John 8:24 - 'Unless you believe I am the Son of God' - KJV Bible Stuey

Isaiah 66:23-24
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

John 5:18

Therefore the J___ sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

Did YESHUA break the Sabbath? No

The word translated as break, means to loosen, He annulled all the extra commands that were not specified in the Torah

Had he broke the Sabbath, He would have been a sinner

The same word translated broke is translated as loose when Lazarus was raised from the dead, YESHUA said Loose the grave clothes that he was in.

This is John's commentary, Why did they seek to kill Him, because He said that God was His Father, The Son of God

YESHUA referred to Himself as the Son of Man = 100% Man

YESHUA referred to Himself as the Son of God = 100% God

Who Being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Emphatic - Being, a present active participle, continuing in the form of God took upon flesh.

This answer is not for you, but for others that have not passed the point of no return as you have.

2 Kings 19:35
And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the Lord went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.

What if nobody gives a shit what your book says? All you people do is point to your book and say, "I believe this!" Then someone else points to your book and says, "Well, I believe that!" Who, the hell cares what you believe? Throw that damn book away and think for yourself, for God's sake. You took the green pill. You're lost in a comfortable delusion where everything you consider good comes from God, and everything you think is bad is due to Satan. You've tossed logic and reason out the window and retreated back to the Dark Ages...you know...that period right after Jesus left. A few hundred years later, the malignant growth called "the church" became a caricature of was Jesus himself had in mind.

1 Thessalonians 5:3
While people are saying, "Peace and security," destruction will come upon them suddenly, like labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

2 Thessalonians 2:8
And then shall be revealed the lawless one, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming;

Any son who follows his Dad's teachings could say a similar thing. 6 verses later...

Johnn 10:36 Say ye of him,
whom the Father hath sanctified,
and sent into the world,
Thou blasphemest;
because I said,
I am the Son of God?

18 verses say that you're ignorant of scripture.

18 verses show the Father raised Jesus from the dead.....

Acts 2

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and

by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.


Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.


Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.


Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.


Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.


Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;


Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

.....

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

.....

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

.....

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Corinthians 6:14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

1 Corinthians 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

.....

Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

....

Ephesians 1

17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

.....


Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

.....

1 Peter 1

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

.....

1 Peter 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

1. Here's the verse. The 'he' isn't in many manuscripts.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you,
that ye shall die in your sins: for
if ye believe not that I am (he),
ye shall die in your sins.

2. Jesus is ACTUALLY refering to John 3:16. It says to 'Believe in the only beggoten SON'.

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,

that whosoever believeth in him

should not perish, but have everlasting life.

3. The real 'connection' verse is John 8:28.

Jhn 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them,

When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye

know that I am he,

and that I do nothing of myself;
but as my Father hath taught me,
I speak these things.


4. 'I am he' = 'son of Man' = 'Son of God'

....

More 'connection' / 'witness' verses.

Show us the verse(s) that says Salvation depends
on Believeing that 'Jesus is God'.

You can't. They don't exist.

Instead, all these 13 verses say...

...'Believe in the SON OF God'.

1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.


Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ,
the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:...


John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Jesus is NOT "God Almighty" / 'I AM'.

Scriptural PROOF.

1. Revelation 21 John tells us exactly who "God Almighty" is.

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.

2. The LORD / God - tells Moses that His name is Jehovah...and that He is God Almighty.

Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham,
unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,

by the name of God Almighty,

but by my name JEHOVAH (YHVH)

was I not known to them.

3. The Father is the "I AM" - NOT Jesus.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM
THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt
thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM
hath sent me unto you.

Thread: Father God is the "I AM' / God Almighty / Jehovah in Exodus. Not Jesus. Bible Study Scriptural Proof.

1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

.....

1 Peter 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Paul taughy 'Christ crucified'? And the others didn't?

Peter - Acts 2

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and

by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

.....

ALL the Apostles taught 'Christ Resurrected'!


Where is there even a single verse that confirms that Jesus actually did it?

There isn't one - none exist.

Instead - 18 verses that show the Father raised Jesus from the dead.....

Acts 2

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and

by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.


Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.


Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.


Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.


Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.


Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;


Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

.....

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

.....

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

.....

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Corinthians 6:14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

1 Corinthians 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

.....

Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

....

Ephesians 1

17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

.....


Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

.....

1 Peter 1

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

.....

1 Peter 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Christ's 'deity' is as the SON OF God.

You believe - 'God Jesus is firstborn of the dead'.

-'God Jesus died on the cross'

.....

So... Father God SENT "God Jesus"? John 12:49-50

So... Father God is GREATER than God Jesus? John 14:28 & John 10:29

So... God Jesus does ONLY the Father God's Will? John 6:37-39

So....God Jesus PRAYS to Father God? Matthew 26:36-42, Mark 14:32-39 & John 17

So...God Jesus says ONLY what Father God has said? John 12:49-50

So...God Jesus learned / does as Father God has showed Him? John 5:19 & John 8:28

So...God Jesus gives THANKS to Father God? Luke 10:21 & John 11:41

So...God Jesus doesn't KNOW when God Jesus will return...ONLY Father God KNOWS? Matthew 24:36

So....od Jesus says to ask Father God "in MY name"? John 14:13

So...God Jesus goes to sit at Father God's right hand? Matthew 26:64 Mark 16:19

So...God Jesus ASCENDs to Father God, "MY GOD and YOUR GOD"? John 20:17

So... Father God has given God Jesus authority? Matthew 28:18

So... God Jesus says only Father God is good? Luke 18:19

Thread: Father God is Worshipped as Creator - Revelation 4:8-11 / Creation Bible Study

Who raised Jesus from the dead?

God did.

Acts 2

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and

by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.


Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.


Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.


Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.


Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.


Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;


Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

.....

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

.....

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

.....

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Corinthians 6:14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

1 Corinthians 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

.....

Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

....

Ephesians 1

17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

.....


Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

.....

1 Peter 1

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

I'm a proud one. I was able to escape the delusion.

"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe." -- Carl Sagan

Only because you Pauline / Chuck Missler disciples claim such.

From Strong's Concordance...

[link to www.blueletterbible.org (secure)]


'Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

-to be, to exist, to happen, to be present'

.....

Jesus HAS to use the phrase 'I am' to explain who He is and what His relationship is with the Father.

Prior to Peter's declaration in Matthew 16 - virtually NO one in history knew that Father God had a Son. Peter is the ONLY 'individual' that Jesus singles out as being 'Blessed'.

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,

Thou art the Christ,

the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,

Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:

for flesh and blood hath not revealed

it unto thee, but my Father

which is in heaven.

.....

Jesus isn't making a claim to the Father's early name of 'I AM'. No scripture supports that theory.

The disciples believed Jesus raised Himself from the dead.

Hebrews 1:8 shows even Father God calls the Son God. God is a family, even Romans 8 shows this.

John 1 also shows who the Logos/Word is. He created everything that was created. He also came to earth as Jesus.

OP claims these are embellishments lol.

Op is an embellishment.

John 1:1
Jesus is God.

Acts 4:12
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”

Hosea 13:4
Yet I have been the Lord your God
Since the land of Egypt;
And you were not to know any god except Me,
For there is no savior besides Me.

Jude 5
Now I desire to remind you (even though you have been fully informed of these facts once for all) that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe.

1 Cor 10:2-5
2They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

2 Samuel 22:1-3
My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge,
My savior, You save me from violence.

2 Peter 1:1
our God and Savior Jesus Christ

Titus 2:13
our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

Joel 2:32
And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved;

^ this name is not "jahoba", or "father god". It's actually Jesus.

Therefore Jesus is God because the Lord in Joel 2:32 is God.

LMAO

Then why did the shrews try to stone him?

John 10:31-33
31Again his Shrewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
33“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”