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WOrld on Fire Redux

 
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Good luck with the trolls. They are relentless on my Ukraine update threads if I open it up to ACs. Maybe it is justme. :)

It is a shame, because some of the best content comes from the ACs, but a few professional trolls ruin it.

Regarding Chinese troops in Ukraine, that same video has been making the rounds. It is video of the Vostok22 Military joint exercises that concluded about 10 days ago in far Eastern Russia.

If China was really entering into the Ukraine, they would come with a lot more than 6 tarp covered trucks and a fuel truck.

And it would be on hundreds of videos, and thousands of armored vehicles and missile launchers would be driving thousands of miles to get there. Pretty sure that would end up on social media.

I am sure CHina would like to get their war machine some live fire experience and some real world feedback. Putin is just being cautious, trying to keep this conflict from turning into WWIII.

Best of Luck.
 Quoting: JustmeTX


IMHO, no way China gets involved in Ukraine. They've got their hands full with taking over Africa and preparing to invade Taiwan.

damned
 Quoting: thinking...


Their military needs to be tested and given some experience before they even think about taking Taiwan with the US pledged to defend.

I don't think they will try anything unless they can participate in a live conflict first. AN untested army is like buying a gun and never taking it to the range and firing it. It cannot be relied upon as it is an unknown quantity.

China has already made the offer to Russia to send troops etc, but no evidence that this is happening. Again, Putin is being VERY restrained in all of his actions in Ukraine.

Not sure all the reasons, but I think there are 2 main ones:
1) he does not want to kill or harm the Ukraine civilians, just their NAZI army. and
2) trying to prevent WWIII which involving CHina would likely instigate. NATO and the US would jump in with all 4 feet at that point. Russia will lose that battle, and switch to nukes to survive, and all hell will be unleashed.

Not the good kind of hell. The bad kind. :)
 Quoting: JustmeTX


Thanks for those Mearshimer vids. I disagree with what he said in the first one - US needs to defend Taiwan - because the costs are way too high for the US to go war against China, and that's what it would be. I agree with everything he said in the second video.

Where did you read that China offered to send troops to Ukraine?! I've not seen anything like that and their position has been 1. opposing the invasion and, 2. blaming the US and, 3. calling for a peaceful resolution.
 Quoting: thinking...


Good question, I will have to search my memory a bit and find the story.
It was fairly recent. A bit before the time Putin attended the Shanghai summit of nations, whatever it is called (Shanghai Cooperation Organization, SCO).
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Maybe it was the Xi birthday call?

[link to www.cnn.com (secure)]

During the SCO summit, Xi actaully was pressing Putin to end the war. Putin gave it as much lip service as he could manage.

Maybe I dreamed it. LOL.

Here Bloomberg says while they have pledged a mutual cooperation "without limits", they do not believe China will provide military aid to Russia.

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]

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Off to me cot there now is I as as me princling sum of nothingness mean but nothing on this space O'time of our world shenanigans

Oh mwell as I wish anight to all on here.

Anight agus Dia is Mhuire libh.

My blessings be (I hope be on all pf that parish of our world).
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Off to me cot there now is I as as me princling sum of nothingness mean but nothing on this space O'time of our world shenanigans

Oh mwell as I wish anight to all on here.

Anight agus Dia is Mhuire libh.

My blessings be (I hope be on all pf that parish of our world).
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My apologies to all for me mistake on here as I have but one good eye.
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Off to me cot there now is I as as me princling sum of nothingness mean but nothing on this space O'time of our world shenanigans

Oh mwell as I wish anight to all on here.

Anight agus Dia is Mhuire libh.

My blessings be (I hope be on all pf that parish of our world).
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Have a good evening, bard of Avon. :)
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Just a heads up. I'm reporting your post as this thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with your social agenda and you're trolling.
 Quoting: thinking...


Report away, your welcome for the +2 for reporting an abusive post in the karma GAME.

I'm not trolling.

I made one post and said my peace.

Needed to be said now bugger off.

By the way, if this thread doesn't have anything to do with the WOF thread then why the fuck is this one called WOF redux?

I'll tell you since you seem to be missing something, it's a redux because the OP of the original thread got his own thread that tons of people loved NUKED bc he was an asshole.


So, yeah, what I'm saying is relevant.

There, report that, have another +2

By the way, if you think this really is an abusive post, then God help you when the shit hits the fan.
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Klingzod made his bed.
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Beware those who create fake drama. The other thread is gone and this one is here so there is no need to go on and on about the previous OP - who was practically never on the thread, anyway.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Off to me cot there now is I as as me princling sum of nothingness mean but nothing on this space O'time of our world shenanigans

Oh mwell as I wish anight to all on here.

Anight agus Dia is Mhuire libh.

My blessings be (I hope be on all pf that parish of our world).
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Have a good evening, bard of Avon. :)
 Quoting: JustmeTX


There yah go there now TX as there is a bridge i me parish older than yer country.


Just what does mean one may ask in our world of time me wonder as me Christ were crucified ere me parish were born.

Wish ye well there now TX as you assume most important thread which has ever been on this place.


Wish ye well and you would have a wish the Raven, that DR, that C4T would be less inhibited with self importance.

Wish ye well. hf
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Off to me cot there now is I as as me princling sum of nothingness mean but nothing on this space O'time of our world shenanigans

Oh mwell as I wish anight to all on here.

Anight agus Dia is Mhuire libh.

My blessings be (I hope be on all pf that parish of our world).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81709404


Have a good evening, bard of Avon. :)
 Quoting: JustmeTX


There yah go there now TX as there is a bridge i me parish older than yer country.


Just what does mean one may ask in our world of time me wonder as me Christ were crucified ere me parish were born.

Wish ye well there now TX as you assume most important thread which has ever been on this place.


Wish ye well and you would have a wish the Raven, that DR, that C4T would be less inhibited with self importance.

Wish ye well. hf
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Dare I correct mesel as I wonder of old Connor Mac Nessa as he wonder of his old druid Kaivee as to why our world turned black on that friday.

Dear old Queen Maibhe passed throug my village of course way past then as olden queen laid champion of Ae to defend ford of old Ae.
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Well just there yah go and niw here we be as Deirdre mean daughter of darknerss as Ethine mean sweet kernal of a nut.

No wonder as lying denglish spake hate our world.
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The United States may provide “NATO compatible” tanks to the Ukrainian military to replace aging Soviet-era gear, a senior Pentagon official has said, as Kiev continues to urge for a steady stream of Western arms amid fierce fighting with Russian troops.
END QUOTE
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This is the way the world ends… not with a bang… but with a physics lesson: the lonesome sound of Schroedinger’s cat’s meow.
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I'm going to remove posts that are 'biblical'. Try not to respond to them please. Those posters can start a 'Biblical meaning about the SMO' thread of their own.
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Would someone please ask the Kurds what we’ve promised them?
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USA started this crap with Kosovo.

But obviously....Nobody else is allowed to do it. Only the Americans have a right to break countries as they please.
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In a highly unusual move, after about two hours of waiting for Russian President Vladimir Putin to give a highly anticipated speech, Kremlin sources have said it has been postponed until tomorrow. Curiously, Russia's Channel One and RT within the last minutes have even removed the speech announcement. "Go to sleep," RT editor Margarita Simonyan wrote on TG.
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How much more of their own noses can they cut off to spite their faces?

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In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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To be honest, I know squat all about the battle. I see the larger global implications but the day to day wins and loses for both sides 'meh' above my non paygrade. SO carry on. I can't ban AC's because that would ban them in total from other threads. And I have no personal bans. So, for the great posters there...carry on, or better yet, start another.
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What are you talking about?
 Quoting: Blizzard Lizzard


Specifically, the war in Ukraine and the broader international conflict going on.
 Quoting: thinking...


Like the original 2014 thread, losing the WOF thread is a huge blow to future historical research. It was a blow by blow description of events as they happened, and relatively troll-free, thanks to some big efforts.
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What are you talking about?
 Quoting: Blizzard Lizzard


Specifically, the war in Ukraine and the broader international conflict going on.
 Quoting: thinking...


Like the original 2014 thread, losing the WOF thread is a huge blow to future historical research. It was a blow by blow description of events as they happened, and relatively troll-free, thanks to some big efforts.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


hesrightbump
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He is but we can't do anything about it and if an issue keeps being made about it, vindictive action will likely be taken against this thread.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Not sure of the veracity of this?

'Russia moves to formally annex swathes of Ukraine'...
This is the way the world ends… not with a bang… but with a physics lesson: the lonesome sound of Schroedinger’s cat’s meow.
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The United States may provide “NATO compatible” tanks to the Ukrainian military to replace aging Soviet-era gear, a senior Pentagon official has said, as Kiev continues to urge for a steady stream of Western arms amid fierce fighting with Russian troops.
END QUOTE
[link to fromthetrenchesworldreport.com (secure)]
 Quoting: St Tidbits the Odd


I hear about Leopard 1 and such deliveries from old NATO stock. Nothing too modern, but heavy armor nonetheless.
If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes.
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I'm going to remove posts that are 'biblical'. Try not to respond to them please. Those posters can start a 'Biblical meaning about the SMO' thread of their own.
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thank you. it only slows down the natural flow of the news to weed through religious doctrines and opinions. This is a critical time and having a thread that reports the news as it comes in is essential.

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Not sure of the veracity of this?

'Russia moves to formally annex swathes of Ukraine'...
 Quoting: St Tidbits the Odd


MSM spin for they're going to hold referendums.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Not sure of the veracity of this?

'Russia moves to formally annex swathes of Ukraine'...
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Who and what is that an emulation of?
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Not sure of the veracity of this?

'Russia moves to formally annex swathes of Ukraine'...
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Who and what is that an emulation of?
 Quoting: .Salt.


This should all be sounding very familiar to even the most casual student of 'history'.
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Rioting muzzles attacking Hindus in Central England tonight. Now spreading to other cities as authorities refuse to declare a riot against the Muzz.



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[link to www.rt.com (secure)]

hes on
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Cheers
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hes saying the west is seeking the piecing apart and destruction of Russia... that doesnt sound good. and the west did a coupe in Ukraine..
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"Partial mobilization of those who already have military training"?
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A War economy. Ie, the Russians are at war.
Hmmm...can't wait for a transcript.
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"Partial mobilization of those who already have military training"?
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ya, it seems reserves, prior service people, and.... any others Im missing?

Also military industries to have their capacity boosted in some capacity I think he said.

sorry typing as listening hard haha
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just finished, well, I guess now we wait and see. Draft starting today for those with military experience

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