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Does violent culture produce a violent society?

 
Deplorable Zenobia

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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
The answer is dependent upon the times. The common denominator is our species being a warring type of critter.

In past history, some of the most violent people were also the most civilized society (micro) that had to become violent in order to maintain their peace against an enemy. Or risk losing it.

Fast fwd to today....still true today but now there are a helluva lot more elites, ass-hats out there who do not want peace but chaos.

E.g., how the hip-hop genre got kicked to the curb for gansta' rap saturation, which factored into more ppl going to prison, which just happened to go privatized

Last Edited by Deplorable Zenobia on 09/17/2022 03:42 PM
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09/17/2022 03:51 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
Somalia answer the question? Ilhan Omar and her country folk are enriching her district with their special brand of diversity.
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09/17/2022 03:53 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
America has a violent culture. Violent rap, violent video games, violent media.

Is the culture of violence producing the violence we are now witnessing?
 Quoting: Your Royal Augustus




Yes.
Just don't make anything up.
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09/17/2022 03:54 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
Yep, to some extent .But I think it takes someone who is aware to not let violence influence them.

I used to listen to rap music until recently and I've never wanted to harm people. I also watch movies with violence and I play video games with violence. Never once did it influence me to harm.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


The issue is children being brought up in incessant violence all day during their formative years - on the TV screen, game console, and in music.

And it is not just a violence issue. It is also a sex issue because we are drenched with an oversexed culture, which may be even worse than the violence itself psychologically speaking.

We are the first society in history with this amount of sex and violence 24/7 from childhood and it will not end well.

We are in terminal decline and it is irreversible except by an act of God.
 Quoting: Secretizer


You are right! It does start at home with children. The over sexual culture in America is a problem too. This is why I don't want my baby to watch TV when he or she is growing up.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


You should also homeschool!
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
America has a violent culture. Violent rap, violent video games, violent media.

Is the culture of violence producing the violence we are now witnessing?
 Quoting: Your Royal Augustus


That’s a rhetorical question, right?
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
Yet, they hide it.
They blur out dead bodies and blood and guts.
If that was shown more, the ugly truth, maybe things can change.
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09/17/2022 04:13 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
Lets cut to the chase shall we.

Gun ownership as a percentage of the population has decreased since 1960.
1960- 43% of US households owned a gun
2016- 32% owned a gun

[link to www.rand.org (secure)]

So, the percentage of gun owners has decreased. Yet the number of mass shootings has increased.


[link to reason.com (secure)]

Your question is does violent culture produce a violent society.
I think it is better asked as follows- Does violence in entertainment produce a violent society?

[link to tvovermind.com (secure)]

[link to collider.com (secure)]

If you have a chance, read "On Killing" by David Grossman.
Like him, I believe our violent culture/society is to be blamed squarely on violent movies and games.

Television and movies are a form of hypnosis. Watching violence becomes a desensitizing and glorifying experience.
Media do not mimic life. They mold the future image of reality.
Think of that the next time you watch a show with violence, gay characters, or any other subject that was unmentionable in your youth.
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09/17/2022 04:18 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
We all remember the old saying "you are what you eat."
Our brains function the same way. Violence in= violence out.
Lack of civility in= lack of civility out.
Be very careful what you allow to feed your brain.
Most of society runs on autopilot without introspective thought.
That allows an easily manipulated populace.
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09/17/2022 04:38 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
America has a violent culture. Violent rap, violent video games, violent media.

Is the culture of violence producing the violence we are now witnessing?
 Quoting: Your Royal Augustus


Americas violent culture has derived from perpetually being at war for over a hundred years.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83922841


No, it's that the federal government trades like we're a member of the commonwealth.
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09/17/2022 05:59 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
Acceptance of violent culture breeds more violent culture.

BLM riots were acceptable, because it was just letting people vent their frustrations and anger. "For the people who came here to destroy, we gave them room to do that". Will Smith bitch slapping Chris Rock at the Oscars. When the legal system does not punish violent criminals, it just encourages more violent crimes.

So now, Black people (committing 99% of the violence), see it, as acceptable, to immediately go to physical violence for any perceived wrong, or disrespect, against them.
 Quoting: StopsniffinmeBrandon




I am pretty sure now we are going to go through a bit of mad max, certainly more in the 'big cities' and especially in blue states.

Thugs will be finding out in many places how many 'good citizens' are armed, and will shoot when 'law and order' break down.
God Fearing Atheist

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09/17/2022 06:10 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
America has a violent culture. Violent rap, violent video games, violent media.

Is the culture of violence producing the violence we are now witnessing?
 Quoting: Your Royal Augustus


Humanity is violent.
America is just better at everything.
 Quoting: MAGA Republican BrainGuy


It only took one generation for the first murderer.
 Quoting: Weyoun


What do you mean. The first woman Lilith was killed by God because she did not want to lie under Adam. It was God that also demanded blood sacrifice as well. Which led to the first murder.
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09/17/2022 06:15 PM

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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
Yep, to some extent .But I think it takes someone who is aware to not let violence influence them.

I used to listen to rap music until recently and I've never wanted to harm people. I also watch movies with violence and I play video games with violence. Never once did it influence me to harm.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


The issue is children being brought up in incessant violence all day during their formative years - on the TV screen, game console, and in music.

And it is not just a violence issue. It is also a sex issue because we are drenched with an oversexed culture, which may be even worse than the violence itself psychologically speaking.

We are the first society in history with this amount of sex and violence 24/7 from childhood and it will not end well.

We are in terminal decline and it is irreversible except by an act of God.
 Quoting: Secretizer


You are right! It does start at home with children. The over sexual culture in America is a problem too. This is why I don't want my baby to watch TV when he or she is growing up.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


You should also homeschool!
 Quoting: Weyoun


I most definitely will!
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09/17/2022 06:25 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
America has a violent culture. Violent rap, violent video games, violent media.

Is the culture of violence producing the violence we are now witnessing?
 Quoting: Your Royal Augustus


Of course! There were studies done about television in the 80s and they determined and published that. The TV guides regularly published about this since the early 70s.

But then came the 90s with close up gore TV (E.R. anyone?) and everyone had amnesia about those TV studies.

There were studies about violent video games, also. It's what they call garbage in/out.
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09/17/2022 06:29 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
America has a violent culture. Violent rap, violent video games, violent media.

Is the culture of violence producing the violence we are now witnessing?
 Quoting: Your Royal Augustus


Butchering native Americans beats anything you can throw on your list of modern day cultural damnations.

Burning of witches. Terrorizing blacks.

Did you think past America was some sort of safe space for the anti violence dreamers?

Nature hasn't changed. Only the stage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79179823


No witches were ever burned in the US
Just a fact
Alabaster Braintrust

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09/17/2022 06:33 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
Culture is a reflection of society.
For example, "gansta rap" didn't create inner city violence...it describes it.
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09/17/2022 06:35 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
It's the other way around.
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09/17/2022 08:07 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
America has a violent culture. Violent rap, violent video games, violent media.

Is the culture of violence producing the violence we are now witnessing?
 Quoting: Your Royal Augustus


Well my mom drove me around the houses that I owned and reminded me of all the work that I did that was taken from me stopped turned to me and said anyone that judges me was going straight to hell ...I believe her
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09/17/2022 08:08 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
Low IQ races produce violent culture and violent society.
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
This is a violent fucked up PLANET...not just America.


But...once you get out of the Democrat shithole urban centers...America is not really that violent.


Go out to the country.


Suburbs at least.

Stay out of the Democrap shitholes.

You're welcome!

Last Edited by High Desert Cat on 09/17/2022 08:14 PM
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09/17/2022 08:17 PM
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Re: Does violent culture produce a violent society?
Lets cut to the chase shall we.

Gun ownership as a percentage of the population has decreased since 1960.
1960- 43% of US households owned a gun
2016- 32% owned a gun

[link to www.rand.org (secure)]

So, the percentage of gun owners has decreased. Yet the number of mass shootings has increased.


[link to reason.com (secure)]

Your question is does violent culture produce a violent society.
I think it is better asked as follows- Does violence in entertainment produce a violent society?

[link to tvovermind.com (secure)]

[link to collider.com (secure)]

If you have a chance, read "On Killing" by David Grossman.
Like him, I believe our violent culture/society is to be blamed squarely on violent movies and games.

Television and movies are a form of hypnosis. Watching violence becomes a desensitizing and glorifying experience.
Media do not mimic life. They mold the future image of reality.
Think of that the next time you watch a show with violence, gay characters, or any other subject that was unmentionable in your youth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84200743


Cut to the chase?

Lol

The rate is lower because of population increase.

Bottom line is that there are now more guns in more hands along with a higher rate of gun violence. That's the "rate" that matters





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