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You guys want to talk about survival knives?

 
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Yeah nice blade but illegal in my state of PA
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yeahsure 2nd Amendnent says otherwise. Don't be a wuss.
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I only have my Rambo Survival Knife that I ordered from the back of a Popular Mechanics magazine in 1985.

I sent cash, even though they said not to, and still got it.

Inside the handle is everything you need to survive, LOL!




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The hollow handle with fishing line and hooks, matches and I think there was a wire saw in there…lmao
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And compass, got mine at Pigeon Forge, TN...lol

I have a Gerber BMF, it's a beast, can split wood easily. Also has a sharpening steel, and a compass!
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I really don’t understand the hate for this thread? lmao
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Probably because this is a conspiracy site where people talk about paranormal and spiritual things.

Not some autism board where you can sperg out about knives and other stupid materialism shit to buy.

Take this crap over to Reddit. You’ll fit in better there.

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Not true, Trinity has brought many a survival thread to the pins.
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So... thread has come this far, but still no mention of Tracker designs?

The TOPS trackers are very versatile. The full-size #1 Tracker in finished configuration is a .25" slab of cutting machine. A bit wide to be an efficient slicer, but heavy enough to do hatchet work, use the front round edge like a Ulu, has a pretty lengthy straight edge, and that Great TOPS round edge that transitions the two and makes so many other tasks possible.

Not really a big fan of the scout carry metal clips TOPS uses on their Kydex scabbards, but other hardware can be rigged to work. If you had only one knife to work with, a Tracker might be what you'd want.

I mean, what are The Key Bushcraft Skills, for a survival event? Being able to create tinder to make a fire, process small wood for tending the fire, cutting and processing roots/vines for cordage, being able to baton small to medium diameter wood pieces, notching to enable fastening and tie downs. The Tracker reviews I've seen all remark about the knife's design working okay but not excelling greatly at all of these survival situation chores.

Pretty obvious that the Tracker works for skinning and other meat processing chores.

We once bought a young sheep from a homeschool friend down in Tx. Processing the carcass on our kitchen utility table was a very big task. I'd killed deer, but never processed and wrapped the meat. Not much of a big deal with an 80lb sheep, but splitting the pelvis was one helluva job. We have a Dexter meat cleaver, commercial grade, very thick steel. To cleave the pelvis I had to baton the cleaver with a piece of 2x4, which was fully destroyed by time the pelvis finally split.

So game processing is likely to be a real chore with any knife. Then there is the fact that bones are so heavy and brittle, as The DBK Guys show often enough, hammering bone will chip many of the hi-tech knife steels.


While the TOPS Tracker is meant to be a heavy-duty wilderness tool box of capabilities, I really wish could get it w/o the notching sawback spine. Maybe the splintering of your baton wood is supposed to happen to make fire starting materials? I dunno, but the whole notching thing is kind of over blown.


My own preference is the TOPS Skullcrusher design. Pretty much the same knife, except less blade sweep up front and a longer area for drawknife work behind the rounded transition edge between front and back. The SXB also has a bit more versatile handle and better sheath.

What I don't have, but have considered is the TOPS Cuma. One of these is available w/o the sawback. The Cuma has more of a Kukri sweep and lacks the focused round edge, but does have the solid spine, enabling easier use as a skinning blade. The Cuma also has a more versatile point for hole-making. Seems to be a modified short Kukri in many ways an excellent design.


There really is no other company like TOPS for all their incredible designs and quality results. Could they do better sheaths? For sure.

Back to the Tracker though... The #1 and #3 are the largest sizes; 3 being titanium, iirc. These knives are heavy and have a real hawk-hatchet sweep on the forward blade. With enough lanyard to choke way back on the micarta handle, they chop pretty effectively. The #2 is medium sized which is very versatile, and the #4 is a mini-Tracker, maybe a great neck knife if you want the a small package of Tracker features.
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Yeah nice blade but illegal in my state of PA
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yeahsure 2nd Amendnent says otherwise. Don't be a wuss.
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Naw already thought of that…if you ever had to use it in defense you would be fucked
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hesright
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I really don’t understand the hate for this thread? lmao
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Probably because this is a conspiracy site where people talk about paranormal and spiritual things.

Not some autism board where you can sperg out about knives and other stupid materialism shit to buy.

Take this crap over to Reddit. You’ll fit in better there.

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FTARH-spicoliUD
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Benchmade OTF Infidel
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Yeah nice blade but illegal in my state of PA
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yeahsure 2nd Amendnent says otherwise. Don't be a wuss.
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Naw already thought of that…if you ever had to use it in defense you would be fucked
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yeahsure Only if you got yourself killed.
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Yeah nice blade but illegal in my state of PA
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yeahsure 2nd Amendnent says otherwise. Don't be a wuss.
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Naw already thought of that…if you ever had to use it in defense you would be fucked
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yeahsure Only if you got yourself killed.
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Naw, if I used that in self defense and killer someone and it was justifiable I would still be fucked by using an illegal blade. Not worth it. The funny thing is in PA you could literally walk around with a machete on your hip but if you have a 3 in assist blade you could be arrested
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172$....

Get some steel and a file dude, geeze...
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172$....

Get some steel and a file dude, geeze...
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Actually it was $191.00 didn’t get from bladeHQ because it wasn’t in stock
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Trinity made a video about his survival homestead which made a lot of people flip their wig...lofl!

Even had the famous GLP telescope in it!
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I'm old school, USMC K-Bar
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hesright
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I really don’t understand the hate for this thread? lmao
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Probably because this is a conspiracy site where people talk about paranormal and spiritual things.

Not some autism board where you can sperg out about knives and other stupid materialism shit to buy.

Take this crap over to Reddit. You’ll fit in better there.

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Oh? You mean it’s not a site where half the shit is dumbasses whining about not having a girlfriend, the laundry list of fast food they’re going to go get or “conspiracy” shit that’s so fucking stupid it gives you hysterical blindness just reading it? It’s not THAT kind of site you fuckin’ asshole? About a 1/16 of the content on here is worth a shit. If that. But the stuff that is god is worth it. I don’t think a thread about survival knives is even close to being inappropriate on here. So lighten up, Francis.
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I like the Schrade SCHF36 Frontier. Got it for 25.00 dollars. Tough son of a gun.
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I'm old school, USMC K-Bar
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hesright
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I really don’t understand the hate for this thread? lmao
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Probably because this is a conspiracy site where people talk about paranormal and spiritual things.

Not some autism board where you can sperg out about knives and other stupid materialism shit to buy.

Take this crap over to Reddit. You’ll fit in better there.

goaway
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Oh? You mean it’s not a site where half the shit is dumbasses whining about not having a girlfriend, the laundry list of fast food they’re going to go get or “conspiracy” shit that’s so fucking stupid it gives you hysterical blindness just reading it? It’s not THAT kind of site you fuckin’ asshole? About a 1/16 of the content on here is worth a shit. If that. But the stuff that is god is worth it. I don’t think a thread about survival knives is even close to being inappropriate on here. So lighten up, Francis.
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I'm old school, USMC K-Bar
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hesright
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I really don’t understand the hate for this thread? lmao
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Probably because this is a conspiracy site where people talk about paranormal and spiritual things.

Not some autism board where you can sperg out about knives and other stupid materialism shit to buy.

Take this crap over to Reddit. You’ll fit in better there.

goaway
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Oh? You mean it’s not a site where half the shit is dumbasses whining about not having a girlfriend, the laundry list of fast food they’re going to go get or “conspiracy” shit that’s so fucking stupid it gives you hysterical blindness just reading it? It’s not THAT kind of site you fuckin’ asshole? About a 1/16 of the content on here is worth a shit. If that. But the stuff that is god is worth it. I don’t think a thread about survival knives is even close to being inappropriate on here. So lighten up, Francis.
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I agree that all that shit is stupid too. It’s more garbage that belongs on Reddit or whatever their preferred social media platform is, not here.

Any knife is a survival knife if you need one. You’d have to be a real autistic loser to sperg out all day about knives. What’s there to talk about? They cut things and some fold closed.

Wow that’s soooooo fascinating. Tell me more

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Never did see the value in "survival knives". If your gonna pack the weight around why not use a Leatherman?

You get the knife plus lots of other tools.

Unless you plan on being in a knife fight, then I'd want the big blade.
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yeahsure 2nd Amendnent says otherwise. Don't be a wuss.
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Naw already thought of that…if you ever had to use it in defense you would be fucked
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yeahsure Only if you got yourself killed.
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Naw, if I used that in self defense and killer someone and it was justifiable I would still be fucked by using an illegal blade. Not worth it. The funny thing is in PA you could literally walk around with a machete on your hip but if you have a 3 in assist blade you could be arrested
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yeahsure Brah, the Constitution REALLY is the supreme law of the land and it supersedes all BS statutes designed and intended to infringe on the people's right to keep and bear arms. The key is knowing how to properly enter it as governing law in a case.

A guy in my study group beat an "illegal" gun charge in NY by using the Constitution. The case paved the way for the recent Supreme Court decision that NY's gun permit restrictions are unconstitional.

Learning to defend yourself with the Constitution is no more difficult than learning about tangs, choils and blade geometry. Just as a good knife and bushcraft skills will save you out in the wilderness, knowlege of court procedure and the Consitition will save you from a government gone rouge! Do it!

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Never did see the value in "survival knives". If your gonna pack the weight around why not use a Leatherman?

You get the knife plus lots of other tools.

Unless you plan on being in a knife fight, then I'd want the big blade.
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Can’t split wood with a leatherman…can’t do lots of things with them and trust me I love mine. But in a SHTF scenario or even lost in the woods that really won’t do much for you.
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I have a couple of collectible custom knives. Just never use them. Too valuable. Fallkniven, Randall, Chris Reeve, and other top tier blades are just worth the bigtime extra money to me.

Have thought about a Mora Granberg with full tang, but...

Bark River Knives are pretty widely acclaimed for performance at the bottom price rung of the Top Tier. There are just so many fine knifemakers now. TOPS is just an incredible resource for varied designs.

Most of the CS knives I had were replaced with Ontario models. The SP53 bolo type blade, SP5 standard Bowie, their Kukri. All excellent value. Went with the Esee Junglas over the large RAT. Becker-KaBar are very high quality basic knives.

Probably all the carbon steel knives with thick coatings would cost lots more, but using the coating, the mfrs don't have to polish and prep the blade as they would otherwise. The coating can be applied to finish quality over a blade that has many irregularities. Cheaper to spray than grind and polish.
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BEST survival knife EVER. HOODLUM. [link to www.bladehq.com (secure)]
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I no longer own any Buck knives.

The TOPS Anaconda was Ron Hoods knife, iirc. Buck did make some of Ron's design, but... The Anaconda is basically their Steel Eagle design in tanto or bowie tip. The CS Trailmaster was also a Hoodlum's favorite. I was in that forum back in the mid 90s. Lots of knife freaks on the board, and many knifemaker & bushcrafter soon-to-bes on that site back then. Karen & Ron were cool folk. Great videos. Cave Cooking etc...


I don't trust pocket knives. Would rather have a fixed blade. Have a couple Ontario Pilot's Survival Knives. Pretty good knives. Prefer full tang rather than rat tail tang. The SXB companion and Tracker #2 are my idea of small knives. Also have a Gerber Pixie from a chef's set, has the alum handle etc. Old Gerber is good stuff.

Anyone making their own Kydex sheaths? Been thinking about making some. Any tips?

Those TOPS Eagle knives are really excellent
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So I was in the market for a new mid sized knife and grabbed this one. It’s a Tops knives Silent Hero… didn’t get it yet but on its way. Will have to update when received.

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What is yours?
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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)] i use this one, and the becker harpoon
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Anything from ESEE.

Can't beat them for the money, and lifetime unconditional warranty.
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The early 90s Gerber BMF and LMF knives were excellent. Not the new LMF...

Can make your own knife. I have some truck leaf springs outside always intended to craft into knife or short sword. Where get the proper heat treat?

Selling my older gear freed up money to buy better stuff with better heat treat.


Survival covers a lot of territory. Kind of like Preparedness. If prepared for situation you expect, things likely work out fine. Unanticipated situation? Probably not so good...

Is a 9" blade too big? Would rather have an axe than a knife? Is a Ulu-headed hatchet a versatile tool? What about Kukri inspired blades?

The Buck Skinner and Personal sheath knives made a cool combo kit for dressing out game animals; but are either of them Survival Knives on their own? Probably not, alone or together. Do you need skinning capability? Maybe if harvesting fur for other use, but that is likely NOT a early stage survival concern.

Lots of guys using OKC Old Hickory butcher knives etc for reenactment and bushcrafting. Replace the wood handle and you have a cheap custom.


Do you carry a versatile knife for preparedness?

Are Bowie inspired fighting knives "survival knives"? Does a Survival Knife need a blood groove?
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Anything from ESEE.

Can't beat them for the money, and lifetime unconditional warranty.
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im going to get a esee5 rockon
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Anything from ESEE.

Can't beat them for the money, and lifetime unconditional warranty.
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im going to get a esee5 rockon [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] you can never have to many knives imo.
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i also need a good ax/hatchet, any ideas?
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Anything from ESEE.

Can't beat them for the money, and lifetime unconditional warranty.
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im going to get a esee5 rockon
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You will not be disappointed.
I have lots of knives of different makes and models but if I could pick only one to have with me during the apocalipse it would be an ESEE(the hardest part is picking which one,I have several).
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Esee makes a nice product. They have about 8 designs, but make numerous catalog variations. TOPS takes an opposite approach, also nice product, but few, if any, variations on a particular model; just many, many different blade designs.

Both Great Value knives. Esee Junglas for me. I stripped the blade coating, and ground in a finger choil. Now it's a Great Knife.


Anyone use the Esee Survival Kit on their sheath? Pretty neat pouch; I dunno about the kit contents. The Altoids tin kits were a constant topic on Hoodlums way back when.

Reallybigmonkey1 on YT almost always fastens a mora or some other small fixed blade knife to his matchete scabbards. The BK-9 has a pouch and sleeve for a Becker Remora, essentially a neck knife. Monkey likes a pouch for his folding saw and mora knife sheath on his machete Scabbard.

If you're carrying a Survival Knife, are you also carrying a pack of some sort? ALICE era buttpack with shoulder straps? A fanny pack? Lowe made a nice padded fanny pack & belt with 2 water bottle holders. Can put other pouches on the belt too, but becomes a Belt & Suspenders kind of deal.

What are your other Carry Items if you are out in the woods w/your Survival Knife?
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What about Fire-Making?

I have several magnesium/ferro rod bars got from Wallyworld. Never thought of them as something to rely on.

The whole 90deg spine carbon-steel knife to enable ferro rod use seems like bs. I have several welder's sparking tools. They throw a good spark, the fints are cheap and replaceable, and the sparker is covered in back to spark goes toward the gas or ignition source.

We have thick moss on our trees up here. Spruce and Birch bark burn very easily.

Does anybody, other than Buckskinner reenacotors use Char Cloth for any serious reason? Cotton soaked in vaseline, or kerosene etc is easy to do and bound to ignite readily. Char Cloth better?

Is there any reason to not carry the best and most reliable fire sources? Those Coughlan wind-proof matches are pretty good. Got Strike Anywhere matches? Bic lighters will be a sparking tool long after the butane is empty. Got a Zippo?
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Esee makes a nice product. They have about 8 designs, but make numerous catalog variations. TOPS takes an opposite approach, also nice product, but few, if any, variations on a particular model; just many, many different blade designs.

Both Great Value knives. Esee Junglas for me. I stripped the blade coating, and ground in a finger choil. Now it's a Great Knife.


Anyone use the Esee Survival Kit on their sheath? Pretty neat pouch; I dunno about the kit contents. The Altoids tin kits were a constant topic on Hoodlums way back when.

Reallybigmonkey1 on YT almost always fastens a mora or some other small fixed blade knife to his matchete scabbards. The BK-9 has a pouch and sleeve for a Becker Remora, essentially a neck knife. Monkey likes a pouch for his folding saw and mora knife sheath on his machete Scabbard.

If you're carrying a Survival Knife, are you also carrying a pack of some sort? ALICE era buttpack with shoulder straps? A fanny pack? Lowe made a nice padded fanny pack & belt with 2 water bottle holders. Can put other pouches on the belt too, but becomes a Belt & Suspenders kind of deal.

What are your other Carry Items if you are out in the woods w/your Survival Knife?
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glock,bic lighter,mag.glass,compass,satt.phone,pocket water filter [link to www.katadyngroup.com (secure)] and this [link to www.katadyngroup.com (secure)] its awsome.. and a mini fishing pole.. i needs to eat!!





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