Catastrophic Destruction Leaving Hundreds Dead In Florida Hurricane Aftermath | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80315040 United States 09/29/2022 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, it is sad. Consider, though if they were elderly, disabled or had no means of transportation, and/ or fearing the vloss of items in their homes were the only possessions they had. I believe there are many valid reasons why people would not or could not relocate. |
TBJ1026
User ID: 80681673 United States 09/29/2022 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hurricane Andrew killed 65 people......... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80992179 'Hundreds' is an extreme amount for a random storm, as an initial casualty projection. What are we really talking? and why? Nope. Read this. There was a massive cover up of how many died by Andrew. [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net (secure)] Be loyal to truth... |
soccerinco
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84072972 United States 09/29/2022 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My brother is five miles ftom the beach in Naples and is fine except no power. He has plenty of bottled water. However, anything within a mile from the beach got hit with flood pretty bad. The flood more than doubled the record. |
Deplorable Zenobia
User ID: 83964349 United States 09/29/2022 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knew someone living in New Orleans when Katrina hit. They worked at a car dealership. It was beyond him as to why his employer and other dealerships (and fleets) just sit in lots when they could've used them to move the poor and homeless. But that's a story for another day. And yeah, the storm track jogging off projected path and/or stalling slightly makes a HUGE difference. Prayers up for all affected. And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
Room222
User ID: 81685284 United States 09/29/2022 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hurricane Andrew killed 65 people......... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80992179 'Hundreds' is an extreme amount for a random storm, as an initial casualty projection. What are we really talking? and why? True enough but you can't leave out the population increase variable. Andrew, state pop 13 million. Ian, 22.5 "People are stupid;they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83318215 United States 09/29/2022 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most thought the storm was going to hit Tampa directly. That's what the forecast models were saying. It didn't take the eastward jog till yesterday morning. By then it was too late to do anything. They had to hunker down in place. You never really know with a hurricane. That's right, they got the track wrong. We thought it was coming up my way. Everyone here was out getting supplies and preparing, it was a zoo here. But, then it took a turn east and that was it. Too late for those people to leave. It takes a long time to prepare to evacuate, especially if you have kids, pets, elderly, etc. It's not as easy as people think. Seems like the concept of a bug out bag and evac are foreign to most of the mindless facebook and tik-tok drones out there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82910173 United States 09/29/2022 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most thought the storm was going to hit Tampa directly. That's what the forecast models were saying. It didn't take the eastward jog till yesterday morning. By then it was too late to do anything. They had to hunker down in place. You never really know with a hurricane. Many Tampa residents evacuated to Ft Myers because the track was projected to be a direct hit on Tampa. I'm 35 miles North of where Ian landed. We expected to be completely wiped out. Ended up wth no damage. Wind and ran only. No surge. |
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Room222
User ID: 81685284 United States 09/29/2022 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hurricane Andrew killed 65 people......... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80992179 'Hundreds' is an extreme amount for a random storm, as an initial casualty projection. What are we really talking? and why? Nope. Read this. There was a massive cover up of how many died by Andrew. [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net (secure)] That is true. I was there with a friend and fireman who helped clean up. He said the number of fatalities were grossly under reported.. "People are stupid;they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79652311 United States 09/29/2022 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most thought the storm was going to hit Tampa directly. That's what the forecast models were saying. It didn't take the eastward jog till yesterday morning. By then it was too late to do anything. They had to hunker down in place. You never really know with a hurricane. Many Tampa residents evacuated to Ft Myers because the track was projected to be a direct hit on Tampa. I'm 35 miles North of where Ian landed. We expected to be completely wiped out. Ended up wth no damage. Wind and ran only. No surge. You never stay on the coast or near water in a hurricane though. Should have gone southeast. Or straight north. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83767254 United States 09/29/2022 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All those saying they had time to get out.. no they didn’t.. NHC really messed this up, they always like to show big cities getting this and up till Tuesday morning they kept showing Tampa getting a direct hit.. then they started moving it down 30 miles every run.. it ended up hitting 200 miles south of Tampa.. Tampa didn’t even suffer any real power outage and barely got category 1 gusts.. they evacuated the entire city of Tampa and the poor small town folks down south had no time to move or relocate and had to hunker down best they could… this is science for you |
I'm Listening
User ID: 83598347 United States 09/29/2022 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Florida jobs pay shit and the costs of leaving for storms and then trying to return is a gamble most cannot afford. Then add in the scumbag insurance adjusters and companies that prey upon the survivors and it's definitely something most don't want to experience. Yes. Most ppl cannot afford to evacuate, even if their life depends on it, sadly. |
I'm Listening
User ID: 83598347 United States 09/29/2022 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All those saying they had time to get out.. no they didn’t.. NHC really messed this up, they always like to show big cities getting this and up till Tuesday morning they kept showing Tampa getting a direct hit.. then they started moving it down 30 miles every run.. it ended up hitting 200 miles south of Tampa.. Tampa didn’t even suffer any real power outage and barely got category 1 gusts.. they evacuated the entire city of Tampa and the poor small town folks down south had no time to move or relocate and had to hunker down best they could… this is science for you Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83767254 This is a good point too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71481453 Kazakhstan 09/29/2022 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People have lost their minds. They don't think anything is real anymore, everything is a lie or a conspiracy or hype. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79652311 Yep, they were people. We have no idea how many, but they were people. This story reminds me, of how was it last year in china, a road was blocked going into a tunnel. The tunnel got flooded, and people never left there cars, and no one knows how many died in that situation. |
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daughteroftheking8
User ID: 81033349 United States 09/29/2022 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All those saying they had time to get out.. no they didn’t.. NHC really messed this up, they always like to show big cities getting this and up till Tuesday morning they kept showing Tampa getting a direct hit.. then they started moving it down 30 miles every run.. it ended up hitting 200 miles south of Tampa.. Tampa didn’t even suffer any real power outage and barely got category 1 gusts.. they evacuated the entire city of Tampa and the poor small town folks down south had no time to move or relocate and had to hunker down best they could… this is science for you Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83767254 Yea, not to mention that you don't want to be stuck on the interstate durring a hurricane. That could happen if you don't evacuate early because grid lock, run out of gas and no gas to be bought anywhere......it's just chaos. You can't evacuate at the last minute and that's even if you're able, many are not. daughteroftheking8 |
Shaun Kaven
User ID: 71498518 Colombia 09/29/2022 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Incorrect. The area hit is one of the wealthiest in the nation. Naples has more golf courses per square mile than any other place in the US. Like I told my ex-wife, I said: honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides that, it’s all in the reflexes… |
Dolycha
User ID: 78579564 United States 09/29/2022 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This storm was a record breaker in size. It was one of the 4 largest to ever hit the state in the last 100 years. Actually, most DID evacuate. Sadly, the storm was of such a magnitude that people were literally stuck in traffic on the 408 as that thing hit. I live here. I was in the orange "voluntary" evacuation zone, but that's a judgement call based on your property and shelter. Most of us DON'T all just run for the hills because there is a definite MANDATORY evacuation in the strike zone. The rest of us who are not in the red usually batten down rather than join the millions who have to leave. Even with days in advance, did you know that jobs do NOT give you time off to prep? They don't. So we all basically have the 2 or 3 days to get out. Did you know the highways can't accomodate that many people trying to leave at once? They can't, and the WORST thing to do is to get stuck in traffic and get hit while in your car. I'm willing to bet a good many deaths are people who were in the process of evacuating, NOT people who chose to batten down and stay. Floridians are well versed in hurricane prep, but we have currently hundrends of thousands of people who came here to live due to economy/vaccine mandates, etc....who had no idea what a hurricane even really was....and that's another area where you will see fatalities. People who had no idea. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83050270 United States 09/29/2022 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People have lost their minds. They don't think anything is real anymore, everything is a lie or a conspiracy or hype. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79652311 Yep, they were people. We have no idea how many, but they were people. This story reminds me, of how was it last year in china, a road was blocked going into a tunnel. The tunnel got flooded, and people never left there cars, and no one knows how many died in that situation. Exactly what hive mind think will get you and exactly wtf the tptb want. No critical thinking. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10285897 United States 09/29/2022 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My sister is pretty tied into the Ft. Myers area with her business. She has some friends in the local fire department that it's REALLY bad.. there were bodies and cars with bodies in them floating down the streets from drowning. |
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User ID: 84109424 United States 09/29/2022 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most thought the storm was going to hit Tampa directly. That's what the forecast models were saying. It didn't take the eastward jog till yesterday morning. By then it was too late to do anything. They had to hunker down in place. You never really know with a hurricane. This. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10285897 United States 09/29/2022 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This storm was a record breaker in size. It was one of the 4 largest to ever hit the state in the last 100 years. Actually, most DID evacuate. Sadly, the storm was of such a magnitude that people were literally stuck in traffic on the 408 as that thing hit. I live here. I was in the orange "voluntary" evacuation zone, but that's a judgement call based on your property and shelter. Most of us DON'T all just run for the hills because there is a definite MANDATORY evacuation in the strike zone. The rest of us who are not in the red usually batten down rather than join the millions who have to leave. Even with days in advance, did you know that jobs do NOT give you time off to prep? They don't. So we all basically have the 2 or 3 days to get out. Did you know the highways can't accomodate that many people trying to leave at once? They can't, and the WORST thing to do is to get stuck in traffic and get hit while in your car. I'm willing to bet a good many deaths are people who were in the process of evacuating, NOT people who chose to batten down and stay. Floridians are well versed in hurricane prep, but we have currently hundrends of thousands of people who came here to live due to economy/vaccine mandates, etc....who had no idea what a hurricane even really was....and that's another area where you will see fatalities. People who had no idea. We had to evac for andrew and it was fucking AWFUL trying to drive up 27 from homestead. It took us 7hrs to get to clewiston and another 14hrs to get to Georgia because there wasn't a single hotel available until we got there. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83952533 United States 09/29/2022 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been expecting this for years.. CAT 5 even.. Wow.. Been through 2 direct hurricanes in Pensacola, and 2 other nearby. Anyone in Fla needs to plan a head and be ready. A CAT 3+ is nothing to ignore. Pensacola had a 40' tidal wave from Hurricane Ivan.. in 2004. It just sit slowly off the coast dumping water on the land. When it moved in, it pushed water up canals that had never flooded. Many did not have flood insurance there. Wiped out part of I-10 bridges, destroyed 3,800 homes. Power off for weeks.. in most places. Any workers coming to Florida need to be self sufficient.. There will be a shortage of all supplies, generators, etc. Red Lights will not work.. people will be tired and stressed.. not notice intersection... and cause numerous accidents. Tree & trash debris removal will be everywhere. Dropping nails too.. so expect flat tires. |