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Microdosing...incredible

 
Hairy man  (OP)

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your body has a tolerance that's why you can't trip after your first , so how exactly does micro dosing work if you have a constant tolerance.... seems like placebo
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What's the difference honestly? Placebo, or the real deal, result is the same.
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your body has a tolerance that's why you can't trip after your first , so how exactly does micro dosing work if you have a constant tolerance.... seems like placebo
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It's cycled. 2 days on 1 day off.


It's far from a placebo effect, in fact, plenty of science is there today to quantify the efficacy of Micro-dosing. All you need to do is google or read this article from John Hopkins.



[link to www.hopkinsmedicine.org (secure)]
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but that's not enough for large doses wouldn't it be the same for smaller amounts? you need like weeks to trip again after a normal dose.
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Over labor day weekend I was with the family and started to have pretty severe symptoms of a heart attack: chest pain, sweating, irregular and fast heart beat, legs felt really heavy.

checked in to the ER.


Many tests later diagnosed with a panic attack. Much better than a heart attack, but still not good.
Tuesday following I go to my regular doctor. She asks me if i want anxiety meds to take daily, or some that i can take when I'm feeling anxious. I decline as I was feeling good and did not want big pharma involved.

Fast forward 2 weeks.

Going to pick up oldest at high school. Wreck way ahead of me that I did not know about or see. Traffic backed way up. Try another route same story. Try a third route same story. Have another panic attack but keep it under control.

Decide I can't live like this. Going to call doc and get meds.

Remember that my friend microdoses mushrooms. Call him instead.

He gave me some to try. Next morning (sunday) I take one. Within 1.5 hours feel like the world has been lifted off my shoulders. No intoxication, or tripping. Barely feel a body buzz maybe. Emotions fully intact. Kids fighting, I get annoyed, but do not feel the world closing in on me.

Been doing it daily since. The results are phenomenal.
 Quoting: Hairy man


Do you drink a lot? If you drink heavily regularly, you may be depleting your GABA levels which help regulate emotions and body functions that would prevent you normally from having panic attacks.
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I definitely need to slow down on booze. That's another reason for microdosing. Also going to therapy that started yesterday.
I told my therapist this same story, and she told me I made the correct decision in calling my friend as opposed to my doc. Told me sedatives make anxiety worse because now you are dealing with a chemical addiction.
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This is pointless. Op is saying microdosing works and everything is great but can't share ("don't know ") what is it. A bunch of bullshit
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Yea, you know what else is incredible?

How society has been demonizing psychedelics for decades now.

It's the federal government's fault, the people who make laws are the most braindead sacks of shit in existence.

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I was just following this protocol for about two weeks.
I really noticed the difference about 3 days after stopping.
I started getting cranky again and life stopped going my way.
Time to start again.
I like making chocolates more that honey or pills.
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I used to grow mushrooms for 15 years.. It’s much much easier than marijuana. You can legally buy spores off the internet and then you take a ratio of brown rice flour and vermiculite fill up jars and pressure cook to sterilize it and then inject the spores into the jars and basically just wait a month and then fruit them. Look up PF TEK if you would like to learn more
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your body has a tolerance that's why you can't trip after your first , so how exactly does micro dosing work if you have a constant tolerance.... seems like placebo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82622611


It's cycled. 2 days on 1 day off.


It's far from a placebo effect, in fact, plenty of science is there today to quantify the efficacy of Micro-dosing. All you need to do is google or read this article from John Hopkins.



[link to www.hopkinsmedicine.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


but that's not enough for large doses wouldn't it be the same for smaller amounts? you need like weeks to trip again after a normal dose.
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It's completely different for MDing. The reason for the pauses is to stop any tolerance issues, however, you are spot on with Macro dosing it does take about 3 to 4 weeks until a macrodose will work again, it differs with individuals though some may take up to two month off.
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your body has a tolerance that's why you can't trip after your first , so how exactly does micro dosing work if you have a constant tolerance.... seems like placebo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82622611


It's cycled. 2 days on 1 day off.


It's far from a placebo effect, in fact, plenty of science is there today to quantify the efficacy of Micro-dosing. All you need to do is google or read this article from John Hopkins.



[link to www.hopkinsmedicine.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


but that's not enough for large doses wouldn't it be the same for smaller amounts? you need like weeks to trip again after a normal dose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82622611


your body has a tolerance that's why you can't trip after your first , so how exactly does micro dosing work if you have a constant tolerance.... seems like placebo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82622611


It's cycled. 2 days on 1 day off.


It's far from a placebo effect, in fact, plenty of science is there today to quantify the efficacy of Micro-dosing. All you need to do is google or read this article from John Hopkins.



[link to www.hopkinsmedicine.org (secure)]
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but that's not enough for large doses wouldn't it be the same for smaller amounts? you need like weeks to trip again after a normal dose.
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Think of it like this:
Regularly having an alcoholic drink with dinner vs getting wasted.
You can easily enjoy a daily drink, but you need time to process a night of heavy partying.
Same substance, different intentions.

Also; for fellow microdosers- try adding lions mane mushroom and niacin supplements for added benefit.
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I used to grow mushrooms for 15 years.. It’s much much easier than marijuana. You can legally buy spores off the internet and then you take a ratio of brown rice flour and vermiculite fill up jars and pressure cook to sterilize it and then inject the spores into the jars and basically just wait a month and then fruit them. Look up PF TEK if you would like to learn more
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81091418


PF TEK is an old and useless protocol for growing. Monotubs are the way to roll these days or outside grows is people understand how.


Plenty of excellent groups online showing how it's done these days.
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Changed my life as well. In fact, I make my own capsules for my husband and I. He has pretty severe OCD that manifests when stressed and they were a game changer.

It is good to cycle though. I will take time off for 3 days to a week and then get back to it.

Larger doses can be powerful in ceremonial setting if you have a good sitter. Undo years of trauma. Rewire the brain.

I have worked with my psychedelics all in ceremonial settings and depending on the type you can have dramatic transformations, Integration is key.

Earth Medicine for the win.
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Where do you get your powder for the capsules?
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microdosing may heighten some areas of awareness, but it's at the cost of inhibiting other areas

better to meditate and stay balanced with full faculties intact
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Over labor day weekend I was with the family and started to have pretty severe symptoms of a heart attack: chest pain, sweating, irregular and fast heart beat, legs felt really heavy.

checked in to the ER.


Many tests later diagnosed with a panic attack. Much better than a heart attack, but still not good.
Tuesday following I go to my regular doctor. She asks me if i want anxiety meds to take daily, or some that i can take when I'm feeling anxious. I decline as I was feeling good and did not want big pharma involved.

Fast forward 2 weeks.

Going to pick up oldest at high school. Wreck way ahead of me that I did not know about or see. Traffic backed way up. Try another route same story. Try a third route same story. Have another panic attack but keep it under control.

Decide I can't live like this. Going to call doc and get meds.

Remember that my friend microdoses mushrooms. Call him instead.

He gave me some to try. Next morning (sunday) I take one. Within 1.5 hours feel like the world has been lifted off my shoulders. No intoxication, or tripping. Barely feel a body buzz maybe. Emotions fully intact. Kids fighting, I get annoyed, but do not feel the world closing in on me.

Been doing it daily since. The results are phenomenal.
 Quoting: Hairy man


Good to hear. I’m like your friend, I try to tell any in my circles who will listen to try this. For me, I create a tea, freeze the tea into small ice cubes, and then use a couple of the ice cubes with a, “normal tea” at night. I also pick my own mushrooms and have a couple year supply at this moment. By chance, what mushroom are you micordosing? Amanita muscaria (Mario looking mushroom is a good one, but has to be prepared right).

Thanks for sharing and good luck!
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your body has a tolerance that's why you can't trip after your first , so how exactly does micro dosing work if you have a constant tolerance.... seems like placebo
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It's cycled. 2 days on 1 day off.


It's far from a placebo effect, in fact, plenty of science is there today to quantify the efficacy of Micro-dosing. All you need to do is google or read this article from John Hopkins.



[link to www.hopkinsmedicine.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


but that's not enough for large doses wouldn't it be the same for smaller amounts? you need like weeks to trip again after a normal dose.
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Micrdosing isn’t to trip though. The mushrooms do more than just providing psychedelic experiences. They also help repair neural pathways. But, one thing to keep in mind. If someone is microdosing regularly, then they won’t be able to have a strong psychedelic experience without taking a break (2 weeks is the best).
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I like to micro-dose vodka, 3.5 ounces a day and I feel like I can do anything, have tons of energy and feel happy. It also makes me better at math and programming.
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It's interesting you say this because after micro-dosing psilocybin for about 3 months I never touched a drop of alcohol again. Don't even crave it anymore. I drank for decades too.
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Well that's interesting, I would love to micro-dose psilocybin but I have no idea where to get any. I had not drank vodka in over 20 years. Thought I'd try it again and surprisingly I've been having very beneficial results, …that is as long as I don't go over 3.5 ounces.
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Where do you get your powder for the capsules?
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If you want to understand how to properly grow you'll have to spend some time doing research. The person that said psilocybin is easier to grow than cannabis is not telling the truth because it takes time and patience.


Start here on FB couple of groups to help you out.


The shroomery.

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]


Silly Science Center.

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Depression and Microdosing

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microdosing may heighten some areas of awareness, but it's at the cost of inhibiting other areas

better to meditate and stay balanced with full faculties intact
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It’s best to combine it all. Yes meditation is good. Ever try meditating while taking a large amount of psychedelics? That can also be a very amazing experience (not one to take lightly though). Do you practice lucid dreaming or astral projection? If so, microdosing helps one to remember dreams and have vivid dreams. We can learn from a large variety of sources and methods. There absolutely no reason to limit ourselves to only one or a few.

Good luck
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your body has a tolerance that's why you can't trip after your first , so how exactly does micro dosing work if you have a constant tolerance.... seems like placebo
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It's cycled. 2 days on 1 day off.


It's far from a placebo effect, in fact, plenty of science is there today to quantify the efficacy of Micro-dosing. All you need to do is google or read this article from John Hopkins.



[link to www.hopkinsmedicine.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


but that's not enough for large doses wouldn't it be the same for smaller amounts? you need like weeks to trip again after a normal dose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82622611


Micrdosing isn’t to trip though. The mushrooms do more than just providing psychedelic experiences. They also help repair neural pathways. But, one thing to keep in mind. If someone is microdosing regularly, then they won’t be able to have a strong psychedelic experience without taking a break (2 weeks is the best).
 Quoting: Tanoros


MDing works via neuroplasticity restoration and balancing the hemispheres of the brain. It's been quantified plenty these days via major universities and before that idiot Nixon outlawed them for no reason there was tons of science backing it.
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microdosing may heighten some areas of awareness, but it's at the cost of inhibiting other areas

better to meditate and stay balanced with full faculties intact
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that's total BS, unless you can back your claims you're pulling this claim out of your backside.


I'd like to see the abstracts that quantify this BS claim.
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I can verify this works.

But then low micro smoking herb can have similar effect.

Different tools tho. Sometimes similar results. Your spirit is the same regardless.

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I like to micro-dose vodka, 3.5 ounces a day and I feel like I can do anything, have tons of energy and feel happy. It also makes me better at math and programming.
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It's interesting you say this because after micro-dosing psilocybin for about 3 months I never touched a drop of alcohol again. Don't even crave it anymore. I drank for decades too.
 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


Well that's interesting, I would love to micro-dose psilocybin but I have no idea where to get any. I had not drank vodka in over 20 years. Thought I'd try it again and surprisingly I've been having very beneficial results, …that is as long as I don't go over 3.5 ounces.
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Look into micro dosing amanita muscaria (Mario mushroom). I believe you can buy it online. If not, many states on the west coast have them naturally in the early winter (November/December for the PNW specifically).

I typically use psilocybin for larger doses and amanita for micro dosing. It really does open up the door for amazing dream experiences as well, and lucid dreaming opportunities.

Good luck
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Not sure what kind.
As for the amount, it is the size of an average multivitamin. It looks exactly like milk thistle supplement. Not sure What the amount equals in weight, but small.
If I was you, I would talk to friends who might be into this kind of thing. Even if they just smoke weed, they probably know where to get mushrooms.
 Quoting: Hairy man


So, you have been partaking in smoking some heavy-duty Mary Jane, every once in a while.

And all the sudden, especially as of lately, you start having panic attacks.

So now you are micro dosing mushrooms, and everything seems fine.

In the Next few months, you will start telling us how a stiff alcohol drink is necessary every night and helps you sleep better.

Then in 6 months you will claim the rainbow-colored opioids are the best, especially the ones laced with fentanyl.

norespect
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I think shrooms are in a different class. You're lumping all together.
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100% accurate. People that lump psychadelics in with other street drugs are just showing their ignorance. There's a ton of research out there that show amazing efficacy for treating non-treatable PTSD and depression. There was one study by Johns Hopkins that studied the efficacy of treating PTSD-riddled vets with MDMA and were so shocked by the results that they petitioned to skip straight to Stage 3 FDA trials. There's also a great documentary on Netflix about it called "How to Change your Mind".

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Word of advice for OP who is enjoying microdosing...don't do it non-stop or you will build a tolerance and will see diminishing returns. Psychs cannot be taken long term without developing tolerance.
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It's cycled. 2 days on 1 day off.


It's far from a placebo effect, in fact, plenty of science is there today to quantify the efficacy of Micro-dosing. All you need to do is google or read this article from John Hopkins.



[link to www.hopkinsmedicine.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


but that's not enough for large doses wouldn't it be the same for smaller amounts? you need like weeks to trip again after a normal dose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82622611


Micrdosing isn’t to trip though. The mushrooms do more than just providing psychedelic experiences. They also help repair neural pathways. But, one thing to keep in mind. If someone is microdosing regularly, then they won’t be able to have a strong psychedelic experience without taking a break (2 weeks is the best).
 Quoting: Tanoros


MDing works via neuroplasticity restoration and balancing the hemispheres of the brain. It's been quantified plenty these days via major universities and before that idiot Nixon outlawed them for no reason there was tons of science backing it.
 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


Thanks for sharing the more technical details
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Where do you get your powder for the capsules?
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If you want to understand how to properly grow you'll have to spend some time doing research. The person that said psilocybin is easier to grow than cannabis is not telling the truth because it takes time and patience.


Start here on FB couple of groups to help you out.


The shroomery.

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]


Silly Science Center.

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]


Depression and Microdosing

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 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


Agree, growing mushrooms is a bit harder than bud. You’ll probably have a little trial and error, but after a couple batches you can get the hang of it. I personally used the, “Midwest grow kit” there are different sizes, but they have good instructions and all you need to get going (I recommend doubling up on the spores though)

Good luck
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Where do you get your powder for the capsules?
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If you want to understand how to properly grow you'll have to spend some time doing research. The person that said psilocybin is easier to grow than cannabis is not telling the truth because it takes time and patience.


Start here on FB couple of groups to help you out.


The shroomery.

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]


Silly Science Center.

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]


Depression and Microdosing

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


Agree, growing mushrooms is a bit harder than bud. You’ll probably have a little trial and error, but after a couple batches you can get the hang of it. I personally used the, “Midwest grow kit” there are different sizes, but they have good instructions and all you need to get going (I recommend doubling up on the spores though)

Good luck
 Quoting: Tanoros


Grow kits are sketchy I'd steer clear of them. A single spore syringe can last decades if used properly by only squeezing the sides of the syringe lightly onto an agar plate to get a single drop. With that drop, thousands of plates can be made to isolate a single hardy rhizomorphic strain.

If people follow the links I provided it'll be the portal to a new world and the rabbit hole goes really deep if people are interested.

I posted the information for people's self-empowerment into mycology. hf
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Fun fact: psychedelic mushrooms grow everywhere in abundance.


Fun fact #2: so do deathly poisonous ones.





Get a really good ID book.


Or grow your own.



They are found off trails and in parks because people take them outdoors and inadvertently spread the spores.



Fun Fact #3: psilocybin is the EASIEST mushroom type to cultivate. Most mushrooms are generally very very difficult to grow your own. So it's the perfect starter mushroom of any kind.



Don't eat anything unless you are 200000% sure what it is. And only take a little art first.
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where do you find spores to grow? 2nd what about tolerance seems like micro dosing won't work. How do you have tolerance on large doses but none on micro dosing?
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Go online and do a serach they are everywhere
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I've noticed a lot of people are feeling more anxious lately. I think it's related to the fluctuating Schumann resonance and/or increased solar flares.
Plus the state of the world for the past 2 years has increased anxiety in general.
Lots of reasons why people might have panic attacks.
Microdosing seems to be a very effective and safe way of living with mental health concerns. Or improving neurological functioning if there are no mental health concerns.
You start out with a miniscule amount in water and gradually add more up to a top level.
You don't want to get high.
You want to feel like you do on a great day where everything is going your way.
Additionally, psychadelic psychotherapy is a burgeoning field. More and more cities are approving studies to look at mdma mushrooms and other entheogens which can assist those with mental health issues, along with more traditional therapies.
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no.

vaccines.
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I like to micro-dose vodka, 3.5 ounces a day and I feel like I can do anything, have tons of energy and feel happy. It also makes me better at math and programming.
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It's interesting you say this because after micro-dosing psilocybin for about 3 months I never touched a drop of alcohol again. Don't even crave it anymore. I drank for decades too.
 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


Well that's interesting, I would love to micro-dose psilocybin but I have no idea where to get any. I had not drank vodka in over 20 years. Thought I'd try it again and surprisingly I've been having very beneficial results, …that is as long as I don't go over 3.5 ounces.
 Quoting: Murdock


Look into micro dosing amanita muscaria (Mario mushroom). I believe you can buy it online. If not, many states on the west coast have them naturally in the early winter (November/December for the PNW specifically).

I typically use psilocybin for larger doses and amanita for micro dosing. It really does open up the door for amazing dream experiences as well, and lucid dreaming opportunities.

Good luck
 Quoting: Tanoros


Thanks, I'll look into that. I did a lot of psilocybin mushrooms in college back in the mid 90's, but it sure as hell wasn't in micro doses, …was a lot of fun though!
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Changed my life as well. In fact, I make my own capsules for my husband and I. He has pretty severe OCD that manifests when stressed and they were a game changer.

It is good to cycle though. I will take time off for 3 days to a week and then get back to it.

Larger doses can be powerful in ceremonial setting if you have a good sitter. Undo years of trauma. Rewire the brain.

I have worked with my psychedelics all in ceremonial settings and depending on the type you can have dramatic transformations, Integration is key.

Earth Medicine for the win.
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Where do you get your powder for the capsules?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78797599


I have a friend local who grows. I have done the reseearch to grow myself but I don't have the time at the moment.
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I like to micro-dose vodka, 3.5 ounces a day and I feel like I can do anything, have tons of energy and feel happy. It also makes me better at math and programming.
 Quoting: Murdock


It's interesting you say this because after micro-dosing psilocybin for about 3 months I never touched a drop of alcohol again. Don't even crave it anymore. I drank for decades too.
 Quoting: Matrix Doctor


Well that's interesting, I would love to micro-dose psilocybin but I have no idea where to get any. I had not drank vodka in over 20 years. Thought I'd try it again and surprisingly I've been having very beneficial results, …that is as long as I don't go over 3.5 ounces.
 Quoting: Murdock


Look into micro dosing amanita muscaria (Mario mushroom). I believe you can buy it online. If not, many states on the west coast have them naturally in the early winter (November/December for the PNW specifically).

I typically use psilocybin for larger doses and amanita for micro dosing. It really does open up the door for amazing dream experiences as well, and lucid dreaming opportunities.

Good luck
 Quoting: Tanoros


Careful on ingesting amanita muscaria unless prepared correctly it's legal but can cause issues. It needs to be decarboxylated in order for conversion of the Ibotenic Acid into Muscimol.





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