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John 3:13 'No one has ascended'? - KJV Bible Study

 
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John 3:13 'No one has ascended'? - KJV Bible Study
Several translations say 'no one'.

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Yet the KJV says 'no man'.

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

The verse in the Greek from Strong's

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'no man' Strong's g3762...

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"The KJV translates Strong's G3762 in the following manner: no man (94x), nothing (68x), none (27x), no (24x), any man (3x), any (3x), man (2x), neither any man (2x), miscellaneous (13x)."

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Re: John 3:13 'No one has ascended'? - KJV Bible Study
You want to 'argue' that 'no one' is the correct understanding for John 3:13?

How do angels come and go?

They 'ascend' and 'descend'.


Matthew 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.


Judges 13:20 For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar,

that the angel of the LORD
ascended in the flame

of the altar.
And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground.


...

AND the Holy Ghost....

Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended

in a bodily shape like a dove upon him,

and a voice came from heaven, which said,

Thou art my beloved Son;

in thee I am well pleased.


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Re: John 3:13 'No one has ascended'? - KJV Bible Study
Father God ascended and descended on Mt. Sinai. NOT Jesus.

Exodus 19:18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD (Jehovah) descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.

Exodus 33:9 And it came to pass, as Moses entered into the tabernacle, the cloudy pillar descended, and stood at the door of the tabernacle, and the LORD (Jehovah) talked with Moses.

Exodus 34:5 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD. *(Jehovah)

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Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? <<< The Father

who hath gathered the wind in his fists?<<< The Father

who hath bound the waters in a garment?<<< The Father

who hath established all the ends of the earth?

what is his name,
<<< Jehovah The Father


and what is his son's name,
if thou canst tell?
<<< Jesus The SON of the Father

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Re: John 3:13 'No one has ascended'? - KJV Bible Study
The word "descended" occurs 19 times in 18 verses in the KJV.

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The word "ascended" occurs 19 times in 19 verses in the KJV.

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Re: John 3:13 'No one has ascended'? - KJV Bible Study
I was pulled up to the 3rd heaven in my spirit..
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No man ascended. However our spirits can ascend when we dream. The apostle John talked about being in the spirit when he had visions. Your physical body does. Ot ascend or descend, only your spirit does.
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No man ascended. However our spirits can ascend when we dream. The apostle John talked about being in the spirit when he had visions. Your physical body does. Ot ascend or descend, only your spirit does.
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Your physical body does not ascend or descend, only your spirit does.
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No man ascended. However our spirits can ascend when we dream. The apostle John talked about being in the spirit when he had visions. Your physical body does. Ot ascend or descend, only your spirit does.
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Your physical body does not ascend or descend, only your spirit does.
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I agree.

Yet the Resurrected Jesus did ascend to Heaven.

Trinitarians would have us believe that....

...'God Jesus is firstborn of the dead'.

God didn't die. God CANNOT die.

The Son of God died.
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