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The Clearest Indicators of the Timing of Christ’s Return: The Trumpets

 
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I grew up in hardcore Pre-trib-Rapture country. I was the preacher’s kid who memorized the entire books of Ephesians, Philippians, Hebrews, Jonah, and many chapters of other books to quote/act aloud for the entertainment and inspiration of my religious peers.

The memory of me then makes me laugh aloud now. I don’t regret all the time I spent in the Word, but I can tell you I didn’t learn much until I left all the dogma behind and sat down with God alone and asked in humility that he would teach me truth - apart from everything I’d grown up believing.

It was Jesus who said, “You're blind and you don't even know it.” John 9: (Read the whole story, it’s hilarious.)

I’m not saying I’m a guru of anything (well, maybe of marinades) but, I do believe God has given me a gift.

When I bring him a question, God will give me guidance on where to look in his Word for the answer. The massive amounts of memorization I did has given me a subconscious data-bank of vocabulary to “search.” From here, the answers are found.

To the point: I asked God to show me the answer to “when is the Rapture?” And possibly, “Is there a Rapture, or_____?”


The direction I heard in response was “study Trumpets.”


Here comes an extremely abridged version:
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To make an epically long study shorter, I’m going to just tell you what I found. However, please do the Trumpet study yourself if you doubt me.


The Background
Trumpets were made of rams horns back in the day. They were used similarly to the old use of the town bell tower.

The trumpet was blown for celebrations such as holidays and victories over enemies. The watchmen on the walls of the cities had trumpets to blow to warn those within and without the walls to take cover and arm themselves when the enemy was approaching. Armies had trumpets to blow to signal the charge or a change of tactics.

The trumpet blower gained the attention of everyone, so that vital information could be conveyed so the hearer could change his actions for self-preservation.

There was a feast day in Israel called Yom Teruah, the Feast of Trumpets. It was a day to shout, sing and blow the trumpet in celebration and thanksgiving. It was remotely similar to our 4th of July celebrations in the US.

Moving on to the Meat...
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Interesting..

You have my attention OP.
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Trump(t) = little horn

Read your bible again.
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Interesting..

You have my attention OP.
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Mine too. That's a subject I never got a solid answer on when I'd ask whatever pastor I had at the time.

Keep going, please.
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Interesting..

You have my attention OP.
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Mine too. That's a subject I never got a solid answer on when I'd ask whatever pastor I had at the time.

Keep going, please.
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takeheed blackcat For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

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Do the letters HWA mean anything to you?
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Sorry for disappearing. I got banned. I am the OP. I will continue with this thing God showed me about Trumpets (at my husband's request, lol.)



Moving on:
Matthew, one of the 12 closest followers of Christ, records Jesus’ answer to the big question,

Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Jesus answer is densely informational. Please read the entire chapter of Matthew 24. But to sum up right now, he lists a number of events such as:

War, famine, earthquakes, increased wickedness, the sun and moon darkened, the truth going out to the whole world, family members betraying one another, men claiming to be Christ-returned, (all of which he refers to as “the tribulation of those days”) and finally:

Mat 24:30, 31
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all (banned word) peoples of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


My next question was: WHICH TRUMPET is blown right before we see Christ coming to gather us to himself?

Next passage...

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The next Trumpet occurs is in 1 Corinthians. In chapter 15 Paul is teaching about what happens to people who die, having believed in Christ Jesus, and also what happens to those who live until Christ returns:

1 Co 15:51 - 52
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep (die), but we shall all be changed,

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


Note the specification: the LAST Trumpet. When is the last trumpet?


Drum rolls precede trumpets....
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When is the last trumpet which heralds the return of Christ and the gathering of his people?

It is spoken of in Revelation 10 and 11. John is taken to see these days referred to as “the tribulation” and “the wrath of God” and “the day of trouble.”

He is introduced to Seven Angels who each have a trumpet to blow, heralding a new event, or series of events.

The Seven Trumpets cover the same ground Jesus did in Matthew 24, describing the events we have all come to know as “the Great Tribulation.”

The Last and Seventh Trumpet heralds this event:


Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets…
Rev 11:15 - 19

And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.



This is the last trumpet
mentioned in the Bible. It is the event for which we are waiting, when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of Jesus Christ.

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This concludes the use of “Trumpets” in the Bible. However, the following chapter in Revelation (12) tells a story-within-the-story about a group of people known as “the woman who gave birth to the man-child who was received into heaven.”

Christ was born to a group of people who believe the words of God and have dedicated themselves to obeying him. Not just descendants of Abraham, for his lineage includes Ruth and Rahab… women who believed God so emphatically, they risked everything to follow him.

Mary, the mother of Christ was one of those believing people. The man-child was received into Heaven, the woman remained behind to be persecuted by the serpent/Satan.

Revelation 12 tells the story of her rescue to “the wilderness” where she is fed and cared for three and a half years.

I have taken the time to share with you this thing that God showed me for this reason: The Seventh Trumpet - or the Last Trumpet - has six preceding trumpets. You can read the events of the Six Trumpets to see what we are yet to experience before Christ returns.

If you think you can see, your eyes will not be healed. You may not see the moment of rescue that is offered to the holy people if you are waiting for an event that will take place on the other side of our Deliverance.

This is for those who are willing to see. God bless and keep you. I am SO looking forward to meeting you after the Last Trumpet sounds.
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Do the letters HWA mean anything to you?
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No, what do they mean to you?
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Nice thread OP! Good job my friend. No rapture, Christ returns to rule from Jerusalem. Many Christians will die in tribulation but some will partake of the first resurrection for the millenium reign in Jerusalem. A small portion sealed by God YHVH will survive tribulation, but just like there were many martyr's in the building of the church, there certainly will be many also in the days of the antichrists war against the servants of Christ.

The rapture will likely play into the great deceptions leading many proclaimed Christisns to accept the antichrist. The illuminati project bluebeam stuff is about projecting a false return of Jesus and rapture in the sky to bring in the antichrist and deceive most including Christians to worship him. Nasa has been installing satelites and projection equip for countless years for the big show. Chem trails are also putting materials into the sky for the great deception.

They will claim there was some misinterpretation of things and that the antichrist is "the christ" saviour of all religions, unifying man under one religion under the antichrist. Most luke warm christians will fall for the lie
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So glad you came back after the ban.

Thank you..

And um, can you please spell it out for me super clear?

I don't understand everything you're intimating.
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Nice thread OP! Good job my friend. No rapture, Christ returns to rule from Jerusalem. Many Christians will die in tribulation but some will partake of the first resurrection for the millenium reign in Jerusalem. A small portion sealed by God YHVH will survive tribulation, but just like there were many martyr's in the building of the church, there certainly will be many also in the days of the antichrists war against the servants of Christ.

The rapture will likely play into the great deceptions leading many proclaimed Christisns to accept the antichrist. The illuminati project bluebeam stuff is about projecting a false return of Jesus and rapture in the sky to bring in the antichrist and deceive most including Christians to worship him. Nasa has been installing satelites and projection equip for countless years for the big show. Chem trails are also putting materials into the sky for the great deception.

They will claim there was some misinterpretation of things and that the antichrist is "the christ" saviour of all religions, unifying man under one religion under the antichrist. Most luke warm christians will fall for the lie
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Thank you for taking the time to read and absorb the study! I agree with your thoughts above for the most part, but I would add to it a few thoughts:

There will be some whose hearts are pure who are martyred for Jesus. They will "love not their lives unto the death" with purpose and obedience to Christ.

Some may also die who are simply young/immature in their understanding, but are nevertheless believing and upright.

There are a few defining traits of the holy people: they hear his voice and follow, they love his word, and they love one another.

Praying for all my siblings in Christ...
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I heard it in 2015 . The same sound on yt vids from all over the world .
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The sky trumpets already occurred. Wake up.
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So glad you came back after the ban.

Thank you..

And um, can you please spell it out for me super clear?

I don't understand everything you're intimating.
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You're welcome. I use blueletterbible.org to study. You can search the word "trumpet" and read the events of the trumpets in Revelation to have more clarity, but I will try to summarize my understanding as well:

The "Tribulation" is already begun. The holy people are still here, and will be until most of the events spoken of in Revelation have come to pass.

Like Noah and his family, those who are listening and obeying, will be saved through the judgement in a safe place where they will be fed and cared for.

Because of Jesus repeated advice to "flee to the mountains" when you see the signs of the end, I believe that our haven of refuge will be in the mountains.

In fact, I believe there will be more than one haven, maybe one in whatever mountains are nearest you. Pray, listen, and God will show you where to go.

In Revelation, 1 Corinthians, and Matthew, the Trumpet describes an event in which the whole world sees Christ coming in the sky. It is described as lightening stretching from the east to the west, the clouds rolling back, the sky tearing open and every creature being aware of this event.

It is said that those who have died in Christ will rise to meet him.

Those who are alive and remain will rise to meet him.

He is returning. We meet him and then stay with him as he returns.

At this point, in Revelation, perhaps simultaneous to our rise into the air, a massive Earthquake, greater than the world has ever known tears the Earth open. There is lightening, hailstones of fire, voices in heaven, and then the battle...

We are the army that accompanies Jesus to the battle of Armageddon against those who have made themselves the enemies of God by their actions. Our mortal flesh is changed into immortal bodies "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye."

This is the moment when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of God and Christ. This is why we pray "your kingdom come, your will be done on Earth as it is Heaven."

We are the hunters who will seek out the pedophile handlers of humanity hiding in their tunnels from the face of God. We will end their reign of terror with swift execution.

And Christ will reign on Earth. The Kingdom of Heaven will be on Earth for a 1000 years. And we will see it.
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Jesus Christ wont be getting back, ever.
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I heard it in 2015 . The same sound on yt vids from all over the world .
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The sky trumpets already occurred. Wake up.
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I've heard those videos too, and the sounds are super cool. Maybe they are trumpets, I don't know.

But, having studied trumpets in the Bible, I know that they are blown to attract your attention so that a message can be conveyed, so that the hearer can find safety or change his actions in some way.


In a way, this post is a trumpet for those who are listening.


Anytime God catches your attention, listen, and make the appropriate changes.
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The Last Trump

Revelation 11:15

And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.

Revelation 3:3 (Those that do not watch will no know the hour of His return, and He will come upon them as a thief, pre-tribbers will have died by the sword by then, so they will not know)

The day and hour that is not known in every instance that it is found is prefixed by Heaven and Earth will pass away, but My words shall never pass away, of that day and hour no man knows, HE is NOT SPEAKING about His Second Coming.

The Kingdoms of this world become the Kingdoms of YESHUA at the last trump

The last Trump will occur on YOM KIPPUR in a Jubilee year

Leviticus 25:9

‘Then you shall cause the trumpet of the Jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement you shall make the trumpet to sound throughout all your land.
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Leviticus 25:10

‘And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a Jubilee for you; and each of you shall return to his possession, and each of you shall return to his family.

Notice what happens, each person has their possessions returned to them

What happens at the Last Trump, The Kingdoms of this World return to Adonai YESHUA Mashiach

The same thing happening, the Last Trump on YHWH's calendar, matches PERFECTLY in theme and precept for anyone that has the Spirit of God in them, easy to see.
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For those of you who...
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Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study

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Thread: After the Tribulation: Revisited - NO Pre-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Christian Theology

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Nice thread OP I always worked it out as after last Trump.


That having been said, this is all based upon stuff Saul said right?
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Two wings of a great eagle = a cloud and smoke by day, and the shininging of a flaming fire by night.


Isaiah 4:5
And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of Mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence.

Exodus 13:21

And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:

Exodus 19:4

Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto Myself.

Revelation 12:14

And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Ezekiel 20:34
And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you Face to face.

Luke 21:36

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before The Son of Man.

John 17:15

I pray not that thou shouldest take them outof the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from--(Ek autos Tereo) the evil.

Revelation 3:10

Because thou hast kept the word of My patience, I also will keep thee from-(Ek se Tereo) the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.


The destiny of pre-tribbers that say they will not have to confront the evil, nor will it go before them.

Amo 9:10

All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.


Proverbs 10:30
The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.

days of noah and lot, the wicked were taken, they remained.

Into the wilderness

Unto Myself
Face to face
Stand Before the Son of Man

cliff notes version
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Nice thread OP I always worked it out as after last Trump.


That having been said, this is all based upon stuff Saul said right?
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King Saul?
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What you're interpreting is Gods 'Return to the Earth' to possess and rule it again.

You're missing the part about the 'Feast of Tabernacles' where he calls those complaining up with the 'Silver Trumpet' (the trumpet used for assembling the people), where they hide for 7 years, until he calls them for 'Assembly' and then 'returns to earth with his saints' and his foot touches the earth and he reigns for 1000 years.


Tuesday (traditional Israelite wedding day) Oct 11th 2022 is the actual Feast of Tabernacles.


So lets see how things go on Wednesday and go from there.
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Also, the 'last trump' is the last trumpet blown during the Fall holidays.

So its the 'last trump' and its a silver trumpet.

Fall feasts are fulfilled in reverse:

1. Feast of Tabernacles = Rapture (and Rev 18 nuke war) Oct 11th 2022.

2. Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) = 3 years after the Rapture, God starts pouring out the bowls of wrath.

3. Rash Hashanah (Feast of Trumpets) = The day that the Trumpet of God is blown and he assembles his people in heaven and returns to the earth with them to rule for 1000 years.
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Nice thread OP I always worked it out as after last Trump.


That having been said, this is all based upon stuff Saul said right?
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King Saul?
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The tax collector.
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Ezekiel 20:35
And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.

1 Corinthians 10:1
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

Paul instructs former Gentiles Ephesians 2:11-12 that it was their fathers that came out in the Egyptian exodus, and proceeds to warn them not to make the same mistakes they did.

Jeremiah 16:14
Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

15
But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.

Micah 7:15
According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things.

16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf.

Jeremiah 30:7
Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.

And He shall reign over the House of Jacob forever. Luke 1:33

12 gates into the new Jerusalem, each one is named after a tribe of Israel.

Those that keep His commandments will have the right to enter the city through one of those gates.

no gentiles allowed.

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