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Own a Berkey water filter? Might want to re-think using it.

 
Grateful1

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I would also say if the filters are not tight enough on the Berkey they will bleed through unfiltered water and would not doubt if the samples being tested were not filtered properly.

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Safe Water Starts With Science
We invest in an on-site water lab with staff scientists, and individually test our devices to ensure they deliver greater safety and ease of use.

Every MSR filter and purifier features:

An integrity check that allows the user to easily confirm that, if the device is dropped or frozen, the fibers haven’t been damaged and the device is working safely—a feature most competitors don’t provide.
An end-of-life indicator—the filter media stops passing water. This clearly identifies that it’s time to replace the cartridge without exposing the user to harmful pathogens.
Passes NSF Protocol P231 throughout the filter’s life. The test confirms microbiological threat removal from a variety of water types, unlike NSF 42 and 53, which aren’t suitable tests for backcountry use.
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Safe Water Starts With Science
We invest in an on-site water lab with staff scientists, and individually test our devices to ensure they deliver greater safety and ease of use.

Every MSR filter and purifier features:

An integrity check that allows the user to easily confirm that, if the device is dropped or frozen, the fibers haven’t been damaged and the device is working safely—a feature most competitors don’t provide.
An end-of-life indicator—the filter media stops passing water. This clearly identifies that it’s time to replace the cartridge without exposing the user to harmful pathogens.
Passes NSF Protocol P231 throughout the filter’s life. The test confirms microbiological threat removal from a variety of water types, unlike NSF 42 and 53, which aren’t suitable tests for backcountry use.
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in other words Junes & co. are frauds
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I only drink beer.
I don't drunk water because fish fuck in it
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I used to use Alexapure but I installed a reverse osmosis filter on my well water with a water softener to add back in minerals.

My water is pretty fucking good.
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Alexepure is a Berkey just re-named under the AJ brand for infowars.
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Really begs the question at some point... people should start asking this one despite it being uncomfortable...

IS EVERYTHING A SCAM IN THIS REALITY?? it sure seems like it a lot of the time. Think about it. think about all the aspects you thought were real, were true were good etc.. and then later you found out were some kind of scams, grifts, con etc... it really is a fascinating question to try and answer despite it being unpleasant at times.

if the question scares you well.. it is getting close to Halloweeen.. maybe it's time to face that fear.
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love my zero water filter. great value.
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10/11/2022 04:49 PM
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Hospitals and labs use double distilled..
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I used to use Alexapure but I installed a reverse osmosis filter on my well water with a water softener to add back in minerals.

My water is pretty fucking good.
 Quoting: Just Passing Through.....


Yeah it’s clean, but it’s dead water. All minerals striped
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Stick this in your berkey and call it good.


[link to mypatriotsupply.com (secure)]
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So will this fit a Berkey & do I need one or two?

Then just plug the other two holes?

And I can see from the product specifications that it removes 97% fluoride?

Seems like a better value than Berkey.
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I drink natural spring water from a local aquifer. Talk about good water
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It may taste OK but it will have farm chemicals in it..
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Nope ph balanced through Pete moss/ rock filter on private property - no farm run off. I have been doing salt water tanks for years and this is way better than the RO/ UV filter system I used to use
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10/11/2022 04:53 PM
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I didn't know about this so thanks to OP! I distill but have the filters to make a homemade Berkey type filter. Now I'm reconsidering buying a Alexpure.
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10/11/2022 04:57 PM
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I didn't know about this so thanks to OP! I distill but have the filters to make a homemade Berkey type filter. Now I'm reconsidering buying a Alexpure.
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research the alexapure before you jump into another scam. there are youtubers that sent samples of all of these off to labs for testing. i am not saying anything about alexapure other than i know nothing about how it tested. i wouldn't just jump into something else without more research - especially now.

You will want to look for actual NSF ratings, not "exceeds NSF standards". You want an actual accreditation for the testing facility.
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10/11/2022 04:59 PM

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This is what I use

[link to m.media-amazon.com (secure)]

Been using these for 20 years, the water is pure and taste great.
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Shit then what's a good filter???
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I use

[link to www.geapplianceparts.com (secure)]
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10/11/2022 05:05 PM

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If you are home and have water pressure it is hard to beat an under sink R/O unit.

2 big pre-filters, then a big carbon filter, then the R/O membrane, then a final Carbon filter to finish off. Not much gets through that setup.

For portable filtration / disinfection.

The gold standard has always been Katadyn filters. Either the pump type or the gravity drain type which is my preference. Hard to beat the simplicity of filling a bag with water and hanging up for a while to refill a container.

I have the old unit called "katadyn base camp"

I see the similar product now is called "Be-free".
[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]


katadyn base camp water filter
[link to www.military1st.com (secure)]

Other vendors may offer similar stuff for less.
As long as they provide lab tests to certify it, and it has at least 0.2 micron filtration.

If you want added safety, adding iodine to the water is a needed nutrient anyway and will disinfect the water if you dose it correctly and leave it sit for 20 minutes to kill any microbes.

This is all assuming you have water from a questionable stream or pond source, but that there is not oil or kerosene or pesticides in the water. The sub micron filtration is to remove the normal pathogens found in water.

Berkey was a known rip-off for years on another website I used to frequent. They never provided lab data. Just lots of advertising to lure the buyers that did not do their homework.

Like most things, it is cheaper to hire shills than to actually be good.


There is also a cheap ceramic filter that still gives the 0.2 micron filtration, but you need to supply your own set of 5 gallong buckets. It was marketed very cheaply to help people in Africa filter out the Onch worms that gave them river blindness. They used to sell for under $15.

You need to check or test such filters to make sure they are not cracked.

A still tends to not have the multiple theoretical stages needed for a decent separation, and they consume a lot of power. You would need to look into the details. I don't have one, but I have spent a career designing and operation distillation plants. What you buy commerically as a water still is likely just a flash evaporator/condenser. It might remove stuff, it might not. the energy consumption would make it a non-contender for a grid down situation.

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I didn't know about this so thanks to OP! I distill but have the filters to make a homemade Berkey type filter. Now I'm reconsidering buying a Alexpure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84312765


research the alexapure before you jump into another scam. there are youtubers that sent samples of all of these off to labs for testing. i am not saying anything about alexapure other than i know nothing about how it tested. i wouldn't just jump into something else without more research - especially now.

You will want to look for actual NSF ratings, not "exceeds NSF standards". You want an actual accreditation for the testing facility.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Thanks but Ill most likely stick with my still. Electric as the post above shows. But if I do consider a table top filter again I will keep your advice in mind!

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10/11/2022 05:09 PM
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I drink natural spring water from a local aquifer. Talk about good water
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As long as you don't live in any of the red/orange/blue areas on this map, then you're probably okay.

[link to www.eurekalert.org (secure)]

A lot of the New England and Central Plains areas have VERY high uranium content in the aquifers.
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Better than nothing.

This is likely a smear slash cash grab!!!!

Distilled water system. Do it the old fashioned way. Then take your vits and mins!
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10/11/2022 05:14 PM
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Yah!!!

Trust a government lab!!!

Like the cdc or fda or nih or GAVI or …… just rely on your government health board!!!

Seriously! They are angels sent from god to look after your health!!

Everyone now knows this.

It’s rumored that they also shit gold! Usually after getting sweet jobs with big pharmaceutical companies.
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I used to use Alexapure but I installed a reverse osmosis filter on my well water with a water softener to add back in minerals.

My water is pretty fucking good.
 Quoting: Just Passing Through.....


Off topic but wanted to ask how the people down in Florida were doing since the news acts like that's old news and has moved on from their story. Do they have water yet?

What is happening with the people and the land? I would like it if you could post it in a thread so that I can find your replies easily and others too.
How can we help?
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What if you berkey straight into a berkey?

Then re berkey the berkey?
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10/11/2022 05:17 PM
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RO is king by far. add on an expansion tank. and a uv light.

clean fresh pure water always!

downside is its wasteful. 75% of the water is wasted.
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10/11/2022 05:20 PM

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bumping for later reading.
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10/11/2022 05:23 PM
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I have one sitting around but never used it.

We have pure spring water that literally pours out of the ground and needs no treatment other than once a year bleaching. This is the best source of water.
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I have a well, 2 springs and a creek. I would drink from the well or either of the springs with no worries, but I'd want to filter the creek water before drinking it. Too many wild animals upstream.
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10/11/2022 05:27 PM
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Bumping For Later...

Thanks for sharing...

Shalom...

Eliyah

hf
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10/11/2022 05:28 PM
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Bump!

Because there are many people here that swear this is the holy grail of filters.

They think they're safe but they aren't.
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clappa
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I have Alexapure
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This is what I use

[link to m.media-amazon.com (secure)]

Been using these for 20 years, the water is pure and taste great.
 Quoting: The DingleDorfs


How do you remineralize? Electrolytes?
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10/11/2022 05:36 PM
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I have never had mine tested, but my black elements are coming up on 5yrs old and they are still removing the chlorine from the municipal water.

Water from my faucet smells like a swimming pool, and water from my Berkey has zero chlorine odor/taste.

Thanks for posting this OP. As an owner of 2 Berkey purifiers for 10yrs I would really like to see test results from multiple labs.





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