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The Russians have three choices.

1. Push a peace initiative.

2. Resist the current Ukrainian offensives with available resources, and continue the war of attrition.

3. Mobilize and start a major offensive.

Putin has already stated that Germany has crossed a red line. NATO equipment is on the border of Russia. Russia can easily deploy Brigade tactical groups, just as Ukraine has, that are self sufficient and move like gangbusters. Attacks from the north of Kharkow to isolate the city. Byelorussia might become involved, permitting attacks toward Kiev or Lvov. Direct attacks on the Ukrainian forces in Luhansk. I believe the blitz is coming.
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Ukraine. Military Summary And Analysis 20.09.2022
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Russian tank hitting Ukrainian BMP. kinda wild to have this kinda footage of two major European countries going at it
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“And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31
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“And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31
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Are these graves evidence of war crimes or mass deception?
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Great, Europe choosing to make it harder for their own Companies and citizens to thrive.

Idiots.
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From the Mobilization thread...

When Ukraine collapses they'll pretend the war never happened like with Afghanistan. Remember that one? Pepperidge Farms remembers but not the U.S. State Department. 20 years of "winning" in Afghanistan memory holed overnight. They seriously think Russia has lost it's entire military in Eastern Ukraine (Donbass is only 9,000 square miles) when Russia has the military strength to defend a territory of 7 million square miles.


Russian military drills at Vostok 2022 two weeks ago.


Russia has no army left yet countries like Japan incessantly whine about Russia's military buildup in the Far East and Europe is complaining that Russia militarizing the Arctic. How can these things simultaneously be true if Russia is so preoccupied with these tiny little oblasts in Ukraine? Most of the fighting taking place there is not done by Russian troops, but by separatist militias in any case.

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“And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31
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Zelensky apparently ordered al all-out offensive ( or offensives) and reportedly pulling deployments out of Kiev ( including territorial defense brigades)

Reportedly Massive Ukrainian Armed Forces reserves are arriving in Kharkov region by trains — heavy battles ongoing in Kupyansk ( why are the Russians allowing the trains to keep running?)

Source: ASB military channel
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Withdrawing Uke forces from defense of Kiev = good opportunity for another Russian feint. Esp with attacks on infrastructure.

Snowed already in the Transcarpathia….winter is coming to Kiev in weeks or months

Maybe now the citizens of Kiev will recognize they are in the war. Will the power and water stay on?

The weapons Kiev supposedly requesting from the West…are ridiculously mismatched to the war they are fighting

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Would someone please ask the Kurds what we’ve promised them?
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I guess the EU wants to damage the EU further because it’s not hurting Russia.
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Hmmmm


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Interesting analysis by Alexander Mercouris on the reasons for the Donbas vote and the effect it will have on Russia's strategy.
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In a highly unusual move, after about two hours of waiting for Russian President Vladimir Putin to give a highly anticipated speech, Kremlin sources have said it has been postponed until tomorrow. Curiously, Russia's Channel One and RT within the last minutes have even removed the speech announcement. "Go to sleep," RT editor Margarita Simonyan wrote on TG.
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“And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31
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I don’t care which side people are on… I watched the video of the recent military drills… and that is one of the last things that I would ever want to see coming at me.. in my country. It doesn’t matter who wins.. It is still going to be brutal and devastating. I just hope it is over soon and Peace happens. I personally don’t believe for a minute that Russia is losing. I believe they are laying a big old nasty trap for Ukraine and the Nazis.
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In a highly unusual move, after about two hours of waiting for Russian President Vladimir Putin to give a highly anticipated speech, Kremlin sources have said it has been postponed until tomorrow. Curiously, Russia's Channel One and RT within the last minutes have even removed the speech announcement. "Go to sleep," RT editor Margarita Simonyan wrote on TG.
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I feel like the ducks werent in a row if this got pushed back, timing seems important, so whats it about? If this was just "were having referendums" than timing wasnt important. When he did the first announcement cruise missiles started landing soon after. I feel like they are getting logistics in place for something or other and for whatever reason they werent perfect earlier.

If Im wrong Im wrong, but seems like a weird thing to do for just a referendum announcement
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In a highly unusual move, after about two hours of waiting for Russian President Vladimir Putin to give a highly anticipated speech, Kremlin sources have said it has been postponed until tomorrow. Curiously, Russia's Channel One and RT within the last minutes have even removed the speech announcement. "Go to sleep," RT editor Margarita Simonyan wrote on TG.
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I feel like the ducks werent in a row if this got pushed back, timing seems important, so whats it about? If this was just "were having referendums" than timing wasnt important. When he did the first announcement cruise missiles started landing soon after. I feel like they are getting logistics in place for something or other and for whatever reason they werent perfect earlier.

If Im wrong Im wrong, but seems like a weird thing to do for just a referendum announcement
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It seems like his war/special-op announcement in February was also delayed.

“And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31
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I don’t care which side people are on… I watched the video of the recent military drills… and that is one of the last things that I would ever want to see coming at me.. in my country. It doesn’t matter who wins.. It is still going to be brutal and devastating. I just hope it is over soon and Peace happens. I personally don’t believe for a minute that Russia is losing. I believe they are laying a big old nasty trap for Ukraine and the Nazis.
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I think there cannot be peace until one side is exhausted enough to stop.
I don’t see this yet on either side ( all of Europe and the US propping up Zelensky)
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Geopolitics Today | Vladimir Putin to address Russian Nation, Likely to Declare WAR on Ukraine
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Indeed indeed as I try to post to this cripple thread.
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Would someone please ask the Kurds what we’ve promised them?
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Just get up off your knee America as the enemy of America/our world has always been within.

Just get off the knee America.


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Good luck with the trolls. They are relentless on my Ukraine update threads if I open it up to ACs. Maybe it is justme. :)

It is a shame, because some of the best content comes from the ACs, but a few professional trolls ruin it.

Regarding Chinese troops in Ukraine, that same video has been making the rounds. It is video of the Vostok22 Military joint exercises that concluded about 10 days ago in far Eastern Russia.

If China was really entering into the Ukraine, they would come with a lot more than 6 tarp covered trucks and a fuel truck.

And it would be on hundreds of videos, and thousands of armored vehicles and missile launchers would be driving thousands of miles to get there. Pretty sure that would end up on social media.

I am sure CHina would like to get their war machine some live fire experience and some real world feedback. Putin is just being cautious, trying to keep this conflict from turning into WWIII.

Best of Luck.
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IMHO, no way China gets involved in Ukraine. They've got their hands full with taking over Africa and preparing to invade Taiwan.

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Their military needs to be tested and given some experience before they even think about taking Taiwan with the US pledged to defend.

I don't think they will try anything unless they can participate in a live conflict first. AN untested army is like buying a gun and never taking it to the range and firing it. It cannot be relied upon as it is an unknown quantity.

China has already made the offer to Russia to send troops etc, but no evidence that this is happening. Again, Putin is being VERY restrained in all of his actions in Ukraine.

Not sure all the reasons, but I think there are 2 main ones:
1) he does not want to kill or harm the Ukraine civilians, just their NAZI army. and
2) trying to prevent WWIII which involving CHina would likely instigate. NATO and the US would jump in with all 4 feet at that point. Russia will lose that battle, and switch to nukes to survive, and all hell will be unleashed.

Not the good kind of hell. The bad kind. :)
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Thanks for those Mearshimer vids. I disagree with what he said in the first one - US needs to defend Taiwan - because the costs are way too high for the US to go war against China, and that's what it would be. I agree with everything he said in the second video.

Where did you read that China offered to send troops to Ukraine?! I've not seen anything like that and their position has been 1. opposing the invasion and, 2. blaming the US and, 3. calling for a peaceful resolution.
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I'm going to remove posts that are 'biblical'. Try not to respond to them please. Those posters can start a 'Biblical meaning about the SMO' thread of their own.
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I'm going to remove posts that are 'biblical'. Try not to respond to them please. Those posters can start a 'Biblical meaning about the SMO' thread of their own.
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Thanks OP. I like the way this thread is going so far
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Good luck with the trolls. They are relentless on my Ukraine update threads if I open it up to ACs. Maybe it is justme. :)

It is a shame, because some of the best content comes from the ACs, but a few professional trolls ruin it.

Regarding Chinese troops in Ukraine, that same video has been making the rounds. It is video of the Vostok22 Military joint exercises that concluded about 10 days ago in far Eastern Russia.

If China was really entering into the Ukraine, they would come with a lot more than 6 tarp covered trucks and a fuel truck.

And it would be on hundreds of videos, and thousands of armored vehicles and missile launchers would be driving thousands of miles to get there. Pretty sure that would end up on social media.

I am sure CHina would like to get their war machine some live fire experience and some real world feedback. Putin is just being cautious, trying to keep this conflict from turning into WWIII.

Best of Luck.
 Quoting: JustmeTX


IMHO, no way China gets involved in Ukraine. They've got their hands full with taking over Africa and preparing to invade Taiwan.

damned
 Quoting: thinking...


Their military needs to be tested and given some experience before they even think about taking Taiwan with the US pledged to defend.

I don't think they will try anything unless they can participate in a live conflict first. AN untested army is like buying a gun and never taking it to the range and firing it. It cannot be relied upon as it is an unknown quantity.

China has already made the offer to Russia to send troops etc, but no evidence that this is happening. Again, Putin is being VERY restrained in all of his actions in Ukraine.

Not sure all the reasons, but I think there are 2 main ones:
1) he does not want to kill or harm the Ukraine civilians, just their NAZI army. and
2) trying to prevent WWIII which involving CHina would likely instigate. NATO and the US would jump in with all 4 feet at that point. Russia will lose that battle, and switch to nukes to survive, and all hell will be unleashed.

Not the good kind of hell. The bad kind. :)
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Thanks for those Mearshimer vids. I disagree with what he said in the first one - US needs to defend Taiwan - because the costs are way too high for the US to go war against China, and that's what it would be. I agree with everything he said in the second video.

Where did you read that China offered to send troops to Ukraine?! I've not seen anything like that and their position has been 1. opposing the invasion and, 2. blaming the US and, 3. calling for a peaceful resolution.
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Good question, I will have to search my memory a bit and find the story.
It was fairly recent. A bit before the time Putin attended the Shanghai summit of nations, whatever it is called (Shanghai Cooperation Organization, SCO).
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Maybe it was the Xi birthday call?

[link to www.cnn.com (secure)]

During the SCO summit, Xi actaully was pressing Putin to end the war. Putin gave it as much lip service as he could manage.

Maybe I dreamed it. LOL.

Here Bloomberg says while they have pledged a mutual cooperation "without limits", they do not believe China will provide military aid to Russia.

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]

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Off to me cot there now is I as as me princling sum of nothingness mean but nothing on this space O'time of our world shenanigans

Oh mwell as I wish anight to all on here.

Anight agus Dia is Mhuire libh.

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