Why are there Different Perceptions of the Creator? Each has their own Perspective

That's your opinion.

Interesting video that shows how the Kabbalah Rabbi's and Gnostics share some of the same concepts. Thanks for sharing this video op.

You are correct. God is not hiding within people.

He is always there but we harden our hearts with pride and then only hear the voice of our own ego.

Repentance is recognizing our sin of pride and humbling ourselves so that we can again hear God's Spirit within us guide and direct us.

Instead of just flapping your lips...
..you might have posted a verse that proves your....

...oh wait - you can't - there aren't any.

I guess you missed the verse where Jesus said...

...'we will come to you'.

Repentance is re-establishing our link to God by recognizing our sin, repenting of that sin in order to allow God's voice to come to us again. You missed the many verses about God's Spirit filling us and dwelling in our hearts.

The Bible does not address everything and give us the answers to all knowledge. Instead the Bible gives us history as examples and teaches what God expects of us. It emphasizes belief in God and treating others as ourselves.

The way things might be structured is based on what I know of the Bible along with psychology.

Prove that you even exist from a single verse in the Bible.

You can't.

You only believe that you exist because of your being aware of yourself. Where does awareness come from and can you prove it from the Bible?

Prove that you belong to God.

You can't even prove that.

There is not a single verse that says sotl is among God's children.

You can only quote verses that define God's children and then CLAIM that you are one.

But only God knows who are his.

There are many that claim to be by citing their works, but if the works are coming from your own ego, they don't count.

That is why the meek and humble are blessed as they follow God's Spirit instead of their own ego.

Each of us needs look hard at who we are and what motivates us?

Is it ego or God's Spirit.

Why do you name call and abuse people in your posts. That is not treating others with love and patience as the Bible instructs. Shame on you sotl! You should repent of that and correct your behavior with the little time that is left.

Exactly. Other rabbi's would explain things differently because there is the Creator's words and then what those words mean. Most of the time there is meaning beyond the literal meaning. That is why Jesus taught in parables.

The Creator isn't hiding within people, but people have separated themselves from hearing the Creator by following their pride and ego as Satan did.

The Creator can do anything It wants as It is outside of this illusion. It is the ultimate programmer. It is in GODMODE.

Thanks for the comment. I posted a reply to Servant of the Lord before reading this. I basically said the same thing only with many more words. I need to read through my thread all the way before I start posting.....

Again, you are correct in that is my opinion. It is my path and you are on a different path with your own opinions on what scripture means.

This thread was started as a discussion of people's different perceptions of the Creator. It was intended for sharing different perceptions and perspectives to assist those searching for truth.

I appreciate your perspective as it illustrates those that take a rigid, literal interpretation of what scripture says about the Creator in contrast to those that go within and walk with and experience the Creator's guidance and love.

Talking the talk and walking the talk are two very different approaches. One is head knowledge only, the other is head and heart knowledge which leads to wisdom from above.

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All facets of the one large Diamond.

Yes, a very large diamond.

Mankind's eternal conflict is denying the Creator within each of us. That is what causes separation as we see ourselves separate from all else instead of part of all creation.

Some good thoughts in this video (10:56 in length).




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It is the heart that unifies the outside world with the inside spiritual connection to the Devine. The heart filled with love has the ability to unify all into One.

Evil is the messenger to awaken man to know himself.

Another good short video (11:08)



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Last Edited by danielbarzohar on 09/30/2022 12:57 AM

Just the fact that I'm READING the Bible - and reading what God has said in millenia past - is proof that I exist.

I breathe and can feel my own heartbeat.

I wouldn't have those if God hadn't created me.




Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 09/30/2022 06:42 AM

Show us ONE person alive today that has the FULL measure of the Holy Spirit - like Jesus did in the Wilderness.

You can't.

Believers sin and backslide all the time.

Even teachers / pastoers / theologians give false teachings all the time.

Kenneth Copeland? Benny Hinn?

How about Pre-Trib Rapture teachers?
'Jesus is the Father Himself' teachers?
'Jesus is the Holy Spirit' teachers?
'Jesus is an angel' teachers?
'Jesus is Christ Michael' teachers?

I could go on.

The point is that the Holy Spirit isn't preventing anyone from sinning / giving falst teachings.

We must remain vigilant - and endure.

Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study

This life - our earthly existence - isn't an 'illusion'.

We're NOT living in a 'simulation' - I don't care how you try to present it.

Jesus' parables could be understood by many - as Jesus said 'those who have ears'.

Yet whenever He was asked for an explanation, He ALWAYS gave one. Why? Because those asking were humbly seeking.

Gnostic opinion.

Mankind's issues started with disobedience.

Eve first - then Adam too - couldn't even obey ONE simple command.... 'do NOT eat from that tree'.

It had nothing to do with 'denying the Creator within'.

After the Fallen came to earth - most of mankind just flatout ignored that the Living God even existed - and worshipped all manner of beings etc... even fake gods that only existed in their heads.

That because there is more than one creator god.

And also that Satan has tricked the majority of this world into believing that he is a creator god.

Its easy not to understand who the creator is, when everyone has been convinced to worship Satan and honor him as the creator.

That was a command from Satan.

The Garden of Eden was the personal home of Satan.

The snake was the True Creator, coming to free his children from Satan.

It was the snake that looked after Adam and Eve after they left the guardian, not the Satan Yahweh.

It was the snake that gave Adam, Seth, and Enoch knowledge.

It was the snake that Enoch walked with.

That snake was the true creator of EArth, Ea.

El Shaddai is one of the title's of the Satan, Sin.

Thread: Other 'gods' Never Existed - No Evidence - Only the Father in Heaven is a God - KJV Bible Study / World Religions

Fail, that proves nothing. You can't refer to things within a dream to prove you are not a dream.

Where is your Bible verse to prove you exist?
How about James 4:14 -

"Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes."

You are aware as a thought in God's dream. All you really know is that you are aware. The rest is just interpretation of what your dream senses are receiving from the dream.

Jesus said there would be many that will be filled with the Holy Spirit and do greater things than Jesus did in John 14:12

"Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father."

So there are many. They are humble and don't seem attention for themselves. They quietly go about doing God's will.

So they are not the televangelist. Studies show that 70 percent of preachers today are self serving narcissist that manipulate God's word and people for their own benefit.

Prove that we don't live in an illusion. You can't.

The video explained that our pride and ego are the tree of knowledge of good and evil while God within us is the tree of life. When we follow our pride and ego we eat of the wrong tree with the result being duality in our awareness.

The disobedience is eating from the wrong tree. We puff ourselves up and don't listen to God.

The return to source series is very good. Here is another worthwhile video.

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Here is episode 7.


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