainwashed into thinking Russia will go down and Zelensky will march on Moscow, its all so tiring, btw OP i'm russian, born and living in another country since my parents migrated in the 60s, if your honest saying that you have family over there then you already know that Russians don't think the way the western world thinks, and everything NATO/US are doing is actually strengthening the unity of the russian people.

I'm keeping in touch with some cousins over in St Petersburg and Moscow, things are going great they say, life is as nothing is affecting them at all, lots of companies have left but they will be back, and they don't miss anything.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
russia never had a chance of accomplishing its real goals.

ukraine is a proxy target, russia actually sought to capture and control the US State of Illinois.

ukraine, nato, eu and even US federal and state government officials and the news media were all doing what they can to help russia succeed and it still wasn't enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72517161


Obviously you have a computer. You can also use it to find facts you know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81898807


by facts you must be talking about russia gains in capturing ukrainian land and cities, i assume.

fortunately for us all armed robbery and occupation doesn't equate to victory.

the War russia is fighting, they are losing, in fact, lost.

gorbechev had laid himself down as a bridge for russia to transition into a world power similar to what the soviet union was generally consider to have been. Gorbechev failed and now russia has no bridge and is trapped in a quagmire than it cannot extricate itself from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72517161



I disagree. Lets talk again this winter, when Europe is freezing to death, the west is being bankrupted and starved to death. Meanwhile the ruble has its best year ever, and Russia has already secured deals to sell all of its oil and gas to our enemies for rubles...ousting the USD as global petro dollar.

Also, I find it comical that you describe two decades of broken promises and constant aggressive encroachment by NATO on Russia, as a quagmire caused by a broken bridge lol.
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Russian manufacturing cannot hold up to environmental factors and their logistics plans and training are subpar.

It is not they do not know how to make lethal high tech weapons. It's they fail at alarming rate due to substandard materials that cannot hold up long term environmental conditions and brake break easily like fragile eggs.

Rust, hot cold changes is the enemy of cheap plastics, cheap metal and cheap silicone. Russian tech fails in the field.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
russia never had a chance of accomplishing its real goals.

ukraine is a proxy target, russia actually sought to capture and control the US State of Illinois.

ukraine, nato, eu and even US federal and state government officials and the news media were all doing what they can to help russia succeed and it still wasn't enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72517161


Obviously you have a computer. You can also use it to find facts you know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81898807


by facts you must be talking about russia gains in capturing ukrainian land and cities, i assume.

fortunately for us all armed robbery and occupation doesn't equate to victory.

the War russia is fighting, they are losing, in fact, lost.

gorbechev had laid himself down as a bridge for russia to transition into a world power similar to what the soviet union was generally consider to have been. Gorbechev failed and now russia has no bridge and is trapped in a quagmire than it cannot extricate itself from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72517161



I disagree. Lets talk again this winter, when Europe is freezing to death, the west is being bankrupted and starved to death. Meanwhile the ruble has its best year ever, and Russia has already secured deals to sell all of its oil and gas to our enemies for rubles...ousting the USD as global petro dollar.

Also, I find it comical that you describe two decades of broken promises and constant aggressive encroachment by NATO on Russia, as a quagmire caused by a broken bridge lol.
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it'll probably be a dark winter like we had in the US last winter; nothing happened.

none of that you mentioned symbolizes winning and completely untrue or unimportant.

from the outset of putins desperate adventure into ukraine, he lamented it. so he had some spin doctors come up with a few points that pacify his supporters.

just put the pacicifier back in your mouth and suck on it to comfort you, while russia descends into oblivion.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
Russian manufacturing cannot hold up to environmental factors and their logistics plans and training are subpar.

It is not they do not know how to make lethal high tech weapons. It's they fail at alarming rate due to substandard materials that cannot hold up long term environmental conditions and brake break easily like fragile eggs.

Rust, hot cold changes is the enemy of cheap plastics, cheap metal and cheap silicone. Russian tech fails in the field.
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Now do all of Western Europe without Natural gas this winter, and the US with skyrocketing inflation and food shortages....Go!!
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Russia is purchasing millions of rockets and artillery shells from North Korea, source says


this is not what winning looks like, people.
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SOURCES SAY, SOURCES SAY.

THAT MEANS SHIT.
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09/06/2022 08:08 AM
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
someone should tell putin that his Afro-Indigenous allies in the Americas have abandoned him.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
Are they?
I don’t suffer fools or shills lightly...

Don’t gaslight me, bro.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
someone should tell putin that his Afro-Indigenous allies in the Americas have abandoned him.
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with John Sullivan surprise departure as Ambassador to russia this past Sunday...putin doesn't even have anyone he can talk to at the US embassy.

even Joe Biden is openly trying to help putin find a way out.
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Are they?
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in the parallel reality America lives in.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
it'll probably be a dark winter like we had in the US last winter; nothing happened.

none of that you mentioned symbolizes winning and completely untrue or unimportant.

from the outset of putins desperate adventure into ukraine, he lamented it. so he had some spin doctors come up with a few points that pacify his supporters.

just put the pacicifier back in your mouth and suck on it to comfort you, while russia descends into oblivion.



What the fuck are you talking about? Soaring ruble? fact, and important. Its risen 40% while most western currencies have fallen. In a war stupid, that means his buying power is going up while ours is going down due to inflation. No gas for Western Europe this winter? Fact, very important if you enjoy being alive, or would like to manufacture weapons or equipment to send to Ukraine. . Loss of petro dollar? That will lead to trillions of dollars washing back up on US shores where we are already devastated by inflation that will become hyperinflation. Food Shortages? Fact, and kind of important as we generally die without food.

Im not a supporter of Putin, I am however an independent and critical thinker. The only evidence Ukraine is winning anything is on mainstream western news. Markets show otherwise. Trade shows otherwise. Russias growing power and influence in the east shows otherwise. Even if the west wins the military battle...we've lost the war already because the aforementioned facts will have a huge negative effect on western living for years to come.

I have no idea where the fuck you live, but Im guessing its under a rock. Russias not descending anywhere. I can see western Europes lips on Putins ass cheeks already. Did you see that Ukraine doesn't even have winter uniforms or insulated tents? I supposed Germany is lying or thats just unimportant too eh?

Im thinking your triple vaxxed and boosted.
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09/06/2022 08:26 AM
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
no one cares what you think PISH
you too the jab and attack women on the board

You clearly got a screw loose and should seek help.

But being a dumb asshole is hard to cure, so good luck
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
It was never about Putin, or the state of Russian affairs, or Ukraine, and its Coup by western interests (really WEF, NWO type stuff)...

This is a takedown of a major power, in simultaneous synchronization of the US, and China, and India, etc when it actually happens...

preplanned..players in place...why do you think Biden is there? Hes sooo much a fall guy, its sad. Xi? Putin...literally everyone is a stooge fall guy waiting to be toppled.

The amount of effort I see both pro, and anti Ukraine/Russian war propaganda is immense.

Wish I was wrong, because I have family involved, but this shit is so stupid on the ground level, nobody in Russia, Ukraine believes any of this stupid shit.
 Quoting: pish


I'm surprised your even posting this shit dude, get over it, the fog of war is deep, no one knows anything.

But I'll give you one of these

butthurt9
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I have family there...so I know more than most.
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well you've proven your genes are garbage

so any "family" you say you have over there
is clearly part of the same genetic garbage you come from

go get your booster and attack more women.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
Russia is winning big
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
it'll probably be a dark winter like we had in the US last winter; nothing happened.

none of that you mentioned symbolizes winning and completely untrue or unimportant.

from the outset of putins desperate adventure into ukraine, he lamented it. so he had some spin doctors come up with a few points that pacify his supporters.

just put the pacicifier back in your mouth and suck on it to comfort you, while russia descends into oblivion.



What the fuck are you talking about? Soaring ruble? fact, and important. Its risen 40% while most western currencies have fallen. In a war stupid, that means his buying power is going up while ours is going down due to inflation. No gas for Western Europe this winter? Fact, very important if you enjoy being alive, or would like to manufacture weapons or equipment to send to Ukraine. . Loss of petro dollar? That will lead to trillions of dollars washing back up on US shores where we are already devastated by inflation that will become hyperinflation. Food Shortages? Fact, and kind of important as we generally die without food.

Im not a supporter of Putin, I am however an independent and critical thinker. The only evidence Ukraine is winning anything is on mainstream western news. Markets show otherwise. Trade shows otherwise. Russias growing power and influence in the east shows otherwise. Even if the west wins the military battle...we've lost the war already because the aforementioned facts will have a huge negative effect on western living for years to come.

I have no idea where the fuck you live, but Im guessing its under a rock. Russias not descending anywhere. I can see western Europes lips on Putins ass cheeks already. Did you see that Ukraine doesn't even have winter uniforms or insulated tents? I supposed Germany is lying or thats just unimportant too eh?

Im thinking your triple vaxxed and boosted.
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none of what you are talking about is an indicator of victory in War. its almost as if you don't know what war is.

for example, where are the 'nazis' russia went into ukraine to remove or neutralize? not even ukraine renunciation of NATO membership will stop the war, according to medvedev.

the russians either had no objective or have utterly failed to accomplish their objective. the russians didn't go into ukraine to strengthen the ruble, dipshit.

neither russia, nor its supporters can accept the simple fact that the United States is no more involved in ukraine conflict than are north korea or iran; two countries that russia has sought the assistance of.

who the fuck goes to north korea and iran for military assistance?
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
It was never about Putin, or the state of Russian affairs, or Ukraine, and its Coup by western interests (really WEF, NWO type stuff)...

This is a takedown of a major power, in simultaneous synchronization of the US, and China, and India, etc when it actually happens...

preplanned..players in place...why do you think Biden is there? Hes sooo much a fall guy, its sad. Xi? Putin...literally everyone is a stooge fall guy waiting to be toppled.

The amount of effort I see both pro, and anti Ukraine/Russian war propaganda is immense.

Wish I was wrong, because I have family involved, but this shit is so stupid on the ground level, nobody in Russia, Ukraine believes any of this stupid shit.
 Quoting: pish


Yeah no one controls anything or has any choice or any power. Ask me how I know you’ve never been employed.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
Have family there..

Consensus is that both sides have had tremendous casualties, and its all a political gamble...

Nobody wins.

Russians are tired of political BS. I know GLP has a lot invested into this, but real world reality will win out...doesn't mean the Ukraine wins, but no matter what Russia has lost, and will be defeated in a sense.

Nobody on the border is supporting unless forced to.

Let that sink in.
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You're lying or your family in Russia are libtards. I know that from MY family who are spread out all over Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.
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russia, under sanctions, for its barbarism, goes to north korea and iran for help, two places also under sanctions.

and somehow, clearly emotional retards find victory in that pile of shit.
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Europe says "Price cap on your oil and gas"

Russia says, "Then No oil and gas for you"

lol

Russia is grinding the Nato supported nazis into the ground. The so called counter offensive was a trap and UKr fell for it and are getting decimated.
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THIS

How anyone can believe the western media bs that Russia's losing?

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I'm not anti-Russia BTW...

Its just the way of the world...

They are subjected to the same problems everyone else is...

It's truly the UN, WEF, CERN running the galaxy ATM.

This was all planned...

decades ago...

You should have stopped it in 1990...

Too late now.

Covfefe is in full effect, and is unstoppable now.

Welcome to the new age.
Always remember these words: Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty! That is the Turtle Hermit way! We must master the art of peace in addition to the art of war!
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
it'll probably be a dark winter like we had in the US last winter; nothing happened.

none of that you mentioned symbolizes winning and completely untrue or unimportant.

from the outset of putins desperate adventure into ukraine, he lamented it. so he had some spin doctors come up with a few points that pacify his supporters.

just put the pacicifier back in your mouth and suck on it to comfort you, while russia descends into oblivion.



What the fuck are you talking about? Soaring ruble? fact, and important. Its risen 40% while most western currencies have fallen. In a war stupid, that means his buying power is going up while ours is going down due to inflation. No gas for Western Europe this winter? Fact, very important if you enjoy being alive, or would like to manufacture weapons or equipment to send to Ukraine. . Loss of petro dollar? That will lead to trillions of dollars washing back up on US shores where we are already devastated by inflation that will become hyperinflation. Food Shortages? Fact, and kind of important as we generally die without food.

Im not a supporter of Putin, I am however an independent and critical thinker. The only evidence Ukraine is winning anything is on mainstream western news. Markets show otherwise. Trade shows otherwise. Russias growing power and influence in the east shows otherwise. Even if the west wins the military battle...we've lost the war already because the aforementioned facts will have a huge negative effect on western living for years to come.

I have no idea where the fuck you live, but Im guessing its under a rock. Russias not descending anywhere. I can see western Europes lips on Putins ass cheeks already. Did you see that Ukraine doesn't even have winter uniforms or insulated tents? I supposed Germany is lying or thats just unimportant too eh?

Im thinking your triple vaxxed and boosted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81898807


none of what you are talking about is an indicator of victory in War. its almost as if you don't know what war is.

for example, where are the 'nazis' russia went into ukraine to remove or neutralize? not even ukraine renunciation of NATO membership will stop the war, according to medvedev.

the russians either had no objective or have utterly failed to accomplish their objective. the russians didn't go into ukraine to strengthen the ruble, dipshit.

neither russia, nor its supporters can accept the simple fact that the United States is no more involved in ukraine conflict than are north korea or iran; two countries that russia has sought the assistance of.

who the fuck goes to north korea and iran for military assistance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72517161



You can't even form a proper sentence for fucks sake. Zelensky? Is that you? Russia went into Ukraine because Putins puppet regime was toppled and replaced by a US Led NATO puppet regime. Putin has been warning NATO for years to stop encroaching on Russia. All NATO does is break promise after promise...so the expected outcome from repeatedly poking the bear has happened. Putin was surely going to invade before any Nordic countries joined NATO...he is sending a message.

The Ukraine is the remote headquarters for western debauchery and corruption. Human trafficking, Money laundering, drug running,not to mention a shit ton of American sponsored Bio labs. Ever heard of Hunter Biden? Hes a totally legit American businessman operating in Ukraine.
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NATO and Russia are allied, shit for brains.

you are the one that is confused.

but i'll enjoy watching all you stupid bitches flounder on the sea shore.
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NATO and Russia are allied, shit for brains.

you are the one that is confused.

but i'll enjoy watching all you stupid bitches flounder on the sea shore.
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for the rest of you read closely.

Russia and NATO have been allied since its inception in 1947.

the United States IS NOT a member of NATO...its an illusion.
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Sigh.... peoples believing the medias.

Keep watching CNN op.
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
It was never about Putin, or the state of Russian affairs, or Ukraine, and its Coup by western interests (really WEF, NWO type stuff)...

This is a takedown of a major power, in simultaneous synchronization of the US, and China, and India, etc when it actually happens...

preplanned..players in place...why do you think Biden is there? Hes sooo much a fall guy, its sad. Xi? Putin...literally everyone is a stooge fall guy waiting to be toppled.

The amount of effort I see both pro, and anti Ukraine/Russian war propaganda is immense.

Wish I was wrong, because I have family involved, but this shit is so stupid on the ground level, nobody in Russia, Ukraine believes any of this stupid shit.
 Quoting: pish





Bwahahaaha.
Russia and Ukraine had a deal months ago. Aside from small incursions to make it look like live theater it is not.

USA keeps sending money, Europe keeps failing in energy. Winter is coming.....
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Re: Is anyone surprised Russia is "Losing"?
Russia is not losing and couldnt.

This operation is just the begining of their end , ukraine and eu and nato.

stay tuned, wait for winter to come.

we could do this "war" for 300 years plus 10k nukes.





GLP