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The Art of making Colloidal Silver / Silver Ions / Electrically Isolated Silver - How to Measure Ionic Strength - Boost your Immune system

 
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I have started this thread to rationalize the wildly varying information about making colloidal silver. The earliest experimenters used silver coins and 3 9 V batteries. This method, though wonderfully simple, has some problems that we will detail here. The worst thing was that many people added salt to the distilled water to speed up the process. That was the method favored by the "blue man."
I was fortunate as a little kid to have an uncle willing to spend time answering my endless questions. Uncle Bill was a science writer working for the National Institute of Health, and his job was to take the work of scientists and explain it so that it was intelligible to the nonscientist. A little over 15 years ago, when I retired as an electronics design engineer, I visited Uncle Bill in Florida. He was in his 80s but still in good shape and sharp as a tack. I had come across colloidal silver to fix my sinus problems and had become a believer. Not trusting anyone to make it for me, I had, as a hobby, spent a lot of time researching and experimenting with ways to make a potent and stable product. I had designed and arranged to have made a line of laser pointers of high quality. I used to do a lot of lecturing and was annoyed that I could not find a reliable, high-quality laser pointer. I had already begun selling these on eBay with some success. I had almost accidentally discovered that my laser pointers could be a valuable aid in the manufacturing process of colloidal silver.
When I met with uncle Bill, he asked me what I was up to and my plans for my so-called "retirement." I told him about the laser pointers, gave him a couple of them, and then told him about my colloidal silver experience. I intended to set up a small factory and start manufacturing, bottling, and selling it. He replied, "Arnold, I never thought of you as a "snake oil salesman."
I was quite taken aback. This comment was from a man who, throughout my life, had done nothing but encourage me in everything I had attempted. He would never say anything to me in a mean way. He said what he said with the best of intentions. It was time to think things through. I had spent my entire working life, from my teens to the time of my retirement, in electronics. As a technician, field engineer, and design engineer, and finally did original design work in complex systems. Upon reflection, I never had to sell anything. The Air Force told me what they wanted me to do. When I was with NASA, it was obvious what we needed to do, and we just did it. As a consultant to large corporations, it was just a matter of the phone ringing and someone asking for help and organizing my schedule. No one questioned my work or my expertise.
So now I'm going to go out and sell something? Colloidal silver? It helped me a great deal with my sinuses. It quickly healed any infection or burn. Made properly, it could do no harm. Yes, I knew this and that it was true for me. Was I prepared to tell others it will cure something they believe ails them? No, of course not. What are the other people selling colloidal silver telling people? That's the problem. I would inevitably be tarred with the same brush. Am I willing to take this? Is my skin thick enough? Do I feel an irresistible urge to save the world by sprinkling colloidal silver over it? Do I need the money? The answer was no. I decided to go ahead and have the 9999+ wire made. Since I had to buy 2000 ounces to do the deal, I started offering it to people like myself who worried about purity. My offerings of very simple generator kits came about due to so many customers of the silver wire asking for advice on how to use it.
I believe we have covered everything that the do-it-yourselfer will find helpful in setting up to make their colloidal silver. Some areas of refinement will result in a more effective and stable product. Still, these methods are not practical for someone who wishes to use a voltage source, a current limiting device (resistor), and pure silver in pure water. An example of this would be the act of reversing the polarity of the electrodes periodically. That not only evens the wear but also eliminates the hard-to-remove silver oxide build-up on the cathode. It preserves a smooth finish on the electrodes and reduces wastage. The electrodes also become very easy to clean, requiring only a quick wipe with a paper towel instead of a plastic scrub pad. I incorporated a double pole double throw switch in my larger generators to accomplish this, but it's too much to ask people to use. As a result, most users flip the switch from one batch to another, even the wear factor.
Any further efforts to improve the process would involve developing an "expert system" incorporated into an automatic colloidal silver generator. The so-called "automatic" generators on the market are cut off with a timer or a particular voltage level at the electrodes. There are now many people offering "automatic" Colloidal Silver Generators. I find amusing their habit of creating their own "forums" in which their products are favorably reviewed and others' products canned. Why don't they come here and tell us how their electrons have more energy, their ions can jump higher, and their particles are smaller than anyone else's?
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This forum is a great resource. Every other post in the thread is the equivalent of a 5 year old thinking they know how to do calculus. I can tell by reading the other posts that most people here don't even know what they don't know. Colloidal silver has to be made in a certain way and it has to be a certain particle size (within a very small range) for it to be beneficial to the body. Too large and it will become largely useless, too small and it can also damage healthy tissue. Learn what you are actually doing/making before you just go out and buy a glorified 9v battery colloidal silver generator. If your final result has a strong tyndall effect you have done it wrong. Well made colloidal silver will be a nice straw yellow color and have almost zero tyndall effect.
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Very well said.

This thread is so full of disinformation it's difficult where to begin. Your observation regarding lack of tyndall effect is likely the best one to just shoot a hole in the whole thread.

People, go to the forum listed above and learn how to really do this properly.
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Here is a link to a good illustration and explanation of the Tyndall effect:

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Before low-cost lasers became available, makers of colloidal silver used the Tyndall effect with a tightly focused light beam. The many modes of scattering and the exaggerated scattering effect made possible by the laser energy's coherent nature enabled people to get an idea of the particles they were making in the range of up to 1 µm. A laser beam enables the detection of particles beginning in the size of 30 to 40 nm. That allows makers to stop the process before the particles become ever larger and agglomerate to the point where the colloid turns yellow.

We have come a long way since then. We've come to the point where we should stop using the term colloidal. With the silver ions, individual atoms, and small agglomerations of less than 10 nm of charged atoms, we also have a silver solution, not a silver colloid. This change in naming what we are interested in producing would also eliminate the confusion caused by those who include ingredients other than pure water and pure silver. These consist of all sorts of proteins, acids, sugars, and who knows what. That enables some marketers to claim very high PPM values. PPM of what? Who knows? It gives the whole effort a bad name. That may be the biggest problem that we have with the FDA. We need to set some standards. Using the straightforward methods outlined in this thread, we can all reliably make 10 to 15 ppm clear silver solutions. With advanced automated techniques and extended time, we will soon make a 50 ppm clear silver solution. It would be greatly beneficial for us to agree on what we're trying to accomplish.
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colloidal copper is just as good as silver just use quarters
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colloidal copper is just as good as silver just use quarters
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My efforts in helping people to make ionic colloidal silver stem from the fact that it gave me relief from a severe medical problem, repeated sinus infections.
Silver is a benign substance that does not appear to have a well-defined role in our bodies. That is not the case with copper.
Copper is incorporated into a variety of proteins and metalloenzymes, which perform essential metabolic functions; the micronutrient is necessary for the proper growth, development, and maintenance of bone, connective tissue, brain, heart, and many other body organs.
Too much copper can mess you up. If I use my God-given talents for moving electrons around to provide you, for money, a device that you can hurt yourself with, what would that make me? I would say, "an unprincipled jerk."
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“Colloidal silver” is sold with ratings of parts per million “PPM.” That is the ratio of the water’s weight versus the Silver contained and suspended in the water. This measurement is made by the method of atomic absorption spectrophotometer. A sample is burned, and the light emitted includes spectral lines for Silver, the amplitude of which gives an indication of the parts per million, by weight. There is nothing in this method to distinguish between ions, “charged” particles, and uncharged.
It is easy for an unscrupulous colloidal Silver manufacturer to make and advertise “colloidal silver” with strengths of 20, 30, 50, or 500 PPM. All they have to do is generate large particles and coat them with a substance lighter than water to stay in suspension. These solutions will have a color as the larger particles will block out portions of the ambient light, trying to shine through the water. The larger the particles, the more color, beginning with light yellow. There is real evidence to suggest that these solutions will do you harm, leading to a condition called argyria.
As you read through the thread, you will find numerous citations of serious, peer-reviewed studies illustrating silver ions’ superiority in killing bacteria to silver particles. The number of silver ions is measured in terms of electrical conductivity. When this thread started, the only instruments with the ability to measure this were quite expensive. The price of these has come down to a remarkable degree. A device capable of measuring ionic PPM within one or two ppm is now available on eBay for less than $10. If you’re going to make colloidal silver “ionic,” one of these should be the first thing you purchase. The second thing is to make sure that you get genuine 9999 pure silver wire with a certificate of analysis from a reputable source. Other than that, all you need is a voltage source and a resistor to limit the current. A multimeter with the 2 V scale and an additional 1K resistor will allow you to measure your current in microamps. That is all you need to make perfect, clear colloidal Silver. With a certain amount of experimentation, you will be able to make your colloidal Silver of a quality equal to commercial manufacturers’ offerings.
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Whats a resistor ? I just have the standard 3 - 9V batteries connected...is there a resistor within?
Why do you need to measure micro amps ? Isnt voltage sufficient ?

Whats the name of the silver PPM measuring devise so I an look it up on EBAY ? Thanks again and in advance !
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There is no such thing as the “perfect voltage” for making colloidal silver. What we have here is a system consisting of a battery or a wall wart AC adapter (voltage) distilled water between the silver electrodes (resistance) and the resulting current (milliamps). It is important to understand that the voltage and resistance factors determine the amount of current in this system. It is the current in any electrical system that does the actual work. In Michael Faraday’s theory of electrolysis, voltage, and resistance are not mentioned. The number of ions created is a function only of the current.
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In-human activity and pharmacology of homemade silver nanoparticles in highly refractory metastatic head and neck squamous cell cancer.
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In-human activity and pharmacology of homemade silver nanoparticles in highly refractory metastatic head and neck squamous cell cancer.
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Background: Silver nanoparticles (SNPs) show high efficacy as targeted therapy against cancer cell lines, but have never been tested in patient clinical trials. We present the first in-human trial of SNPs in a cancer patient with a dramatic outcome. Methods: Homemade SNP solution is prepared by the patient with online instructions. Current from 3 9-volt batteries is passed across 99.99% pure silver-bar electrodes in distilled water, until the metal content of the water measures 0.09-0.15 parts per million. The manufacturer is a 77-year old male who developed multiple recurrences of nasal cavity squamous cell cancer. Over 2 years he progressed on platinum and taxane based-chemotherapy, radiation twice and 2 surgical resections. Large hepatic and pulmonary metastases were observed on PET, MRI and CT; he was initiated on hospice. Without informing his oncologist he subsequently began manufacturing and consuming the SNP solution. Results: The patient ingested 120 ml daily of the solution for 3 months leading to clinical recovery and complete resolution of cancer at all sites, persisting for 18 months. Electron microscopy of the silver solution revealed bimodal SNP size distributions; 3 & 12 nm. Inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry showed the basal blood silver ion concentrations of 32 ng/g. One hour after ingesting 60 ml of silver solution it rose to 46 ng/g. Urine showed no SNPs. Toxicities were not noted with this silver solution, with no evidence of myelosuppression, liver or kidney abnormalities on repeated testing. The patient underwent reconstructive surgery with excellent wound healing, and his performance status continues to improve. Conclusions: Ingestion of a SNP solution is associated with complete regression of highly refractory head and neck cancer in the absence of other anticancer therapy. Ingesting silver solution causes a noticeable and nearly immediate rise in blood silver concentration. Urinary excretion is not a major path of clearance from the body. Given these dramatic results that may be attributed to SNP in conjunction with strong preclinical data, further patient testing of SNP should be done to confirm its safety and efficacy in head and neck cancer.

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I finished my silver batch and whthin 12 hrs was feeling better. 100% tonight.

I'm using it in a nasal spray, I'm hoping I can rid myself of these sinus problems I've been having.

Tonight I blew out something that was the size of a dime and rock hard from my left side. I'm breathing better than I have in a long time. I still have a blockage somewhere in there and can feel the pressure.

I'll keep at it and stay checked in here.

It's the first time I've used it as a nasal clense.

50ppm and using it about 6-10 times a day, 1 shot.

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Sinusitis is the reason I discovered colloidal silver over 30 years ago. I had been suffering from sinus infections my entire life. My work involved frequent travel all over the world. I would come down with a sinus infection within a few days at each destination. I would seek help from the local medical community, which would result in injecting the latest antibiotic. That would usually clear it up in a few days. I had a long history of trying to remedy this situation. I had seen many ears, nose, and throat specialists and allergists. I even had an SMR (subcutaneous membrane restructure) operation, but I was still subject to infections. I was, and still am, disdainful of “alternative medicine.” I was in Las Vegas on a job and could not work for three days. I had been bedridden with a fever that would break and reappear, drank a lot of water, and “sweat it out.” I was awake in the middle of the night and listening to an all-night radio program that featured guests promoting various “wacko” subjects, from flying saucers to conspiracy theories.
One of these guests was promoting colloidal silver. He sounded more rational than the usual people on this program. Before introducing antibiotics, I had not been aware that silver had been used extensively as an antimicrobial. The following day I called the local health food store and ordered an 8-ounce bottle of the colloidal silver they recommended. They sent it by taxi, and the driver delivered it to my hotel room. It came with a dropper, and I started to flood my sinus cavities with it. Within two hours, all my symptoms disappeared. I was determined never to be without this remedy in the future.
A few months later, I went to the Philippines for what was to be a relatively long-term assignment. I had been using the colloidal silver I bought in Las Vegas, and it was preventing any recurrence of my sinus problems. I was down to my last few ounces, so I called the health food store in Las Vegas and told them I wanted more of the same thing. They said that they had switched to a new, improved version. So I accepted this and ordered. I received a dark, amber-colored substance with a vinegar-like taste, which was very different from what I expected. I decided to find precisely what “colloidal silver” was and how to make it. The process of electrolysis was no mystery to me. On researching the “state-of-the-art” for making this substance, I realized that no electronics expertise had been applied. I bought some pure silver, 999, and proceeded to make my own.
When I started the thread, I intended to “clean up” the subject of making colloidal silver. There exists a great deal of misinformation about making colloidal silver. Some of this was deliberate, propagated by people who wish to sell you a product. They will claim they are the only ones who know how to make that particular “silver cure-all.” The pharmaceutical industry saw silver as a threat to their bottom line. They couldn’t patent silver. They could not prevent individuals from devising methods to suspend particles of silver in water. The earliest processes were grinding the smallest pieces of elemental silver and adding them to water. Fifty years ago, you would find bottles of colloidal silver with instructions on the label to “shake the bottle” before using it. Some manufacturers added nitric acid to the solution, producing silver nitrate, a solution that could be easily misused. This effect was made famous by Rosemary Jacobs, who turned herself blue with it. The pharmaceutical industry became her publicist.

That thread is the only source of information about colloidal silver open to everyone, with no influence from advertisers whatsoever. Anyone involved with colloidal silver, its manufacturer, and its uses, is invited to post.
As you will gather from the thread, I encouraged people to use my manual generators to experiment as I had been doing. The object was to obtain the highest PPM without going yellow. I could do this manually to a degree equal to or better than anything offered as an “automatic” generator.
There is no shortage of snake oil salesmen who will say anything in their quest for a quick buck. The advent of the Internet has given crooks the ability to make an impressive pitch to those unable or unwilling to do the research that unveils their deception. They make wild promises and fabricate endless testimonials. You find nothing but a PO Box when you try to track them down. The pharmaceutical industry makes every effort to dissuade the research community from discussing silver’s usefulness in medicine. They cannot patent silver. Therefore there is no profit potential. They are commercial companies. All that matters to them is their profit. There’s nothing good or bad about this. It’s a simple fact. We have to accept it.
That is why you need to make it yourself and make it properly. Follow the information you will find on this site. The fact is that it will work well for sinus difficulties.

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I use it a lot for skin issues, sometimes for a sore throat.


by a lot, I mean a fingertip sprayer splash on a stubborn skin itch picked up when planting corn.
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Bacterial infections are the second leading cause of death worldwide, accounting for one in eight of all deaths in 2019, the first global estimate of their lethality revealed on Tuesday.

The massive new study, published in the Lancet journal, looked at deaths from 33 common bacterial pathogens and 11 types of infection across 204 countries and territories.

The pathogens were associated with 7.7 million deaths -- 13.6 percent of the global total -- in 2019, the year before the Covid-19 pandemic took off.

That made them the second-leading cause of death after ischaemic heart disease, which includes heart attacks, the study said.

Just five of the 33 bacteria were responsible for half of those deaths: Staphylococcus aureus, Escherichia coli, Streptococcus pneumoniae, Klebsiella pneumoniae and Pseudomonas aeruginosa.

S. aureus is a bacterium common in human skin and nostrils but behind a range of illnesses, while E. coli commonly causes food poisoning.

The study was conducted under the framework of the Global Burden of Disease, a vast research programme funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation involving thousands of researchers across the world.

"These new data for the first time reveal the full extent of the global public health challenge posed by bacterial infections," said study co-author Christopher Murray, the director of US-based Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation.

"It is of utmost importance to put these results on the radar of global health initiatives so that a deeper dive into these deadly pathogens can be conducted and proper investments are made to slash the number of deaths and infections."

The research points to stark differences between poor and wealthy regions.

In Sub-Saharan Africa, there were 230 deaths per 100,000 population from the bacterial infections.

That number fell to 52 per 100,000 in what the study called the "high-income super-region" which included countries in Western Europe, North America and Australasia.

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There are increasing reports of people using EIS intravenously. If used in this manner, we must have a method of making sure that there are no particles that, although not visible to the naked eye, are still in the solution. Such particles can only be detected with a laser beam. Using a red laser and sweeping it around the solution was not an adequate method. I can now offer a green laser (green is about 50 times as visible to the human eye as red) with a lens that generates a flat plane of laser energy. If you shone this pointer on the wall, it would draw a straight line.
Here are pictures of a 1 gallon per day solution without filtering or settling time.
The red pointer:
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The green line pointer:
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The trail of the art of making colloidal silver led us to this point. Our objective has been to create a solution containing as many silver ions as possible for a given volume of water. It is a value measured in ppm “parts per million.” A TDS meter measures PPM but in salt ions. A more scientifically acceptable method is a proper conductivity meter. A conductivity meter will give a reading in microsiemens. It is a happy coincidence that one Microsiemen reading on a conductivity meter in a distilled water and silver ions solution will indicate a PPM of 1 ppm of ionic silver.
I found this to be valid 30 years ago when I started experimenting with making colloidal silver. The conductivity meter that you will see on the Generator instructions on the Atlasnova website was made in California and cost over $1000 at that time. Since then, the Chinese have been able to produce small devices that, while not as accurate as mine, are very useful and cost less than $10.
Now back to the Vortex of confusion. In our discussion of do-it-yourself methods of making colloidal silver, we speak of simple, direct current circuits involving only the factors of voltage, resistance, and current. When we start discussing terms such as conductance (microsiemens), we enter a world of AC and network theory. The objective of this thread must remain to encourage people to make their colloidal silver. In doing so, they will not harm themselves. Exaggerated claims will not mislead them. They will not be ripped off by those hustlers, who produce a torrent of words and say nothing real.
Let's try to summarize what we have learned so far about "the art of making colloidal silver". The 39 volt battery and silver coins method will produce something that could be called "colloidal silver". Even with tap water and add salt. People have done this and some will still swear by it. And because of the fact that silver is so powerful as an antimicrobial agent, it will be effective in some instances. People have also turned blue doing this. A few simple rules correct this situation and produce a far more effective form of "colloidal silver".
Rule one: Allow nothing but pure water (distilled) and pure silver in the process.
Rule two: Have some way to check the purity of the water before you start the process.
Rules three: Have some way to monitor the current.
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When I started experimenting with making colloidal silver, ionic colloidal silver, a test instrument that measured microsiemens accurately cost thousands of dollars. In the last few years, conductivity meters have become available to do this for under $20. They give us the ability to test colloidal silver. The other way they contested is to make sure that it is clear. Ionic colloidal silver should always be clear.

Here is an EC meter that will read in microsiemens. This will give you a reading of ionic silver PPM directly on a one-for-one basis.

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Regardless of Shills, cognitive dissonance makes it very difficult to believe something so simple could be so medically revolutionary. Even though the knowledge of the antibiotic qualities Silver provides has been around for centuries.

I use it re-actively and with great success for cold and flu symptoms, food poisoning or diarrhea. Topically it has improved wound healing time (my own assessment), cleared up boils and carbuncles on my children, and I believe it accelerated the recovery of one of my children having sever MRSA. For me it cure my bout of epididymitis.

Of course after using it for over 20 years, I'm surprised I haven't turned blue, with all the warnings I have seen ;)
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I think it is important to make sure we have our definitions straight:

Applying electricity to silver electrodes in distilled water creates ionic silver, and if done incorrectly silver oxide.

Reducing ionic silver back into elemental metal particles makes colloidal silver.

By far the most bioactive form is ionic (Ag+) because it is the positive charge that kills microbes. Ag+ is highly reactive. The downside is that it will react with chlorides in the digestive system and be made ineffective. This is why people ingest the colloid, to try to get around that limitation.
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That is another reason that we need to strive to produce a high ionic value in making our colloidal silver. Single ions will be absorbed sublingually before they ever get to the stomach. If you have a problem with food poisoning, then go ahead and drank a bunch of stuff. It would be a good idea to have a probiotic after you've cleared up your stomach problem. But if you're taking it for sinus problems or to heal a cut or burn you want the ions, not big chunks of silver hanging around for no good reason.
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It really seems to be good for particular things.

I wasn’t really convinced until I saw it clear up a problem where nothing else worked. Embarrassingly I forgot what that was but I’ll remember.
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It's been a little over a month and my sinus are still clear. I'm using 50ppm nasal spray bout 3=4 times a day.


I've had this sinus issue for 20 years and now I can breathe again.

With no sinus pressure it has relieved the neuralga pain in my face by 80% and made me feel like a person for the first time in years.

silver babay, yeah.
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Question about the water, I have a "Zero Water" water filter and it comes with a PPM meter, with a new filter the water comes out 0.00 PPM, the tap water going in was 150 PPM.

Is this the same as distilled water? Has anyone measured the PPM of distilled water?
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5 stars, a bump and some green for OP! peacehf
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It's been a little over a month and my sinus are still clear. I'm using 50ppm nasal spray bout 3=4 times a day.


I've had this sinus issue for 20 years and now I can breathe again.

With no sinus pressure it has relieved the neuralga pain in my face by 80% and made me feel like a person for the first time in years.

silver babay, yeah.
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Glad to hear. I have been making my own CS for a while now and use it daily. I can't say enough about it.
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Question about the water, I have a "Zero Water" water filter and it comes with a PPM meter, with a new filter the water comes out 0.00 PPM, the tap water going in was 150 PPM.

Is this the same as distilled water? Has anyone measured the PPM of distilled water?
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The distilled water I buy measures about 4 ppm and from what I've read up to 8 ppm is still acceptable for making CS but of course you want it as close to zero as possible.

I haven't used it yet but I did buy a distilled water maker from walmart dotcom and it seems legit. It was around 80 bucks.
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That is another reason that we need to strive to produce a high ionic value in making our colloidal silver. Single ions will be absorbed sublingually before they ever get to the stomach. If you have a problem with food poisoning, then go ahead and drank a bunch of stuff. It would be a good idea to have a probiotic after you've cleared up your stomach problem. But if you're taking it for sinus problems or to heal a cut or burn you want the ions, not big chunks of silver hanging around for no good reason.
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Thanks for all the information
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So what is this stuff really useful for ?
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So what is this stuff really useful for ?
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Infections, cold, flu. the list is long but it does work.





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