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World Really on Fire

 
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I figured this belongs here. All credit and apologies to Oldcatfish and his thread.

Thread: US M777 howitzers massacre at least 13 civilians in Donetsk


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Nationals of Russia or Belarus living in Estonia who own firearms will be given a deadline to surrender them voluntarily, or have them seized by police as security threats, Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas said on Monday.

“In any case, we will send this draft law to the Riigikogu during the current government’s term. This has already been agreed upon, and a deadline has been set. We will definitely give time for people to voluntarily hand over their weapons, and after this deadline expires it will be the police’s turn,” she said, according to the outlet Postimees.

Last month, the government in Tallinn voted to stop issuing Schengen visas – documents needed to enter the European Union, of which Estonia is a member – to Russian nationals. That too was justified by Kallas as a “security threat.”

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So, this is a rather dark road they're going down. If an armed Russian resident is a security threat and a Russian tourist is a security threat that means all Russians are a security threat, inherently. If all Russians are a security threat, surely all Russians should be expelled, right? If they don't tell them to leave, the "security threat" remains, right? How to contain that threat? Concentration camps?

I had some interactions with a guy, online, whose mother was German and father was Russian. His mother's brother fought for the Germans (WWII). His father, as a young man, escaped to Estonia, from communist USSR, only to be caught and imprisoned by the Nazis in Estonia. Very complicated history in that part of the world and modern day Estonia is both anti Russian (because of the past and communism) and Nazi sympathetic.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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A number of pundits, for example, have questioned how it is that mass graves of torture victims came to be buried in what appears to be well-organized burial plots with large crosses marking the location of each grave. Did Russian forces commit horrific war crimes against civilians, only to then follow by giving the deceased a "proper burial" - each with large Orthodox style crosses or other religious markers erected in the ground?

The [blocked] did not see any evidence of that scale of death during a visit on Thursday. Hrigory [a 63-year-old civil engineer ,] denied knowledge of any war crimes.

“We didn’t interact with them, and they didn’t interact with us,” he said of the Russians. “From what I know, there wasn’t detentions, executions, torture.”

“There were a lot of young men who would say ‘we won’t shoot any bullets,’” he added.

Oleksandr Filchakov, the head of the Kharkiv prosecutor's office, said some showed signs of torture. Reporters at the scene did not see proof of that.



Those carefully and respectfully buried bodies are either locals murdered by Nazi battalions or their own conscript troops, who they are notorious for murdering when they try to withdraw because they haven't been properly equipped.
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Typical made-up Ukie EuromaidanPR//Democrat propagandist bullschit…

There is video from July 10 from RussiaOne (???) that was posted on the other thread describing how the Ukies were refusing to acknowledge or take possession of their military and civilian dead, and how the Russians buried them with Orthodox ceremony, Instead of just dumping in a mass trench grave like Kiev is doing.
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Agreed. While I did not see the video you speak of, it's something that has happened before, over the past eight years. This tactic of making up "war crimes" is also typical of the west as happened with the Gulf war and the babies dumped out of incubators bullshit; chemical attacks by Assad in Syria and rapes by Gaddafi's forces in Libya.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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There are several videos in that thread. Which post #? I like Meirsheimer.
 Quoting: thinking...


At the end of the thread, my last post I believe has 2 short videos with Measheimer laying out some truth and predictions where this is all headed. the first is about 2 minutes long and the second one is 4 minutes.

2 minutes of sense



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4 more minutes, from the most educated person on the Ukraine/Russia/NATO situation.



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Good luck with the trolls. They are relentless on my Ukraine update threads if I open it up to ACs. Maybe it is justme. :)

It is a shame, because some of the best content comes from the ACs, but a few professional trolls ruin it.

Regarding Chinese troops in Ukraine, that same video has been making the rounds. It is video of the Vostok22 Military joint exercises that concluded about 10 days ago in far Eastern Russia.

If China was really entering into the Ukraine, they would come with a lot more than 6 tarp covered trucks and a fuel truck.

And it would be on hundreds of videos, and thousands of armored vehicles and missile launchers would be driving thousands of miles to get there. Pretty sure that would end up on social media.

I am sure CHina would like to get their war machine some live fire experience and some real world feedback. Putin is just being cautious, trying to keep this conflict from turning into WWIII.

Best of Luck.
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IMHO, no way China gets involved in Ukraine. They've got their hands full with taking over Africa and preparing to invade Taiwan.

damned
 Quoting: thinking...


Their military needs to be tested and given some experience before they even think about taking Taiwan with the US pledged to defend.

I don't think they will try anything unless they can participate in a live conflict first. AN untested army is like buying a gun and never taking it to the range and firing it. It cannot be relied upon as it is an unknown quantity.

China has already made the offer to Russia to send troops etc, but no evidence that this is happening. Again, Putin is being VERY restrained in all of his actions in Ukraine.

Not sure all the reasons, but I think there are 2 main ones:
1) he does not want to kill or harm the Ukraine civilians, just their NAZI army. and
2) trying to prevent WWIII which involving CHina would likely instigate. NATO and the US would jump in with all 4 feet at that point. Russia will lose that battle, and switch to nukes to survive, and all hell will be unleashed.

Not the good kind of hell. The bad kind. :)

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 Quoting: St Tidbits the Odd


There are several videos in that thread. Which post #? I like Meirsheimer.
 Quoting: thinking...


At the end of the thread, my last post I believe has 2 short videos with Measheimer laying out some truth and predictions where this is all headed. the first is about 2 minutes long and the second one is 4 minutes.

2 minutes of sense



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


4 more minutes, from the most educated person on the Ukraine/Russia/NATO situation.



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: JustmeTX

 Quoting: JustmeTX


While watching these videos, it dawned on me that Russia is just doing a Stand Your Ground operation. It's legal and a valid response to a deadly threat.
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RB is critical of the Russian military leadership over the Karkov "fu*kup".

He says Putin lied about the goals of the SMO at the SCO meeting.

Abandonment and trust issues.

"Me and Regis about the latest in Donetsk. After seeing thirteen of my compatriots murdered today, I cannot help but spit the hard truth. One of the hardest interviews I've ever done. Watch, think, SHARE.
This IS the truth. BIG thanks and respect for Regis helping me get the truth out there. SUBSCRIBE TO HIS CHAN!!! Watch the vid, think and share. The world you save might just be your own."


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Thank you. Posts like this make me glad the spirit of the last thread is still going
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You are aware that Russel Bently is a self-avowed communist, right?
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Well he's got the hammer and sickle displayed behind his right shoulder, hard to miss.
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Donetsk Counteroffensive | Kherson Amphibious Landing | Kharkiv [Ukraine War Map Analysis]
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Kherson Counteroffensive Update | Ukraine War Indepth Analysis Full Map [Ukraine War Map Analysis]
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Day 208 (19/9): Russia warns that "Crimea is an integral part of Russia"
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Kherson Offensive Update: Ukr forces regrouping for renewed offensive in Mykolaiv & Kryvyi Rih Front
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Ukrainian forces reaches Kreminna (NW of Severodonetsk); Night pincer assault on Lyman
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RYBAR: Fighting for Pisky and Donetsk Airport in September 2022
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Militer Rusia Luncurkan Bom Cangkang Pembakar di Donetsk
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You didn't have to nuke the thread.
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It sucks when so many innocent folks suffer.

I rarely post on any forum due to this very thing. After a while, I lose motivation to participate.

Same with others.

What ends up happening is that the whole internet becomes a cesspool of spammers and trolls.

All the intelligent folks simply find something else to do with their lives. Why waste the time getting involved?
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Choose better leaders.

That guy is no king and even using that word to identify himself is offensive.

Our ancestors fought long and hard to not have a king lording over them.

He's haughty and he was out of line.

People, especially anyone who would lead, need to understand their place in the larger world.

There are evil forces at work right now that can snuff out whatever they want without a moment's notice.

Do not draw the eye of Sauron to this place.
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Breaking News Video.
DPR, LPR, Kherson to hold referendums from 23. September to 27. September over joining the Russian Federation.

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I figured this belongs here. All credit and apologies to Oldcatfish and his thread.

Thread: US M777 howitzers massacre at least 13 civilians in Donetsk



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The barbaric shelling of Donetsk seems to have accelerated a referendum to become part of the RF

Interesting times ahead, in September
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 Quoting: St Tidbits the Odd


There are several videos in that thread. Which post #? I like Meirsheimer.
 Quoting: thinking...


At the end of the thread, my last post I believe has 2 short videos with Measheimer laying out some truth and predictions where this is all headed. the first is about 2 minutes long and the second one is 4 minutes.

2 minutes of sense



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


4 more minutes, from the most educated person on the Ukraine/Russia/NATO situation.



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: JustmeTX

 Quoting: JustmeTX


I believe Dr Mearsheimer is now on the Uke govt “kill list”
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Breaking News Video.
DPR, LPR, Kherson to hold referendums from 23. September to 27. September over joining the Russian Federation.


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Zaporozhye region, too
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Knowing… the New News Now!!!lmao
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Maybe it's a good thing that WOF got nuked.

That dude is super radicalized and itching for a fight that he can't win and would likely get a lot of people hurt or worse.

He becomes explosively angry when a woman interjects into 'his' conversation between 'men'.

He appears to want to see the world burn so that he can be king.

King of a heap of ashes he would be.

Full of so called principals about free speech, doesn't understand the nuance of the delicate situation surrounding certain themes such as freely expressing racism these days, while demanding that some other thread be deleted bc someone was talking shit about him.

Rules for thee but not for he.



Our world is not like it was 20 or even 10 years ago.

This site is too important to let a guy like that threaten it.
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Just a heads up. I'm reporting your post as this thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with your social agenda and you're trolling.
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Report away, your welcome for the +2 for reporting an abusive post in the karma GAME.

I'm not trolling.

I made one post and said my peace.

Needed to be said now bugger off.

By the way, if this thread doesn't have anything to do with the WOF thread then why the fuck is this one called WOF redux?

I'll tell you since you seem to be missing something, it's a redux because the OP of the original thread got his own thread that tons of people loved NUKED bc he was an asshole.


So, yeah, what I'm saying is relevant.

There, report that, have another +2

By the way, if you think this really is an abusive post, then God help you when the shit hits the fan.
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lmaoclappa
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Klingzod made his bed.
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Aiden Aslin and Shaun Pinner Have Been EXECUTED According To Russian News Source.
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Sep thread on this development
Thread: PUTIN will ADDRESS the NATION TONIGHT
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President Vladimir Putin may speak on Tuesday, September 20, regarding referendums in the territories of the LPR, DPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions.

There are reports that Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu will also be by Putin's side, leading some pundits to speculate we are about to see a possible formal declaration of war and "national mobilization" of Russian society.
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By the way, if this thread doesn't have anything to do with the WOF thread then why the fuck is this one called WOF redux?




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OP parasited the thread title in order to expand his communist anti american contact network.

This isn't the first time he's done this.

How many of you has he added to his contact list already?
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By the way, if this thread doesn't have anything to do with the WOF thread then why the fuck is this one called WOF redux?




 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82707467


OP parasited the thread title in order to expand his communist anti american contact network.

This isn't the first time he's done this.

How many of you has he added to his contact list already?
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You can't parasite something that does not exist!
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lol!!!

True, but you can ride coattails.

From one point of view it sucks that a thread that was important to so many got nixed.

From another, there are good reasons why it did.
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Ukraine War Map | Kherson Counter Offensive active in 3 directions | Ukraine Captures Bilohorivka
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Wagner entering Bakhmut city after Ukrainian forces horribly defeated
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Russian military analysts slam Operation Z errors
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