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The Poland problem

 
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09/29/2022 11:27 AM
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#Poland now becomes the major hub for gas distribution after #US covertly destroyed the #Germany's #NordStream pipeline with coordination of pols, Denmark, US, Ukraine, UK.
This was a deliberate attempt to make Poland the main player in the #Europe decision-making process.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Please... Russia can not occupy Kiev, are they going to occupy Warsaw? Really?
Poland keeps a tacit and declared alliance with the USA, that allows them to gain political and economic independence from Germany and Russia. The price is to follow american interests. And they do.

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Baltic Pipe gas pipeline opens, connects Norway and Poland

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I had also forgotten about Poland's demands for [1.3 TRILLION] war reparations stemming from WW2: "(The demands) intensified after Russia invaded Ukraine amid criticism of Berlin's dependence on Russian gas and its slowness in helping Kyiv." The plot thickens.

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Poland claims to be ‘locomotive of development’ in Europe
Germany, on the contrary, has caused “tremendous damage” to the continent, Polish PM insists


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 Quoting: thinking...


That's funny, Poland started WWII and the Soviet Union was amassing 20 divisions on the borders of Ukraine, Romania and the Baltic for total war to take all of Europa! Germany acted in defence of Europe and its borders!
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09/29/2022 12:47 PM
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Re: The Poland problem
#Poland now becomes the major hub for gas distribution after #US covertly destroyed the #Germany's #NordStream pipeline with coordination of pols, Denmark, US, Ukraine, UK.
This was a deliberate attempt to make Poland the main player in the #Europe decision-making process.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Please... Russia can not occupy Kiev, are they going to occupy Warsaw? Really?
Poland keeps a tacit and declared alliance with the USA, that allows them to gain political and economic independence from Germany and Russia. The price is to follow american interests. And they do.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Baltic Pipe gas pipeline opens, connects Norway and Poland

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

I had also forgotten about Poland's demands for [1.3 TRILLION] war reparations stemming from WW2: "(The demands) intensified after Russia invaded Ukraine amid criticism of Berlin's dependence on Russian gas and its slowness in helping Kyiv." The plot thickens.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Poland claims to be ‘locomotive of development’ in Europe
Germany, on the contrary, has caused “tremendous damage” to the continent, Polish PM insists


[link to www.rt.com (secure)]
 Quoting: thinking...


That's funny, Poland started WWII and the Soviet Union was amassing 20 divisions on the borders of Ukraine, Romania and the Baltic for total war to take all of Europa! Germany acted in defence of Europe and its borders!
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Fucking what?:rere23:
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Re: The Poland problem
#Poland now becomes the major hub for gas distribution after #US covertly destroyed the #Germany's #NordStream pipeline with coordination of pols, Denmark, US, Ukraine, UK.
This was a deliberate attempt to make Poland the main player in the #Europe decision-making process.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Please... Russia can not occupy Kiev, are they going to occupy Warsaw? Really?
Poland keeps a tacit and declared alliance with the USA, that allows them to gain political and economic independence from Germany and Russia. The price is to follow american interests. And they do.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Baltic Pipe gas pipeline opens, connects Norway and Poland

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

I had also forgotten about Poland's demands for [1.3 TRILLION] war reparations stemming from WW2: "(The demands) intensified after Russia invaded Ukraine amid criticism of Berlin's dependence on Russian gas and its slowness in helping Kyiv." The plot thickens.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Poland claims to be ‘locomotive of development’ in Europe
Germany, on the contrary, has caused “tremendous damage” to the continent, Polish PM insists


[link to www.rt.com (secure)]
 Quoting: thinking...


That's funny, Poland started WWII and the Soviet Union was amassing 20 divisions on the borders of Ukraine, Romania and the Baltic for total war to take all of Europa! Germany acted in defence of Europe and its borders!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80244264


Fucking what?:rere23:
thinking...  (OP)

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09/29/2022 05:00 PM

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The Polish government on the other hand is like many other governments, evil and stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73186423


Smart ones were loaded on plane and crashed in Smolensk few years ago . Military was bribed with new hardware and better wages ,Censorship in Poland is back and security services made of bandits like during Communist times make sure hysterical rusophobia is prevailing tune
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84287194


The Demon in Democracy: Totalitarian Temptations in Free Societies, by Ryszard Legutko, a Polish professor of philosophy and member of the European Parliament. Legutko, whose influence has recently grown among conservatives in Europe and the United States, argues that the nature and flaws of liberal democracy and communism are much more similar than most like to think. Above all they are similar in the way their underlying logic leads to the strengthening of what is “common” or base in man at the expense of what is potentially great and noble in him.

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I have the above book and it's both excellent and scary. He proves that "liberal democracy" ends up as communism, which we have certainly seen with the western European Satanists. Poland is fast headed in that direction. Note that Hungary describes itself as an ILLIBERAL democracy and what a better country it is.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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09/29/2022 05:04 PM

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It's interesting to me that though they, too, were victims of communism, Hungary has avoided taking this path of hate, revenge and inevitable suicide.

“Before You Embark On A Journey Of Revenge, Dig Two Graves” — Confucius
 Quoting: thinking...


You don't know Polish history. Maybe you should learn a bit before you add "clever" comments like you did. Comparing Hungarian and Polish history is plain silly.
Just for starters read this: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78323542


I know about it. It's the earlier, pre WWI history that I don't know about.

You think the Confucius quote was "clever"? It's a fact. Poland strutting around as the US' bitch and thinking it's going to get revenge against Russia and Germany will only lead to destruction.
 Quoting: thinking...


Poland is not looking for revenge. Poland wants guarantees that what happened to them in the past will not happen again. Seeing what's going on now, they have no other option than to be US' bitch. It's better to be a bitch of the Hegemon then to be abused by a greedy and cruel neighbor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78323542


Bullshit. It is on the path of revenge on steroids. It's gloating over the Nordstream sabotage which will destroy Germany and, at the same time, is demanding Germany pay them 1.3 trillion (to be revised upwards, according to the Polish govt) in reparations. What is being done to Germany is looking more and more like the Treaty of Versailles. How'd that work out?
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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09/29/2022 05:06 PM

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Deep Sea pipelines may be obsolete and being phased out. Hundreds of LNG Supertankers have been launched in past decade and are roaming ALL earth's oceans with the same stuff nordstream delivered.
Thousands more could come from world Steel Industry in next 10 years.
Russia is rich enough to keep most of its LNG domestically.
There are millions more angry post COVID people in Baltic now who are capable of using a craigslist fishing boat and recreational scuba equipment to pull off shit like this. These pipelines are sitting duck targets.
At least a super tanker has some defensive radar to spot potential threats and they are moving targets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82885315


how are boats more efficient or greener than simply pipelines? lol
 Quoting: T-Man


Exactly and a thousand LNG transport ships can't even scratch the surface of the amount of NG delivered by pipelines.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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09/29/2022 05:08 PM

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cant you all see, this war is USA vs. the rest of the world?

basically become USA's donkey and have safety and trade, such bargaining is nothing more than slavery and oppression and forcing otherwise national militaries to do the USA's dirty work as per usual with the threat of removing it all if you step out of line.

NATO? no there is the USA and it's donkeys

America must be out of their minds if they think their BS alliances and treaties carry an ounce of weight in 2022. Economically, militarily, politically we'd all infact be better off cutting ties with the USA and erasing it from the map.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80908356


All true but do you see anyone in the EU cutting ties with the US? No, they are doing as ordered and sanctioning Russia to their own detriment. Hungary and Serbia are the only ones resisting.
 Quoting: thinking...


Serbia won’t even recognize the annexation stolen land in Ukrainian
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79637004


That's a different issue from them resisting the EU's sanctions and it has to do with Kosovo.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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09/29/2022 05:17 PM

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Poland will be the foundation for new Europe.
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Well, that's what they claim and I linked an article about it in my OP. The issue with that is at what price? The price is to be Uncle Sam's bitch, which means taking up the AngloZio agendas, which includes destroying Germany and Russia. Russia will not be destroyed without nuclear war. How do you suppose that's gonna work out for Poland?
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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09/29/2022 05:23 PM

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Polish are stupid? They were given land as compensation after WW2. Poland truly is an evil nation. Polish are full blown batshit crazy narcissists.

Makes me think Poland really did attack NAZI Germany, starting WW2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84271498


They didn't attack Germany per se, but committed lots of atrocities towards the German remnant which was left behind after WW1, when Germany lost lots of territories (notorious Danzig Corridor) after the Versaille treaty to Poland which lead Hitler to attack Poland eventually.
 Quoting: Tekunda


Yeah... Poland made Hitler so pissed he had to attack Poland, decide to destroy all "J"'s in Europe and attack few other countries including his former friend Stalin (On 22 VI 1941 Germany attacked Russia despite signed Ribbentrop-Molotov pact). That all was because of polish "atrocities" ? ARe you serious ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54142455


Silesia was given to Poland after WWl. Silesia, as a minority felt mistreated by Poland. Germany retook Silesia in 1939. It was then given back to Poland after WWll. Looks like they are being ostracized again.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28718123


Oh, boy, that's how it started in Ukraine with the ethnic Russian population.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer





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