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I joined the military after 9/11. My Dad and brother came to pick me up from Ft. Benning after basic training, and we were driving back home to the west coast before I deployed to my unit.

I was riding in the passenger seat while dozing off and we were somewhere in TX and it must have been a little after 3AM. My Dad must have started falling asleep at the wheel and we began to roll in the median. I was half asleep so I woke up to us slipping off the highway and rolling... White, Black, White, Black... The head lights and darkness and being upside down...

Sometime when it was light out I remember thinking... I HAVE to save my DAD AND BROTHER!!! I have to save them they are freezing to death.. I was wandering around the highway and I walked to this truck that was pulled over and I remember telling him I had to help my dad and brother.. but I don't remember anything about the person in the truck.. almost as if I was watching myself from behind.. looking over my shoulder in third person.

I started walking back to the car and their was all this stuff from inside the car strewn along the highway.. all my belongings and Class A Uniform.. and I got to the car and where I was riding was completely caved in.. So my Dad and brother were gone... and its just like this highway and me and this big empty field and nothing but the sky and the grass.. and the highway...

and somewhere in there I came into a greater semblance of cognizance and there was an ambulance but it was like probably 8am at least now because the sun was hot.. and I told the paramedics.. thank God my Dad and brother are dying..

then they strapped me into the stretcher and it was propped up against the ambulance, but standing straight up.. it was not on wheels.. I was imobile on this straight backboard propped up against the ambulance and I remember thinking the EMT was pretty..

My Dad came up and said... "Son here are your military papers you joined the army.."

and I said... NO! I would never have done that..


I got my memories back after going to the hospital and getting a cat scan.. but I never could account for all the time that was lost... and my dad and bro wont really ever talk about the incident...

after leaving the hospital we rented a car and went back to collect stuff off the highway from where we rolled... wayyyy out in the field in some tx town off the highway.. Where 3 crosses and a monument to something.. like it was a highway attraction kind of thing you would pull over for..it wasn't a memorial it was meant to be seen by people driving on the highway... to remember God or the cross or whatever.. alot of places along highway routes in the US will have that kind of stuff... but this was right where we rolled..

a month before something crazy happened to me in a graveyard.. long story but also lost time in that story
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 Quoting: TheWorldsEnemy


I suffered a post partum haemorrhage 14 years ago giving birth to my stillborn daughter at home. I lost 6 pints of blood and lost consciousness. I was panicking inside and thinking OMG I've stopped breathing. I heard the most beautiful woman's voice. She said "ssh it's okay you don't need to anymore". I felt the most amazing sense of joy and peace I have ever felt. I was looking down at my husband on his knees by the side of the bath and my Mum was holding my sleeping daughter in her hands. I felt no longing towards any of them. Instead I felt like a ball of pure energy. I felt real freedom. I remember waking up after a three hour surgery. For months I felt like an anchor had been placed around my neck. I felt trapped in my body. From that day on I have never once feared death. Before that I was terrified. I have viewed my body as a mere container for my soul ever since.
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"I felt no longing towards any of them."


Possibly why you weren't allowed in.
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It’s not that.
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A few.

Without sounding pessimistic, I really don't even want to go through typing it all out as people generally skim right past my longer posts and then I feel like I've wasted my time and a bit down by it.
 Quoting: eyeDR3


Anything similar to whats detailed in this thread? i know its hard brother but what about footnotes or a synopsis, we know its hard to even explain it or do it justice in words.

Did you meet an entity? did it give you a message? can you remember what it told you?
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When I was 4 years old I was hit in the head with a hammer over my occipital lobe by an older child. I remember vomiting and going in and out of consciousness... But nothing else.

This year was certainly the closest I've ever come to death. In January I took some years old psilocybin mushrooms that were in a plastic baggie in my wallet. That same day I came down with Covid. My fever was hitting 104 and I may have had some seizures (don't even know).

I recall leaving this Earth and this time it wasn't like astral projection. It seemed I was at a literal plane of reality. There was a tapestry like quality to the separation and it resembled liquid mercury is the best way I could put it. It was like I was moving faster than the speed of light and my feet entered this other realm but yes, some entity told me a few things. It was not my time, I need to love myself and there's something I still haven't done in this realm.

But I've never felt more at peace. I believe I was one breath from death and somehow came back to. Still today I think about that and how peaceful and serene it really was and I do not want to wait until that time comes, but I will.

Apparently my job isn't finished here yet.

Just know it all stops; all the hate, the vitriol, the need, the pain... It is simply gone in death that I believe.

Now that I think about it water is the closest thing to what I witnessed. Like water is in itself life.
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I haven't and I've just about died on enough separate occasions that I basically consider them fucking bullshit because of this.

I can tell you what I did experience every last time as the lights were going dark so to speak though which you'll be interested in.

During every last one and quite a few occasions that weren't all that close but were powered by lots of often very counter intuitive mixtures of hard drugs, I distinctly recall my brain trying it's best to reassemble garbled and all fucked up sensory data into SOMETHING that resembled anything that could make some kind of sense!

I understand why people of religious persuasions and their subconscious minds get together with each other to lie to them and "build NDE false memories" from the badly mauled sensory data that can be halfway recovered which the harder you think about and try to reassemble into something coherent the more it will mutate change and alter itself into something that seems like a genuine memory but is nothing of the sort.

So here's the thing, because I wasn't predisposed to think they were anything one way or another, and didn't particularly want or need it to be anything to justify my own hopes and fears mine never really reassembled into anything I could write a book about and go on shitty christian and morning tv shows to talk about.

I get why this was impressive to people back in the day or even 30 years ago, but I'll be honest and just outright say that now the neurology, fmri machines, and etc are a thing....

I'm actually pretty pissed off and disgusted at doctors and science for not having the balls to stand up to religious whack jobs on this shit and tell them they're full of shit because "NDE's" aren't legitimate, are only evidence of how bad idiots are willing to lie to themselves and everyone else, and evidence that both science and religion are cowardly dishonest pieces of shit.

P.s. another reason they don't call bullshit on religion is because everyone but normies is incredibly aware of just how easy it is to insert malicious code into human brains that can be used for their own benefits.

And by not telling you that your brain meat has literally less than zero security against brain hacking, they take away pretty much the only known defenses against it away from you before you even know that's what they're doing to you.

And yes there's crossover between the two groups, they're both malicious as fuck, and you shouldn't trust either of them.
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I've been living a Christian life for 10 years.

In Jan. 2022 I had a UTI that I thought was not that bad.
It went sepsis on me and I had to go to the ER.

When I got there, I told them 'my whole body is heating up'
and asked them to take me right away. IT FELT SO HOT!!!

They said 'take a seat'. So I did, but never made it.
I had a seizer and a heart attack along with the sepsis.

They said in a report 'patient had to be revived' which
means I died.

I saw nothing. Everything went dark. It was "lights out"
and then I woke up with them peeling these things off
my chest that they use when they have to shock you.
Wrapped me up and said 'you're going for a ride'.
Got there, and came to in the ICU with my ex-wife
looking down at me.


NEVER.SAW.A.THING. The Bible says we sleep, I believe this
is the truth. I'm not sure what all these people see that
say they have these experiences. When I asked someone,
they believe that God gives each person what they
need to go on living, some see things, others don't need to.

It just depends on what your path is and what God wants
you to do...
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People don't always remember them. That really means nothing.
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I was 6. Doctors were baffled (even back then) I was in quarantine and gone for a week. Doctors told my parents I wouldn't make it. My temperature was too high for too long so they were waiting for me to die.
In my reality a nurse walked me into a room in a hospital. She settled me in the bottom bed and she left. There was a boy on the top bunk. We talked for awhile. It was very peaceful, he was very friendly. After awhile I asked him where I was and he said at a hospital. I asked how long will I be here he said until they decide where you are going. I looked over and there were two doors in the room. The door the nurse brought me in through and another but didn't know what it was.

After some time, the nurse came back and said "honey, come with me its time to go". I took her hand and we walked through the door on the right. After walking through the door I was immediately back in my body. It was cold, dark, wet and heavy. I was laying in a hospital bed in a room I had never seen. This nurse walks though the door and I looked at her and she screamed "doctor she's alive". This scared the crap out of me. I figured I was in a bad dream but I wasn't. I was back here. I spend the next several days trying at night to get out of my bed so I could go back to the room with that boy in it, but I was unable to walk for several days and they kept me locked up pretty good.

Fast forward several decades. The same boy came to me in a dream and told me about an accident that was going to happen and it did. Not sure who the boy was. I could say just in my head until he accurately predicted an exact day in the future that a boating accident would occur. I couldn't have known that. I saw him one more time but wasn't asleep. He came do me when my father died. Still not sure who he is. I asked him his name and he said it was David. I said, oh, I was hoping for something more mystical....lol
 Quoting: TruthSeeker0511


Wow.

Have you read "Proof of Heaven"? The neurosurgeon who had a week long NDE had a woman show up in his experience who later turned out to be his long lost sister (passed) separated by adoption.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


One of the most profound albums I've ever heard is "maybe tomorrow" by low roar. Wow what a powerful album!

The first song "David" is about his friend who died, but also the guardian of heaven.

"David my friend I just need to know... Is it time to... Pack things up, say goodbye, kiss the wife, one last time?"

Tracks in order

Part one

David
Sleep Peacefully
Fucked Up
Hummingbird
Fade Away
Burial Ground

Part two

Stay calm, Keep Quiet
Everything to lose
Captain
Bye Bye
Clareland
Everything to lose reprise


This was the album that guided my NDE in January. If you listen closely to the words it's quite profound how ridiculously well this matched up with my experience. Everything about it. Everything.

If you like Radiohead, go listen!


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Lots of people have them but don’t talk about them.

Johnny Cash had one. It was probably the inspiration for his song Highwayman

From wiki...

At a hospital visit in 1988, this time to watch over Waylon Jennings (who was recovering from a heart attack), Jennings suggested that Cash have himself checked into the hospital for his own heart condition. Doctors recommended preventive heart surgery, and Cash underwent double bypass surgery in the same hospital. Both recovered, although Cash refused to use any prescription painkillers, fearing a relapse into dependency. Cash later claimed that during his operation, he had what is called a "near-death experience".
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I coded and it took them a little while to bring me back with the paddles. Nothing happen not a damn thing!!! I wouldnt even known if they hadnt told me .
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NPC's won't experience a thing on Death, this is why some people have them and some don't. Don't feel bad but this 8th Dimensional Projection into the 3rd physical Dimension via Quasi Chrystal is for those who chose the simulation freely.

Think of it like a sandbox to play in with some of the kiddies around you being characters to fill the box with what seems like real free willed, free thinking beings like yourself but they are just bots playing along with a set instructions to follow.

Bots don't get to experience the "Outside" of the simulation once they have run their course. Our individual experiences in here are part of a collective memory that go back to the source....saved if you will.
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When I was 4 years old I was hit in the head with a hammer over my occipital lobe by an older child. I remember vomiting and going in and out of consciousness... But nothing else.

This year was certainly the closest I've ever come to death. In January I took some years old psilocybin mushrooms that were in a plastic baggie in my wallet. That same day I came down with Covid. My fever was hitting 104 and I may have had some seizures (don't even know).

I recall leaving this Earth and this time it wasn't like astral projection. It seemed I was at a literal plane of reality. There was a tapestry like quality to the separation and it resembled liquid mercury is the best way I could put it. It was like I was moving faster than the speed of light and my feet entered this other realm but yes, some entity told me a few things. It was not my time, I need to love myself and there's something I still haven't done in this realm.

But I've never felt more at peace. I believe I was one breath from death and somehow came back to. Still today I think about that and how peaceful and serene it really was and I do not want to wait until that time comes, but I will.

Apparently my job isn't finished here yet.

Just know it all stops; all the hate, the vitriol, the need, the pain... It is simply gone in death that I believe.

Now that I think about it water is the closest thing to what I witnessed. Like water is in itself life.
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Thank you for sharing your story brother. hf
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When I woke up I was so upset. I wanted to go back to where I was, but I couldn’t.
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I haven't and I've just about died on enough separate occasions that I basically consider them fucking bullshit because of this.

I can tell you what I did experience every last time as the lights were going dark so to speak though which you'll be interested in.

During every last one and quite a few occasions that weren't all that close but were powered by lots of often very counter intuitive mixtures of hard drugs, I distinctly recall my brain trying it's best to reassemble garbled and all fucked up sensory data into SOMETHING that resembled anything that could make some kind of sense!

I understand why people of religious persuasions and their subconscious minds get together with each other to lie to them and "build NDE false memories" from the badly mauled sensory data that can be halfway recovered which the harder you think about and try to reassemble into something coherent the more it will mutate change and alter itself into something that seems like a genuine memory but is nothing of the sort.

So here's the thing, because I wasn't predisposed to think they were anything one way or another, and didn't particularly want or need it to be anything to justify my own hopes and fears mine never really reassembled into anything I could write a book about and go on shitty christian and morning tv shows to talk about.

I get why this was impressive to people back in the day or even 30 years ago, but I'll be honest and just outright say that now the neurology, fmri machines, and etc are a thing....

I'm actually pretty pissed off and disgusted at doctors and science for not having the balls to stand up to religious whack jobs on this shit and tell them they're full of shit because "NDE's" aren't legitimate, are only evidence of how bad idiots are willing to lie to themselves and everyone else, and evidence that both science and religion are cowardly dishonest pieces of shit.

P.s. another reason they don't call bullshit on religion is because everyone but normies is incredibly aware of just how easy it is to insert malicious code into human brains that can be used for their own benefits.

And by not telling you that your brain meat has literally less than zero security against brain hacking, they take away pretty much the only known defenses against it away from you before you even know that's what they're doing to you.

And yes there's crossover between the two groups, they're both malicious as fuck, and you shouldn't trust either of them.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


Heres the thing brother, im not religious, never have been, i didnt meet the biblical god, i dont believe in it, but there is definitely something on the other side, maybe it was just a rush of endogenous DMT as my fever spiked to 104.7f and i was tripping balls harder than ive ever tripped before, but ive done psychedelics before, ive had bad trips, it wasnt that, it was different, i wasnt here, i was somewhere else, it was like a cleansing and a judgement and a rebirth all at the same time.

God for me now is a blanket term for the good forces of the universe.

My experience is nothing to do with the bible or the god of the bible, even though perhaps my experience could be described as biblical, The catholic church, almost all churches, islam, etc can all fuck off, like obi wan said, "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious" there is great evil in the big religions, they have been co opted, just look at the vatican, its all the proof you need.

Just trust yourself, trust your heart and be good to others, but most importantly be good to yourself. Righteous anger is good if its directed at protecting the innocent from evil, but dont be misguided about it. You will judge your own actions in this life, count on it, Ive seen it. Perhaps consider the idea that there is spiritual allegory in the great myths and religious texts of history and that not taking them literal or reading between the lines is the way to process it. If people take comfort and humility in the greetings of god bless, who are you or i to deny them that.

I hope you find peace.
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My cousin was shooting at steel targets . After few min His 4 yo old son said dddy my stomach hurts bad. Richochet got him in the belly. Ran him to the hospital fixed him. When he came to they said they were so worried about him. He said , nah Jesus cam and told me I was going to be ok.I wasn’t worried.
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Yes.

I did not go through any tunnel.

I did not meet any spirit guide.

My soul left my body, it shot at light speed into the cosmos.

I intuitively knew where I was heading, out of this solar system, far beyond, I wasn’t ready, I knew instinctively I wasn’t ready I didn’t want to leave it wasn’t my time.

I communed with the creator, on that soul level you cannot give words too, asked to be allowed back to earth.

I was thrust even faster back down into my body, like being pushed aggressively back.

No white light, no hell, def a higher power God being, but way up into space, I’m from somewhere else.
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I had a dream that was exactly like this!
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Lots of people have them but don’t talk about them.

Johnny Cash had one. It was probably the inspiration for his song Highwayman

From wiki...

At a hospital visit in 1988, this time to watch over Waylon Jennings (who was recovering from a heart attack), Jennings suggested that Cash have himself checked into the hospital for his own heart condition. Doctors recommended preventive heart surgery, and Cash underwent double bypass surgery in the same hospital. Both recovered, although Cash refused to use any prescription painkillers, fearing a relapse into dependency. Cash later claimed that during his operation, he had what is called a "near-death experience".
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Ive always liked Johnny Cash, seemed like a dark soul with a troubled heart, who choose to love.

I can relate. I think darkness exists in all of us, Johnny just wore it on his sleeve.
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Yes....when I did machining for the Lockheed Martin Corporation....I worked on the early versions of the U-2


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Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill

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There is definitely something on the other side and I no longer fear death but I don't seek it out either.
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It absolutely 100% felt real, more real than real.
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Not a NDE but I was born dead. I was premature and cord was wrapped around my neck with no heartbeat or breathing- and completely purple and cold. I'm told they worked on me for a long time to get my heart started and get me breathing. I also had no eyebrows, eye lashes, fingernails or toenails (I do now) and have two different color eyes. I have also had spirits follow me around my entire life- good and bad.
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I have a similar story as yours. I was born 3 months premature. I only weighed 1 lb. and was only 8 inches long. I was one of the first babies to survive being born so early (I'm written about in medical journals.) I had no eyelashes, fingernails or toenails. Two different eye colors run in my family. My grandpa had one very green eye and one very blue eye (my eyes are very green.) I have also had paranormal experiences my entire life.

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When I was 4 years old I was hit in the head with a hammer over my occipital lobe by an older child. I remember vomiting and going in and out of consciousness... But nothing else.

This year was certainly the closest I've ever come to death. In January I took some years old psilocybin mushrooms that were in a plastic baggie in my wallet. That same day I came down with Covid. My fever was hitting 104 and I may have had some seizures (don't even know).

I recall leaving this Earth and this time it wasn't like astral projection. It seemed I was at a literal plane of reality. There was a tapestry like quality to the separation and it resembled liquid mercury is the best way I could put it. It was like I was moving faster than the speed of light and my feet entered this other realm but yes, some entity told me a few things. It was not my time, I need to love myself and there's something I still haven't done in this realm.

But I've never felt more at peace. I believe I was one breath from death and somehow came back to. Still today I think about that and how peaceful and serene it really was and I do not want to wait until that time comes, but I will.

Apparently my job isn't finished here yet.

Just know it all stops; all the hate, the vitriol, the need, the pain... It is simply gone in death that I believe.

Now that I think about it water is the closest thing to what I witnessed. Like water is in itself life.
 Quoting: eyeDR3


Thank you for sharing your story brother. hf
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You are very welcome.

Consider being under water or in the sea. It can be terrifying but there is also serenity in it's simplicity and the infinite possibilities it can provide.

That crossing over point, the "tapestry" I describe, most closely resembles the edge between joining waters (like in a cave and the different temperature and other factors divide the waters) or oil and water.

I think our energy and being can be attributed almost solely to water.

I believe in God and Christ. What I experienced maybe was a crossing into the heaven described in the Bible. It made me think of baptism and the significance...
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Hahahahaha

drowned

saw a beautiful white light filled with stars moving all around

felt totally calm and peaceful

never felt that kind of blissfulness or happiness before or since

didn't even know I was on deaths door

was like being bathed in love and light

then my surfing buddy yanked me up to the surface and it was like waking up

took me a second to even remember where I was and what I was doing

it was weird but have no fear of death since that day

live long and prosper

Hahahahaha
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Yes.

I did not go through any tunnel.

I did not meet any spirit guide.

My soul left my body, it shot at light speed into the cosmos.

I intuitively knew where I was heading, out of this solar system, far beyond, I wasn’t ready, I knew instinctively I wasn’t ready I didn’t want to leave it wasn’t my time.

I communed with the creator, on that soul level you cannot give words too, asked to be allowed back to earth.

I was thrust even faster back down into my body, like being pushed aggressively back.

No white light, no hell, def a higher power God being, but way up into space, I’m from somewhere else.
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I had a dream that was exactly like this!
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Yes

Beautiful

I've visited the "horse nebula" in spirit.

I wonder why earth is in such an empty part of space it's kinda weird really...

So many places in the universe that you could look into the night sky and see clouds of colorful light.
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3 years old, rode a Jet Ski 1/2 mile out to sea. Not wave runners, the kind where you have to stand. Oh I think you really meant an OBE. This was not an OBE it was a NDE.
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I did, I saw a beautiful white translucent light and a gold angel with wings was just a light and then I was so scared to go felt myself leaving my body and then I came back and everything started vibrating and I heard the most beautiful music in my head and ears was so loud and beautiful. In a language I can’t explain nothing like I ever heard before. It Was crazy.
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I believe in God and Christ.
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I dont know what i believe, maybe god believes in me?, but what i do know is we are here for something, and i feel like sides are being drawn. A ton of us can feel the evil in the world brewing up in our guts, and we know something isnt right and its accelerating.

I choose light, i choose love.
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Beautiful what you wrote I feel the same way like we’re running out of time and to enjoy everything. Choose love and don’t let the little things or anyone get you down not worth it.
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I've had several and don't recommend them
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If you're all right with Jesus you have nothing to worry about
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what happened
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I haven't and I've just about died on enough separate occasions that I basically consider them fucking bullshit because of this.

I can tell you what I did experience every last time as the lights were going dark so to speak though which you'll be interested in.

During every last one and quite a few occasions that weren't all that close but were powered by lots of often very counter intuitive mixtures of hard drugs, I distinctly recall my brain trying it's best to reassemble garbled and all fucked up sensory data into SOMETHING that resembled anything that could make some kind of sense!

I understand why people of religious persuasions and their subconscious minds get together with each other to lie to them and "build NDE false memories" from the badly mauled sensory data that can be halfway recovered which the harder you think about and try to reassemble into something coherent the more it will mutate change and alter itself into something that seems like a genuine memory but is nothing of the sort.

So here's the thing, because I wasn't predisposed to think they were anything one way or another, and didn't particularly want or need it to be anything to justify my own hopes and fears mine never really reassembled into anything I could write a book about and go on shitty christian and morning tv shows to talk about.

I get why this was impressive to people back in the day or even 30 years ago, but I'll be honest and just outright say that now the neurology, fmri machines, and etc are a thing....

I'm actually pretty pissed off and disgusted at doctors and science for not having the balls to stand up to religious whack jobs on this shit and tell them they're full of shit because "NDE's" aren't legitimate, are only evidence of how bad idiots are willing to lie to themselves and everyone else, and evidence that both science and religion are cowardly dishonest pieces of shit.

P.s. another reason they don't call bullshit on religion is because everyone but normies is incredibly aware of just how easy it is to insert malicious code into human brains that can be used for their own benefits.

And by not telling you that your brain meat has literally less than zero security against brain hacking, they take away pretty much the only known defenses against it away from you before you even know that's what they're doing to you.

And yes there's crossover between the two groups, they're both malicious as fuck, and you shouldn't trust either of them.
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Heres the thing brother, im not religious, never have been, i didnt meet the biblical god, i dont believe in it, but there is definitely something on the other side, maybe it was just a rush of endogenous DMT as my fever spiked to 104.7f and i was tripping balls harder than ive ever tripped before, but ive done psychedelics before, ive had bad trips, it wasnt that, it was different, i wasnt here, i was somewhere else, it was like a cleansing and a judgement and a rebirth all at the same time.

God for me now is a blanket term for the good forces of the universe.

My experience is nothing to do with the bible or the god of the bible, even though perhaps my experience could be described as biblical, The catholic church, almost all churches, islam, etc can all fuck off, like obi wan said, "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious" there is great evil in the big religions, they have been co opted, just look at the vatican, its all the proof you need.

Just trust yourself, trust your heart and be good to others, but most importantly be good to yourself. Righteous anger is good if its directed at protecting the innocent from evil, but dont be misguided about it. You will judge your own actions in this life, count on it, Ive seen it. Perhaps consider the idea that there is spiritual allegory in the great myths and religious texts of history and that not taking them literal or reading between the lines is the way to process it. If people take comfort and humility in the greetings of god bless, who are you or i to deny them that.

I hope you find peace.
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This is an extremely wise post.

I feel your words man. That's so similar to what happened to me in January.

God I feel is real and is connected to life directly. Like what animates us, that to me is proof alone of creation. Like we are a work of art to something far greater than us.

This doesn't at all refute simulation theory either.

Imagine you create a real, functional, sentient artificial intelligence within the confines of computers. Then you create a video game with every character having a uniquely affected consciousness and personality.

There would be literally no way for them to know! You watch them through your screen and they go about in their business and wonder, but you never intervene. Those that "see" you maybe caught a glimpse through a connected camera somehow or something similar.

But it all also begins at the human perspective. We know nothing else therefore we truly cannot fathom what that dimension of reality even is. I cannot say "looks like" or "sounds like" because those are human limitations.

It's very difficult to explain but what I'm saying is there's some hyper dimensionality to reality for sure. These "dreams" and "experiences" aren't just "chemical reactions." That seems naive and foolish to me. As if all of life is as meaningless as a chemical reaction? If we are like machines or something of the like, certain fuel can unlock parts of our abilities.

Oh, what the ancients knew!

They probably almost figured out the source code to reality! Lol! Ooops!
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I didn't have an NDE personally, but had several events since infancy that ensure no fear of crossing over.

The first was simply remembering my infancy and life, now its mainly highlights, since under a month old, and other events. Then remembering as a toddler taking the womb, what it was like out of the body and then in my mother's tight rosy colored drum. Then preschool meeting my higher self when outside very upset at witnessing napalmed children in Vietnam on the news when they used to cover things more fully. After trying to do math, my dad was a science grade 7 teacher actually, and was trying to picture in a line, back to back, if everyone lived to 100, how many people curved back to the crawling out of the jungle stage my father believed occurred just over 6000 years ago, which he's wrong but, he's very programmed.

Then I just said, well maybe its 100 lives, and then said, so what, do little kids have to change the world because big people still haven't got it at all!

And she stepped out of me, was me, was an adult form of me and I had this near worship of adults, loved my relatives, parents, grandparents, great uncles and aunts, thought the world of them. I knew this was something from within me, that only I could see, she was all grown up, and adult. shocked me.

And she said, I chose to come. And also knew that I had passed the basic levels of tests, knew there shouldn't be homeless or inequality, that we cared deeply for everyone's feelings and pain and were only agents of healing and love and support and engifting everyone we knew.

But there were other things.
The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist.
The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist.
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It absolutely 100% felt real, more real than real.
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This

What you're describing is the lifting of the limitations of the body.

Things aren't able to really be described in simple human terms.

There's no "refresh rate" or delay in "sight" which becomes more than that, like incarnate thought rather than physical. Sound I can't even think about but it was there if that makes sense. Colors you cannot describe or show in the visible spectrum. But zero physicality other than bliss. Comfort. Warmth? No, but something better...


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