The REAL Yom Kippur is 10/07...

where does the difference come from ? Where did you get the 7th ?

Last Edited by luke the duke on 10/03/2022 01:31 AM

The Feast's of YeHoVaH are based off of the actual crescent moon being sighted from the HQ of Mashiyach, Yerushalayim.

The FAKES go by a mathematical calendar...

The new crescent moon was observed by more than two witnesses in Yisrael on 09/27 making that evening Yom Teruah and the 1st Day of the 7th Biblical Month.

Yom Kippur is on the 10th Day of the 7th Biblical Month, and that happens to start when the sun goes down Thursday evening, October 6th and proceeds until the sun goes down October 7th, Friday.

Baruch Haba B'Shem YeHoVaH!!!

Shalom in Yeshua Mashiyach of Netzaret!!!

Eliyah

hmmm....Putins birthday too.

Bible shit never happens tard

Strange days we are living in for sure...

LOL, and yet you will die...BIGGEST PROOF EVER, but there is a way out, it is called The GOOD NEWS...

More is happening than you could ever imagine, you simply can't see because you are not able to.

I am sorry, and really do pray that you change your heart and mind one day.

Shalom in Yeshua Mashiyach of Netzaret!!!

Eliyah



Last Edited by OGEBY on 10/03/2022 01:48 AM

Yom Kippur does NOT always occur on this date, just to clarify that.

interesting, why isn't that held by most then ?

Most religious institutions of man are run by babylon...

Most are under the spell/sorcery of babylon...

Most are NOT even walking as Yeshua and His ORIGINAL taught ones did...

hasatan/devil/dragon of old is currently deceiving the nations...

Rev 20:3  And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 

Shalom...

Eliyah

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" These are forbidden by the Oral Torah (law) only and not by command of Yah in the Torah. (Tosafot, Yoma 7b)

So, what do the scriptures actually say about this day? All the scriptures where the Appointed Time of Yom Kippur is mentioned read the same way so I will only list one:


Leviticus 23:27 “Howbeit on the tenth day of this seventh month is the day of atonement: it shall be a holy convocation unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Jehovah.” (ASV)


The word “afflict” is the portion that is believed to command a fast. The word used for “afflict” is the H word “anah” (H6031). However, there is another H word for fast, tsum (H6684).

The H word “anah” according to all concordances means “to look down upon, abase oneself, bow down, humble oneself, oppress, mortify”. In no concordance does it mean to fast.


One of the best ways to study the Bible is to look at how the word in question is used in every other instance in the Scriptures. The word “anah” is found in the Old Testament 79 times.


The first occurrence is in Genesis 15:13:

“And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be sojourners in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict (anah) them four hundred years; “

I have to ask the question, 'were they going to fast for four hundred years since they were being afflicted (anah)? Absolutely not! Instead we find that the Children of Israel were going to be “humbled” , “bow down or abased” or brought under the authority of the Egyptians. They were going to be their servants.

I could go on and on for 79 verses but I encourage each reader to look up the word for themselves. In all 79 verses that this word “anah” is used it is used when referencing a “humbling” or bringing under the authority of someone or something. It is never used for fasting or to encourage or command a fast. In fact, in the scriptures from Psalms listed above, this humbling ourselves is directly tied to following Yah‘s instructions.

Again, I am not against fasting on Yom Kippur. I just do not believe that it is commanded by Yah. Instead, what is commanded is that we have a Sabbath day and that we make sure that we have "humbled" ourselves to His commandments and pray for ourselves"

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The word afflict in this passage is the H word(anah). This word means to bow down or to humble yourself. Nothing about the word indicates a requirement of a fast. In fact, there is a totally different H word for fast, in the context of “fasting” for religious purposes: צ(tsom). The indication, which will become more clear throughout this study, is that this is a day specifically set aside to humble ourselves and bow before our Master, our Creator, our Father Yahweh. It is interesting that many believe that the return of Messiah Yeshua will be announced at the final trump on The Day of Blowing Shofars and just ten days later is this day solidified by the phrase “every knee will bow and every tongue confess

Since considerable time had passed and the voyage was already dangerous because the Fast had already gone by, Paul kept warning them, telling them, “Men, I can see that the voyage is about to end in disaster and great loss—not only of the cargo and the ship, but also of our lives!”
~Acts 27:9-10 (TLV)

In fact, out of 56 English translations of The Bible I reviewed, 13 do not use the word “fast” but call it The Day of Atonement, The Day of Cleansing, Yom Kippur, or The Day of Reconciliation. In addition to this, the controversial paraphrase translation called The Message Bible says: “We had passed the autumn equinox, so it would be stormy weather from now on through the winter, too dangerous for sailing.”


What if I told you that, contrary to popular religious tradition, perhaps the fast referred to in Acts 27:9 was not at all a reference to Yom Kippur, but to one of a series of four fasts developed through religious tradition?


Thus says Adonai-Tzva’ot, “The fast of the fourth, the fast of the fifth, the fast of the seventh and the fast of the tenth month will become joy, gladness and cheerful moadim. Therefore, love truth and shalom!”
~Zechariah 8:19 (TLV)

Thus said the Lord of Hosts: The fast of the fourth month (in Tamuz), the fast of the fifth month (9 Av), the fast of the seventh month (Tzom Gedalia), and the fast of the tenth month (10 Tevet) shall become occasions for joy and gladness, happy festivals for the House of Judah; but you must love honesty and integrity. (Zechariah 8:19)
Indeed, during the Second Temple era, these days became joyous festivals.

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Last Edited by luke the duke on 10/03/2022 02:32 AM

I would kindly disagree with the author at OurAncientPaths based on what is PLAINLY in the Written Torah.

Even before I knew about Nehemia Gordon, I had the same conclusions about much of what he teaches based on the Written Torah. Of course he is an ACTUAL SPEAKER of the language I cannot say here on GLP, and of course he is a REAL BIBLICAL SCHOLAR.

Check out his work, pray about it and come to your own conclusions.

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Baruch Haba B'Shem YeHoVaH!!!

Shalom...

Eliyah

Is the sky gonna fall down?

moon sighting? what happens if its cloudy?

Amein And Shalom

Someone who knows the truth of the Instructions of The Kingdom


Did you know the sighted Sliver New Moon on the 27th Occulted -The BRANCH - star Spica in the Hand of Betulah the Virgin as seen from Jerusalem this year?

I am still determining if I will be in The Holy City for Sukkot after 2 years away because of past Covid restrictions.

Last chance for travel from the US and by-pass both the National Hillel Calendar High Shabbats of Yom Kippur and The Biblical Aviv Barley Sighted moon High Shabbats is to leave this coming Sunday.

The whole Country of Israel shuts down for Yom Kippur in the Jewsih areas which includes the airport in Tel Aviv.

Anyway thanks for sharing Truth and Chag Sameach for the rest of the Feast Days.

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By default there are only 29.5 days in a moon cycle.

So, you would have to know when the last moon sighting was and know that it cannot be more than 29.5 days from that day.

Shalom and thank you...

Chag Sameach to you and yours until Malchut Elohim is established on earth!!!

Eliyah

BTW

Dr.Nehemiah Gordon a genuinely fine person and a well respected Biblical Hebrew Scholar

Thanks for Sharing his Website.

His research is worth reviewing if you want honest unbiased information on both Ancient Biblical Hebrew and Facts on what Scripture actually says in the original language.

. We had dinner together at My BNB in Jerusalem in 2018 after asking him to get together for coffee. He did not know me from Adam when I asked to meet him in Jerusalem.

He ended up spending most of Sukkot that year with about 80 Messianic Gentiles from all over the world staying in tents in 2 locations in Jerusalem.

Shalom - Peace and Wholeness - to you From YEHOVAH Most High in the Name of the Prince of Peace - Yeshua HaMashiach - The Messiah


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Actually if the New Moon is not sighted for any reason on the 29th day after the previous New Moon sighting it automatically defaults to the 30th day and the new Month starts that evening.


This year the New Moon of the 7th month was to dim .5% and to low to the Horizon 6 deg at Sunset 6:27PM Jerusalem time on the 29th day so it defaulted to the 30th day or the evening of Sept 27th.

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OP, ever been to Israel?

Seriously, it is awesome.

During Sukkot it is amazing in Jerudalem........

There is dancing in the streets of central district every night and songs coming from the windows of most homes.....Rejoicing before The Creator.

Really and amazing experience



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Is there evidence of this in the Torah? At the time of Christ the phrases and saducee were already corrupting the torah by following their own traditions. David was able to compute the new moons in his time.

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end of the fig tree generation too...

Yes, The Gospel of John covers Yeshua at every Pilgrimage Feasts day in Jerusalem...... in Chronological order

Of course you have to know the actual Feast Days then the instructions for keeping the Feasts from the Torah and how to locate the Feasts on the Biblical Aviv Barley - Sighted Sliver New Moon - Calendar and actually read the New Testament...

John 2:2 has Yeshua in Jerusalem for Passover and week of Unleavened Bread just after the the wedding at Cana

John 5:1 Yeshua is in Jerusalem for Shavuot - Feast of Weeks

ohn 7:2 you see Yeshua in Jerusalem again for the 6 day Feast of Sukkot Feast of Booths

These are the 3 Pilgrimage Feasts which require men to go to Jerusalem every year in the proper chronological order as Instructed in the Torah.

disregard the Extra Passover added in John 6:4 where Yeshua and Scribes are the Galilee and not in Jerusalem as required and He is feeding them Leavened bread during what would be the Week of Unleavened Bread. This passage is not in older manuscripts and it causes a blank in the narrative of John from june until April the next year with Yeshua doing absolutely nothing.

His Ministry was only 70 weeks long or 490 days and this is admitted to by most of those who mention it in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd centuries saying His ministry was ABout a year.....the 3.5 year ministry came from Eusubius in the 4th century

Anyway Yes These Feast are in the New Testament and Yeshua is in Jerusalem to Keep them.

The Feasts are also kept by the Apostles as recorded in Acts after His Ascension

and they will be kept in the future during the 1,000 year reign by all nations...Zechariah 14:16,18-19


....Shalom

Oops Sorry I responded to keeping the Feast in the New Testament and you were asking about the New Moon Calendar

They were still Keeping the Sighted New Moon Calenday during the New Testament and Yeshua was keeping it the same day as everyone else was so we know it was doen correctly.


The Pharasees/Rabbis started the change from the Observed New Moon Calendar to the mathematically Calculated Dark Moon calendat after the Destruction of the Temple `in 68-70 AD and was officially completed in 359 AD with the Hillel calendar.


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It's an atheist holiday

OP, I'm electing to do 'a thing' on your interpretation of this date. Are you 100% sure this date of your is correct? Just a yes or now. ANything too complicated is beyond me at present.

I have had a few electronic correspondences with Nehemia, and his understanding of the Written Torah is legitimate.

When I cried out to YaH for truth on October 4th/5th of 2005, that is when my eyes were opened to Torah.

I was not raised in Torah.

Reading the Words of Yeshua in Mattithyahu 5:17-20 is what really changed my life.

Also, I basically trashed ALL of my former beliefs and simply started to read the Ancient Texts in CONTEXT.

Everything I came to learn jived with the Karaite views minus my views that Yeshua was indeed both Mashiyach Ben Yoseph, THE LAMB, and Mashiyach Ben David, THE LION.

Me and my family started to keep Shabbat and observe the Moedim of YeHoVaH to the best of our abilities.

I was not able to partake in Pesach because of brit milah. I tried many different routes to get this done, including reaching out to Mohels and even the surgical hospital route. I could not afford the hospital route and never really got anywhere with Mohels, so at the age of 35 I performed my own brit milah with a device from South Korea. Worked perfectly and now I could celebrate Pesach based on the Torah requirement of needing brit milah.

One of the greatest days in my life was having my only son receiving brit milah by a Mohel on the 8th day!!! May YeHoVaH Bless Rabbi Yehuda Lebovics for this!!!

I know the MOST important words in Hebrew, and currently learning it.

Enough of my rambling...

Shalom to you and yours!!!

Eliyah

YES, 100% Sure...