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Evolution was the first "Trust the Science" scam.

 
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We are not talking about rejecting science; we are concerned about the ongoing corruption of scientific knowledge by ideolgues for corporate gain and societal manipulation. As you display; evolution has become an ideological concept that people will stick to no matter the evidence to the contrary.

Evolution as espoused by the corporate led scientific establishment in our educational institutions and media networks IS NOT TENABLE. It’s not science anymore; its a philosophy; an ideology; a cult. And is used to perform all kinds of horrors and excuses by eliminating fundamental concepts that

a) there is no higher purpose or judgement to existence other than physical matter and

b) that all relationships are based on dominance and we can do as we wish to species less equipped than us

Evolution is essentially a socio-pathic ideology or at least has been used to excuse it. Imagine looking at your son/daughter and thinking; its just a conglomeration of genetic cells controlled by stimulant chemicals. Psychopathic.
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Excellent word salad of your conspiracy of all science that agrees with evolution theory. Now, rather rebut my shredding of your scientific conspiracy to disprove God, which evolution doesn't, you ramble on and on. Wrap your brain around this, if the bronze ago ignorant unknown authors got the story wrong....so what? Again. evolution wrong is not God right. If you have a better hypothesis for the diversity of life, not supernatural unproven claims, a nobel prize and fame and fortune and booster the faithful! But no, you can't and won't. Even worse you slander men and women who spend their lives trying to figure out how stuff happens besides a god did it. Your mind can't accept even the chance a tale in a book of many unproven tales might not be correct and you lie.
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Read this; scientists and corporations don’t care about you. God does.
The Theory of evolution is as dead as a dodo.

• Acquired physical traits are NOT passed down, only genes are passed down, to subsequent generations. Disproving Darwins notion that acquired traits accumulated over subsequent generations and generated different living species. There were no inheritable variations for natural selection to choose from. They re-wrote the theory to include Mutation.
• Mutation. Mutations do not add genetic information for species to ‘mutate’ into different kinds of species.
• The fossil record shows all forms of life, many of which currently exist, coming into existence almost simultaneously in the Cambrian Explosion, this is contrary evidence to a slow mutating naturally selective tree of transforming species.
Abiogenesis has not been seen to possible for 170 years and counting.
• Minimal Gene Set concept. Evolutionists needed a beginning from 0 gene but you cannot get down to below 397 gene sets to create a functional cell. That is the minimal gene set for a living cell.
• Dembski’s 1995 Complex Specified Information theorem (CSi) shows that it is impossible for the complex genome of biological cells to have been formed by horizontal causation and a vertical cauaslity Or intelligent design Or a structure to follow, would have to be integrated into the calculation for it ever to be realised in physical nature.
• Plants and insects have symbiotic interdependent relationship for survival. In some cases this would not be able to form overtime but quite rapidly in order for the both life forms to have survived.
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Thank you for not quoting the source and peer review of these claims. Start with assume a god and reject anything that doesn't conform to your claim. Just say God did it and the Bible tells me so.
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Stop being childish.

• Dembski’s theorem is from William. A. Dembski
• The Minimal Gene Set Concept is multi-faceted and establishment accepted - Google it
• The Cambrian Explosion is a well known problematic evolution paradox - Google it
• It˚s your beloved theory you show me empirical evidence that mutation is a positive benefit that has the ability to prove one species can mutate into a different species by natural processes.

These things were easy to explore; the evidence is apparent. I’ m not taking you seriously anymore; you’re basically a scientistic religious zealot but your god has no purpose, meaning or love. It craves power over life in order to enslave it to its will. Egomaniac.
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Excellent word salad of your conspiracy of all science that agrees with evolution theory. Now, rather rebut my shredding of your scientific conspiracy to disprove God, which evolution doesn't, you ramble on and on. Wrap your brain around this, if the bronze ago ignorant unknown authors got the story wrong....so what? Again. evolution wrong is not God right. If you have a better hypothesis for the diversity of life, not supernatural unproven claims, a nobel prize and fame and fortune and booster the faithful! But no, you can't and won't. Even worse you slander men and women who spend their lives trying to figure out how stuff happens besides a god did it. Your mind can't accept even the chance a tale in a book of many unproven tales might not be correct and you lie.
 Quoting: Centex7


Read this; scientists and corporations don’t care about you. God does.
The Theory of evolution is as dead as a dodo.

• Acquired physical traits are NOT passed down, only genes are passed down, to subsequent generations. Disproving Darwins notion that acquired traits accumulated over subsequent generations and generated different living species. There were no inheritable variations for natural selection to choose from. They re-wrote the theory to include Mutation.
• Mutation. Mutations do not add genetic information for species to ‘mutate’ into different kinds of species.
• The fossil record shows all forms of life, many of which currently exist, coming into existence almost simultaneously in the Cambrian Explosion, this is contrary evidence to a slow mutating naturally selective tree of transforming species.
Abiogenesis has not been seen to possible for 170 years and counting.
• Minimal Gene Set concept. Evolutionists needed a beginning from 0 gene but you cannot get down to below 397 gene sets to create a functional cell. That is the minimal gene set for a living cell.
• Dembski’s 1995 Complex Specified Information theorem (CSi) shows that it is impossible for the complex genome of biological cells to have been formed by horizontal causation and a vertical cauaslity Or intelligent design Or a structure to follow, would have to be integrated into the calculation for it ever to be realised in physical nature.
• Plants and insects have symbiotic interdependent relationship for survival. In some cases this would not be able to form overtime but quite rapidly in order for the both life forms to have survived.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84297627


Thank you for not quoting the source and peer review of these claims. Start with assume a god and reject anything that doesn't conform to your claim. Just say God did it and the Bible tells me so.
 Quoting: Centex7


Stop being childish.

• Dembski’s theorem is from William. A. Dembski
• The Minimal Gene Set Concept is multi-faceted and establishment accepted - Google it
• The Cambrian Explosion is a well known problematic evolution paradox - Google it
• It˚s your beloved theory you show me empirical evidence that mutation is a positive benefit that has the ability to prove one species can mutate into a different species by natural processes.

These things were easy to explore; the evidence is apparent. I’ m not taking you seriously anymore; you’re basically a scientistic religious zealot but your god has no purpose, meaning or love. It craves power over life in order to enslave it to its will. Egomaniac.
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What power is derived from a evidence based assessment vs a faith based one? You seem obsessed in attacking the messenger vs the message. Again you ignore the point and go after the pointer. Easy to explore? Sure god did it! Can’t get much simpler than that. [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Fuck science. Just believe in the supernatural. There are so many more benefits.
Just don't make anything up.
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Science - real science - proves there was a spontaneous eruption of vast forms of life of varying complexity here on Earth.

Not slow mutation over millennia.

Evolution is fake and designed to dupe retards.
Lots of retards posting on here.
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[link to www.arn.org]

Dembriski theorem ... doesn't look like mathematics to me

Where is the statement of the theorem precise definitions and proof
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Everything you see in the world today is because of Science
and Educated people.
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The Minimal Gene Set Concept is multi-faceted and establishment accepted - Google it

This seems silly to me ... the fact current cells require this does not mean ancient cells ket alone pre-cells would

Mutations ... yes the theory has these resulting in different species but not likely in one big jump but a long series of mutations. It's a question how this occurs I think there are signs in fossil record but you simply state its not possible. But it's not known its impossible
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Re: Evolution was the first "Trust the Science" scam.
U know intelligent design seems a bit contrary to many observed characteristics of life

For example why tree structure to taxonomy of species an intelligent designer could make each unrelated to prior or others

Why is tree structure in traits ... phenotype ... match the tree structure of similarity of DNA?

An imtligent designer could do that but doesn't have to

Why did life on earth begin with very simple life than progress to complex? An intelligent designer could just go right to complex life

Why do modern animals retain vestigial organs of their evolutionary past? Humans have vestigial gills. ... intelligent? Why?

Or the popular example Why do men have nipples if ID?

Why do mammals from gestation go thru a chain of metamorphosis to birth that resembles their evolutionary development? Octogenarian recapitulate phylogeny

An intelligent designer probably wouldn't do that
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Onotogeny recapitulate phylogeny

I meant ... u can Google that phrase
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Your God would have the power to cause our existence thru natural processes without having to intervene after creating the universe

Just throwing that in since I sense you have a deep psychological need to maintain belief in God
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All vertebrates including human develops a row of vestigial gill slit just behind the head but it is a functional organ only in fi

[link to byjus.com (secure)]

evolution explains all these things I've pointed out that seem inco sisters with intelligent design

That's one of the reasons it's a useful theory altho there are areas still not understood
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Your God would have the power to cause our existence thru natural processes without having to intervene after creating the universe

Just throwing that in since I sense you have a deep psychological need to maintain belief in God
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Then, any notion of a "God" is superfluous.

walla,
QED
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Why do ppl have this need to believe in God?

Why not consider we live in a matetial reality in which at a fundamental level there are laws determining time change

And we don't know how reality came to exist ... for that to be even a sensible question would require more formulation

Or why this reality as opposed to some other

We don't know ...
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Why do ppl have this need to believe in God?

Why not consider we live in a matetial reality in which at a fundamental level there are laws determining time change

And we don't know how reality came to exist ... for that to be even a sensible question would require more formulation

Or why this reality as opposed to some other

We don't know ...
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I guess u could try to explain it by psychological traits rooted in biology that arose thru evolutionary process favoring groups which are more cohesive

I think the roots of religious belief go back to behaviors that can be observed in other species like wolves ... in some vague way but clearly they slsi have notions of good and evil in the sense dogs will side with a person being unfairly victimized
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I had friends.
They had a painting/poster of a buncha apes.
So I said something, not nasty just I hadn't seen it before as art.

So she says "they're our forfathers".
IKYFN
lmao
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Why do ppl have this need to believe in God?


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You mean you think your forefathers were apes?
1rof1

I don't do any Kult btw. "God" fetish included.
I think they have the right to their belief though.
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Why do ppl have this need to believe in God?

Why not consider we live in a matetial reality in which at a fundamental level there are laws determining time change

And we don't know how reality came to exist ... for that to be even a sensible question would require more formulation

Or why this reality as opposed to some other

We don't know ...
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GOD is real.
Too bad you view life as a culmination of billions of years of happenstance and impossible accidents.
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Everything you see in the world today is because of Science
and Educated people.
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And?

Seems you are too stupid to understand this thread.

Evolution ISN'T science - it's a theory and a bad one at that.
It isn't science, it's fake news.
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the bible is evil bullshit and you are an evil person for trying to perpetuate it's lies.

evolution is obviously true to honest people. doesn't mean there's no Good in the universe. It means good is more precious than we realize
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the bible is evil bullshit and you are an evil person for trying to perpetuate it's lies.

evolution is obviously true to honest people. doesn't mean there's no Good in the universe. It means good is more precious than we realize
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You are wholly ignorant.
The opening post said nothing about the Bible, only GOD.
There is one GOD - creator of all.
Science proves a spontaneous eruption of all kinds and forms of life.
Science does not support evolution.
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Yep.
Evolutionists won't discuss where the first life form came from or how it got 'life' - they only state that it existed and then evolved from one form to the next.

You just have to believe and trust it.
Have faith.

It's a religion.
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Evolution is a religion.
You have to just believe and have faith that it happened, regardless of what the fossil record says.
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Technically that would have been the cloning operation that produced Eve.

Or maybe Mary's artificial insemination.
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Technically that would have been the cloning operation that produced Eve.

Or maybe Mary's artificial insemination.
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the point of the thread is that "evolution" isn't science, or fact. It's lies and junk science.
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Yep.
Evolutionists won't discuss where the first life form came from or how it got 'life' - they only state that it existed and then evolved from one form to the next.

You just have to believe and trust it.
Have faith.

It's a religion.
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there's no belief, we already know it happened because life exists.
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Nah- 1st science scam was the heliocentric jesuit garbage supposed model of our realm . Once you swallow that the rest of the shit is easy
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Nah- 1st science scam was the heliocentric jesuit garbage supposed model of our realm . Once you swallow that the rest of the shit is easy
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No. A good portion of Darwin’s original hypothesis has been rejected….by science. However his basic claim of diversity of life via adaptation and genetic changes has been repeatedly been demonstrated. Now tell me when blantenly false claims in the Bible have been deleted? You can’t. That’s the difference between science and religion. Science is not trying to prove anything except to understand the natural universe around us and why things happen. If that conflicts with your magic man claims…that’s your problem. Oddly you enjoy science. You are on the internet, science. Powered by electricity via a power grid that generated it via complex multiple sciences. Drive a car or ride in a plane? Multiple hard science did that. Get sick? Go to a doctor? Darn science again. Check the weather for a up coming trip? Let’s see…science via satellites taking photos and tracking changing conditions! Darn science again. Evolution is the current accepted theory on the diversity of life. Oddly, if tomorrow it was found to be totally wrong…that doesn’t prove anything about a god. Further, science will discover if evolution is wrong not god claims.
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We are not talking about rejecting science; we are concerned about the ongoing corruption of scientific knowledge by ideolgues for corporate gain and societal manipulation. As you display; evolution has become an ideological concept that people will stick to no matter the evidence to the contrary.

Evolution as espoused by the corporate led scientific establishment in our educational institutions and media networks IS NOT TENABLE. It’s not science anymore; its a philosophy; an ideology; a cult. And is used to perform all kinds of horrors and excuses by eliminating fundamental concepts that

a) there is no higher purpose or judgement to existence other than physical matter and

b) that all relationships are based on dominance and we can do as we wish to species less equipped than us

Evolution is essentially a socio-pathic ideology or at least has been used to excuse it. Imagine looking at your son/daughter and thinking; its just a conglomeration of genetic cells controlled by stimulant chemicals. Psychopathic.
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Excellent word salad of your conspiracy of all science that agrees with evolution theory. Now, rather rebut my shredding of your scientific conspiracy to disprove God, which evolution doesn't, you ramble on and on. Wrap your brain around this, if the bronze ago ignorant unknown authors got the story wrong....so what? Again. evolution wrong is not God right. If you have a better hypothesis for the diversity of life, not supernatural unproven claims, a nobel prize and fame and fortune and booster the faithful! But no, you can't and won't. Even worse you slander men and women who spend their lives trying to figure out how stuff happens besides a god did it. Your mind can't accept even the chance a tale in a book of many unproven tales might not be correct and you lie.
 Quoting: Centex7


Read this; scientists and corporations don’t care about you. God does.
The Theory of evolution is as dead as a dodo.

• Acquired physical traits are NOT passed down, only genes are passed down, to subsequent generations. Disproving Darwins notion that acquired traits accumulated over subsequent generations and generated different living species. There were no inheritable variations for natural selection to choose from. They re-wrote the theory to include Mutation.
• Mutation. Mutations do not add genetic information for species to ‘mutate’ into different kinds of species.
• The fossil record shows all forms of life, many of which currently exist, coming into existence almost simultaneously in the Cambrian Explosion, this is contrary evidence to a slow mutating naturally selective tree of transforming species.
Abiogenesis has not been seen to possible for 170 years and counting.
• Minimal Gene Set concept. Evolutionists needed a beginning from 0 gene but you cannot get down to below 397 gene sets to create a functional cell. That is the minimal gene set for a living cell.
• Dembski’s 1995 Complex Specified Information theorem (CSi) shows that it is impossible for the complex genome of biological cells to have been formed by horizontal causation and a vertical cauaslity Or intelligent design Or a structure to follow, would have to be integrated into the calculation for it ever to be realised in physical nature.
• Plants and insects have symbiotic interdependent relationship for survival. In some cases this would not be able to form overtime but quite rapidly in order for the both life forms to have survived.
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Species is a man-made term and concept, not a literal physical feature built into this world like you are thinking. There are lots of species concepts because it doesn't really work that well, due to evolution.
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The US Bill of Rights correctly acknowledges each individual's personal autonomy as a GOD-given right.
Each person IS free.
You don't need a government to state you are free - you ARE free.
It's just that people don't understand this anymore and have allowed themselves to believe they require and need the government to grant them permission to do whatever. They have exchanged GOD given freedom with government permitted actions.

No.
That is not life. That is not how and why we were created.

And that is why the evolutionary theory was so important to push for the last 150 years. It makes humanity a non-entity. Basically claiming that YOU are the result of millions of years of accidents and happenstance and your life has ZERO importance.
TPTB pushed this (evolution) hard because once you get people to believe there is no GOD, then they have no GOD-given rights and the government becomes the be-all and end-all.

Evolution was the first "trust the science" scam. Evolution is actually anti-scientific.
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