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Modern culture and the inevitable decline of dating

 
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Who do these demented open relationship whores think their Dna is special enough to produce kids? There's 9 billion mostly worthless polygamous losers already.
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Takes a license to operate a vehicle, but no license required to reproduce and release your 18 year potential scourge on society who also will be a replica broken version. SICK WORLD.
Go cock carousel and adopt a kid. At least you will be able to have your fun and contribute to relieving some of the brokenness already present. Just because you have perfectly straight teeth , a fat arse, a new hairdo and your eyebrows arched and nails done weekly doesn't qualify you for reproduction.
Skanks everywhere! When will it end??

I'm over it.
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I’m a 26 yr old woman searching for the father of my future children. You hear it all the time coming from men: modern American women are useless, confrontational, masculine and promiscuous. The feedback might be well deserved, but the men aren’t doing much better in one regard. My single most important qualifier in a man is if he’d make a good father.

Ideally, he is:

A good teacher to our children, can fix stuff around the house, has the know how and encyclopedic tidbits of knowledge that make dads awesome

He is stern and even tempered. Not afraid of correcting or disciplining them (not physically)
/snip
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006985


“Not physically”?

You just sunk your own boat, lady. The reason you are having so much difficulty in finding a proper husband is that in recent years most children are NOT physically disciplined in their formative years. No matter how much your “feels” might abhor it, that is what is needed and required to turn out men worthy of the name.

Enjoy your future cats. And loneliness.
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I disagree. Physical boundaries are needed but unneeded aggression towards a child can be a negative impact on the kids development since they cant properly process. Have you learned anything from your adult peers?

Some of us here use our heads and we didn't need to be beat into shape.
 Quoting: McMarshal


Who’s talking about unneeded aggression? Most children need to be physically disciplined at some point in their lives due to behavioral issues that do not respond to other measures. It’s been this way throughout human history.

Oh wait, you’re telling me that your way is better, right? Just like socialism is great, it just hasn’t ever been done correctly, right? Look around. See the fruits of your “compassion” and “forbearance”? A culture on its last legs, with man-children running amok.

Nice work, Skippy.
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The so called experts, messed society. Dr. Seuss created this mess.
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I’m a 26 yr old woman searching for the father of my future children. You hear it all the time coming from men: modern American women are useless, confrontational, masculine and promiscuous. The feedback might be well deserved, but the men aren’t doing much better in one regard. My single most important qualifier in a man is if he’d make a good father.

Ideally, he is:

A good teacher to our children, can fix stuff around the house, has the know how and encyclopedic tidbits of knowledge that make dads awesome

He is stern and even tempered. Not afraid of correcting or disciplining them (not physically)

Has a solid moral compass that he abides by

Orderly and conscientious

I also have a lot to offer and I’m constantly working on ways to improve myself and my health/appearance, mindset, etc. I would even allow him to sleep with other women if he kept it under wraps and provided for our kids.

I feel like I don’t belong in today’s timeline, however. I crave a strong, old school man. My generation’s version of that is a caricature of masculinity: hyper ‘alphas’; ‘pick up artists’, status obsessed; consumerist; metrosexual; city rats; meatheads.

On the other hand, the ‘Nice Guys’ who wouldn’t hurt a fly are spineless, porn ridden, non stop gamers with no real life ambition or desire to have children because they want to watch Marvel movies in their spare time.
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you lost it at physical discipline, which was early.

you can practically chart the end of corporal punishment with the rise of rates of incarceration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83861466


THIS IS NOT THE TRUTH AT ALL!

I have 3 children and a step son.

None were beaten. They turned out fine. Working

men! And my daughter is also a good worker.

None ever got in trouble with any authority figure.

I taught them to understand their place.

You DO NOT have to beat kids to make them understand.

While married we did pretty good for a while.

It lasted 15 years.

Of course, we weren't rich or anything.

I did have setbacks after my job was eliminated.

Then I divorced their mom because I had to and we had some

rough times afterwards. They understood the situation.

Poverty does not mean you lose your understanding

of 'treat others as you want to be treated'.

We hit that part and it was rough, but they never turned

to crime or any thing like that.

They are well balanced individuals living their life.

I'm proud of who they are and am still encouraging them

to do better for themselves.

Just thought I'd throw this in...
 Quoting: 1guynAz


Good moral values saved your family.

clappa
That´s what the US homes have been lacking for a long time.
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I would even allow him to sleep with other women if he kept it under wraps and provided for our kids.
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wtfdid
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Your reaction is valid, but I’d make the sacrifice for an ideal wealthy man or Chad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006985


Fixed it for you.

Explain to me why women dress like whores (booty shorts/skin tight apparel/yoga pants) in public?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84336138


Because the clothes they sell are like that plus all the plastics they sell to insert so they look sexy... the LOW IQs think we want that and well one thing is going to bed, and another one veeeery different is marriage material. They stay long with bed partners and they get old and become damaged goods and when they want to marry they are toooo old for that. So they become feminist cat ladies who hate men and stay using the same vibrator.
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wtfdid
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Your reaction is valid, but I’d make the sacrifice for an ideal wealthy man or Chad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006985


Fixed it for you.

Explain to me why women dress like whores (booty shorts/skin tight apparel/yoga pants) in public?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84336138


Because the clothes they sell are like that plus all the plastics they sell to insert so they look sexy... the LOW IQs think we want that and well one thing is going to bed, and another one veeeery different is marriage material. They stay long with bed partners and they get old and become damaged goods and when they want to marry they are toooo old for that. So they become feminist cat ladies who hate men and stay using the same vibrator.
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+100
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And you say spineless is unattractive right?
 Quoting: McMarshal



Aren’t men polygamous by nature? I feel like it would sweeten the deal since so many are afraid of long term commitment. The point being is that I would do everything within reason to make him happy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006985


Honey,

The US society is broken from so much abuse, drugs, porn, lack of morality, feminism and especially, divorce. I recommend you seek the father of your children in a foreigner who is NOT vaccinated. Then you will have better chances at success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84337458


U get it! I agree with mostly all you present.
The thing about foreigners, however, is they tend to emulate the U.S. culture or are weirdos ot just plain common sense stupid.
She should continue what's she's been doing...wear skin tight clothing and solicit herself to the top 15%. It's the American way.
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I am too old to include myself in the count, but there are billions who fight to not emulating the US and their sad idea of progress, who are young and who can start a family. Being NOT vaccinated is needed, though. A must.
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I would even allow him to sleep with other women if he kept it under wraps and provided for our kids.
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wtfdid
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Your reaction is valid, but I’d make the sacrifice for an ideal wealthy man or Chad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006985


Fixed it for you.

Explain to me why women dress like whores (booty shorts/skin tight apparel/yoga pants) in public?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84336138


Like this woman?????
[link to vidmax.com (secure)]
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10/07/2022 02:23 AM

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Good luct trying to get decent dating advice these days. Google and most other search engines censor results so they only lead back to MSM sources.
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Good luck to OP, she knows what she wants and is willing to compromise to get it. It’s unfortunate to be young and with a good head on your shoulders in this day and age.

I wish better for the youth but thus far, humanity is on the path of extinction
Sic Semper Tyrannis.

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IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
WAR IS PEACE.
STAYING APART BRINGS US TOGETHER." NWO Mantra
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10/07/2022 02:36 AM
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I lost you when you allow him to sleep with other women. No morals ! You won’t find a good man with that mindset.
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wtfdid
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Your reaction is valid, but I’d make the sacrifice for an ideal wealthy man or Chad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006985


Fixed it for you.

Explain to me why women dress like whores (booty shorts/skin tight apparel/yoga pants) in public?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84336138


Like this woman?????
[link to vidmax.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84337458


All of the original points asserted, in 13 seconds.
Yes.
Needs a stake to burn at.
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10/07/2022 02:46 AM
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A few qualifying questions:

1) are you fat?
2) IQ?
3) Degree of education
4) Full time mom in the plans?
5) Covid or other vaccinations?
6) Cook or any household skills?
7) Realistically, how much do you spend a month?
8) How much would you LIKE to spend?
9) How many people do you consider true friends in your life?
10) Has a man ever ejaculated in you (unprotected sex)
11) Any genetic defects in your bloodline?
12) What happened to dad? Traumatic?
13) Any bi-polar tendencies?
14) Regular periods?
15) Any major health issues?
16) 1-10 how attractive are you?
17) Siblings? How many and what do they do?
18) Aside from kids, what is your goal in life?
19) How important is sex to you aside from procreation?
20) What is the most valuable thing you own?

That's a start...more later
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I lost you when you allow him to sleep with other women. No morals ! You won’t find a good man with that mindset.
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Polygamy is a common, accepted, natural order. No one asked you, Cat Lady.
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A few qualifying questions:

1) are you fat?
2) IQ?
3) Degree of education
4) Full time mom in the plans?
5) Covid or other vaccinations?
6) Cook or any household skills?
7) Realistically, how much do you spend a month?
8) How much would you LIKE to spend?
9) How many people do you consider true friends in your life?
10) Has a man ever ejaculated in you (unprotected sex)
11) Any genetic defects in your bloodline?
12) What happened to dad? Traumatic?
13) Any bi-polar tendencies?
14) Regular periods?
15) Any major health issues?
16) 1-10 how attractive are you?
17) Siblings? How many and what do they do?
18) Aside from kids, what is your goal in life?
19) How important is sex to you aside from procreation?
20) What is the most valuable thing you own?

That's a start...more later
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Great pre-screen checklist.
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10/07/2022 02:58 AM
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If You would allow him to sleep with other women YOU have poor judgment and no morals. No relationship cam be successful on that basis. You don't even understand what a marriage is. What the hell would you even be teaching the future children you probably shouldn't be having?

Do better. Aim higher. Perhaps your low moral standards are part of the reason you are having trouble finding a man. Why would you want to share your husband with other women? Are you THAT desperate?
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I lost you when you allow him to sleep with other women. No morals ! You won’t find a good man with that mindset.
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Polygamy is a common, accepted, natural order. No one asked you, Cat Lady.
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Polygamy is only natural because men can use physical force in primitive societies to establish it. Any where it is practiced it is always a disaster and destructive. There are so many examples in the bible alone of how the wives of polygamists always plot against each other and seek primacy for their children against the unity of the family. There are so many examples of this. This is true in other cultures that practice polygamy such as the old Turkish sultans. I am referring to examples you can go and read about in history as these are heavily documented as opposed to private stories.

Polygamy is like human sacrifice. An outdated and destructive concept from an estimate and more primitive time.
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Incidentally I don't know if you care about love at all but if you love a man, you do not want him to sleep with other women. And a man who truly loves a woman does not want her to sleep with other men.

You're not looking for a husband. You're looking for a Master. That will not end up well for you. And it's an incredibly poor role model for those kids you write about.
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I would even allow him to sleep with other women if he kept it under wraps and provided for our kids.
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wtfdid
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Your reaction is valid, but I’d make the sacrifice for an ideal man.
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I'm your ideal, but I'm a bit older than you are.
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Ideally, he is:

A good teacher to our children, can fix stuff around the house, has the know how and encyclopedic tidbits of knowledge that make dads awesome

He is stern and even tempered. Not afraid of correcting or disciplining them (not physically)

Has a solid moral compass that he abides by

Orderly and conscientious

I also have a lot to offer and I’m constantly working on ways to improve myself and my health/appearance, mindset, etc. I would even allow him to sleep with other women if he kept it under wraps and provided for our kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006985



Well, guys like that don't come off-the-shelf I'm afraid. It takes a man and a woman together to achieve a family like that. You need to build him up, support him, encourage him, sometimes force him, and be there for him. PLEASE oh please remember 1 BJ per month, all the way. Not more, not less, just 1 per month. And otherwise sex whenever either one of you feels like it. Also when you're angry with each others.

Even-tempered is not always a good thing, expressing emotions even in an explosive way is sometimes needed to clear the air - and it also shows both are serious about their relationship. Not to mention guys who tend to be calm all the time might not get upset often, but when they do, they explode usually ending up in front-page news.

Not to mention raising kids is not an exact science, kids come with different personalities, different bodies, different issues, illnesses, addictions, whatnot. You never know what you're gonna get, no matter how good your intentions and efforts might be, you will still end up crying in the corner "I've failed miserably as a mother and a wife". And then get up, and keep trying. And your future husband will do the same (to be clear - replace "mother and a wife" with "father and a husband"). Life is hard.

And then don't forget how SERIOUS marriage really is. It's all fun, roses and games when it starts - but it will end only through 2 ways: a bitter devastating divorce or a heartbreaking death. Let that sink in. And did I remember to tell you life is HARD?

Of course a completely separate problem is to find a 20-30 yo man nowadays who is able to fix stuff and do stuff with his hands. When I was a teenager I used to fix cars, knock down big trees and make firewood out of them, built a house with my dad, whatever broke we fixed it.

Kids nowadays are mostly taught the secret art of wasting their time with their cellphone.

Having said all that, I'm so happy to hear there are still "old-fashioned" women out there. If this was 20 years ago, I'd ask for your phone number.


Good luck with your search.

hf
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Most men are just extra children, good luck.
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Ideally, he is:

A good teacher to our children, can fix stuff around the house, has the know how and encyclopedic tidbits of knowledge that make dads awesome

He is stern and even tempered. Not afraid of correcting or disciplining them (not physically)

Has a solid moral compass that he abides by

Orderly and conscientious

I also have a lot to offer and I’m constantly working on ways to improve myself and my health/appearance, mindset, etc. I would even allow him to sleep with other women if he kept it under wraps and provided for our kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006985



Well, guys like that don't come off-the-shelf I'm afraid. It takes a man and a woman together to achieve a family like that. You need to build him up, support him, encourage him, sometimes force him, and be there for him. PLEASE oh please remember 1 BJ per month, all the way. Not more, not less, just 1 per month. And otherwise sex whenever either one of you feels like it. Also when you're angry with each others.

Even-tempered is not always a good thing, expressing emotions even in an explosive way is sometimes needed to clear the air - and it also shows both are serious about their relationship. Not to mention guys who tend to be calm all the time might not get upset often, but when they do, they explode usually ending up in front-page news.

Not to mention raising kids is not an exact science, kids come with different personalities, different bodies, different issues, illnesses, addictions, whatnot. You never know what you're gonna get, no matter how good your intentions and efforts might be, you will still end up crying in the corner "I've failed miserably as a mother and a wife". And then get up, and keep trying. And your future husband will do the same (to be clear - replace "mother and a wife" with "father and a husband"). Life is hard.

And then don't forget how SERIOUS marriage really is. It's all fun, roses and games when it starts - but it will end only through 2 ways: a bitter devastating divorce or a heartbreaking death. Let that sink in. And did I remember to tell you life is HARD?

Of course a completely separate problem is to find a 20-30 yo man nowadays who is able to fix stuff and do stuff with his hands. When I was a teenager I used to fix cars, knock down big trees and make firewood out of them, built a house with my dad, whatever broke we fixed it.

Kids nowadays are mostly taught the secret art of wasting their time with their cellphone.

Having said all that, I'm so happy to hear there are still "old-fashioned" women out there. If this was 20 years ago, I'd ask for your phone number.


Good luck with your search.

hf
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I'm OP's ideal, though well beyond her age. Age seasons a man and refines him, unlike women. I can do what is asked for, though I'm not sure that I will. If I feel that procreating again is worth the cost, I might. I presume daily sex is guaranteed as part of the deal.
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Your reaction is valid, but I’d make the sacrifice for an ideal wealthy man or Chad.
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Fixed it for you.

Explain to me why women dress like whores (booty shorts/skin tight apparel/yoga pants) in public?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84336138


Like this woman?????
[link to vidmax.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84337458


All of the original points asserted, in 13 seconds.
Yes.
Needs a stake to burn at.
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Yes. A burning pile of them would make a mile high pile in every city.
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I’m a 26 yr old woman searching for the father of my future children. You hear it all the time coming from men: modern American women are useless, confrontational, masculine and promiscuous. The feedback might be well deserved, but the men aren’t doing much better in one regard. My single most important qualifier in a man is if he’d make a good father.

Ideally, he is:

A good teacher to our children, can fix stuff around the house, has the know how and encyclopedic tidbits of knowledge that make dads awesome

He is stern and even tempered. Not afraid of correcting or disciplining them (not physically)

Has a solid moral compass that he abides by

Orderly and conscientious

I also have a lot to offer and I’m constantly working on ways to improve myself and my health/appearance, mindset, etc. I would even allow him to sleep with other women if he kept it under wraps and provided for our kids.

I feel like I don’t belong in today’s timeline, however. I crave a strong, old school man. My generation’s version of that is a caricature of masculinity: hyper ‘alphas’; ‘pick up artists’, status obsessed; consumerist; metrosexual; city rats; meatheads.

On the other hand, the ‘Nice Guys’ who wouldn’t hurt a fly are spineless, porn ridden, non stop gamers with no real life ambition or desire to have children because they want to watch Marvel movies in their spare time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006985


you lost it at physical discipline, which was early.

you can practically chart the end of corporal punishment with the rise of rates of incarceration.
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THIS IS NOT THE TRUTH AT ALL!

I have 3 children and a step son.

None were beaten. They turned out fine. Working

men! And my daughter is also a good worker.

None ever got in trouble with any authority figure.

I taught them to understand their place.

You DO NOT have to beat kids to make them understand.

While married we did pretty good for a while.

It lasted 15 years.

Of course, we weren't rich or anything.

I did have setbacks after my job was eliminated.

Then I divorced their mom because I had to and we had some

rough times afterwards. They understood the situation.

Poverty does not mean you lose your understanding

of 'treat others as you want to be treated'.

We hit that part and it was rough, but they never turned

to crime or any thing like that.

They are well balanced individuals living their life.

I'm proud of who they are and am still encouraging them

to do better for themselves.

Just thought I'd throw this in...
 Quoting: 1guynAz


Thank you 1guy. I have children too. You give me hope. hf
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Beware, OP, of the deceivers, who claim themselves to be perfect.
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God bless you

hf
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I would even allow him to sleep with other women if he kept it under wraps and provided for our kids.
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wtfdid
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Your reaction is valid, but I’d make the sacrifice for an ideal man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006985


How would that type of behaviour coincide with your requirement that he have a solid moral compass? If he'd sleep around and cheat on you, where is his solid moral ompass and how could he subsequently still be considered an ideal man by you?
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OP, if you can't find the kind of man you're asking for you're simply looking in the wrong places.

The kind of man you're looking for is a hard worker, doing actual thankless work of the kind that makes our civilization survive for another day. Your best bet of finding him is to look at his work place, because that's where he is.

Good luck!
Lazy Monk
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Make your life about the work of your Father, you'll crash into quality Christian men.
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Can I get your number?
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Just give up! Don't pursue romantic relationships at all. If you have the means and experience from that lane, pay escorts and go out for a nice night on the town every few months and I hope things end happily.

Put your energy in you. You, you, you!





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